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    miketheterrible

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:38 pm

    https://m.tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201706151543-phm1.htm/amp/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:%20tvzvezdafeeds%20(#??????)

    for those who may not understand:

    It is about when Russian forces are able to leave the frontlines and head back to their respective Russian bases in Syria. They predict 2018 is when. So expect heavy Russian presence on frontlines till then. Major effort of Russia is to build up Syria's military capabilities. This shows Russia's dedication and about being in the long haul. Regardless of sanctions or not, Russia is acting like a true partner.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  Bolt on Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:51 pm

    In case people haven't seen it, a guy has posted (https://2ch.hk/wm/res/2707549.html) some interesting videos and photos, claiming he is the author:

    https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/874592814448996352

    He has a pretty thick Southern Russian/Ukrainian accent, and also claims he is from a Russian PMC.

    Some interesting moments:
    he says Russian choppers are being used too carefully from a maximum distance, with petty results. The artillery is much more efficient.
    He mentions Hezbollah as an efficient fighting force
    There are a lot of casualties (KIA and WIA) because of the IEDs among the Russians, but per capita the casualty number is small. [meaning there a lot of them deployed]
    That Russian airfield, satellite photos of which where everywhere during the winter with several destroyed choppers - he says it wasn't because of the shelling, but an incident with the stove triggered a big fire, mentions "few/several" Russian soldiers died in fire because they were not fast enough to leave the tent.
    mentions that the counter artillery fire is almost non-existent.

    he also posted a video of an ISIS drone attack against Russian troops. mentioned, that the video was taken from a "trophy mobile":

    https://twitter.com/bolt_ik/status/874700340649709572
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:50 pm

    That Russian airfield, satellite photos of which where everywhere during the winter with several destroyed choppers - he says it wasn't because of the shelling, but an incident with the stove triggered a big fire, mentions "few/several" Russian soldiers died in fire because they were not fast enough to leave the tent.

    WTF

    This is so disgusting that russian lives were lost to such a trivial cause. Just unbelievable. How the fuck does a stove become napalm?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:12 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    That Russian airfield, satellite photos of which where everywhere during the winter with several destroyed choppers - he says it wasn't because of the shelling, but an incident with the stove triggered a big fire, mentions "few/several" Russian soldiers died in fire because they were not fast enough to leave the tent.

    WTF

    This is so disgusting that russian lives were lost to such a trivial cause. Just unbelievable. How the fuck does a stove become napalm?

    like anything else - a mistake. A small tinder can spread into a full fledged fire if left unattended. I've seen fires spread like you wouldn't believe.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:49 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:
    That Russian airfield, satellite photos of which where everywhere during the winter with several destroyed choppers - he says it wasn't because of the shelling, but an incident with the stove triggered a big fire, mentions "few/several" Russian soldiers died in fire because they were not fast enough to leave the tent.

    WTF

    This is so disgusting that russian lives were lost to such a trivial cause. Just unbelievable. How the fuck does a stove become napalm?

    like anything else - a mistake. A small tinder can spread into a full fledged fire if left unattended. I've seen fires spread like you wouldn't believe.

    Then that means that the units there aren't trained enough with fire safety.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  auslander on Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:33 pm

    Stop being so gullible. Nothing is verified from this supposed PMC member.

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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:09 am

    auslander wrote:Stop being so gullible. Nothing is verified from this supposed PMC member.

    Aside that the Drone attack , shows total failure. If you look at the video of the drone.
    the mini explosive when launched , is deviated significantly by strong air away of the Russian troops positions. and what appears to be one lonely soldier was moving in the direction of the bomb and still even being close of the zone of the impact , he retreats after the explosion.
    So zero casualties. was the end result.

    If the video is true ,which will not surprise me ,the level of incompetence of Russia military.
    Allowing drones of ISIS to fly as if they did not had a fucking way to jam terrorist drones.
    Is totally unacceptable. Russia military is supposed to always had a jamming unit always near
    their soldiers positions. Or a jamming gun. in the end of the video , the drone is not shot down.
    even after the bomb attack ,something that could have been taken down with an assault rifle
    easily..so either is total incompetence of Russia military or the video is fake.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:35 am

    or weapons that are not effective are not considered threats.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:24 pm


    Part 3 promo:

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  calm on Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:57 pm

    RuAF leveling some bildings in Raqqa to the ground.





    Allegedly and Baghdadi was there.
    https://www.facebook.com/1492252324350852/photos/a.1492313031011448.1073741828.1492252324350852/1941526459423434/?type=3&theater
    At the end of may, 2017 the command of the Russian armed forces in the Syrian Arab Republic was received information on the southern outskirts of the city of raqqa meeting of leaders of terrorist group ISIS.

    The Audit further information has been able to figure out what the purpose was planning an exit routes of fighters from al-Raqqa through the so-called "Southern corridor".

    On 28 may 2017 G. Upon Confirmation of unmanned aerial vehicle means data on time by ISIS, the ringleaders of the command center, where were the warlords, from 00.35 to 00.45 icn aerospace forces aircraft was hit.

    Following the attack aircraft su-35 and SU-34 destroyed by senior commanders of the terrorist group who made up the so-called military council ISIS, as well as about 30 warlords middle management and as many as 300 fighters to their personal safety.

    Among the liquidated terrorists - Emir Raqqa Abu Al-Hajj Al-Mysri, Emir Ibrahim an-Nayef Al-Haj, district from g. Raqqa before n.p. v. es sukhne and chief of security ISIS Suleiman Al-Shauakh.

    The information that is verified through various channels, the meeting was also attended by ISIS leader Ibrahim Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who as a result of impact was destroyed.

    About time and place of action the Russian aviation channelled through interaction was advance stateside.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:26 pm

    Those are claimed to be the 'big hit' buildings on night of the 28/29th May. Looking at the second picture taken on the 29th there seems to be a remarkable lack of collateral damage around the buildings, like some burnt out technicals that transported the 330 odd ISIS guys in. With that number there would have been a pretty crowded carpark.

    Has the RuAF suddenly got 100% spot on bombing accuracy so that only the buildings got hit, not shown particularly in their recent drone footage, or has ISIS suddenly become very neat and tidy, within hours getting rid of all the damaged stuff? Not even any rescue type activity there, or any evidence of people. Ah, I know, it was siesta!
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:37 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Those are claimed to be the 'big hit' buildings on night of the 28/29th May. Looking at the second picture taken on the 29th there seems to be a remarkable lack of collateral damage around the buildings, like some burnt out technicals that transported the 330 odd ISIS guys in. With that number there would have been a pretty crowded carpark.

    Has the RuAF suddenly got 100% spot on bombing accuracy so that only the buildings got hit, not shown particularly in their recent drone footage, or has ISIS suddenly become very neat and tidy, within hours getting rid of all the damaged stuff? Not even any rescue type activity there, or any evidence of people. Ah, I know, it was siesta!

    Well we do know that VKS have plenty of stuff that can do this (Al-Shishani can attest to that) they just prefer to dump old stuff in the desert. This however was not desert and there was also hospital next door.

    As for car park they are in the city so walking would be preferable especially if they want to keep the meeting hush-hush.

    30 big shots with 10 men posse each = 300 give or take

    It will be a while before we know for sure but the fact that they blew up those bridges today of all days makes me feel optimistic.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  BKP on Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:48 pm

    ^^^Keeping fingers crossed. In at least one of the 3 debates, I remember Hillary saying that as president she'd be making a priority of "going after bag-daddy." I guess that would be roughly concurrent with initiating the final salvo of WW3. Anyhow, all taken care of Hills (hopefully)!
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    Post  crod on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:49 pm

    Irish Times reports full info transfer to the US prior to attack which I find odd for a couple of reasons. The Yanks are checking the reports also but believe the strike was a monster hit/success.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:17 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Those are claimed to be the 'big hit' buildings on night of the 28/29th May. Looking at the second picture taken on the 29th there seems to be a remarkable lack of collateral damage around the buildings, like some burnt out technicals that transported the 330 odd ISIS guys in. With that number there would have been a pretty crowded carpark.

    Has the RuAF suddenly got 100% spot on bombing accuracy so that only the buildings got hit, not shown particularly in their recent drone footage, or has ISIS suddenly become very neat and tidy, within hours getting rid of all the damaged stuff? Not even any rescue type activity there, or any evidence of people. Ah, I know, it was siesta!

    Well we do know that VKS have plenty of stuff that can do this (Al-Shishani can attest to that) they just prefer to dump old stuff in the desert. This however was not desert and there was also hospital next door.

    As for car park they are in the city so walking would be preferable especially if they want to keep the meeting hush-hush.

    30 big shots with 10 men posse each = 300 give or take

    It will be a while before we know for sure but the fact that they blew up those bridges today of all days makes me feel optimistic.

    Mmmmmmmm, found this, did the event even happen, and if so who did it?

    https://citeam.org/investigating-the...d-isis-leader/
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  kvs on Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:15 pm

    People are brainwashed so much by the propaganda that Russia does not have precision bombing capacity that
    there is cognitive dissonance when it actually occurs. If Russia can get dumb bombs to hit precise targets
    at the 90% level, it can sure get 100% precision hits with actual guided munitions. And Russian guided munitions
    come in a spectrum of sizes to allow custom hits such as this one.

    Do people think that manned rockets are trivial to design compared to some guided bomb? Seriously?
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:12 am


    A-50U at Hmeim

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:19 am

    It'd be pretty standard to use PGMs in the case of a VIP like Al-Bigdaddy, if they had the intel then they'd certainly want to make sure they incinerated the target first go. The MoD also claimed it was a Flanker-E and Hellduck that carried out the attack, which screams precision strike.

    IN saying this, however, they may have just bullshitted the proof of the attack for whatever reason. Seems odd, and is kind of another strike on Ru MoD's rather humorous PR ventures, but I assume they have a reason for it. The link John shared would suggest some black-magic mumbo jumbo going on, and that 300 number is pretty high for a man who has repeatedly escaped previous assassination attempts. However, it's still ELA which I have a habit of distrusting given prior experience with Bellingcat.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  GarryB on Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:37 am

    In Grozny the Russian air force targeted and destroyed bunkers under high rise buildings.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  calm on Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:12 pm

    part 3
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:38 am

    Don't know if this has been posted but:



    According to the video, the agreement for air defense of the base is 60km's. Why only 60km's? Why would Russia even agree to this?
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  Regular on Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:59 am

    Shocked Putin is bit of a dick, there's tons of good footage of Mi-28 and KA-52 attacks... And here he shows Apache video...
    https://twitter.com/CITeam_ru/status/877152234940895232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fnews%2F393501-stone-reacts-putin-video-allegations%2F
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

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    New round of presents for the beardies.

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    OminousSpudd wrote:New round of presents for the beardies.
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