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    Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:33 pm

    The Ivan Gren is expected to join Russia’s Northern Fleet.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Militarov on Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:38 am

    George1 wrote:
    The Ivan Gren is expected to join Russia’s Northern Fleet.

    Interesting. I expected it to go to some "warmer" fleet.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:20 am

    Militarov wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    The Ivan Gren is expected to join Russia’s Northern Fleet.

    Interesting. I expected it to go to some "warmer" fleet.

    Here in bmpd also says the same

    the ship was included in the Russian Navy with enrollment in the 121st brigade of landing ships of the Kola Fleet of the Northern Fleet.

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    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3244438.html
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:25 am

    Militarov wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    The Ivan Gren is expected to join Russia’s Northern Fleet.

    Interesting. I expected it to go to some "warmer" fleet.

    Same here but then I gave it a thought: Navy definitely seems pleased with results they have been getting out of leased civilian cargo ships for Syrian campaign so no point reinventing the wheel. They can always get plenty more of those if they need any.

    OTOH, resupplying bases in the Arctic requires ships that can beach themselves and offload cargo directly on the shore without infrastructure and Gren fits the bill perfectly.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:48 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    The Ivan Gren is expected to join Russia’s Northern Fleet.

    Interesting. I expected it to go to some "warmer" fleet.

    Same here but then I gave it a thought: Navy definitely seems pleased with results they have been getting out of leased civilian cargo ships for Syrian campaign so no point reinventing the wheel. They can always get plenty more of those if they need any.

    OTOH, resupplying bases in the Arctic requires ships that can beach themselves and offload cargo directly on the shore without infrastructure and Gren fits the bill perfectly.

    maybe we see some 1-2 Ropucha class from other fleets (Northern since they get the bigger Ivan Gren) to be transferred in BSF

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  hoom on Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:28 am

    OTOH, resupplying bases in the Arctic requires ships that can beach themselves and offload cargo directly on the shore without infrastructure and Gren fits the bill perfectly.
    Huh, makes sense I guess.
    Also possibly noteworthy that Ru been complaining that Norway is receiving more occupation security guarantee Marines.

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  hoom on Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:38 pm

    Edit: I see that was posted already Embarassed

    Anyways it occurs to me there was talk of physically swapping the engines round due to issue with backing, has that actually been done?
    Its kinda a big operation & I don't recall seeing any sign of it spending time in drydock with a big hole cut in it that I'd have expected for that.

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  hoom on Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:56 am

    So Charly015 has this comparison with a Ropucha which I think is pretty interesting


    And according to ppl at Balancer part of the reason its such a weird looking thing is it was originally supposed to be able to transit the river/canal system, was going to look like this

    later that requirement was removed so they raised the superstructure.

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  hoom on Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:18 am

    Couple of 'beauty' shots


    Nice lighting at least dunno

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