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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  eehnie on Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:38 pm

    par far wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:Putin have a small force in Syria and still seeking to reduce it more..   Rolling Eyes



    I guess this is showing the finger to Syria in Palmyra that Russia lost control of it after having a military base there ,and had to evacuate their soldiers before the battle began. If this is another brain short circuit of Putin with a mission accomplish ?   Rolling Eyes

    Russia weakness in Syria does not send a good message to NATO seeking to over run it.
    Putin forgets Obama still have close to 1 month in power left that he can cause a lot of damage
    and is not certain that Trump will be able to end the war at all ,with most of its congress ,CIA and Pentagon in support of the continuation of it.


    This is more politics and games, Russia might decrease, the numbers of Russian troops but it will not have a effect on the missions that are ongoing or are being planned. And let's not forget, that if needed Russia, can increase the number of troops in mere hours.

    Not sure if Vann is understanding that this is a part of a peace offert, that is being done in a good military environment for Russia, and that has other measures associated.

    It is a right timing for Russia to do it.

    Nothing to blame to Russia on this.

    PS: Not to Vann, but the Turkish propaganda seems off topic here.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:39 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:Palmyra may have been a nice bait all along. It probably served its purpose and with US elections, etc. nobody remembers it (sadly). The real prize was Aleppo. This is me being very cynical about it, thinking that geopolitics require lots of cynicism and resolve on achieving objectives. Russia's playing the long game here, playing to win big and further down the line. I say they're doing well in meeting their targets.

    Yes, big fat bait for PR points. Old word does business the old way.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:01 pm


    Whatever gives Vann more menstrual pains is good in my book so: Go Ceasefire!!!
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  auslander on Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:43 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Whatever gives Vann more menstrual pains is good in my book so: Go Ceasefire!!!

    +100 Shucks, just replace the pills in his Midol bottle with laxative tablets.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  higurashihougi on Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:05 pm

    From Russia with Love

    https://www.rt.com/news/372370-russia-gives-hospital-syria/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    As Russia’s Emergencies Ministry wraps up its medical mission in Aleppo, it is leaving behind its leftover medical equipment and medicine stockpiles as a gift from Russia to Syria. Syria now has a hospital outfitted to be airlifted to wherever needed.
    The ministry dispatched the hospital and medical personnel to Syria in November as the fight for the eastern part of Aleppo turned in favor of the government forces. Over the month, it has treated over 1,500 patients, most of whom were women and children.

    The hospital includes 16 medical and technical pods, as well as 22 connectors and gateway modules, which can be airlifted to a location in need of medical assistance and deployed in the required configuration. The facility can serve up to 200 patients a day and has 60 beds for inpatients.

    The mobile hospital has three surgery sections and an intensive care unit, as well as bays for regular patient diagnostics and treatment, plus living quarters for the medical staff.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:08 pm


    Typhoon-K in the background.


    Chernobog be praised, it finally happened!!!  thumbsup

    Hope we saw the last of those stupid capsule-trucks....
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  calm on Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:25 pm

    The work of Russian military engineers demining Aleppo




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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  calm on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:43 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Typhoon-K in the background.


    Chernobog be praised, it finally happened!!!  thumbsup

    Hope we saw the last of those stupid capsule-trucks....


    Nice catch!

    one more
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  KiloGolf on Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:48 pm

    calm wrote:Nice catch!

    one more

    No way! That's great stuff, good job Russia. russia
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:41 pm


    Guys, it's been ages since we had fresh photo or video from Hmeim air base.

    Almost nothing for nearly a year even though they have been working round the clock.

    So what is up with that? Any clues?
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  KiloGolf on Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:55 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Guys, it's been ages since we had fresh photo or video from Hmeim air base.

    Almost nothing for nearly a year even though they have been working round the clock.

    So what is up with that? Any clues?

    https://twitter.com/kash3049/status/812449809835683840











    Last one is from early November.. unshaven


    @WarfareWW  14 Nov 2016
    @WarfareWW R-33 (AA-9 Amos) long-range air-to-air missile at #Hmeimim. Primary armament of the MiG-31, intended to attack high-speed targets

    Not sure about the above, too flat background to be in Syria... dunno
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:05 am


    Thanks.

    Still, back in the old days we were getting entire album of airplane porn from Hmeim every couple of days and now barely anything.

    So lame...

    I wonder how many sorties that Fencer with 100 stars has now.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:17 am

    KiloGolf wrote:



    Think this one must be from a long time ago, March? since the Su-25s are on the apron.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  calm on Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:00 pm

    Russian Special Forces, Syria Army target ISIS terrorists in west Palmyra
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-special-forces-syria-army-target-isis-terrorists-west-palmyra-video/


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    That annotations on ruptly videos are annoying...

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:00 am

    Think this one must be from a long time ago, March? since the Su-25s are on the apron.


    My expert opinion based on the way the wind is blowing and the prevailing choice of camo paint I would suspect that image was taken on the 19th of November 2015 give or take a few minutes... based on the information at the bottom of the page in the image... Smile


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  KiloGolf on Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:21 am

    Think this one must be from a long time ago, March? since the Su-25s are on the apron.

    November or early December is a recent as it gets, the Armenian Il-76 and Russian MP arrival.
    The map is relative to the question, hence me going like this: ... unshaven I was questioning it as well.

    GarryB wrote:My expert opinion based on the way the wind is blowing and the prevailing choice of camo paint I would suspect that image was taken on the 19th of November 2015 give or take a few minutes... based on the information at the bottom of the page in the image...  Smile

    I didn't judge it by the google maps date, I was also skeptical about it as a whole. Replying to other members on-topic and keeping the conversation going is far more productive.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  calm on Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:41 pm

    Recent Satellite Imagery show 9K720 Iskander short-range ballistic missile system deployment at #Latakia airbase in #Syria. #Russia


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:33 am

    Russian RoRo Alexandr Tkachenko first trip to Syria for 2017 with military trucks. Its the second trip south in 21 days. All part of the Russian 'withdrawal' we are hearing about.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  calm on Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:44 pm

    "The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots"

    Crazy, what did they expect? And it's not an international airspace, they're not invited in Syria.

    Full article here - http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-pilots-see-close-calls-with-russian-jets-over-syria-1483978574


    One night this past fall, a U.S. radar plane flying a routine pattern over Syria picked up a signal from an incoming Russian fighter jet.

    The American crew radioed repeated warnings on a frequency universally used for distress signals. The Russian pilot didn’t respond.

    Instead, as the U.S. plane began a wide sweep to the south, the Russian fighter, an advanced Su-35 Flanker, turned north and east across the American plane’s nose, churned up a wave of turbulent air in its path and briefly disrupted its sensitive electronics.

    “We assessed that guy to be within one-eighth of a mile—a few hundred feet away—and unaware of it,” said U.S. Air Force Col. Paul Birch, commander of the 380th Expeditionary Operations Group, a unit based in the Persian Gulf.

    A Russian Su-35 Flanker fighter shadows U.S. F-15s as they refuel over Syria in September. The photo, taken by a camera on one of the American planes, shows the Russian pilot far closer than the three-mile safety limit set in a 2015 U.S.-Russian agreement. PHOTO: U.S. AIR FORCE


    The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots. It is an unprecedented situation in which for months U.S. and Russian jets have crowded the same airspace fighting parallel wars, with American pilots bombing Islamic State worried about colliding with Russian pilots bombing rebels trying to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. Russian warplanes, which also attack Islamic State targets, are still flying daily over Syria despite the recent cease-fire in Moscow’s campaign against the anti-Assad forces, according to the U.S. Air Force.

    The U.S. and Russian militaries have a year-old air safety agreement, but American pilots still find themselves having close calls with Russian aviators either unaware of the rules of the road, or unable or unwilling to follow them consistently.

    “Rarely, if ever, do they respond verbally,” said Brig. Gen. Charles Corcoran, commander of the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing, who flies combat missions in a stealth fighter. “Rarely, if ever, do they move. We get out of the way. We don’t know what they can see or not see, and we don’t want them running into one of us.”... :>

    ...But the Russians are prone to ignoring the conventions of air safety, according to the American pilots. Planes world-wide carry transponders that emit a four-digit code allowing air-traffic controllers to identify them, a practice called squawking. Russian planes over Syria don’t squawk, and they appear as an unidentified bleep to allied radar installations.

    Nor do the Russians usually answer “guard calls,” urgent summons on a common emergency radio frequency. In one eight-hour shift on Dec. 11, for instance, the crew of a U.S. radar plane, called an AWACS, made 22 such calls to some 10 Russian planes and received not a single response. A few of the Russians approached within five miles of allied aircraft.

    The controller aboard the AWACS scattered U.S. planes to keep them clear of the Russians. “We’ve had several co-altitude incidents,” the officer said, referring to planes flying too close together.

    Russian pilots have sometimes broken their silence when contacted by a female air-traffic controller.

    In early September, a female U.S. air-surveillance officer spotted an unidentified plane approaching allied aircraft over Syria. “You’re operating in the vicinity of coalition aircraft,” she warned the pilot.

    A heavy Russian accent emerged through the static: “You have a nice voice, lady. Good evening.”..

    ...That’s not always the case. In September, an Su-35 shadowed an American F-15 fighter as it ended a bombing run over Syria and pulled up to a tanker plane to refuel. The U.S. pilot filmed the Russian running alongside the American planes, about a mile-and-a-half away, said Col. Birch.

    At times, Russian planes plow through tightly controlled groupings of allied aircraft over Raqqa. Russian bombers, flying to Syria via Iran, have crossed Iraq and disrupted allied flight patterns over the battlefields of Mosul.

    Lt. Col. August “Pfoto” Pfluger, a stealth-fighter pilot, witnessed such an incident over Iraq in August.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:51 pm

    In early September, a female U.S. air-surveillance officer spotted an unidentified plane approaching allied aircraft over Syria. “You’re operating in the vicinity of coalition aircraft,” she warned the pilot.

    A heavy Russian accent emerged through the static: “You have a nice voice, lady. Good evening.”..

    East Europe man.... lol1
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:41 pm

    I think it's all SJW-level BS. As if the Russian pilot "was unaware of the F-15" and was typical "sexist", as he'd respond only to women. Suspect
    Don't buy it.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #11

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:17 pm

    Is this a new video? If so it looks like some Su-25 are back.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:22 pm


    Ninjad by JohninMK yet again.... cry I fail once more...


    Looks like Su-25 is back by popular demand.

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    Post  Firebird on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:58 pm

    calm wrote:"The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots"

    Crazy, what did they expect? And it's not an international airspace, they're not invited in Syria.

    Full article here - http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-pilots-see-close-calls-with-russian-jets-over-syria-1483978574


    One night this past fall, a U.S. radar plane flying a routine pattern over Syria picked up a signal from an incoming Russian fighter jet.

    The American crew radioed repeated warnings on a frequency universally used for distress signals. The Russian pilot didn’t respond.

    Instead, as the U.S. plane began a wide sweep to the south, the Russian fighter, an advanced Su-35 Flanker, turned north and east across the American plane’s nose, churned up a wave of turbulent air in its path and briefly disrupted its sensitive electronics.

    “We assessed that guy to be within one-eighth of a mile—a few hundred feet away—and unaware of it,” said U.S. Air Force Col. Paul Birch, commander of the 380th Expeditionary Operations Group, a unit based in the Persian Gulf.

    A Russian Su-35 Flanker fighter shadows U.S. F-15s as they refuel over Syria in September. The photo, taken by a camera on one of the American planes, shows the Russian pilot far closer than the three-mile safety limit set in a 2015 U.S.-Russian agreement. PHOTO: U.S. AIR FORCE


    The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots. It is an unprecedented situation in which for months U.S. and Russian jets have crowded the same airspace fighting parallel wars, with American pilots bombing Islamic State worried about colliding with Russian pilots bombing rebels trying to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. Russian warplanes, which also attack Islamic State targets, are still flying daily over Syria despite the recent cease-fire in Moscow’s campaign against the anti-Assad forces, according to the U.S. Air Force.

    The U.S. and Russian militaries have a year-old air safety agreement, but American pilots still find themselves having close calls with Russian aviators either unaware of the rules of the road, or unable or unwilling to follow them consistently.

    “Rarely, if ever, do they respond verbally,” said Brig. Gen. Charles Corcoran, commander of the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing, who flies combat missions in a stealth fighter. “Rarely, if ever, do they move. We get out of the way. We don’t know what they can see or not see, and we don’t want them running into one of us.”...   :>

    ...But the Russians are prone to ignoring the conventions of air safety, according to the American pilots. Planes world-wide carry transponders that emit a four-digit code allowing air-traffic controllers to identify them, a practice called squawking. Russian planes over Syria don’t squawk, and they appear as an unidentified bleep to allied radar installations.

    Nor do the Russians usually answer “guard calls,” urgent summons on a common emergency radio frequency. In one eight-hour shift on Dec. 11, for instance, the crew of a U.S. radar plane, called an AWACS, made 22 such calls to some 10 Russian planes and received not a single response. A few of the Russians approached within five miles of allied aircraft.

    The controller aboard the AWACS scattered U.S. planes to keep them clear of the Russians. “We’ve had several co-altitude incidents,” the officer said, referring to planes flying too close together.

    Russian pilots have sometimes broken their silence when contacted by a female air-traffic controller.

    In early September, a female U.S. air-surveillance officer spotted an unidentified plane approaching allied aircraft over Syria. “You’re operating in the vicinity of coalition aircraft,” she warned the pilot.

    A heavy Russian accent emerged through the static: “You have a nice voice, lady. Good evening.”..

    ...That’s not always the case. In September, an Su-35 shadowed an American F-15 fighter as it ended a bombing run over Syria and pulled up to a tanker plane to refuel. The U.S. pilot filmed the Russian running alongside the American planes, about a mile-and-a-half away, said Col. Birch.

    At times, Russian planes plow through tightly controlled groupings of allied aircraft over Raqqa. Russian bombers, flying to Syria via Iran, have crossed Iraq and disrupted allied flight patterns over the battlefields of Mosul.

    Lt. Col. August “Pfoto” Pfluger, a stealth-fighter pilot, witnessed such an incident over Iraq in August.  

    It really shows the arrogance of these pricks.
    They call themselves the "coalition". WTF.

    Everyone else calls them bullies, invaders, creators of ISIS.

    The only people they're in coalition with in Syria is the terrorists, certainly NOT the Syrian govt.

    If they got shot down it'd only be a fraction of what they deserve.

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    Post  Azi on Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:26 pm

    Firebird wrote:
    calm wrote:"The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots"

    Crazy, what did they expect? And it's not an international airspace, they're not invited in Syria.

    Full article here - http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-pilots-see-close-calls-with-russian-jets-over-syria-1483978574


    One night this past fall, a U.S. radar plane flying a routine pattern over Syria picked up a signal from an incoming Russian fighter jet.

    The American crew radioed repeated warnings on a frequency universally used for distress signals. The Russian pilot didn’t respond.

    Instead, as the U.S. plane began a wide sweep to the south, the Russian fighter, an advanced Su-35 Flanker, turned north and east across the American plane’s nose, churned up a wave of turbulent air in its path and briefly disrupted its sensitive electronics.

    “We assessed that guy to be within one-eighth of a mile—a few hundred feet away—and unaware of it,” said U.S. Air Force Col. Paul Birch, commander of the 380th Expeditionary Operations Group, a unit based in the Persian Gulf.

    A Russian Su-35 Flanker fighter shadows U.S. F-15s as they refuel over Syria in September. The photo, taken by a camera on one of the American planes, shows the Russian pilot far closer than the three-mile safety limit set in a 2015 U.S.-Russian agreement. PHOTO: U.S. AIR FORCE


    The skies above Syria are an international incident waiting to happen, according to American pilots. It is an unprecedented situation in which for months U.S. and Russian jets have crowded the same airspace fighting parallel wars, with American pilots bombing Islamic State worried about colliding with Russian pilots bombing rebels trying to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. Russian warplanes, which also attack Islamic State targets, are still flying daily over Syria despite the recent cease-fire in Moscow’s campaign against the anti-Assad forces, according to the U.S. Air Force.

    The U.S. and Russian militaries have a year-old air safety agreement, but American pilots still find themselves having close calls with Russian aviators either unaware of the rules of the road, or unable or unwilling to follow them consistently.

    “Rarely, if ever, do they respond verbally,” said Brig. Gen. Charles Corcoran, commander of the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing, who flies combat missions in a stealth fighter. “Rarely, if ever, do they move. We get out of the way. We don’t know what they can see or not see, and we don’t want them running into one of us.”...   :>

    ...But the Russians are prone to ignoring the conventions of air safety, according to the American pilots. Planes world-wide carry transponders that emit a four-digit code allowing air-traffic controllers to identify them, a practice called squawking. Russian planes over Syria don’t squawk, and they appear as an unidentified bleep to allied radar installations.

    Nor do the Russians usually answer “guard calls,” urgent summons on a common emergency radio frequency. In one eight-hour shift on Dec. 11, for instance, the crew of a U.S. radar plane, called an AWACS, made 22 such calls to some 10 Russian planes and received not a single response. A few of the Russians approached within five miles of allied aircraft.

    The controller aboard the AWACS scattered U.S. planes to keep them clear of the Russians. “We’ve had several co-altitude incidents,” the officer said, referring to planes flying too close together.

    Russian pilots have sometimes broken their silence when contacted by a female air-traffic controller.

    In early September, a female U.S. air-surveillance officer spotted an unidentified plane approaching allied aircraft over Syria. “You’re operating in the vicinity of coalition aircraft,” she warned the pilot.

    A heavy Russian accent emerged through the static: “You have a nice voice, lady. Good evening.”..

    ...That’s not always the case. In September, an Su-35 shadowed an American F-15 fighter as it ended a bombing run over Syria and pulled up to a tanker plane to refuel. The U.S. pilot filmed the Russian running alongside the American planes, about a mile-and-a-half away, said Col. Birch.

    At times, Russian planes plow through tightly controlled groupings of allied aircraft over Raqqa. Russian bombers, flying to Syria via Iran, have crossed Iraq and disrupted allied flight patterns over the battlefields of Mosul.

    Lt. Col. August “Pfoto” Pfluger, a stealth-fighter pilot, witnessed such an incident over Iraq in August.  

    It really shows the arrogance of these pricks.
    They call themselves the "coalition". WTF.

    Everyone else calls them bullies, invaders, creators of ISIS.

    The only people they're in coalition with in Syria is the terrorists, certainly NOT the Syrian govt.

    If they got shot down it'd only be a fraction of what they deserve.

    They try to provoke Syria and Russia! Latest news was that US Air Force is bombing around in Idlib and don't inform Russian Forces. Idlib is really dangerous near to Khmeimim Air Base.

    Aim of the Obama administration is, that Russia shoot down something (fighter, bomber drone...whatever!) that belongs to USA for a new round of hysteric sanctions and propaganda. Normal US soldiers and officers are not aware of this fact and only victims of their own aggressive administration.

    What piss me really off is that USA is acting over Syria like it's Arizona, California or some other part of their country. NO! Syria is a independent and sovereign country! Only Russia has the syrian permission to throw bombs, beside SyAAF.

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