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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  par far on Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:06 am

    JohninMK wrote:As expected but good to hear anyway.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – According to Lt. Gen. Sergei Rudskoi, chief of the Russian General Staff Main Operational Directorate, Russia is monitoring the situation in Mosul. There has been no evidence of the US-led coalition’s significant successes in liberating the city from the Daesh militants.

    "The Russian Aerospace Forces are monitoring the situation on the Syria-Iraq border around the clock using drones and other reconnaissance devices. The Russian planes are on duty in the sky, ready for immediate strikes against terrorists," he told a briefing.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201610251046713670-russia-militants-syria-iraq/





    So much for watching Syria-Iraq border, NATO is moving in on Raqqa.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  Erk on Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:36 am

    par far wrote:
    So much for watching Syria-Iraq border, NATO is moving in on Raqqa.

    This is very bad, I bet NATO are going to annex East of the river for someone.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  par far on Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:49 am

    Erk wrote:
    par far wrote:
    So much for watching Syria-Iraq border, NATO is moving in on Raqqa.

    This is very bad, I bet NATO are going to annex East of the river for someone.


    This is big blunder for Russia.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  Airman on Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:05 am

    Assad regime strike kills 2 FSA fighters, injure 5 in n. Syria

    Regime strikes won't stop Turkey's anti-Daesh fight, FM Çavuşoğlu says


    Edit: Turkish Armed Forces and Turkey-backed Syrian opposition groups are preparing for a 2nd Tell Rifaat offensive. Also Turkish Armed Forces deployed some Atılgan Stinger Systems near South Marea for against any SyAAF air strike.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:52 pm

    Can't see any potential problems here Laughing

    WASHINGTON(Sputnik) — US forces are on the ground in Syria, equipping, advising, and training Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and partners for the operation to isolate and then retake the Daesh stronghold of Raqqa, Coalition Commander Lt. Gen. Stephen Townsend said at a briefing Wednesday. “I will not talk about locations where our US forces are in Syria but they are there," Townsend stated. "They equip and train at various locations, and we have advise and assist teams that will accompany partner forces anywhere they fight Daesh."

    On Tuesday, US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter said that "capable, motivated" local Syrian forces would lead the offensive on the city. Raqqa operation is expected to overlap with the offensive to retake Iraq's Mosul, according to the Defense Department.


    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201610261046771311-us-syrian-opposition-raqqa-operation/

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:37 pm

    Airman wrote:Assad regime strike kills 2 FSA fighters, injure 5 in n. Syria

    Regime strikes won't stop Turkey's anti-Daesh fight, FM Çavuşoğlu says


    Edit: Turkish Armed Forces and Turkey-backed Syrian opposition groups are preparing for a 2nd Tell Rifaat offensive. Also Turkish Armed Forces deployed some Atılgan Stinger Systems near South Marea for against any SyAAF air strike.

    Which is going to do nothing at all over Syrian arispace. IF push comes to shove, the Russians are going to bomb the FSA if it moves towards Tell Rifaat.

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    Post  Erk on Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:45 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Can't see any potential problems here  Laughing

    WASHINGTON(Sputnik) — US forces are on the ground in Syria, equipping, advising, and training Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and partners for the operation to isolate and then retake the Daesh stronghold of Raqqa, Coalition Commander Lt. Gen. Stephen Townsend said at a briefing Wednesday. “I will not talk about locations where our US forces are in Syria but they are there," Townsend stated. "They equip and train at various locations, and we have advise and assist teams that will accompany partner forces anywhere they fight Daesh."

    On Tuesday, US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter said that "capable, motivated" local Syrian forces would lead the offensive on the city. Raqqa operation is expected to overlap with the offensive to retake Iraq's Mosul, according to the Defense Department.


    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201610261046771311-us-syrian-opposition-raqqa-operation/

    The Syrian Democratic Forces are a bunch of armed head chopping militant/jihadists hired to overthrow the Syrian government, along with the Kurds.
    They are most definitely not democratic, they intend to enforce their will at gun point.

    If the US give them MANPADs they will be used against civilian aircraft in an act of terrorism, probably at Turkey.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:53 pm

    Airman wrote:...................
    Edit: Turkish Armed Forces and Turkey-backed Syrian opposition groups are preparing for a 2nd Tell Rifaat offensive. Also Turkish Armed Forces deployed some Atılgan Stinger Systems near South Marea for against any SyAAF air strike.

    As long as they remember not to point those things into the sky or turn them on they will be fine.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  Airman on Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:56 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Airman wrote:Assad regime strike kills 2 FSA fighters, injure 5 in n. Syria

    Regime strikes won't stop Turkey's anti-Daesh fight, FM Çavuşoğlu says


    Edit: Turkish Armed Forces and Turkey-backed Syrian opposition groups are preparing for a 2nd Tell Rifaat offensive. Also Turkish Armed Forces deployed some Atılgan Stinger Systems near South Marea for against any SyAAF air strike.

    Which is going to do nothing at all over Syrian arispace. IF push comes to shove, the Russians are going to bomb the FSA if it moves towards Tell Rifaat.

    Tell Rifaat is a problem for us, Because YPG is still moving to el-Bab.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:25 am

    Airman wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Airman wrote:Assad regime strike kills 2 FSA fighters, injure 5 in n. Syria

    Regime strikes won't stop Turkey's anti-Daesh fight, FM Çavuşoğlu says


    Edit: Turkish Armed Forces and Turkey-backed Syrian opposition groups are preparing for a 2nd Tell Rifaat offensive. Also Turkish Armed Forces deployed some Atılgan Stinger Systems near South Marea for against any SyAAF air strike.

    Which is going to do nothing at all over Syrian arispace. IF push comes to shove, the Russians are going to bomb the FSA if it moves towards Tell Rifaat.

    Tell Rifaat is a problem for us, Because YPG is still moving to el-Bab.

    It is a problem for SAA too, because FSA isn't going to stop at Tell Rifaat. It's going to open a second front for Aleppo. So?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:53 pm

    A false flag created by CIA et al. ?

    https://www.rt.com/news/364253-school-strike-idlib-syria/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    22 schoolchildren, 6 teachers killed in attack in Syria’s Idlib province – reports

    At least 28 civilians, mostly children, were killed when the strikes hit a school complex in the village of Hass, the activists said, pinning the blame on either Russian or Syrian warplanes.

    Commenting on allegations that Russian jets could be responsible, Churkin said that Moscow will wait for the military to assess the situation.

    “It’s horrible, I hope we were not involved. It’s the easiest thing for me to say no, but I'm a responsible person, so I need to see what my Ministry of Defense is going to say,” he said.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  Airman on Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:22 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:It is a problem for SAA too, because FSA isn't going to stop at Tell Rifaat. It's going to open a second front for Aleppo. So?

    Every country has a different problems. YPG is still moving to el-Bab and we dont want it in Turkey but it maybe different for Russia and Syria.

    Russia and Syria think different from people in Turkey. You dont want the Free Syrian Army and I think You have right reasons about that. Turkey dont want YPG in Syria and We have right reasons so.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:48 pm

    Airman wrote:

    Russia and Syria think different from people in Turkey. You dont want the Free Syrian Army and I think You have right reasons about that. Turkey dont want YPG in Syria and We have right reasons so.

    You don't have any "Right" to be in Syria, Syria is a sovereign Country and Turkey is invading it.
    Those Kurds lived there for decades in peace in Syria until Erdogan began to arm ISIS to take land from Syria. Turkey is on Syria territory ,in an Illegal invasion of a sovereign nation and Syria have the right to fight back the invaders on their nations ,whenever it feels the time is right for that. Turkey have no right to move into another country and capture any territory with tanks with the pretext of "liberating it" . There are Kurds in IRANIAN border too ,Why Turkey does not invade IRAN? i guess you know the answer ,Chicken cowards like Turks will not invade a strong nation that its army is ready to fight back. Turkey is only taking advantage of Syria and IRAQ that they are busy fighting the terrorist that Erdogan for years support.

    Erdogan the dictator and its army ,needs to get the hell out of Syria , period ...and stop supporting ISIS and Alqaeda that there is plenty of evidence of this. and any other terrorist group like the FSA.  Those Stinger missiles will be harmless to Russian airforce or Syrian one if they fly above 7km-8km altitude that is their limit of their range. and those Turkey and FSA tanks in Syria will be sitting ducks , to target practice for bombing ,in case they dare to start to fight the Syrian army in Syria. And all the gains of Turkey military rolled out back to their  border if Erdogan do something stupid again. Again TUrkey have no right to invade other sovereign countries under any pretext. Already Syria gave you an ultimatum to your warplanes
    that will be shot down if enter again in Syria airspace. and Syria will not be using cheap stinger missiles ,but real Air Defenses ,that will blow up Turkey planes at any altitude they go over Syria territory.




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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  KiloGolf on Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:56 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    Airman wrote:

    Russia and Syria think different from people in Turkey. You dont want the Free Syrian Army and I think You have right reasons about that. Turkey dont want YPG in Syria and We have right reasons so.

    You don't have any "Right" to be in Syria, Syria is a sovereign Country and Turkey is invading it.

    +1

    Russia was invited by the Syrian government. Turkey is uninvited and illegally invading another sovereign country in the region.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  calm on Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:03 pm

    Souran recaptured

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:57 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    Airman wrote:

    Russia and Syria think different from people in Turkey. You dont want the Free Syrian Army and I think You have right reasons about that. Turkey dont want YPG in Syria and We have right reasons so.

    You don't have any "Right" to be in Syria, Syria is a sovereign Country and Turkey is invading it.

    +1

    Russia was invited by the Syrian government. Turkey is uninvited and illegally invading another sovereign country in the region.

    Agreed and this is not the only case of Turkey going south of the border without asking. They are doing it it in Iraq (again). There is a lot of very entertaining diplomatic hot air right now over it between Turkey, Iraq and USA over it.

    One upside to their presence is that someone will be holding FSA leash. When Turkish military is told later on to pack up, they will do it. After Su-24 ambush Russia supported Iraq when it demanded that Turks leave Iraqi Kurdistan and they left. They did come back later but only after making nice with Ruskies.

    So when they are told to get out of Syria they will do it even faster. In the meantime Turks and Kurds can have fun with each other up north as long as it does not adversely affect SAA.

    If it does well, we all know what happened to those FSA clowns who went off-script near Aleppo a week ago. Cool

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:56 pm

    Airman wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:It is a problem for SAA too, because FSA isn't going to stop at Tell Rifaat. It's going to open a second front for Aleppo. So?

    Every country has a different problems. YPG is still moving to el-Bab and we dont want it in Turkey but it maybe different for Russia and Syria.

    Russia and Syria think different from people in Turkey. You dont want the Free Syrian Army and I think You have right reasons about that. Turkey dont want YPG in Syria and We have right reasons so.

    It's exactly that. Two different agendas colliding. But at the end the FSA is going to be defeated and Kurds will find themselves sourrounded.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:33 pm


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  Airman on Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:57 pm

    Vann7 wrote:You don't have any "Right" to be in Syria, Syria is a sovereign Country and Turkey is invading it.
    Those Kurds lived there for decades in peace in Syria until Erdogan began to arm ISIS to take land from Syria.  Turkey is on Syria territory ,in an Illegal invasion of a sovereign nation and Syria have the right to fight back the invaders on their nations ,whenever it feels the time is right for that. Turkey have no right to move into another country and capture any territory with tanks with the pretext of "liberating it" . There are Kurds in IRANIAN border too ,Why Turkey does not invade IRAN? i guess you know the answer ,Chicken cowards like Turks will not invade a strong nation that its army is ready to fight back. Turkey is only taking advantage of Syria and IRAQ that they are busy fighting the terrorist that Erdogan for years support.

    Erdogan the dictator and its army ,needs to get the hell out of Syria , period ...and stop supporting ISIS and Alqaeda that there is plenty of evidence of this. and any other terrorist group like the FSA.  Those Stinger missiles will be harmless to Russian airforce or Syrian one if they fly above 7km-8km altitude that is their limit of their range. and those Turkey and FSA tanks in Syria will be sitting ducks , to target practice for bombing ,in case they dare to start to fight the Syrian army in Syria. And all the gains of Turkey military rolled out back to their  border if Erdogan do something stupid again.  Again TUrkey have no right to invade other sovereign countries under any pretext. Already Syria gave you an ultimatum to your warplanes
    that will be shot down if enter again in Syria airspace. and Syria will not be using cheap stinger missiles ,but real Air Defenses ,that will blow up Turkey planes at any altitude they go over Syria territory.

    What a hateful message....

    Turkish Republic doesn't invading force in Syria. Turkish Republic doesnt invade Syria. Because We don't need any new territory. If Kurds lives in peace in Syria, Why are YPG in Syria?

    Also Baathist Iraq is a sovereign state but USA attacked Baathist Iraq in Gulf War and It Invaded Baathist Iraq in 2003. Saddam didnt call USA and USA didnt get permission from Saddam.

    Ukraine an independent country. I think everyone knows what is going on in Ukraine now. Ukrania is a independent country and Russia is invading it. Russia created puppet state in Ukrania. Name is Novorossiya and Russia annexed Crimea unilaterally.

    Yes, Kurdish people lives in İran. Why Turkey does not invade İran? Because We don't have any problem with Kurdish People ''Who lives in Syria, İran, Iraq or Turkey. PKK or YPG doesnt represent the Kurds. Also Iran has a some problems with terrorist group. Called ''PJAK''. PJAK same with PKK and YPG. PJAK wants to establish Kurdish State in Iran called Iranian Kurdistan or Rojhilata( means ''East'' in Kurdish Language)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_separatism_in_Iran
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93PJAK_conflict

    Also Turkish Armed Forces bombed and attacked some PKK Camps in İran. These Camps near to Turkey-İran Border.

    YPG wants to establish Kurdish State in Syria called Rojova(means ''West'' in Kurdish Language)

    and PKK wants to establish Kurdish State in Turkey called Turkish Kurdistan or Bakur(means ''North'' in Kurdish Language)

    All of these groups are same. These organizations are united under the name of KCK.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Communities_Union

    Who is most support YPG in Syria? USA.

    USA and its Kurdish partners wants to establish ''Terror State''. Called ''Greater Kurdistan''. They want to get land from Syria, İran and Turkey. They succeeded in Iraq and They created Kurdistan Regional Government in Iraq.

    -USA's To Do List for Greater Kurdistan Project-

    First Stage
    -Iraq (Completed %100)
    Iraq was diveded
    Kurdish State Established

    Second Stage
    -Syria (Completing %75)
    Syria was divided
    YPG is trying to establish a state in Syria.
    USA supports YPG(PKK and PJAK) in Syria

    Third Stage
    - Turkey
    Turkish-PKK Conflict

    Fourth State
    -İran
    İran-PJAK Conflict

    Now let's talk a bit about Coward Chickens. Turks fought against a lot of country in WW1 and Independence war. Turks fought against a lot of country in Gallipoli and we won. İf you wanna sea real coward chickens, Look at Iraq Army. They losed a lof equipment and soldier against Daesh. Iraq soldiers are fleeing and They are leaving the equipment.

    And also Turkey doesn't support Daesh in Syria. Maybe Turkey supported Al-Nusra. But Daesh? I dont think so.
    Yes, Turkey didnt get permission from the Syrian government. Also USA, UK, France, Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark and Australia didnt get permission from the Syrian goverment and they bombed Deir ez-Zor Airport in Deir ez-Zor. A lot of SAA soldier died in this bombardment. I think Syrian government should shot down aircraft of these countries before Turkey. Because Turkish Air Force didnt bomd any SAA Base in Syria.

    And Also 2 or 3 day ago Turkish Air Force bombed some Daesh and YPG positions in Syria.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:22 pm

    Airman wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:You don't have any "Right" to be in Syria, Syria is a sovereign Country and Turkey is invading it.
    Those Kurds lived there for decades in peace in Syria until Erdogan began to arm ISIS to take land from Syria.  Turkey is on Syria territory ,in an Illegal invasion of a sovereign nation and Syria have the right to fight back the invaders on their nations ,whenever it feels the time is right for that. Turkey have no right to move into another country and capture any territory with tanks with the pretext of "liberating it" . There are Kurds in IRANIAN border too ,Why Turkey does not invade IRAN? i guess you know the answer ,Chicken cowards like Turks will not invade a strong nation that its army is ready to fight back. Turkey is only taking advantage of Syria and IRAQ that they are busy fighting the terrorist that Erdogan for years support.

    Erdogan the dictator and its army ,needs to get the hell out of Syria , period ...and stop supporting ISIS and Alqaeda that there is plenty of evidence of this. and any other terrorist group like the FSA.  Those Stinger missiles will be harmless to Russian airforce or Syrian one if they fly above 7km-8km altitude that is their limit of their range. and those Turkey and FSA tanks in Syria will be sitting ducks , to target practice for bombing ,in case they dare to start to fight the Syrian army in Syria. And all the gains of Turkey military rolled out back to their  border if Erdogan do something stupid again.  Again TUrkey have no right to invade other sovereign countries under any pretext. Already Syria gave you an ultimatum to your warplanes
    that will be shot down if enter again in Syria airspace. and Syria will not be using cheap stinger missiles ,but real Air Defenses ,that will blow up Turkey planes at any altitude they go over Syria territory.

    What a hateful message....

    Turkish Republic doesn't invading force in Syria. Turkish Republic doesnt invade Syria. Because We don't need any new territory. If Kurds lives in peace in Syria, Why are YPG in Syria?

    Also Baathist Iraq is a sovereign state but USA attacked Baathist Iraq in Gulf War and It Invaded Baathist Iraq in 2003. Saddam didnt call USA and USA didnt get permission from Saddam.

    Ukraine an independent country. I think everyone knows what is going on in Ukraine now. Ukrania is a independent country and Russia is invading it. Russia created puppet state in Ukrania. Name is Novorossiya and Russia annexed Crimea unilaterally.

    Yes, Kurdish people lives in İran. Why Turkey does not invade İran? Because We don't have any problem with Kurdish People ''Who lives in Syria, İran, Iraq or Turkey. PKK or YPG doesnt represent the Kurds. Also Iran has a some problems with terrorist group. Called ''PJAK''. PJAK same with PKK and YPG. PJAK wants to establish Kurdish State in Iran called Iranian Kurdistan or Rojhilata( means ''East'' in Kurdish Language)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_separatism_in_Iran
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93PJAK_conflict

    Also Turkish Armed Forces bombed and attacked some PKK Camps in İran. These Camps near to Turkey-İran Border.

    YPG wants to establish Kurdish State in Syria called Rojova(means ''West'' in Kurdish Language)

    and PKK wants to establish Kurdish State in Turkey called Turkish Kurdistan or Bakur(means ''North'' in Kurdish Language)

    All of these groups are same. These organizations are united under the name of KCK.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Communities_Union

    Who is most support YPG in Syria? USA.

    USA and its Kurdish partners wants to establish ''Terror State''. Called ''Greater Kurdistan''. They want to get land from Syria, İran and Turkey. They succeeded in Iraq and They created Kurdistan Regional Government in Iraq.

    -USA's To Do List for Greater Kurdistan Project-

    First Stage
    -Iraq (Completed %100)
    Iraq was diveded
    Kurdish State Established

    Second Stage
    -Syria (Completing %75)
    Syria was divided
    YPG is trying to establish a state in Syria.
    USA supports YPG(PKK and PJAK) in Syria

    Third Stage
    - Turkey
    Turkish-PKK Conflict

    Fourth State
    -İran
    İran-PJAK Conflict

    Now let's talk a bit about Coward Chickens. Turks fought against a lot of country in WW1 and Independence war. Turks fought against a lot of Gallipoli and we won. İf you wanna sea real coward chickens, Look at Iraq Army. They losed a lof equipment and soldier against Daesh. Iraq soldiers are fleeing and They are leaving the equipment.

    And also Turkey doesn't support Daesh in Syria. Maybe Turkey supported Al-Nusra. But Daesh? I dont think so.
    Yes, Turkey didnt get permission from the Syrian government. Also USA, UK, France, Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark and Australia didnt get permission from the Syrian goverment and they bombed Deir ez-Zor Airport in Deir ez-Zor. A lot of SAA soldier died in this bombardment. I think Syrian government should shot down aircraft of these countries before Turkey. Because Turkish Air Force didnt bomd any SAA Base in Syria.

    And Also 2 or 3 day ago Turkish Air Force bombed some Daesh and YPG positions in Syria.

    Don't mind him.

    However it is easy, you can't pretend you're defending yourself from Kurds while you're dividing Syria.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  VladimirSahin on Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:34 pm

    Ukraine an independent country but a whole part of Ukraine didn't get a say in how this independent country got its government ousted. Don't compare what Turkey is doing to Syria, to what Russia did in Donbas. Turkey's government has been funding terrorism in Syria since the start of the war, the type of terrorists which behead you or kill you for supporting a legitimate government, or for not agreeing with Islam. Turkey's government has done no different than what the US and its allies have done to Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan. In Donbas you don't get your throat ripped open for being pro-Poroshenko or any religion. It's a defensive posture of a region where expansion is only sought in pro-Russian territories.

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    Post  KiloGolf on Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:06 am

    Airman wrote:And also Turkey doesn't support Daesh in Syria. Maybe Turkey supported Al-Nusra. But Daesh? I dont think so.

    ^^ post of month pwnd
    IS is (also) Turkey's creation, legacy and gift to the world. Thank you.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:21 am

    Airman wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:.

    ..........


    What a hateful message....


    I see you met Vann.

    Don't worry you'll get used to it... lol1

    But seriously, I will just assume that you are simply being very naive when you claim that Turkey has no ties with ISIL.

    Granted, they are backpedaling now and it is intelligent course of action but facts are facts. They played with fire and got burned big time.

    No point hiding skeletons once they are out of the closet.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  auslander on Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:23 am

    Airman wrote:

    Ukraine an independent country. I think everyone knows what is going on in Ukraine now. Ukrania is a independent country and Russia is invading it. Russia created puppet state in Ukrania. Name is Novorossiya and Russia annexed Crimea unilaterally.
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    Just to give you some additional information. Russia did not 'annex' Krimu and Sevastopol. After the victors of Maidan in Kiev said they would come to this peninsula and 'make the streets run red with blood' we, operative being 'we', armed up and blocked the peninsula and all the Uke bases. We then held a referendum, actually two separate referendums, one in Sevastopol and one in Krimea, and the result of both was independence from Ukraine. After the referendum it was decided to ask Russia for entry, in other words the populace wanted to go home to Russia.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #10

    Post  Airman on Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:40 am

    Just to give you some additional information. Russia did not 'annex' Krimu and Sevastopol. After the victors of Maidan in Kiev said they would come to this peninsula and 'make the streets run red with blood' we, operative being 'we', armed up and blocked the peninsula and all the Uke bases. We then held a referendum, actually two separate referendums, one in Sevastopol and one in Krimea, and the result of both was independence from Ukraine. After the referendum it was decided to ask Russia for entry, in other words the populace wanted to go home to Russia. Auslander wrote:

    I didnt said ''Russia is right about that'' or ''Russia isn't right about that''. I just gave an example.
    I dont really care what happened in Ukraine.

    @KiloGolf ISIL, ISIS or Daesh created in 1999 in Iraq.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jama%27at_al-Tawhid_wal-Jihad

    And I think everyone knows ''Who support or create ISIS'' after Deir ez-Zor air raid.

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