Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


    Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Share

    PapaDragon
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3679
    Points : 3791
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:28 pm


    Ivan Gren to be delivered to Navy by October 2016

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B073/

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9443
    Points : 9935
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Ivan Gren to be delivered to Navy by October 2016

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B073/

    another delay..


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9443
    Points : 9935
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:38 pm

    Large landing ship "Ivan Gren" moved to Baltiysk

    As reported, in the morning June 17, 2016 to complete the construction of the JSC "Baltic Shipyard" Yantar "(Kaliningrad) head a large amphibious ship "Ivan Gren" project 11711 passed in Baltiysk for the subsequent first exit at sea to factory sea trials.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1969352.html



    Nice it seems we are near to the delivery


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    PapaDragon
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3679
    Points : 3791
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:58 pm




    SeigSoloyvov
    Senior Sergeant
    Senior Sergeant

    Posts : 218
    Points : 220
    Join date : 2016-04-08

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:38 am

    My my finally the day is nearly upon us

    KiloGolf
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1261
    Points : 1279
    Join date : 2015-09-01
    Location : Macedonia, Hellas

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:59 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:My my finally the day is nearly upon us

    shhh don't jinx it lol1

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9443
    Points : 9935
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:37 am

    A few photos more





    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    SeigSoloyvov
    Senior Sergeant
    Senior Sergeant

    Posts : 218
    Points : 220
    Join date : 2016-04-08

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:22 am

    they are only building what two of those now? are these things even worth it really or should they have just saved the money for the Amp Assault ships they want to build.

    GarryB
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 15470
    Points : 16177
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:33 am

    Different sized vessels with more range and ocean going ability is what was required... I am sure they will find uses for these two vessels, but the navy wanted something more... AFAIK.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

    Flanky
    Sergeant
    Sergeant

    Posts : 184
    Points : 193
    Join date : 2011-05-02

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Flanky on Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:46 pm

    GarryB wrote:Different sized vessels with more range and ocean going ability is what was required... I am sure they will find uses for these two vessels, but the navy wanted something more... AFAIK.
    True story.... They are too small and cannot carry as much troops and hardware as Ropucha.

    PapaDragon
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3679
    Points : 3791
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:06 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:they are only building what two of those now? are these things even worth it really or should they have just saved the money for the Amp Assault ships they want to build.

    They are old project but when Mistrals were ordered they were restarted and expected to act as supplements to Mistrals and 6 were planned. But when that fell trough Navy ditched remaining ships and opted to start new projects from scratch. These two were too far into production to be canceled so they opted to finish them.
    They will probably go to Black Sea fleet. Low treat environment and short distances.

    Big_Gazza
    Lieutenant
    Lieutenant

    Posts : 510
    Points : 534
    Join date : 2014-08-25
    Location : Melbourne, Australia

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:56 pm

    Flanky wrote:True story.... They are too small and cannot carry as much troops and hardware as Ropucha.

    Rubbish. Max load is 13 MBTs and 300 troops, while Ropucha is 10 MBTs and 340 troops. The Grens have a helicopter as well.

    Not great ships, but will still enhance the naval amphibious landing capabilities. Certainly better than nothing...

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9443
    Points : 9935
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:55 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Flanky wrote:True story.... They are too small and cannot carry as much troops and hardware as Ropucha.

    Rubbish.  Max load is 13 MBTs and 300 troops, while Ropucha is 10 MBTs and 340 troops.  The Grens have a helicopter as well.

    Not great ships, but will still enhance the naval amphibious landing capabilities. Certainly better than nothing...

    well at least they are much better addition than the older obsolete Alligator class i guess


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    Dima
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1035
    Points : 1050
    Join date : 2012-03-22

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Dima on Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:15 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:they are only building what two of those now? are these things even worth it really or should they have just saved the money for the Amp Assault ships they want to build.
    Any ship that's available now is an asset. Thats the situation Russian Navy is in now, courtesy the colossal failure in planning and setting priorities. On top of that we had a multi-billion dollar Mistral courtesy some morons.

    Its provides higher capacity that the existing ones and thats the good point. The negative being, the second one is faaaaaaaaar away.

    PapaDragon
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3679
    Points : 3791
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:36 am


    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9443
    Points : 9935
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:22 am

    in this link also says that only 3 ships will be made of that class.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1986456.html


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    TheArmenian
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 1518
    Points : 1681
    Join date : 2011-09-14

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:31 am

    The internals of the Ivan gren.

    Compared to the Ropuchas, this ship has a wider cargo hold and has wider doors etc.

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=523302

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=523303

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=523294

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9443
    Points : 9935
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:15 am









    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2013263.html


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    hoom
    Senior Sergeant
    Senior Sergeant

    Posts : 252
    Points : 254
    Join date : 2016-05-06

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  hoom on Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:13 am

    Any ship that's available now is an asset
    This.

    I honestly don't understand why so many navies have such a huge hardon for amphibious ships these days, particularly the huge chopper carrier types dunno
    But at least Ivan Gren will likely be put to good use on the Syria Express, maybe allowing a couple of the older ships like Alligators to be retired.

    PapaDragon
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3679
    Points : 3791
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:00 pm


    Ivan Gren on trials in Bay of Finland













    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/82083/

    PapaDragon
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 3679
    Points : 3791
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:25 am


    Helicopter testing on Ivan Gren













    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2083111.html


    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9443
    Points : 9935
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:44 am

    On board of the large landing ship of the project 11711 "Ivan Gren"





































    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2103555.html


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    marat
    Junior Sergeant
    Junior Sergeant

    Posts : 103
    Points : 103
    Join date : 2015-04-26

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  marat on Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:37 am

    George1 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Ivan Gren to be delivered to Navy by October 2016

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B073/

    another delay..

    Any information on date of delivery? I hope it will be soon.

    George1
    Colonel
    Colonel

    Posts : 9443
    Points : 9935
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:38 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:Plant "Yantar" will deposit the Defense Ministry by the year 2012 the ship "Ivan Gren"

    "Subsequently, the work on its saturation and installing add-ins. In accordance with the schedule of the descent of the ship on the water must occur at the end of 2011. And in 2012, Ivan Gren will be transferred to the customer," - added the representative of the company.

    He clarified that the head BDK Project 11711 was laid on the Yantar in December 2004 to order the Defense Ministry.

    Twisted Evil


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    Sponsored content

    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Sponsored content Today at 6:57 am


      Current date/time is Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:57 am