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    marat

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  marat on Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:23 pm

    June is here, are testing of Ivan Gren restarted?

    And what is situation regardin 2nd ship- Morgunov?
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:30 pm

    hoom wrote:
    Its quite an odd duck really Suspect
    From some angles quite rackish & business, from others it looks disproportioned & weird.

    It's a horrible design. The sooner RuN starts building LPDs and LHDs the better.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:23 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:.......
    It's a horrible design. The sooner RuN starts building LPDs and LHDs the better.

    Obsolete definitely. They need to move on ASAP.

    Still, not completing them now would be wasteful regardless of how crappy design is. New ship is still a new ship.

    I'd say that Navy is perfectly aware of deficiencies​ and slow pace is result of whole thing being on the back burner with bare minimum of effort, time and resources put into it.

    When it's done it's done. They will suffice for hauling loads in the Black Sea.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:53 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:.......
    It's a horrible design. The sooner RuN starts building LPDs and LHDs the better.

    Obsolete definitely. They need to move on ASAP.

    Still, not completing them now would be wasteful regardless of how crappy design is. New ship is still a new ship.

    I'd say that Navy is perfectly aware of deficiencies​ and slow pace is result of whole thing being on the back burner with bare minimum of effort, time and resources put into it.

    When it's done it's done. They will suffice for hauling loads in the Black Sea.

    If they use this LST as as some sort of SOF CB90/RHIB mother ship they may be on to something. But the design let them down, the hangar can't fit an Mi-8-sized chopper and I doubt if the helipad could take one too...
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Isos on Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:02 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:.......
    It's a horrible design. The sooner RuN starts building LPDs and LHDs the better.

    Obsolete definitely. They need to move on ASAP.

    Still, not completing them now would be wasteful regardless of how crappy design is. New ship is still a new ship.

    I'd say that Navy is perfectly aware of deficiencies​ and slow pace is result of whole thing being on the back burner with bare minimum of effort, time and resources put into it.

    When it's done it's done. They will suffice for hauling loads in the Black Sea.

    If they use this LST as as some sort of SOF CB90/RHIB mother ship they may be on to something. But the design let them down, the hangar can't fit an Mi-8-sized chopper and I doubt if the helipad could take one too...

    Can it fit some small fast attack craft/drone armed with AShM for high sea deployment ?

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  marat on Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:27 pm

    Tests are resumed>
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4313765

    Delivery is postpned to 2018.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  KiloGolf on Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:01 pm

    Isos wrote:Can it fit some small fast attack craft/drone armed with AShM for high sea deployment ?

    That CB-90 copy of theirs could do that. I believe the Swedes could fit their own AShM (Hellfire equivalent) on them boats.

    marat wrote:Tests are resumed>
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4313765

    Delivery is postpned to 2018.

    lol1  lol1  lol1

    Damn son!
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Militarov on Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:41 pm

    marat wrote:Tests are resumed>
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4313765

    Delivery is postpned to 2018.
    Suspect

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  marat on Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:53 pm

    Or maybee i have misunderstood this paragraph>

    "Иван Грен" - головной корабль проекта 11711, разработанного в ОАО "Невское проектно-конструкторское бюро". Он был заложен в декабре 2004 года, спущен на воду в мае 2012-го, заводские ходовые испытания начались в июне 2016 года. "Петр Моргунов" станет вторым кораблем этого проекта, который построит "Янтарь". Он должен быть передан флоту в 2018 году.

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4313765

    Maybee Morgunov should be delivered on 2018? I do not know Russian dunno
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  medo on Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:06 pm

    marat wrote:Or maybee i have misunderstood this paragraph>

    "Иван Грен" - головной корабль проекта 11711, разработанного в ОАО "Невское проектно-конструкторское бюро". Он был заложен в декабре 2004 года, спущен на воду в мае 2012-го, заводские ходовые испытания начались в июне 2016 года. "Петр Моргунов" станет вторым кораблем этого проекта, который построит "Янтарь". Он должен быть передан флоту в 2018 году.

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4313765

    Maybee Morgunov should be delivered on 2018? I do not know Russian dunno

    It actualy is readable as Morgunov will be delivered in 2018, but I think this is lapsus and Gren will be delivered in 2018.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Russian Patriot on Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:12 am

    Old video but not in thread
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  hoom on Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:58 am

    Lol I love how they used a butchered model of a Spruance class... russia

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