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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  Mike E on Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:21 am

    It is nice to know that I'm not the only one that cruises Airliners. - That picture was a good find.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:39 am

    Russia Developing New Interceptor, and Progressing Bomber

    Russia will fly the prototype next-generation strategic bomber in 2019 and develop a new interceptor by 2020 to replace the MiG-31 fleet. Addressing the media on Russian Air Force Day (August 12) the service’s commander Gen. Victor Bondarev also said a new a combat aircraft with forward-swept wings is in development and could emerge soon as a prototype.

    Production of the PAKDA strategic bomber will start in 2021-22, with flight tests completing in 2023 so that entry-into-service can take place later that year, according to Bondarev. The commander confirmed that the new bomber is subsonic. It will eventually replace the Tu-95 and the Tu-160.

    In a recent interaction with the media, head of Russia’s United Engine Corporation (ODK) Vladislav Mosolov was quoted as saying that the PAKDA’s engine will be developed on the base of the Tu-160’s NK-32 “second edition” motor and use its gas-generator (core). ODK intends to invest $220 million of its own money into the project in addition to the approved governmental funding.

    The new interceptor is sometimes referred to as the MiG-41. Bondarev said it forms part of the current Russian armament program ending in 2020. Plans call for replacement of the entire MiG-31 fleet by 2028.

    Meanwhile, operational examples of the Sukhoi fifth-generation fighter PAKFA (manufacturer’s designation T-50) will be delivered to the Russian air force in 2016. Today, one industry-owned T-50 already flies with military pilots at the controls in the flight-test and armament trials center (Russian acronym GLITS) at Akhtubinsk airbase in southern Russia.

    Bondarev confirmed that earlier this year the Russian MoD placed an order worth more than $470 million for 16 MiG-29SMT multirole lightweight fighters. Delivery is due within “two-three years.” These will supplement 28 such aircraft already in service. Bondarev further stated that the contract for the MiG-35 will be signed later this year. The Russian air force will continue upgrade efforts on the MiG-29 fleet so as to keep them in service for “another 10 to 15 years, maybe more.”

    The commander also revealed that earlier plans for a light strike aircraft based on the Yak-130 jet trainer platform have been dropped.

    Bondarev expects deliveries of Il-76MD-90A strategic airlifters to commence later this year, with 39 contracted for delivery by 2020. The air force also wants to receive some Il-96 airliners, from the order for 14 placed recently by the Russian government, for delivery by 2024. The military applications would include air tanker, as well as transport roles, according to Bondarev.

    The Russian air force continues to build up its presence in the Arctic region. Temp and Rogachevo aerodromes have been re-opened, and work is in progress in Tiksi, Anadyr and Vorkuta. “We must withhold that region. Almost 49 percent of the Arctic territory must belong to Russia, and we shall defend it,” Bondarev said. Plans call for complete radar coverage of Russia’s northern regions.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:20 am

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    Post  AbsoluteZero on Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:48 pm

    http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/745299

    Resumption of Antonov-124 jumbo jet project with Ukraine grounded - trade ministry



    ULYANOVSK, August 16 /ITAR-TASS/. Plans for resuming the production and upgrade of the Antonov-124 jumbo jet Ruslan, which Russian and Ukrainian aircraft builders have mulled for the past few years have been grounded indefinitely, if not forever, a senior Russian government official has said.

    “I am very sorry... The project for resuming the production and upgrade of the unique plane Ruslan is off the agenda. That’s too bad. The niches that the Ukrainians and we might have taken... Designers there and producers here... Such chances and opportunities are very few to go around. In the world technological race such competences are in great demand. Any engineering company can merely dream of having them.”

    I thought they have a plant in Ulyanovsk that builds An-124s? can't they build these planes by their own? and maybe develop an alternative engine to the D-18T? Or is Russia working on its own heavy transport plane?
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:18 am

    I think as part of the production agreement certain critical components were made in the Ukraine so that Antonov could keep some control and generate income.

    It wouldn't make sense to develop such capabilities in Russia as they will likely not make more than a hundred planes... over a very long period.

    Time to plan for the next gen heavy lifter for Russia...


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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:07 am

    Next-generation military-transport aircraft may have a lifting fuselage
    Russian Aviaton » Tuesday August 19, 2014 02:00 MSK

    The next-generation military-transport aircraft (PAK TA) may have a lifting fuselage, ITAR-TASS reports with reference to the CEO of Ilyushin Company, Yuri Yudin.

    In spring 2014 it was reported that Russian defense industry started development of the next-generation military-transport aircraft.

    "We are considering different designs and aerodynamic configurations in order to develop a brand-new next-generation aircraft. At present the configurations, both traditional and new ones, are being analyzed in the network of scientific research work", - Yudin said.

    According to him, Ilyushin Company together with the specialists of Myasishchev design bureau is developing a configuration featuring a lifting fuselage – in this configuration the airframe itself generates lift.

    "It is hard to say what configuration will be chosen by our designers and scientists. It will be discussed in 2016. I suppose that the preparation for signing this contract with Russian Ministry of Defense will be started in 2016-2017", - Yudin added.

    Nevertheless, he noted that this work is a preliminary one and designers of Ilyushin are going to “step forward” in the network of this project.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  mack8 on Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:50 pm

    Oh boy look at this VVS pr0n, cockpit pics and new (to me) Su-30SM borts, brand new Su-35S back in that superb blue cammo, brand new Su-30M2!
    http://postimg.org/gallery/2s00n3mta/
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    Post  Werewolf on Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:43 pm

    I've never seen those rails on the back of the after section on the armor of the engines.
    What do they carry?



    Maybe self defense suite pods?
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:38 am

    It wouldn't make sense to develop such capabilities in Russia as they will likely not make more than a hundred planes... over a very long period.

    Actually what I mean is that it wouldn't make sense to spend money now to create the capability now to build An-124s in Russia.

    it would make rather more sense to look to the future and design a new from scratch replacement that could possibly be scalable so that the same basic design could be used from small through to large transports. There has been talk of a lifting body transport design and this technology with perhaps new generation engines like those being developed for the PAK DA could lead to perhaps a range of transports with two to four engines from small light transports to replace the An-2 right up to giants to replace the An-124.

    The new PD-14 engine looks very promising and could be used on mid weight aircraft and the new engines being developed from the NK-25 cores could be used for heavy weight aircraft (two enginess), and Super heavy weight aircraft (four engines in the AN-225 class).

    With a lifting body and perhaps the ability to piggy back very large loads it could serve the Russian space industry allowing large components to be transported in one piece.

    The NK-32 entered service in the 1980s so there is probably quite a few things they can do to greatly increase performance... and putting an enormous fan on the front like a civilian jet engine it will lose supersonic performance but gain enormous subsonic thrust.

    If you take the engines off a Boeing 747 and ut them on a small light fighter you will get a subsonic aircraft because although the big engines on 747s generate a huge amount of thrust it is volume thrust rather than speed thrust... ie the big fan on the front is moving far more air through the engine than a smaller less powerful turbojet engine like an RD-33. It creates the same problems as propellers in that once the blades start trying to go supersonic they lose all thrust and create noise and drag so unless a 747 is falling it will never go supersonic on engine power alone.

    this means even putting a 20,000kg thrust engine in a small light fighter the thrust to weight ratio will not result in a high speed aircraft.

    In comparison the 15 ton thrust engines in the big heavy MiG-31 take it well beyond Mach 2 because the exhaust gas is highly supersonic... and very hot and energetic.

    The thrust from a 60 ton thrust variation on the NK-32 is subsonic and even four would not make a MiG-31 supersonic let alone hypersonic despite the much higher thrust.

    Of course they have decided that the PAK DA will be subsonic so a very powerful engine means they will likely only need between 2 and 4 engines for reasonable performance and also these engines can be used for large cargo planes as well as long range patrol aircraft and civilian airliners in ones, twos, threes and perhaps even fours for very large aircraft.


    I've never seen those rails on the back of the after section on the armor of the engines.
    What do they carry?

    What aircraft/photos are you referring to?

    If you mean on the Su-25, they are for standard chaff and flare launchers... like the ones fitted to Hinds and Hips and the wingtips of Havocs and Hokums.


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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  medo on Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:38 pm

    mack8 wrote:Oh boy look at this VVS pr0n, cockpit pics and new (to me) Su-30SM borts, brand new Su-35S back in that superb blue cammo, brand new Su-30M2!
    http://postimg.org/gallery/2s00n3mta/

    Excellent pictures. Su-30SM cockpit looks great.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:42 am

    Sukhoi Holding Company may cannibalize Su-30K fighters previously operated by India
    Russian Aviaton » Wednesday August 27, 2014 02:52 MSK

    Sukhoi Holding Company (Russia) will cannibalize Su-30K fighters previously operated by India if it fails to find a buyer for the vehicles, Lenta.ru reports.

    According to a source close to the military-technical cooperation system, Rosoboronexport has not found a buyer for six jets of the type yet. The fighters are stationed in the territory of aircraft repair plant No. 558 located in Baranovichi (Belarus).

    At present 18 Su-30K are stationed in Belarus. Last November a representative of Rosoboronexport, Mikhail Zavaliy, said that the state company has managed to find a buyer for a number of these jets. It was reported in January 2014 that Russia agreed to deliver 12 fighters of the type to Angola and provide the country with a $1 billion export credit.

    It is expected that the first batch of the fighters will be delivered to the customer in 2015; despite the fact that delivery of the first three jets was scheduled for September 2014 (three more fighters should have been delivered to Angola in November 2014 and the rest vehicles – in 2015). No country is interested in purchasing the rest six jets. Rosoboronexport declined to comment on the future of the remaining Su-30K fighters.

    Su-30K jets were delivered to India under a contract signed in 1996. Under this agreement Russia should have delivered Su-30MKI fighters to Indian air forces, however, it was decided in 1997-1999 to deliver 18 Su-30K fighters to the customer (simplified configuration). Such agreement was reached because Russia was unable to deliver Su-30MKI fighters on time.

    Later Russia delivered 18 Su-30MKI jets to India. At the same time Su-30K aircraft were returned to Russia on paper only. The jets were stationed in India until July 2011 and then the vehicles were delivered to aircraft repair plant No. 558 located in Baranovichi (Belarus) in order to be overhauled. Belarusian Ministry of Defense expressed interest in purchasing the jets earlier.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  Mike E on Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:50 am

    Why doesn't Russia just upspec them to their standards? The MK is very capable as it is, and upgrading them shouldn't be too hard. That or they could try and interest some South American countries...
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:55 am

    The aircraft in question have been used a bit and were not very high spec... they were the simple cheap models they could use while the aircraft they ordered were up to spec.

    These aircraft were pretty much Su-30K and not Su-30MK... so pretty much Su-27UBs really.

    Also I believe most of the systems were converted to English and imperial for Indian use... the cost of reconverting them and putting more capable bits in them... well you wont get those flight hours back without a full overhaul... it is just cheaper to find another client for them... or cannibalise them for parts.

    Perhaps Argentina might like them as gifts with a follow on order for Su-30MKs...


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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  Austin on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:23 am

    Russia's new air force is a myster
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    Post  medo on Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:26 pm

    Austin wrote:Russia's new air force is a myster

    I think this was answered many times. Su-30M2 will be used for training duties, Su-35 will be together with PAK FA air defense fighter and Su-30SM will be multirole fighter with mostly air defense duties and naval multirole fighter. Su-34 is clear fighter-bomber.
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:40 pm

    medo wrote:
    Austin wrote:Russia's new air force is a myster

    I think this was answered many times. Su-30M2 will be used for training duties, Su-35 will be together with PAK FA air defense fighter and Su-30SM will be multirole fighter with mostly air defense duties and naval multirole fighter. Su-34 is clear fighter-bomber.
    And the the Mig-35 will be.........
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    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:07 pm

    PAK-FA will also be a multirole fighter, and the same MiG-35 i guess as a shorter range multirole aircraft than the su-30sm

    The only clear role fighters are su-35 as air defence and su-34 as a tactical bomber
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    Post  medo on Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:38 pm

    I doubt PAK-FA will be used as multirole fighter, but most probably as VKO air defense fighter to defend Russian air space. I think Su-35 will more serve in Far East, because of larger area to defend, while PAK-FA will be to all parts equally. MiG-35 will be more used in European part as MiG-29 do, because it is smaller area and shorter distances. In my opinion Su-30SM will also mostly serve in Sibiria and Far East. No doubt MiG-31BM have its own territory, Arctic region.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:15 pm

    MiG-31 = Long range Interceptor for VKKO.

    PAK FA and Su-35 = Long range Air superiority fighters/tactical interceptors

    MiG-35 = medium range air superiority fighter/tactical interceptors.

    Su-30 = multirole operational trainer for Su-35 and PAK FA

    Su-34 = medium to long range strike.

    Tu-22M3M = long range and heavy payload strike.


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    Post  Mike E on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:25 pm

    GarryB wrote:The aircraft in question have been used a bit and were not very high spec... they were the simple cheap models they could use while the aircraft they ordered were up to spec.

    These aircraft were pretty much Su-30K and not Su-30MK... so pretty much Su-27UBs really.

    Also I believe most of the systems were converted to English and imperial for Indian use... the cost of reconverting them and putting more capable bits in them... well you wont get those flight hours back without a full overhaul... it is just cheaper to find another client for them... or cannibalise them for parts.

    Perhaps Argentina might like them as gifts with a follow on order for Su-30MKs...

    Thank you clearing that up GarryB.

    Hmmm, I'd bet Argentina would take a lowball.
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    Post  medo on Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:48 pm

    GarryB wrote:MiG-31 = Long range Interceptor for VKKO.

    PAK FA and Su-35 = Long range Air superiority fighters/tactical interceptors

    MiG-35 = medium range air superiority fighter/tactical interceptors.

    Su-30 = multirole operational trainer for Su-35 and PAK FA

    Su-34 = medium to long range strike.

    Tu-22M3M = long range and heavy payload strike.

    Agree, but for Su-30, there are two versions. Su-30M2 will be multirole trainer, most probably for Su-35 and PAK-FA too. Su-30SM is multirole fighter and form independent regiments in RuAF as it will in naval aviation.
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    Post  mack8 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:08 pm

    Gents, if i may ask for your help. Mr Fomin made available number 3/2014 of his Take-off magazine here. Starting from page 13 there is a great article regarding the russian military aviation industry achievements for 2013. Now, since i can understand only a limited amount of russian, can you confirm that upgraded aircraft delivered by that time to VVS comprise 40 Su-24M (Gefest&T upgrade), 80 Su-25SM, and about 50 MiG-31BM? Any additional details in the text, it says something about Su-24M and 2013 for instance, and what about strategic bombers? Thank you.

    http://take-off.ru/pdf_$/3_2014.pdf
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    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:35 am

    Russian Armed Forces to Receive Minimum of 230 New Planes, Helicopters in 2014

    MOSCOW, September 2 (RIA Novosti) -The Russian Armed Forces will receive no less than 230 new airplanes and helicopters by the end of 2014, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Tuesday.

    “As you know, modern aviation is being received actively in the Armed Forces, and this year alone more than 230 aircraft will be received,” Shoigu said, adding that 50 aircraft have already entered service and that another 180 will enter service by the end of the year.

    According to Shoigu, the military is paying special attention to mastering the use of the avionics and increasing its operational safety.

    Russia is currently undergoing a $640 billion rearmament program aimed at increasing the share of modern weaponry in Russia’s armed forces to 70 percent by 2020. According to the program, Russia's Air Force will receive about 2,000 new aircrafts, including 985 planes.
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    Post  Sujoy on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:10 am

    Aviaindra-2014 : Russo-Indian exercises

    LIPETSK, August 29. /ITAR-TASS/. Joint Russo-Indian exercisys "Aviaindra-2014" begin in Russia on Friday. An active phase of the aerial maneuvers will be held in Voronezh at the Pogonovo range and in Astrakhan Region at the Ashuluk training range, Colonel Igor Klimov, spokesman of Russia's Air Force, told journalists.
    Colonel General Viktor Bondarev, Commander-in-Chief of Russia's Air Force, is expected to attene a ceremony marking the start of the exercises in Lipetsk.

    "Russo-Indian crews manning the aircraft Su-30SM, helicopters Mi-35 and Mi-8 are to make joint flights with firing at ground targets, and drill the refuelling of Su-30SM aircraft in mid-air by the tanker plane Il-78," Klimov said.

    He pointed out that, beginning from August 25, Indian air pilots at the Lipetsk-based aviation center studied the areas of the forthcoming flights and practiced piloting skills on modern training facilities while air defense specialists have been familiarizing themselvs with anti-aircraft missile systems at the training center of anti-aircraft missile troops at Gatchina.
    The Russian Air Force spokesman said, "Besides, joint air defense crews at Ashuluk military range will repulse a strike by a simulated enemy with field firings of anti-aircraft missile systems S-400, S-300, "Buk-M1", and anti-aircraft missile-and-gun system Pantsir-S1." The purpose of the exercises will be to train joint Russo-Indian crews in accomplishing various function tasks.

    The exercises will continue until September 5.

    For me the most important part is the one that I have highlighted. The fighters will have to repulse fire from S-400, S-300, Buk-M1 and Pantsir-S1. Not easy on any given day.


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