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    Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

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    hoom

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  hoom on Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:31 am

    Not really but ...ugh.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  GarryB on Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:36 am

    Awww... come on... all this whining about not being able to make ships any more, or them all taking for ever to make...

    The first ship was laid down in 2004, hit the water in 2012 and didn't enter Russian Navy service till 2018.... lots of problems and changes in design...

    This second boat was laid down in 2015, hit the water this year in 2018 and will enter service if it passes its tests next year in 2019...

    That is an enormous improvement even if you are being a censored about it...

    Suggests at least some progress... especially since it is a ship type that is not actually urgently needed.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Hole on Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:11 am

    I could once again inform everyone that the building of the first ship was stopped because of Mistral, but I won´t wast my time.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  GarryB on Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:37 am

    Of course not... everyone even remotely related to management or development or production must be taken out and beheaded immediately...

    I rather suspect the basic premise of scaling up a river boat was with the intent of modularity... if it had worked they could have standardised the design of ocean going landing vessels and river boats... but who could say it wont work until you actually try...

    But then there is no try... only do or do not... eh Master Yoda...

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