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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:46 am

    Navy Commander: it is necessary to complete the repair of the RK "Marshal Ustinov" in 2015


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:57 am

    Russia's Northern Fleet cruiser to get new missile system

    The Marshal Ustinov cruiser is undergoing modernization at the Zvyozdochka defense shipyard in Severodvinsk


    ARKHANGELSK, September 29. /TASS/. The Russian Northern Fleet’s cruiser Marshal Ustinov, which is undergoing repairs and modernization at the Zvyozdochka defense shipyard in Severodvinsk, northwest Russia, will be armed with a new missile system and will be back in service again in 2016, the enterprise’s general director Nikolay Kalistratov said Tuesday.

    "It has been decided to equip the vessel with a new [missile] system. The ship will be handed to Russia’s navy, as envisioned by the contract, in 2016," Kalistratov said.

    The Marshal Ustinov arrived at Zvyozdochka in June 2011 for scheduled repairs. In November 2012 it was lifted from water and mounted at a staple base. Work to repair the drainage, dewatering, fire safety and other systems of the vessel were held in the dock.

    In June 2013, the cruiser was floated and modernization work continued afloat. Earlier it was reported that the cruiser will be handed to the navy after upgrade in 2015.

    The Marshal Ustinov missile cruiser was laid down at the Nikolayev shipyard in 1978. It was made part of the Northern Fleet in 1986. In 1994-1997 it underwent upgrade at St. Petersburg’s Severnaya Verf shipyard.

    The Marshal Ustinov is a missile cruiser of Project 1164 Atlant. It has a displacement of 11,380 tons, is 186 meters long and 20.8 meters wide. It can travel at a speed up to 34 knots (some 63 kmph) to distances of about 8,000 miles, and has a crew of 510 people.

    It main armament is 16 launching facilities of P-500 Bazalt supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Russia’s Navy has three such missile cruisers: the Moskva in the Black Sea Fleet, the Varyag in the Pacific Fleet and the Marshal Ustinov in the Northern Fleet.


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:58 am

    So what will be the new missile system?? P-1000 instead of P-500 maybe??


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  chicken on Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:05 pm

    George1 wrote:So what will be the new missile system?? P-1000 instead of P-500 maybe??

    Oniks? They have diagonal launchers, right?

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:53 pm

    chicken wrote:
    George1 wrote:So what will be the new missile system?? P-1000 instead of P-500 maybe??

    Oniks? They have diagonal launchers, right?

    Οniks is undoubtedly more modern missile but i think it has less range


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  artjomh on Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:16 pm

    I believe P-1000 was already installed in 1997. It's a bit unclear what exactly was changed. Some say only the missiles on Moskva and Marshal Ustinov were changed, while the launchers stayed the same, so there are some limitations. Varyag has native P-1000 infrastructure, with new launchers.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the "new missile complex" actually just means changing 5V55RM into 48N6E2 (it's non-foreign version that is). Same as they are switching from 48N6 to 48N6E2 on Admiral Nakhimov.

    People get overexcited when they hear "new". Don't.

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Stealthflanker on Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:00 pm

    artjomh wrote:

    I wouldn't be surprised if the "new missile complex" actually just means changing 5V55RM into 48N6E2 (it's non-foreign version that is). Same as they are switching from 48N6 to 48N6E2 on Admiral Nakhimov.

    If that's the case.. i would expect to see 30N6 in place of the 3R41.


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  artjomh on Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:24 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    artjomh wrote:

    I wouldn't be surprised if the "new missile complex" actually just means changing 5V55RM into 48N6E2 (it's non-foreign version that is). Same as they are switching from 48N6 to 48N6E2 on Admiral Nakhimov.

    If that's the case.. i would expect to see 30N6 in place of the 3R41.


    Not necessarily.

    Pyotr Veliky has no problem guiding S-300FM with Volna. Unless they only use the Flap Lid in the front for Fort-M.

    There is also Fregat and Podberyozovok on Ustinov.

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:57 pm

    Nearing at the end of the renovation and modernization of the missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov"



    11 October 2015, being on the final stage of the average repair and modernization of the missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov" 1164 Project of the Northern Fleet. The ship is under repair and modernization at the head office of JSC "Center for ship repair" Star " from July 2011. Visible installed during the modernization, the new radar system.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1524258.html


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Book. on Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:51 pm

    ГРКР «Москва» прибыл к побережью Латакии для противовоздушной обороны района
    RuNaval the Moska class missle cruiser. Duty the Lataka Syria [HD]
    Published on Nov 26, 2015 [11.27.2015 02:52:55

    Guards missile cruiser Moskva arrived to the shore zone of Latakia for air defence of the region



    Moska class ready the duty thumbsup

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  George1 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:31 pm

    "Marshal Ustinov" missile cruiser, in repair from 2011, started mooring trials


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:12 pm

    Russian Missile Cruiser Varyag to Be Modernized Until 2020

    According to a source in the Russian defense industry, the flagship of the Russian Pacific Fleet, Guards’ missile cruiser Varyag, will undergo a modernization until 2020.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The flagship of the Russian Pacific Fleet, Guards’ missile cruiser Varyag, will undergo a modernization until 2020, a source in the Russian defense industry said Friday.

    "An overhaul and modernization of the Pacific Fleet's Guards missile cruiser Varyag will be carried out in the period until 2020," the source told RIA Novosti.

    He added that the modernization implies equipping of the cruiser with new radioelectronic weapons, and upgrading of the propulsion system.

    The Varyag is a Slava-class guided missile cruiser commissioned in 1989.

    It was designed as surface strike ship with anti-air and anti-submarine warfare capability, and has a primary armament of sixteen P-1000 Vulkan nuclear-capable supersonic cruise missiles.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160205/1034274494/russian-missile-cruiser-modernized.html#ixzz3zI6NwYQ0


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:23 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:


    max steel wrote:Russian Missile Cruiser Varyag to Be Modernized by 2020

    He added that the modernization implies equipping of the cruiser with new radioelectronic weapons, and upgrading of the propulsion system.
    The Varyag is a Slava-class guided missile cruiser commissioned in 1989.
    It was designed as surface strike ship with anti-air and anti-submarine warfare capability, and has a primary armament of sixteen P-1000 Vulkan nuclear-capable supersonic cruise missiles.


    I hope that also V-1000 will be replaced modernized Onyxes or Zircons. And OSA by Pantsir/or Tor

    there will not be armaments modernization, only electronics and propulsion system upgrade



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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:01 am

    Not much apparent progress since Oct.

    Edit: from Balancers' forum


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:04 am

    hoom wrote:Not much apparent progress since Oct.
    I suspect that the heavy construction is complete and the workfronts have shifted to internal fitout & testing of electrical/electronic equipment, cabling and integration engineering (eg software and systems interfaces). In my experience this is where most delays are incurred with marine upgrades.

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:15 pm


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:12 pm

    Possibly some progress?

    Bit too low quality to really tell but something is going on around the missile tubes & they may have removed the scaffolding around superstructure.

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Ned86 on Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:31 am

    Marshal Ustinov almost ready.


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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:44 pm

    Looks good!! russia

    Varyag and Moskva next, and cannot wait to see the uber-Nahkimov when she emerges from her rebuild.... russia

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:11 pm

    What is the orangey stuff on the missile tubes?

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Benya on Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:23 pm

    hoom wrote:What is the orangey stuff on the missile tubes?

    Maybe those are support frames that are used when the missile tubes were placed there by crane.

    Az first glance they looked like ladders to me Smile

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:46 am

    Has lost the 'ladders'


    According to http://zvezdochka-ru.livejournal.com/381749.html they are about 1/2 way through mooring trials, expected to go to sea trials by the end of the year.
    Has had problems with sub-contractors not being up to the task apparently
    Yandex translate wrote:The main problematic issues VTG "Marshal Ustinov" are setting up the system of control of main engines, repairs of refrigeration equipment and commissioning works on control system power system of the ship.
    The delay in completion of set tasks linked to a number of factors.
    "Asterisk", specializing in the repair and modernization of submarines, for the first time faced with such a volume of new work on surface ships of cruiser class.
    Poorly prepared for this appeared and contractor organizations. Today business partners has the main task to eliminate delays in the repair of the cruiser, about what exactly was said in the text of the Protocol of the meeting.
    The limiting factors were the late delivery of the documentation management system main engines from design organizations, its incompleteness, long-term commissioning work and the identification of emerging faults, the novelty of this automation system.
    Also for the first time aginskoj the shipyard had to do repairs of refrigeration equipment.
    Besides the fact that they have a thirty-year period of operation, the manufacturer sank into oblivion.
    Analogues in Russia such machines as well as specialists in their maintenance and repair.
    The company "VNIIKHOLODMASH" ( Moscow), who undertook their restoration, showed their complete incapacity and incompetence in the repair and adjustment of equipment.
    The delay in final commissioning of the machines in operation does not give in full and with appropriate quality to carry out mooring trials of such major systems such as weapons systems, communications, radio AIDS.
    The lack of experience and experts from the co-executor of work hinders this process.
    However, until the end of the month work on refrigeration vehicles must be completed.
    A similar situation exists for control system of gas turbogenerators due to low qualification of specialists of the counterparty involved in the repair and commissioning of the system.

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:15 am

    That image is an earlier one than the one showing ladders - you can see scaffolding on the starboard side of the fwd superstructure and funnel.

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

    Post  hoom on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:24 am

    Could be.

    There is also a letter out there I think something to do with no longer available Ukraine stuff? http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2131185.html (image of Russian text so can't Google/Yandex translate)

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    Re: Project 1164 Atlant: Slava Class cruiser

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