Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)

miketheterrible wrote:Russia will effectively make the defense industries tied directly to civilian market, and vice versa.  Already we are seeing so many results of this.  This is something that was done in the US and in Germany for decades before and it proved to work great as the defense companies always had funds to continue to do R&D in new technology as well as incorporate civil tech into military, and vice versa.  Now, from what I have read, the Universities in Russia are ingrained in the defense and private sector in R&D and that is were majority of the university budgets come from.

Essentially - Russia is doing what the west has done during the cold war.  I guess playing by their own games.

You're naive to think that nothing of the sort was done in the USSR either. Of course it was. Huge amounts of science and research, development in various fields - were related to military-industrial needs one way or the other.

What there wasn't was a capitalist system. Military-industrial enterprises were always assured orders, and they didn't have the incentive to bring out highly-innovative products for the civilian market - as they very much have to do now.

And yet they were as innovative as anyone...

The layout of the MiG-25 was revolutionary and has been widely copied.

The BMP concept of an infantry fighting vehicle has been copied.

I would say the idea of the assault rifle was another example but it was a Russian invention before the Soviet Union existed in the Federov Avtomat of 1916.

Rocket propelled torpedoes, helmet mounted sights with high off boresight AAMs, thrust vector engines for aircraft, automatic grenade launchers for infantry to replace light mortars... the list goes on.

Russia creates substitutes for Ukrainian naval, aircraft power plants — government

MOSCOW, May 24. /TASS/. Russia has coped with the task of import substitution in the field of aircraft and naval engine engineering, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said on Thursday.

"I can say that there is no dependence on Ukrainian products any more. The situation with western supplies is changing cardinally. We’ve coped with the problem of replacing the aircraft and ship engines," he said in a lecture before an audience of students at the Academy of the General Staff.

Borisov believes that import substitution efforts must proceed.

"There is no time for complacency. Regrettably, we still experience dependence on electronics components, in particular, special ones," Borisov said.

Earlier, Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov said that by 2018-2019 Russia would be able to produce substitutes for components it had earlier received from Ukraine.

Ukraine-Russia cooperation in the military sphere was frozen in 2014. Since the Soviet era some components for military technologies had been provided by manufacturers in Ukraine. The disruption of ties jeopardized a number of Russian defense-industrial complex programs. Ukraine’s refusal to provide gas turbine power plants paused the construction of several ships for the Russian navy.

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http://tass.com/defense/1006106