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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  calm on Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:38 am

    ^
    Aug 4
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    Exclusive: #Russia deployed few numbers of Mig-29SMT in Khmemeim AB #Syria
    https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/907719263775068161



    Same guy
    A second major #RuAF AB in #Syria to be revealed soon.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:21 am

    calm wrote:^
    Aug 4
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    Exclusive: #Russia deployed few numbers of Mig-29SMT in Khmemeim AB #Syria
    https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/907719263775068161

    Not according to this guy, but if that is a Mig-29SMT taking off in Franco's clip it has to be!

    Billy Andrews @lotchiksnayper 3h3 hours ago

    thats a picture from Astrakhan AFB in the Caucasus


    From

    https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/907661544066088962
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:06 am

    #Russia|n soldiers in #Syria. Most prob. #spetsnaz #GRU.Note typical GRU early AKMS (w/out muzzle break)-most likely PBS-1 suppressor config
    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/907784571059662850



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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  calm on Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:04 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    calm wrote:^
    Aug 4
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    Exclusive: #Russia deployed few numbers of Mig-29SMT in Khmemeim AB #Syria
    https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/907719263775068161

    Not according to this guy, but if that is a Mig-29SMT taking off in Franco's clip it has to be!

    Billy Andrews @lotchiksnayper 3h3 hours ago

    thats a picture from Astrakhan AFB in the Caucasus


    From

    https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/907661544066088962

    Pick your sources. You can see S400 in background. And yes it's Latakia.



    on video
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:38 pm

    Excellent re the Mig, thanks.

    Here are what looks like a pair of Russian SF vehicles at 10 secs, second is BRDM not sure of the first, could be the same from its spare wheel. Screenshoot under.



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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:42 pm

    Not see Flankers? this low before

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:48 pm

    Those are fulcrums.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  The Ottoman on Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:30 pm

    Armed Dissidents, Russia, Turkey Likely to Attack Tahrir Al-Sham in Idlib



    TEHRAN (FNA)- Media sources reported that the foreign media workers are hurriedly fleeing Idlib towards Turkey as armed dissidents, Moscow and Ankara declared operations against Tahrir al-Sham Hay'at (the Levant Liberation Board or the Al-Nusra Front).

    Media activists in Idlib reported that reporters of different international news agencies are leaving Idlib after reports said that agreements have been made for attacks against Tahrir al-Sham Hay'at by other militant groups, backed by the Russian and Turkish air forces.

    Earlier reports said today that a Saudi commander of Tahrir al-Sham Hay'at was assassinated in the Eastern parts of Idlib province.

    News websites affiliated to the terrorists reported that Abu Mohammad al-Share'i was killed by unknown assailants in Saraqib city in Eastern Idlib.

    They added that he was formerly a commander of Jund al-Aqsa terrorist group.


    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960622001535
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:34 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Those are fulcrums.
    Thanks, not an expert on the differences. But the tails look different, are there both there, Mig with rockets and Su with the cannon? Could it be the angle?

    Wonder how long they have been there. This is good for generating sales photos!
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:25 pm

    Interesting that they are flying fighters with full load outs of AAM. Sorry re quality but couldn't work out how to do it better. From MoD site.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  HUNTER VZLA on Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:15 pm

    calm wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    calm wrote:^
    Aug 4
    More
    Exclusive: #Russia deployed few numbers of Mig-29SMT in Khmemeim AB #Syria
    https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/907719263775068161

    Not according to this guy, but if that is a Mig-29SMT taking off in Franco's clip it has to be!

    Billy Andrews @lotchiksnayper 3h3 hours ago

    thats a picture from Astrakhan AFB in the Caucasus


    From

    https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/907661544066088962

    Pick your sources. You can see S400 in background. And yes it's Latakia.



    on video




    more about the Mig-29SMT in Syria


    https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/907711353128964097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmundo.sputniknews.com%2Forientemedio%2F201709131072321948-mig-29-hmeymim-siria-ofensiva-aerea%2F


    https://mundo.sputniknews.com/orientemedio/201709131072321948-mig-29-hmeymim-siria-ofensiva-aerea/
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:08 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:#Russia|n soldiers in #Syria. Most prob. #spetsnaz #GRU.Note typical GRU early AKMS (w/out muzzle break)-most likely PBS-1 suppressor config
    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/907784571059662850


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:55 am

    Good news

    Russia is preparing to send more than 4,000 tons of materials and over 40 pieces of construction equipment to Syria to help the war-torn country in its multibillion-dollar reconstruction effort.
    The shipment of industrial aid that is currently being readied for dispatch will consist of “more than 40 units of construction equipment,” such as bulldozers, excavators and cranes, Russia’s Defense Ministry said.

    In addition, the country will receive “over 2 thousand tons of metal pipes” that would be used to restore water infrastructure as well as “hundreds of kilometers of high-voltage and fiber-optic cables” to restore electricity and communications lines.

    The construction material, which will be shipped from the port of Novorossiysk, will be used to restore “critical infrastructure” to those areas that have been recently freed from terrorist fighters, the Defense Ministry said, adding that hospitals and schools remain the priority.


    https://muraselon.com/en/2017/09/video-russia-sends-4000-tons-pipes-cables-machinery-reconstruction-aid-syria/
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  d_taddei2 on Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:41 am

    HUNTER VZLA wrote:
    calm wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    calm wrote:^
    Aug 4
    More
    Exclusive: #Russia deployed few numbers of Mig-29SMT in Khmemeim AB #Syria
    https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/907719263775068161

    Not according to this guy, but if that is a Mig-29SMT taking off in Franco's clip it has to be!

    Billy Andrews @lotchiksnayper 3h3 hours ago

    thats a picture from Astrakhan AFB in the Caucasus


    From

    https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/907661544066088962

    Pick your sources. You can see S400 in background. And yes it's Latakia.



    on video




    more about the Mig-29SMT in Syria


    https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/907711353128964097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmundo.sputniknews.com%2Forientemedio%2F201709131072321948-mig-29-hmeymim-siria-ofensiva-aerea%2F


    https://mundo.sputniknews.com/orientemedio/201709131072321948-mig-29-hmeymim-siria-ofensiva-aerea/

    And another source confirming it. Excellent news and a chance to show case it for export sales. Be good to see this in combat missions and not just escort duties

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-deploys-mig-29smt-fighter-jet-syria-first-time/
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:47 am

    One problem is, all these jets are just dropping bombs, be it guided or unguided in a very accurate form. What we do not have though, is their air combat live examples. In this regard, the aircrafts job is also air to air engagements, and that is probably the most important function since it wouldn't make sense to have two, four or more aircraft all doing the same thing, dumping bombs to the ground. We need examples of its capabilities in air to air combat for these jets to become "popular sells" to foreign entities. Su-35S is still unproven but rather known due to its ridiculously powerful radar and its integrated sensor systems. Su-30SM is great due to having a rather powerful radar (not as powerful though as Su-35S') but with great air to ground capabilities.

    What can MiG-29SMT provide that is different? Rather, nothing different than Su-30SM could, but rather being less capable in terms of overall performance than to the Su-30SM. Rather, MiG-29M/M2 or even MiG-35 would have been far better when trying to showcase.

    I imagine the MiG-29SMT's will be used more specifically towards the forward forces as there are rumors of a new airfield being built by Russia (currently rumors) and if that is the case, is more than likely much closer to Palmyra or Deir, so MiG-29SMT's could be ideal in both air to air protection and air to ground for cheaper operation and reduced range. Although, how much cheaper is the MiG-29SMT compared to Su-30SM? Currently, probably quite a bit cause it is known that Su-30SM is more expensive than Su-35 (until all foreign components are replaced in further upgrades).

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  ATLASCUB on Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:55 am

    miketheterrible wrote:One problem is, all these jets are just dropping bombs, be it guided or unguided in a very accurate form.  What we do not have though, is their air combat live examples.  In this regard, the aircrafts job is also air to air engagements, and that is probably the most important function since it wouldn't make sense to have two, four or more aircraft all doing the same thing, dumping bombs to the ground.  We need examples of its capabilities in air to air combat for these jets to become "popular sells" to foreign entities.  Su-35S is still unproven but rather known due to its ridiculously powerful radar and its integrated sensor systems.  Su-30SM is great due to having a rather powerful radar (not as powerful though as Su-35S') but with great air to ground capabilities.

    What can MiG-29SMT provide that is different?  Rather, nothing different than Su-30SM could, but rather being less capable in terms of overall performance than to the Su-30SM.  Rather, MiG-29M/M2 or even MiG-35 would have been far better when trying to showcase.

    I imagine the MiG-29SMT's will be used more specifically towards the forward forces as there are rumors of a new airfield being built by Russia (currently rumors) and if that is the case, is more than likely much closer to Palmyra or Deir, so MiG-29SMT's could be ideal in both air to air protection and air to ground for cheaper operation and reduced range.  Although, how much cheaper is the MiG-29SMT compared to Su-30SM? Currently, probably quite a bit cause it is known that Su-30SM is more expensive than Su-35 (until all foreign components are replaced in further upgrades).

    I wouldn't pit a 29SMT with what it might potentially challenge it there in air-to-air. Su-35S, Su-30SM is another story. I agree with your observation tho...very odd choice...maybe it's just the simple things the main reason it's there.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:22 am

    ATLASCUB wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:One problem is, all these jets are just dropping bombs, be it guided or unguided in a very accurate form.  What we do not have though, is their air combat live examples.  In this regard, the aircrafts job is also air to air engagements, and that is probably the most important function since it wouldn't make sense to have two, four or more aircraft all doing the same thing, dumping bombs to the ground.  We need examples of its capabilities in air to air combat for these jets to become "popular sells" to foreign entities.  Su-35S is still unproven but rather known due to its ridiculously powerful radar and its integrated sensor systems.  Su-30SM is great due to having a rather powerful radar (not as powerful though as Su-35S') but with great air to ground capabilities.

    What can MiG-29SMT provide that is different?  Rather, nothing different than Su-30SM could, but rather being less capable in terms of overall performance than to the Su-30SM.  Rather, MiG-29M/M2 or even MiG-35 would have been far better when trying to showcase.

    I imagine the MiG-29SMT's will be used more specifically towards the forward forces as there are rumors of a new airfield being built by Russia (currently rumors) and if that is the case, is more than likely much closer to Palmyra or Deir, so MiG-29SMT's could be ideal in both air to air protection and air to ground for cheaper operation and reduced range.  Although, how much cheaper is the MiG-29SMT compared to Su-30SM? Currently, probably quite a bit cause it is known that Su-30SM is more expensive than Su-35 (until all foreign components are replaced in further upgrades).

    I wouldn't pit a 29SMT with what it might potentially challenge it there in air-to-air. Su-35S, Su-30SM is another story. I agree with your observation tho...very odd choice...maybe it's just the simple things the main reason it's there.
    Probably to prove that it can take the work rate that will be needed over the next few months. Mind you there appear to be only two of them so far.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:25 pm

    2 Russian submarines fire cruise missiles from Mediterranean, hitting ISIS targets in Syria

    https://www.rt.com/news/403307-2-russian-submarines-fire-cruise-missiles/

    Two Russian submarines have fired Kalibr cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea, hitting Islamic State terrorist targets in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement.
    Seven Kalibr cruise missiles were launched Thursday from Russia’s Velikiy Novgorod and Kolpino submarines in the eastern Mediterranean, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    Targets hit included “control centers, communication hubs, militant weapons and ammunition warehouses in ISIS-controlled areas in southeast Deir ez-Zor,” the ministry said in a statement.

    The missiles hit all the planned targets, which were within a range of 500 to 670 kilometers, the ministry added.
    Russia is assisting the Syrian military to liberate the country’s territory from IS terrorists.


    Advanced Kilo Pr 636.3 class subs again proving how very effective they can be! russia
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:56 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:2 Russian submarines fire cruise missiles from Mediterranean, hitting ISIS targets in Syria

    https://www.rt.com/news/403307-2-russian-submarines-fire-cruise-missiles/

    Two Russian submarines have fired Kalibr cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea, hitting Islamic State terrorist targets in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement.
    Seven Kalibr cruise missiles were launched Thursday from Russia’s Velikiy Novgorod and Kolpino submarines in the eastern Mediterranean, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    Targets hit included “control centers, communication hubs, militant weapons and ammunition warehouses in ISIS-controlled areas in southeast Deir ez-Zor,” the ministry said in a statement.

    The missiles hit all the planned targets, which were within a range of 500 to 670 kilometers, the ministry added.
    Russia is assisting the Syrian military to liberate the country’s territory from IS terrorists.


    Advanced Kilo Pr 636.3 class subs again proving how very effective they can be! russia
    Well that's one way to show you have arrived on station and to burn some production paint off.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  HUNTER VZLA on Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:26 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:2 Russian submarines fire cruise missiles from Mediterranean, hitting ISIS targets in Syria

    https://www.rt.com/news/403307-2-russian-submarines-fire-cruise-missiles/

    Two Russian submarines have fired Kalibr cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea, hitting Islamic State terrorist targets in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement.
    Seven Kalibr cruise missiles were launched Thursday from Russia’s Velikiy Novgorod and Kolpino submarines in the eastern Mediterranean, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    Targets hit included “control centers, communication hubs, militant weapons and ammunition warehouses in ISIS-controlled areas in southeast Deir ez-Zor,” the ministry said in a statement.

    The missiles hit all the planned targets, which were within a range of 500 to 670 kilometers, the ministry added.
    Russia is assisting the Syrian military to liberate the country’s territory from IS terrorists.


    Advanced Kilo Pr 636.3 class subs again proving how very effective they can be! russia



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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  HUNTER VZLA on Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:33 pm

    A-50, Hmeymim Airbase,Syria.






    Sukhoi Su-25s low pass. Deir ez-Zor


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:23 pm

    HUNTER VZLA wrote:A-50, Hmeymim Airbase,Syria.

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    Damn that's a sweet pic right there. thumbsup
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:27 pm


    From other tread:
    http://www.russiadefence.net/t7007p475-vvs-russian-air-force-news-2#204612
    T-47 wrote:Finally an air force Fulcrum in Syria? @AMCXXL got any info?



    0:10, is that a dog chasing an airplane? Hahahaha lol1

    Damn, I know dogs chase cars sometimes but this pooch in next level hardcore!!!

    Maybe he is going after the gig in the space programe? After all he is standing on the shoulders of giants. thumbsup russia
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:40 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    0:10, is that a dog chasing an airplane? Hahahaha  lol1

    Damn, I know dogs chase cars sometimes but this pooch in next level hardcore!!!

    Maybe he is going after the gig in the space programe? After all he is standing on the shoulders of giants.   thumbsup  russia
    Probably recognised the pilot. Bloody clever Russian dogs.

    That must be the only place in the world where the press, and dogs, are allowed actually on the main runway during ops.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:05 am

    calm wrote:@JohninMK
    Please post link to tweet next time.
    OK but not sure which one? This is the one I think. It also should have been in the other thread. I have copied this part across to this thread from the other Syria thread.

    Ru Deputy Chief of General Staff Lt Gen Makushev confirms employment of modified Kh-35U vs ground targets in Syria.

    https://twitter.com/pfc_joker/status/908215581731672064

    Also referenced at link big document in Russian that I don't understand.

    http://redstar.ru/index.php/component/k2/item/34415-sirijskaya-proverka-boem


    MoD video at link

    Harry Boone‏ @towersight

    New " X / KH " payload on RuAF' Su-34 in Syria
    Shorter than Kh-35 . New air to ground missile



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