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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:12 pm

    Possibly some progress?

    Bit too low quality to really tell but something is going on around the missile tubes & they may have removed the scaffolding around superstructure.

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Ned86 on Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:31 am

    Marshal Ustinov almost ready.

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:44 pm

    Looks good!! russia

    Varyag and Moskva next, and cannot wait to see the uber-Nahkimov when she emerges from her rebuild.... russia
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:11 pm

    What is the orangey stuff on the missile tubes?
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Benya on Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:23 pm

    hoom wrote:What is the orangey stuff on the missile tubes?

    Maybe those are support frames that are used when the missile tubes were placed there by crane.

    Az first glance they looked like ladders to me Smile
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:46 am

    Has lost the 'ladders'


    According to http://zvezdochka-ru.livejournal.com/381749.html they are about 1/2 way through mooring trials, expected to go to sea trials by the end of the year.
    Has had problems with sub-contractors not being up to the task apparently
    Yandex translate wrote:The main problematic issues VTG "Marshal Ustinov" are setting up the system of control of main engines, repairs of refrigeration equipment and commissioning works on control system power system of the ship.
    The delay in completion of set tasks linked to a number of factors.
    "Asterisk", specializing in the repair and modernization of submarines, for the first time faced with such a volume of new work on surface ships of cruiser class.
    Poorly prepared for this appeared and contractor organizations. Today business partners has the main task to eliminate delays in the repair of the cruiser, about what exactly was said in the text of the Protocol of the meeting.
    The limiting factors were the late delivery of the documentation management system main engines from design organizations, its incompleteness, long-term commissioning work and the identification of emerging faults, the novelty of this automation system.
    Also for the first time aginskoj the shipyard had to do repairs of refrigeration equipment.
    Besides the fact that they have a thirty-year period of operation, the manufacturer sank into oblivion.
    Analogues in Russia such machines as well as specialists in their maintenance and repair.
    The company "VNIIKHOLODMASH" ( Moscow), who undertook their restoration, showed their complete incapacity and incompetence in the repair and adjustment of equipment.
    The delay in final commissioning of the machines in operation does not give in full and with appropriate quality to carry out mooring trials of such major systems such as weapons systems, communications, radio AIDS.
    The lack of experience and experts from the co-executor of work hinders this process.
    However, until the end of the month work on refrigeration vehicles must be completed.
    A similar situation exists for control system of gas turbogenerators due to low qualification of specialists of the counterparty involved in the repair and commissioning of the system.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:15 am

    That image is an earlier one than the one showing ladders - you can see scaffolding on the starboard side of the fwd superstructure and funnel.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:24 am

    Could be.

    There is also a letter out there I think something to do with no longer available Ukraine stuff? http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2131185.html (image of Russian text so can't Google/Yandex translate)
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:38 pm

    Some new photos of the Ukrayina from Southfront:





    This is why the Ukrops cannot have nice things...

    Full article on Southfront here.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  AlfaT8 on Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:06 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Some new photos of the Ukrayina from Southfront:





    This is why the Ukrops cannot have nice things...  

    Full article on Southfront here.

    And i thought the Russian navy was in bad shape, this thing looks downright haunted, just in time for Halloween.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:48 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Some new photos of the Ukrayina from Southfront:
    ...
    This is why the Ukrops cannot have nice things...  

    Full article on Southfront here.

    And i thought the Russian navy was in bad shape, this thing looks downright haunted, just in time for Halloween.

    You can't compare the Russian Navy to Maidan's one-frigate flotilla.
    Pity these guys get to keep Nikolaev shipyard and related facilities.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:50 pm

    I'd always assumed it wasn't finished due to being far from complete, not much more than an empty hull but it looks like it was actually pretty close to finished & I can understand why Russia was looking at buying it to complete for a while, a shame.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:28 am

    This ship sums up the Ukraine itself quite aptly.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  zg18 on Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:09 pm

    Northern fleet`s "Marshal Ustinov", first modernized of the class, is starting 30-day sea trials in the White Sea.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  zg18 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:05 pm

    zg18 wrote:Northern fleet`s "Marshal Ustinov", first modernized of the class, is starting 30-day sea trials in the White Sea.


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:20 pm

    zg18 wrote:
    zg18 wrote:Northern fleet`s "Marshal Ustinov", first modernized of the class, is starting 30-day sea trials in the White Sea.



    Geez about time.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Isos on Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:36 pm

    What was upgraded ? Is it a new radar on it ?
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  franco on Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:07 pm

    MOSCOW, October 30 -. RIA Novosti missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov" Project 1164 "Atlas" put to sea after the repair to perform sea trials, said on Sunday the press-service of JSC

    "Shipbuilders JSC" Center of repair "Zvezdochka" completed the repair and modernization of the missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov" Project 1164 "Atlas". On Sunday, October 30 cruiser went to sea for the program factory sea trials ", - said in a statement.

    on modernization and restoration work began in ship repair Center "Zvezdochka" in 2011. During this time the program is executed dock work, repair of gas turbine generators and main engines with associated systems, general ship systems. Modernization work, in turn, affected the main complexes of electronic armament of the cruiser. During the tests, the experts of "Asterisk" with the crew of the cruiser will check all systems and mechanisms of the ship in sea conditions.

    Go to the place of permanent basing missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov" is planned for the IV quarter of 2016, says the company.

    NOTE: Basically body work and engine job for a mid-life extension along with an electronic upgrade.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  zg18 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:49 pm

    Isos wrote:What was upgraded ? Is it a new radar on it ?

    MR-600 radar replaced by MR-650, MGK-335 sonar replaced by «Zarya-SK», MR-710 radar replaced by «Fregat-M2»

    https://twitter.com/chillcommand/status/790919668559208448
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:47 pm

    What was upgraded ? Is it a new radar on it ?
    This was going into repair (via Balancer forum)

    Main external difference is the Boletus http://smp-salyut.ru/?p=272 & Fregat http://smp-salyut.ru/?p=311 radars. (links in Russian)
    There is new EW gear too.
    Big question if they upgraded the S-300/how much &/or if they put Calibr launchers in the Granit tubes. Apparently not though which I think is a huge lost opportunity No could have been a 48* Calibr/Onyx salvo.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  George1 on Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:23 am

    hoom wrote:
    Big question if they upgraded the S-300/how much &/or if they put Calibr launchers in the Granit tubes. Apparently not though which I think is a huge lost opportunity No could have been a 48* Calibr/Onyx salvo.

    no way.. i think upgrade was in electronics and main engines control systems only


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:30 am

    Well, if they are replacing the Granit launchers in Oscar class SSGNs with three tubes of Onyx or Kalibr, then replacing the Vulkan launchers with Onyx/Kalibr tubes should not have been impossible... though Vulkan is angled heavily... much more so than Granit.


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Isos on Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:52 am

    GarryB wrote:Well, if they are replacing the Granit launchers in Oscar class SSGNs with three tubes of Onyx or Kalibr, then replacing the Vulkan launchers with Onyx/Kalibr tubes should not have been impossible... though Vulkan is angled heavily... much more so than Granit.

    It's not a problem for Onix, Russian modified Nanushka class and some Indian destroyer use them this way. But I don't think it's the case for Kalibr. Maybe the submarine lunch version could as it can be lunched by torpedo tubes but surface version are design to be lunch by VLS.
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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:59 am

    They did have a test rack for the Nanuchka boats, but we really don't know the results as to how that actually performed in those tests.

    An angled launch should not be that much of an issue...


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:07 pm

    Some footage, includes some of the going into refit & leaving the dock at the end.

    They seem to say 'Caliber' quite a bit in it?
    Whats with the below waterline circle thing they are welding/grinding?

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