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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  eehnie on Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:40 pm

    franco wrote:23550 - 6800t Arctic Patrol Ship - 2

    Patrol types:

    21980 - 138t - Patrol Boat - 22
    03160 - 23t - Fast Patrol Boat - 8

    There is some new about the helicopter of the Project 23550?

    If the helicopter is not a combat helicopter, the quoted projects seem more like with armament level of the Auxiliary Ships of the Russian Navy or of the Russian Coast Guard.


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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  franco on Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:52 pm

    The two Arctic Patrol ships are basically Armed Icebreakers able to access the new Military bases being built up north.

    The patrol boats are to guard the Naval Bases. At least one 21980 per base. Six each planned for Northern and Pacific Fleets, remaining 10 divided between the Baltic, Black and Caspian Seas.
    The smaller ones, not sure yet. At present they are Baltic (3) and Black Sea (7) only. These are the Raptors and the Russian copy (BK-16) of the Swedish craft.
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    Russian Navy construction update

    Post  eehnie on Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:05 am

    franco wrote:Russian Navy War Ship Construction Update

    Those constructed, under construction, ordered or announced plans to order. Does not include ships still under planning development.

    Submarines:

    06363 - 3100t conventional submarine - 12
    677 - 2100t conventional submarine - 3
    885 - 11800t nuclear attack submarine - 7
    955 - 13000t nuclear ballistic missile submarine - 8

    Frigate types:

    11356 - 3800t frigate - 6
    22350 - 4500t frigate - 6
    23550 - 6800t Arctic Patrol Ship - 2
    20380 - 2100t Corvette - 10
    20385 - 2300t Corvette - 2
    22160 - 1700t Patrol Ship - 6

    Littoral types:

    21630 - 500t - Gun Boat - 3
    12418 - 500t - Missile Boat - 2
    21631 - 950t - Missile Ship - 12
    22800 - 800t - Missile Ship - 19

    Patrol types:

    21980 - 138t - Patrol Boat - 22
    03160 - 23t - Fast Patrol Boat - 8
    BK-16 - 20t - Fast Patrol Boat - 2

    Minesweepers:

    12700 - 620t - Coastal Minesweeper - 8

    Amphibious Warfare:

    11711 - 6000t - Landing Ship - 2
    11770 - 100t - Fast Landing Craft - 12
    21820 - 280t - Landing Craft - 11

    The BK-16 is refered to the project 02510 ships? Here are classified as Landing Craft (Amphibious Warfare):

    http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_02510.htm

    About the Project 23550, I think it would need some upgrade in its armament to be a true frigate (and not an auxiliary ship). It would need at least some Air Defense. Some modern surface-air missile above man portable technologies.

    With their low level armament (as it has been reported) I think the Project 23550, the Project 03160 and the Project 21980 would be more in the level of armament of the Auxiliary Ships and the Coast Guard. Note that the Project 23550 seems to carry two 03160 boats.


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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  George1 on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:37 pm

    Navy

    In 2016, the Russian Navy received 24 ships and support vessels, and the Project 636.3 diesel-electric submarines Velikiy Novgorod and Kolpino for the Black Sea Fleet. The surface vessels included a Project 22870 rescue ship, a Project 19920 hydrographic ship, Project 11356 frigates Admiral Grigorovich and Admiral Essen, and Project 12700 mine countermeasures ship Aleksandr Obukhov.

    The Navy acquired 100 Kalibr (SS-N-27 / Sizzler) and Oniks (SS-N-26 / Strobile) cruise missiles. These missiles are carried on new Proyekt 636.3 subs and Proyekt 11356 frigates.

    In early December, logistics chief Army General Dmitriy Bulgakov said 19 of the 24 ships delivered were auxiliaries. And Admiral Essen fouled its screws while mooring before departing for its Black Sea homeport. The third Proyekt 11356 Admiral Makarov did not reach the fleet, nor did the first Proyekt 22350 Admiral Gorshkov frigate, or the initial Proyekt 11711 LSD Ivan Gren. Another less than impressive year of naval construction.

    https://russiandefpolicy.blog/2017/01/08/what-they-got/


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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:18 pm

    George1 wrote: 19 of the 24 ships delivered were auxiliaries. [/b] And Admiral Essen fouled its screws while mooring before departing for its Black Sea homeport.  The third Proyekt 11356 Admiral Makarov did not reach the fleet, nor did the first Proyekt 22350 Admiral Gorshkov frigate, or the initial Proyekt 11711 LSD Ivan Gren. Another less than impressive year of naval construction.

    That's probably the important part. Quite bad year as the article says. That Ivan Gren LST saga is beyond believable anymore.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  Militarov on Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:27 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
    George1 wrote: 19 of the 24 ships delivered were auxiliaries. [/b] And Admiral Essen fouled its screws while mooring before departing for its Black Sea homeport.  The third Proyekt 11356 Admiral Makarov did not reach the fleet, nor did the first Proyekt 22350 Admiral Gorshkov frigate, or the initial Proyekt 11711 LSD Ivan Gren. Another less than impressive year of naval construction.

    That's probably the important part. Quite bad year as the article says. That Ivan Gren LST saga is beyond believable anymore.

    I said few times before... i need to repeat... I HATE THAT SHIP.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  eehnie on Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:07 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Navy

    In 2016, the Russian Navy received 24 ships and support vessels, and the Project 636.3 diesel-electric submarines Velikiy Novgorod and Kolpino for the Black Sea Fleet. The surface vessels included a Project 22870 rescue ship, a Project 19920 hydrographic ship, Project 11356 frigates Admiral Grigorovich and Admiral Essen, and Project 12700 mine countermeasures ship Aleksandr Obukhov.

    The Navy acquired 100 Kalibr (SS-N-27 / Sizzler) and Oniks (SS-N-26 / Strobile) cruise missiles.  These missiles are carried on new Proyekt 636.3 subs and Proyekt 11356 frigates.

    In early December, logistics chief Army General Dmitriy Bulgakov said 19 of the 24 ships delivered were auxiliaries. And Admiral Essen fouled its screws while mooring before departing for its Black Sea homeport.  The third Proyekt 11356 Admiral Makarov did not reach the fleet, nor did the first Proyekt 22350 Admiral Gorshkov frigate, or the initial Proyekt 11711 LSD Ivan Gren. Another less than impressive year of naval construction.

    https://russiandefpolicy.blog/2017/01/08/what-they-got/

    I do not think the tone of the article is good in the refered to the Russian Navy.

    The procurement of war ships is the expected, and is in agreement with the decommissions. After a time of decommissions (by a wish of reduction of the fleet) and selection of the best ships to keep, the natural step is to go to a time of stability in the fleet (if Russia would like a bigger fleet Russia would have not decommissioned as many young ships). The remaining war fleet, has very few old ships, and it leads to very few decommissions in the following years and as consequence low construction of new ships.

    In 2016 there are 3 decommissions of warships and submarines that were still young and 1 sale:

    1 Project 877 Conventiona Submarine (commissioned 1984)
    1 Project 641B Conventional Submarine (commissioned 1982)
    1 Project 12411 Missile Boat (commissioned 1987)
    1 Project 12421 Missile Boat (commissioned 2000, sale to Egypt)

    And there are 5 new warships and submarines:

    2 Project 06363 Conventional Submarine
    2 Project 11356 Frigate
    1 Project 12700 Minesweeper

    In the refered to the war ships, Russia will not change this rythm of decommissions and production until about 2025. In this period the Russian Navy will have the time and the money (in part thanks to the Mistral failure) to develop what remains to be done, including/specially the Project 23000E of new aircraft carrier, the Project 23560 of new cruiser/destroyer, the Project 21956 of new destroyer, and the shipyards needed.

    Logically, the auxiliary fleet, including coast patrol ships (low armed) of the Russian Navy, is where today there is more movement.


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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:48 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    George1 wrote: 19 of the 24 ships delivered were auxiliaries. [/b] And Admiral Essen fouled its screws while mooring before departing for its Black Sea homeport.  The third Proyekt 11356 Admiral Makarov did not reach the fleet, nor did the first Proyekt 22350 Admiral Gorshkov frigate, or the initial Proyekt 11711 LSD Ivan Gren. Another less than impressive year of naval construction.

    That's probably the important part. Quite bad year as the article says. That Ivan Gren LST saga is beyond believable anymore.

    I said few times before... i need to repeat... I HATE THAT SHIP.


    I personally have one very simple rule about Russian Naval construction: ignore vessels whose construction started before 2010. I just don't take their delivery speed into any assessment.

    Reason: before 2008 Georgia incident nobody in Russia gave 2 sh*ts about military and navy in particular. So let's say it took them couple of years to get off their asses and you get year 2010.

    I will gladly criticize any ship whose construction started after that point but as for stuff before that, when they come, they come.

    Call it force majeure and save yourself (and others) some hassle.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  eehnie on Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:33 am

    Update of the ships under construction for specific roles of the Russian Navy at the begin of 2017:

    34 - Warships:
    1 - Project 11540 Frigate (2 more not-completed)
    4 - Project 11356 Frigate
    1 - Project 11660/11661 Frigate (1 more not-completed)
    8 - Project 20380/20385 Frigate/Corvette
    4 - Project 21631 Corvette
    6 - Project 22350 Frigate
    6 - Project 22160 Frigate
    4 - Project 22800 Corvette
    0 - Project 21956 Destroyer
    0 - Project 23560 Cruiser/Destroyer
    0 - Project 23000E Aircraft Carrier

    15 - Submarines:
    1 - Project 949 Nuclear Submarine (5 more not-completed)
    2 - Project 677 Conventional Submarine
    5 - Project 955 Nuclear Submarine
    6 - Project 885/08851 Nuclear Submarine
    1 - Project 09851 Nuclear Submarine

    7 - Missile Boats:
    6 - Project 12411/12417/12418/1241RE Missile Boat
    1 - Project 12300 Missile Boat

    17 - Minesweepers:
    3 - Project 1265 (1 more not-completed)
    6 - Project 10750
    1 - Project 12255 (1 more not-completed)
    7 - Project 12700

    10 - Amphibious:
    1 - Project 11770/11771 (Azov shipyard, Mariupol)
    6 - Project 21820
    1 - Project 02510
    2 - Project 11711

    83 - Ships under construction for specific roles of the Russian Navy. Excluded the units clearly to export.

    Russia is becoming ready to afford the high number of decommissions that should come after 2024 and more intensely after 2030. Until then the rythm of commissions and decommissions will be low.

    It is likely that Russia gives impulse to the projects 21956, 23560 and 23000E, which first unit I would expect to be finnished by 2025. Note that the first unit of the Project 21956 is needed by Russia to replace the last ship of the project 01090 (commissioned 1969), the first unit of the Project 23560 is needed by Russia to replace the last unit of the Project 1134B (commissioned 1974), and the first unit of the Project 23000E is needed by Russia to allow to have the last unit of the Project 11435 (commissioned 1990) in the reserve for cases like the war of Syria. All the rest of the oldest ships can be replaced by ships under construction today.

    In adition to this, auxiliary ships and low armed coast guard ships.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  Isos on Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:22 pm

    Some questions :

    1/ 1- Project 11540 Frigate (2 more not-completed)  Why this ships is Under construction ? It's outdated. Did they start to build it during USSR and now finishing it ?

    2/ projects 21956 ?  They never ordered this class, no ? they went for lider class.

    3/ 6 - Project 12411/12417/12418/1241RE Missile Boat ?   When did they ordered these ones ? Will they be armed with Urans or Moskit?


    Thanks for the list, one remark you could have just put the names instead of the project numbers. I had to check each ones Very Happy
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  franco on Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:58 am

    Production of new naval engines replacing those from Ukraine to commence by May holiday;

    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170203/1487150297.html
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  franco on Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:03 am

    Isos wrote:Some questions :

    1/ 1- Project 11540 Frigate (2 more not-completed)  Why this ships is Under construction ? It's outdated. Did they start to build it during USSR and now finishing it ? The last two were not done and cancelled.

    2/ projects 21956 ?  They never ordered this class, no ? they went for lider class. Actually nothing finalized re the DDG project.

    3/ 6 - Project 12411/12417/12418/1241RE Missile Boat ?   When did they ordered these ones ? Will they be armed with Urans or Moskit? There were two hulls completed in the Crimean shipyards that will apparently be finished as 12418 models each with 16 Urans.


    Thanks for the list, one remark you could have just put the names instead of the project numbers. I had to check each ones Very Happy
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  eehnie on Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:03 am

    Isos wrote:Some questions :

    1/ 1- Project 11540 Frigate (2 more not-completed)  Why this ships is Under construction ? It's outdated. Did they start to build it during USSR and now finishing it ?

    2/ projects 21956 ?  They never ordered this class, no ? they went for lider class.

    3/ 6 - Project 12411/12417/12418/1241RE Missile Boat ?   When did they ordered these ones ? Will they be armed with Urans or Moskit?


    Thanks for the list, one remark you could have just put the names instead of the project numbers. I had to check each ones Very Happy

    Sorry, I missed the questions until now.

    1/ About this ship (Tuman Nº403) I know it was laid down in 1993 and its construction frozen in 1995, but until some change is ordered the ship would remain in the same status. Habitually, economically it is better to finnish the ships in construction than to destroy them, because despite to be not the most modern ship, it can do some work still. Also it is possible to do some review of the design and to finnish it as a more advanced variant. Other option in cases like this, is to finnish the ship to export under a future deal with other country.

    2/ At this point I'm not sure that the Project 21956 and the Project 23560 Lider are incompatible. I tend to think that are not incompatible or redundant. There are lots of contradictory informations about these projects and even many articles mix up both, but I would not assure that the Project 21956 has been ruled out. I included the Projects 21956, 23560 and 23000E despite to be in earlier stages than the rest, because I consider them the most important projects not ordered still for the Russian Navy in the following years, and help to give a more complete view about the potential of the Russian Navy in the following years.

    3/ One of the six (R-5 Nº216) is a 12411 ship that was laid down in 1991 and its construction frozen in 1991. It would be like the ship of the fist question. The other five are 12418, maybe to export, like the rest of this variant until now, but I have not find information about the future buyer. There are more 12418 under construction that I included not in the list because they are to export and I identified the buyer.

    In some cases the ships under construction (like the 12418 you was asking for) have not a name still (or at least was not offered by the sources). I also check ship by ship, but I thought it was too much to go ship by ship.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  eehnie on Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:50 am

    With the money of the Mistrals, it would be very interesting for Russia to order the first unit of the 3 projects:

    - Project 23000 E of new aircraft carrier.
    - Project 23560 of new destroyer/cruiser.
    - Project 21956 of new destroyer.

    building the necessary infrastructure for it.
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    Post  Militarov on Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:02 pm

    eehnie wrote:With the money of the Mistrals, it would be very interesting for Russia to order the first unit of the 3 projects:

    - Project 23000 E of new aircraft carrier.
    - Project 23560 of new destroyer/cruiser.
    - Project 21956 of new destroyer.

    building the necessary infrastructure for it.

    Only if Mistral deal was worth like 30 billion, then sure xD
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  Isos on Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:38 pm

    Thanks for the answer.

    eehnie wrote:With the money of the Mistrals, it would be very interesting for Russia to order the first unit of the 3 projects:

    - Project 23000 E of new aircraft carrier.
    - Project 23560 of new destroyer/cruiser.
    - Project 21956 of new destroyer.

    building the necessary infrastructure for it.

    Not the best option. They should get some experience by building a big ship like the mistral. They already did a part of them.

    They paid 1 billion$ for 2 Mistral and they wanted 2 more which means they had 2 billions $ for them. That's enough for a Heli carrier or the 21956 (which is the same size as the Udaloy class) but not for the other 2. They can always try to put back in service some Yaks on heli carriers for patroling around the fleet and searching for incoming missiles dunno
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:02 am

    The Ka-52Ks would probably be much better than any naval model Yak in a viable operational context.

    With AESA radar and R-77s they would be quite interesting... though I think the low speed low altitude launch limitations would mean R-27E models or even R-37M might be warranted to get a useful range performance.



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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  eehnie on Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:38 pm

    The money of the Mistrals may not be enough, but would be a good basis for the first stages of the three projects. And this is the part where the works for the shipyards are done. To use the money of the Mistrals by this way would mean to use the money of the Mistral project assuring that Russia has shipyards for the biggest warships in the future. And later these shipyards would be compatible for other types of big warships if needed.

    The campaign in Syria is showing two things related:

    - The weaknesses of the Naval Aviation (basically in form of accidents).
    - The weaknesses of the current manned combat helicopters as a military concept (basically in form of warfare damaged and destroyed by the enemy).

    The question of the accidents of the Naval Aviation is of different nature and surely would require some organizational change. I tend to think that the Naval Aviation needs to reach the standards of the Aerospace Forces (training, standards for the aircraft and helicopter fleet,...), and for it, the most logical option would be a merge of structures, of pilots, of training procedures, of aircraft and helicopter fleets, of maintenance programs, of procurement and decommission standards,...

    The difference that we see in Syria between combat helicopters and aircrafts would exist also between naval helicopters and naval aircrafts. Like the combat way of the helicopters is more dangerous and are easier to hit, the helicopters will likely go unmanned, but with it, their weakness to enemy hits likely will continue, if not increase, because unmanned weapons can take even more risks.

    As military concept, the difference between an aircraft carrier and an helicopter carrier, is that while the first can operate with both, the second only can operate with helicopters and small VTOL. The problem is that changes on combat helicopters are coming, and today an helicopter carrier can not be designed to operate only with a type of combat helicopters that is going to decline. A modern helicopter carrier must be designed for the new type of small unmanned combat helicopters and VTOL aircrafts that is likely to emerge in the next 10-15 years. But we know not today the exact form of these aircrafts, then it is difficult to design now an effective helicopter carrier for the next 50 years. The timing to begin with a project of helicopter carrier now is difficult, is not right.

    The alone reasons to consider that Russia must not order in the short term the first unit of some of the three cited projects:

    - Project 23000 E of new aircraft carrier.
    - Project 23560 of new destroyer/cruiser.
    - Project 21956 of new destroyer.

    would be two:

    - to continue with the reduction of the fleet without a replacement of the oldest ships of these cathegories (project 61/01090 destroyer and project 1134B cruiser).
    - to think that Russia need not these types of ships in the future, and as consequence the current biggest ships must be retired without replacement.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:39 pm

    this topic is for naval construction program, pls dont make it off-topic again


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    Post  eehnie on Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:03 pm

    Looking at the construction of new ships it is necessary to take into account the model that Russia is adopting for its Navy.

    At this point, Russia reduced its fleet, but has not eliminated no-one of the biggest types of ships. When Russia is finnishing the reduction of the fleet, is unlikely they eliminate totally the aircraft carriers, the cruisers or the destroyers of its fleet, because these types of ships remain actual as military concept. It means Russia will likely go forward with the new projects for these types of ships.

    Roughly, not the exact numbers, Russia is going to a model with 250 active ships, including warships, minesweepers, amphibious ships, submarines and well armed boats (missile boats). Also the trend is toward an aditional 25% of ships in the reserve. Like 62 ships. For a total of a 20% of the fleet in the reserve. This reserve with the oldest ships likely will become an aditional mobile fleet for operations like this of Syria.

    In terms of ship replacement and construction, for a complete cycle of reposition of around 50 years, it means the ships would be like 40 years in active service plus 10 more in the reserve. A stable rythm to build this amount of ships would be in 62-63 ships of these types by decade, which means 6 ships by year, with 7 some year. Taking into account the list of ships of thses types in construction in Russia today, it means that Russia has ships in construction for a decade (likely some of the list will go to export), and more taking into account the low retirement rate of ships expected until 2025.

    In terms of geographical distribution of the fleet, Russia is going roughly to a model of 100 active combat ships in the Artic Ocean, 50 in the Pacific, 50 in the Baltic and 50 in the Black+Caspian seas. The aditional 62 reserve ships would be likely equally divided between the Pacific and the Black+Caspian seas, with 31 each because they are the closest places to the likely scenarios for operations outside the Russian borders like the operation in Syria.

    And in terms of types of ships, Russia is going roughly to a model with 70+18 (25% aditional in the reserve) warships, 50+12 minesweepers, 50+12 amphibious ships, 55+14 submarines, 25+6 missile boats. In this case it is possible to see in the future missile boats replaced by bigger warships (corvettes or frigates).

    Finally it is likely that the 7 ships of these types captured to Ukraine that Russia has, be included in this scheme in the future.

    This is roughly the model of Navy that Russia is adopting today. To understand the model of fleet that Russia is adopting today is necessary to understand the plans of construction of new ships, because the construction plans will be in agreement with the model. I expect very few new projects that are not in construction today adopted by Russia before 2025. I expect very few new order of ships of these types in the next 5-7 years. Basically I only expect to be ordered the first unit of the Project 23000 of new aircraft carrier, the first unit of the Project 23560 of new cruiser/destroyer, and the first unit of the Project 21956 of new destroyer.

    Auxiliary ships, including low armed patrol boats, would be appart of this overview. For them, I think the reduction process is not finnished, and the Syrian campaign will help to see the real needs of the Russian Navy today.


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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  Militarov on Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:36 pm

    GarryB wrote:The Ka-52Ks would probably be much better than any naval model Yak in a viable operational context.

    With AESA radar and R-77s they would be quite interesting... though I think the low speed low altitude launch limitations would mean R-27E models or even R-37M might be warranted to get a useful range performance.


    AA missiles from helicopters would have very, very poor performance and i very much doubt any kind of wide scale deployment of such. At best they will keep carrying as they always did Strela/Igla/Verba etc derivates.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:33 am

    Obviously they wont be replacing MiG-29Ks any time soon... but they will have the capability to carry R-73s and R-77s which would be effective to 20-30km or so at medium altitude.

    This would be sufficient to protect a small group of ships from some anti ship threats.

    There is however an obvious need for a helicopter carrier to support naval infantry forces and also a fixed wing carrier type to support all other naval vessels when beyond the reach of land based support.

    I think they will be clever and make these vessels multi purpose ships to increase their flexibility with the limits on fleet size and production capacity.

    I think their new fixed wing carriers will have a lot of UAVs for patrol and other missions that don't require pilots on board to increase their capabilities.


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    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:40 pm

    This presentation from Kolomna machine Building Plant shows the various diesel powerplants they produce and the ship/submarine they are intended to be used on.

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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  TheArmenian on Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:44 am

    Apparently the Zelenodorsk shipyard has received an order for an additional 3 BUYAN missile ships.
    That will increase the total for this class to 12.

    Add to that the 18 KARAKURTs building/on order and you have some nice firepower.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  eehnie on Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:12 am

    eehnie wrote:With the money of the Mistrals, it would be very interesting for Russia to order the first unit of the 3 projects:

    - Project 23000 E of new aircraft carrier.
    - Project 23560 of new destroyer/cruiser.
    - Project 21956 of new destroyer.

    building the necessary infrastructure for it.

    Interesting links with specifications of the projects:

    http://www.deagel.com/Carrier-and-Landing-Ships/Project-23000E_a003273001.aspx
    http://www.deagel.com/Destroyers-and-Cruisers/Project-23560_a003082001.aspx
    http://www.deagel.com/Destroyers-and-Cruisers/Project-21956_a002084001.aspx

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