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    Re: Colour Revolutions in the Former Soviet Republics

    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:26 pm

    http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Zvezda-TV-channel-about-heroization-of-fascism-in-Armenia.html

    Seems Armenia has been actively pushing EU bullshit and glorification of Nazis. Wow. Screw Armenia. I say help Azerbaijan.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:15 pm

    There may be a silver lining.

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/988429454224625664?s=19
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    Post  TheArmenian on Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:16 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Zvezda-TV-channel-about-heroization-of-fascism-in-Armenia.html

    Seems Armenia has been actively pushing EU bullshit and glorification of Nazis. Wow. Screw Armenia. I say help Azerbaijan.

    Mike,
    When I said "bugger-off" , I really meant it.

    Have you looked at the date of the article you posted (November 2017)?
    The current leader (Sargsyan) is a fan of that controversial Armenian historical figure (Garegin Njdeh) who was anti-communist.
    Being anti-communist is not necessarily being Nazi/Fascist.

    There is no such thing as Nazi/fascism support stupidity in Armenia. This is no Ukraine or Baltics.

    There is no such thing as white or black in Armenian politics. Everything comes in shades of gray. The governments plays politics, the opposition plays politics, the oligarchs play politics, the Russians play their politics etc. etc. eventually, despite all the West's efforts, Armenia stays pro-Russia because there is no other way.

    Once again, this is not Ukraine or Baltics. Stop basing your opinions and conclusions on what happened in Ukraine or on some articles here and there.

    I am no going to spend my time writing pages to educate you on Armenian politics.
    What you wrote above is sheer stupidity based on your complete lack of knowledge about the situation/politics of Armenia.
    You really want Russia to help its centuries old enemy (Turkey = Azerbaijan) against it's centuries old and most loyal ally (Armenia)?....Pleeeeeeeeaze!

    So, once again: bugger off and don't post anything based on your ignorance.

    P.S. Sargsyan now has resigned. He shouldn't have gotten himself elected in the first place. Hopefully things will work out fine very quickly.

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    Post  par far on Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:36 pm

    What does this mean for Russia? What will Russia? What about the Russian military bases?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:51 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Zvezda-TV-channel-about-heroization-of-fascism-in-Armenia.html

    Seems Armenia has been actively pushing EU bullshit and glorification of Nazis. Wow. Screw Armenia. I say help Azerbaijan.

    Mike,
    When I said "bugger-off" , I really meant it.

    Have you looked at the date of the article you posted (November 2017)?
    The current leader (Sargsyan) is a fan of that controversial Armenian historical figure (Garegin Njdeh) who was anti-communist.
    Being anti-communist is not necessarily being Nazi/Fascist.

    There is no such thing as Nazi/fascism support stupidity in Armenia. This is no Ukraine or Baltics.

    There is no such thing as white or black in Armenian politics. Everything comes in shades of gray. The governments plays politics, the opposition plays politics, the oligarchs play politics, the Russians play their politics etc. etc. eventually, despite all the West's efforts, Armenia stays pro-Russia because there is no other way.

    Once again, this is not Ukraine or Baltics. Stop basing your opinions and conclusions on what happened in Ukraine or on some articles here and there.

    I am no going to spend my time writing pages to educate you on Armenian politics.
    What you wrote above is sheer stupidity based on your complete lack of knowledge about the situation/politics of Armenia.
    You really want Russia to help its centuries old enemy (Turkey = Azerbaijan) against it's centuries old and most loyal ally (Armenia)?....Pleeeeeeeeaze!

    So, once again: bugger off and don't post anything based on your ignorance.

    P.S. Sargsyan now has resigned. He shouldn't have gotten himself elected in the first place. Hopefully things will work out fine very quickly.

    The issue is simple, there's a whole generation of leadership in Armenia that is obsolete but holds the economy by its balls. People can't really turn on them so they get to the political system that isn't going to really change.

    Actually it is a lot like Ukraine, only in Armenia there's no useful idiots to employ nor a real change to make. Armenia for all purposes is a landlocked country surrounded by basically unsavory partners, which owns much of its salute to Russia. Geopolitically, the Armenians are really at odds with reality, but as we have seen, geopolitical realities often take a back seat when the people perceive their everyday problems to be abysmally hard to go through. I wish the best of luck to the people of Armenia and I hope their just recriminations do not get exploited by neither side.

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    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:21 am

    The more strenuously that opaque denials are issued, the more plausible it is that things can and will go south.
    Armenia is not a unique human society. Like all the other ones it can be led around by the nose by a minority.
    And the majority will be blind to it. You can see this in all of NATO, Ukraine, Belorus and yes in Russia as well.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:24 am

    I know you don't want us butting into your affairs Armenian, but tell me if this is true:
    https://twitter.com/denis_kolt/status/988515197626339329?s=19

    That they want full dissolution of the government so he gets in, right? And this guy is pro US and anti Russian, right?

    So if he gets in and the protestors (useless fucks) get their way, then would you blame Russia for turning it's back on the very people who bring in an anti Russian government into power with no votes?

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/armenia-drone-captures-protest-in-yerevan-as-sargsyan-resigns-from-office/

    This Serig guy sounds like a real pos. But the opposition sound worst.

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    Post  Project Canada on Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:33 am


    Another sad day for Russia, America wins again Rolling Eyes Russia is so slow in demolishing the USA now it is reaping the results of its carelessness.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:01 am

    know you don't want us butting into your affairs Armenian, but tell me if this is true: wrote:
    As you would expect, in this kind of situations all kinds of people emerge. Including stooges paid by their Western masters.

    Majority of Armenians are positive about Russia. Most of the protestors have family members working in Russia and sending back money home.
    They just hate Serj (to a degree, I agree with them). Serj is not popular among the population, he should have not gotten himself elected. If he had stayed away, none of these things would have happened.

    That they want full dissolution of the government so he gets in, right? And this guy is pro US and anti Russian, right? wrote:
    He is a demagogue, but in reality he is a nobody. I don't think he has a future. He can make demands all day. Population is anti-Serj, but not for a Ukraine-style geopolitical shift.

    So if he gets in and the protestors (useless fucks) get their way, then would you blame Russia for turning it's back on the very people who bring in an anti Russian government into power with no votes? wrote:
    Our first president (Levon Ter-Petrossian) was the most anti-Russian and pro-West one. Yet he asked for Russian bases in Armenia. Armenians are wise enough to know that straying away from Russia is nothing short of suicidal. The few clowns that say otherwise are just paid agents and stooges of the various Western NGOs that operate freely in Armenia (thanks to the complimentary politics of Serj).
    Any politician who tries to navigate the country away from Russia will immediately loose credibility amongst the population.
    oh, and by the way, I don't think Russia will turn its back.

    In short. I think we will have some rough road ahead but with time all will be fine. Over 3 millennia, us Armenians have survived wars, invasions and genocides. We will survive these times.
    In case I am wrong (and I don't think I am) and somehow pro-West agents take control of Armenia, then you can write-off Armenia as a nation forever. There is no way we can survive without Russia in the troubled Caucasus with Turkey, Azerbaijan, Iran, Kurds and Georgians as neighbors.
    Having said that, there is a pretty good chance that something good will come out of this mess.
    The next few days will be interesting.

    This Serig guy sounds like a real pos. But the opposition sound worst. wrote:
    Pretty much.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:36 pm

    Just reminding this.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1916/03/06/archives/russians-slaughter-turkish-third-army-give-no-quarter-to-men-held.html
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    Post  flamming_python on Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:27 pm

    Instead of worrying about Armenia you guys should be worrying about Belarus and Kazakhstan.

    The Belarussian FM was in London making business and investment deals while the Skripal incident was entering full diplomatic swing in mid-March. Lukashenko has recently being decreeing about the need to balance relations between the West and Russia.. a far cry from his earlier claims about Russian-Belarussian undivided brotherhood.

    Kazakhstan abstained during the Russian proposed resolution over the alleged chemical attack in Syrian Ghouta (only China and Bolivia voted for it). Today comes news that Kazakhstan has agreed on the use of its Aktau port and and another one, for the use of the US military in transiting cargoes into Afghanistan. We may now see US military chartered supply ships in the Caspian and US personnel in Kazakhstani Caspian ports.

    Russia will quite possibly be left with less and less allies in the near future as these various tin-point ex-Soviet dictators run scared of the increasing sanctions that the West is putting on Russia and hedge their bets... but for sure Armenia won't be one of those lost allies.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:21 pm

    Agreed. Russia really needs to put pressure on Kazakhstan and Belarus. If they don't budge, start withdrawing investments from them and start hurting them economically. And make it clear that their ass sitting on two seats will cause them to fall.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:24 pm

    Uh oh, hey Armenian, it doesn't look like your fellow countrymen are as smart as you:
    https://amp.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3010834&3010834&3010834=&__twitter_impression=true

    Essentially, Armenian Navalny is calling the shots over these protests and states they won't stop protesting till the PM elections happen, and that his demand is that only a politician from the Velvet Revolution should only be participants in said election.


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    Post  kvs on Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:30 am

    flamming_python wrote:Instead of worrying about Armenia you guys should be worrying about Belarus and Kazakhstan.

    The Belarussian FM was in London making business and investment deals while the Skripal incident was entering full diplomatic swing in mid-March. Lukashenko has recently being decreeing about the need to balance relations between the West and Russia.. a far cry from his earlier claims about Russian-Belarussian undivided brotherhood.

    Kazakhstan abstained during the Russian proposed resolution over the alleged chemical attack in Syrian Ghouta (only China and Bolivia voted for it). Today comes news that Kazakhstan has agreed on the use of its Aktau port and and another one, for the use of the US military in transiting cargoes into Afghanistan. We may now see US military chartered supply ships in the Caspian and US personnel in Kazakhstani Caspian ports.

    Russia will quite possibly be left with less and less allies in the near future as these various tin-point ex-Soviet dictators run scared of the increasing sanctions that the West is putting on Russia and hedge their bets... but for sure Armenia won't be one of those lost allies.

    This is what real corruption delivers: US subservience. All these clowns have money in western banks and Uncle Scumbag has them
    by their short and curlies. Idiots that call Putin corrupt should bugger on off to their promised lands.
    The Lukashenko regime needs to be purged since it is a soft species of North Korea. Kazakhstan is a corrupt nepotistic oligarchy.
    Looks like only Russia recovered from the the collapse of the USSR. All of these precious brotherly republics are failures. And not
    just that, they keep getting worse and worse like Ukraine.

    Unlike Ukraine, Belorus is a worthy target of Russian regime change operations. It should be fully re-assimilated into Russia. The
    trouble making Polish and other minorities can pack their bags if they don't like it.
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    Post  kvs on Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:32 am

    miketheterrible wrote:

    Idiot is as idiot does.

    Yeah, we know nothing.

    Whatever. Russia's best friends are its armed forces and its military hardware. Instead of wasting blood and treasure
    on various dreamers of the US mythical good life, Russia needs to be building more ICBMs and RBMs.
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    Post  kvs on Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:56 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-24/mushrooming-nicaragua-teeters-brink-revolution-us-pulls-diplomats

    The US is staging a colour revolution in Nicaragua.

    I hate all these credulous f*cks and their "concerns" about "corruption". They are retards who do not think for themselves.
    Wait until the Contras take over and your asses will be shredded with real corruption a*ssrape. I bet you will all be quiet
    when that day arrives. You are all fakes.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:07 pm

    http://vestnikkavkaza.net/material/112114

    This just gets better and better.

    TheArmenian - so why do you guys bother with elections if only one (the loser) can protest till he gets into power? As well, how come they haven't actually kept him in jail?

    Anyway, looks like Ukraine 2.0 is heavy in the works. Guess the Armenian authorities should have been proactive in removing US and EU NGO's.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:10 pm

    Seen this making rounds

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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:14 pm

    http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Armenian-opposition-leader-calls-new-rally.html

    This Navalny of Armenia is wanting to be PM rather badly, to the point of destroying democracy in Armenia.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:57 pm

    This article actually makes comment about Flaming Python point with Kazakhstan

    https://eurasianet.org/s/us-military-giving-up-on-kyrgyzstan

    It's how US views Kazakhstan it's best friend more or less in that part of the world. Funny.

    https://eurasianet.org/s/kazakhstan-gets-russian-flak-over-un-syria-vote

    Apparently Russia lobbied for Kazakhstan to be in security council non permanent partner and now there is indignation regarding Kazakhstan position. Some even mention about how a maiden will end up happening in Kazakhstan.

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    Post  par far on Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:08 pm

    I really wish would become more involved in these countries to prevent these colour revolutions.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:12 pm

    par far wrote:I really wish would become more involved in these countries to prevent these colour revolutions.

    Not just color revolution but even betrayment from so called allies like Bealrus and Kazakhstan.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:28 pm

    https://ria.ru/world/20180425/1519397608.html
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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:29 pm

    Kazakhstan may as well be classified as an enemy of Russia at this point.

    http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2018/01/17/us-creates-afghan-transit-route-with-counter-narrative-in-central-asia/

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