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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:56 am

    Flanky wrote:True story.... They are too small and cannot carry as much troops and hardware as Ropucha.

    Rubbish. Max load is 13 MBTs and 300 troops, while Ropucha is 10 MBTs and 340 troops. The Grens have a helicopter as well.

    Not great ships, but will still enhance the naval amphibious landing capabilities. Certainly better than nothing...
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Dima on Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:15 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:they are only building what two of those now? are these things even worth it really or should they have just saved the money for the Amp Assault ships they want to build.
    Any ship that's available now is an asset. Thats the situation Russian Navy is in now, courtesy the colossal failure in planning and setting priorities. On top of that we had a multi-billion dollar Mistral courtesy some morons.

    Its provides higher capacity that the existing ones and thats the good point. The negative being, the second one is faaaaaaaaar away.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:36 am

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:22 pm

    in this link also says that only 3 ships will be made of that class.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1986456.html


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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:31 pm

    The internals of the Ivan gren.

    Compared to the Ropuchas, this ship has a wider cargo hold and has wider doors etc.

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=523302

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=523303

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=523294
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:15 pm









    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2013263.html


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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  hoom on Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:13 pm

    Any ship that's available now is an asset
    This.

    I honestly don't understand why so many navies have such a huge hardon for amphibious ships these days, particularly the huge chopper carrier types dunno
    But at least Ivan Gren will likely be put to good use on the Syria Express, maybe allowing a couple of the older ships like Alligators to be retired.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:00 am


    Ivan Gren on trials in Bay of Finland













    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/82083/
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:25 am


    Helicopter testing on Ivan Gren













    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2083111.html

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:44 pm

    On board of the large landing ship of the project 11711 "Ivan Gren"





































    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2103555.html


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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  marat on Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:37 pm

    George1 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Ivan Gren to be delivered to Navy by October 2016

    http://flotprom.ru/2016/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B073/

    another delay..

    Any information on date of delivery? I hope it will be soon.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:38 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:Plant "Yantar" will deposit the Defense Ministry by the year 2012 the ship "Ivan Gren"

    "Subsequently, the work on its saturation and installing add-ins. In accordance with the schedule of the descent of the ship on the water must occur at the end of 2011. And in 2012, Ivan Gren will be transferred to the customer," - added the representative of the company.

    He clarified that the head BDK Project 11711 was laid on the Yantar in December 2004 to order the Defense Ministry.

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:39 pm

    "Ivan Gren" will be released in the spring το the sea for the next phase of tests


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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  KiloGolf on Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:59 am

    George1 wrote:"Ivan Gren" will be released in the spring το the sea for the next phase of tests

    OMG it's been half a year since June. FFS angry
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:17 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
    George1 wrote:"Ivan Gren" will be released in the spring το the sea for the next phase of tests

    OMG it's been half a year since June. FFS angry

    As one friend of mine said, USS Starship Enterprise and Ivan Gren will be comissioned to servce at the same time Very Happy
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:51 pm

    George1 wrote:"Ivan Gren" will be released in the spring το the sea for the next phase of tests

    Whoops... I don't read Russian but the article talks about Project 18280... a spy ship totally unrelated to Ivan Gren.

    OMG it's been half a year since June. FFS

    And who is to say it did not get to sea and complete its tests on time?

    This article has nothing to do with Ivan Gren or any landing ship type...

    https://translate.yandex.by/web?url=https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150702/1109079566.html

    As one friend of mine said, USS Starship Enterprise and Ivan Gren will be comissioned to servce at the same time

    Has anyone actually even read the link posted?

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Benya on Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:21 am

    Russian Navy Landing Ship Ivan Gren LST to continue builders’ trials in spring

    Russia’s Project 11711 large amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren will go to sea in the spring of 2017 to continue its shipbuilders’ trials, Yantar Shipyard spokesman Sergei Mikhailov said in an interview with RIA Novosti news agency. "Work on the ship is currently under way. The necessity of the work was revealed during the first stage of its trials," Mikhailov said.


    Russia’s Project 11711 large amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren at sea for the first time
    Picture taken on 06.25.2016. Source: RoyalJib / forums.airbase.ru

    "As soon as the work is completed, the ship Ivan Gren will continue its shipbuilders’ sea trials. Their success will be crucial," he added.

    In accordance with the renewed program, the ship is expected to be delivered to Russia’s Navy in 2017. The Project 11711 large amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren is designed to land marines on a coastal area seized by the enemy and transport military hardware and equipment. The ship can carry 13 tanks or 36 armored personnel carriers. Instead of marines, it can transport 1,500 tons of cargo. The ship can carry one or two Kamov Ka-29 (NATO reporting name: Helix-B) troop lift helicopters. It may carry the Ka-52K (Hokum-B) shipborne rotorcraft as well.

    The ship Ivan Gren is armed with two 122mm A-215 20-round rocket launchers, the Igla (SA-18 Grouse) man-portable surface-to-air missile system, the 100mm A-190 gun and the 30mm AK-630M small-caliber antiaircraft artillery system.

    The ship has a displacement of 5,000 tons, a length of 120 meters, a width of 16.5 meters, a speed of 18 knots and cruising capacity of 30 days. The ship’s crew totals 100.

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    Sea trials were put on hold in October 2016 after problems surfaced with the degaussing system. A Yantar representative said at the time: "At the initial stage mistakes were made in calculating the magnetic field of the warship and now it is necessary to adjust the degaussing system,"

    The Ivan Gren large landing ship had its keel laid in December 2004 and was floated in May 2012. Factory tests began in the second half of June 2016. The warship was set to be handed over to the Russian Navy by the end of 2016. The defense ministry ordered Yantar to build yet another warship of the project - the Petr Morgunov. It has to be passed on to the Navy in 2018.

    Source: Arrow http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/january-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/4804-russian-navy-landing-ship-ivan-gren-lst-to-continue-builders-trials-in-spring.html



    So that's why they postponed the trials.
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:45 am

    Russian Navy to receive amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren in autumn

    Project 11711 warships are designed to land marines on a coastal area seized by the enemy and transport military hardware and equipment

    MOSCOW, January 25. /TASS/. The Project 11711 amphibious assault lead ship Ivan Gren will be delivered to the Russian Navy no sooner than November, President of Russia’s United Ship-Building Corporation Alexei Rakhmanov said on Wednesday.

    "Perhaps, this will happen no sooner than November because quite a complex problem has surfaced with the degaussing system, on which work is currently under way, and we’ll be able to finish this work," Rakhmanov said.

    The most important thing now is that scientists should confirm the accuracy of calculations so that "we do not have to slash it again" subsequently, he said.

    "Unfortunately, the Ivan Gren has had such a hard fate: the ship has been under construction for almost 14 years, and not even an enterprise within the United Ship-Building Corporation began to build it, and over this time the technical requirements for the vessel have changed three times," Rakhmanov said.

    The Project 11711 large amphibious assault lead ship Ivan Gren was laid down at the Yantar Shipyard in Kaliningrad in December 2004 and put afloat in May 2012.

    The ship started undergoing sea trials in June 2016. On order from Russia’s Defense Ministry, the Yantar Shipyard will build another ship of this class, Pyotr Morgunov, which is expected to be delivered to the Navy in 2018.

    Project 11711 warships are designed to land marines on a coastal area seized by the enemy and transport military hardware and equipment. The warship can carry 13 tanks or 36 armored personnel carriers, and also up to 300 marines. The amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren is armed with three 30mm six-barrel artillery systems and two Kamov Ka-29 transport and combat helicopters.

    The ship has a displacement of 5,000 tons, a length of 120 meters, a width of 16.5 meters, a speed of 18 knots and a cruising capacity of 30 days.


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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Militarov on Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:49 am

    "Russian Navy to receive amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren in autumn" - which year Very Happy
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:59 am

    No sooner than November means 2018. This ship was laid down in 2004. Almost 1.5 decade for its completion


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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 am

    George1 wrote:No sooner than November means 2018. This ship was laid down in 2004. Almost 1.5 decade for its completion

    I hope it's not 2018 this is a landing ship.....

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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  Honesroc on Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:37 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    George1 wrote:No sooner than November means 2018. This ship was laid down in 2004. Almost 1.5 decade for its completion

    I hope it's not 2018 this is a landing ship.....

    "Autumn" historically means Spring of the following year. Meh, this ship won't "make" their Navy. I hope people aren't losing sleep over this...
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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  GarryB on Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:40 pm

    Meh, this ship won't "make" their Navy. I hope people aren't losing sleep over this...

    It gives the usual trolls a massive hard on here, but otherwise it is no big deal... it is what it is...


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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:43 am

    Sea trials of Russia’s large amphibious assault ship to start in June

    The trials of the Ivan Gren were interrupted over problems with its degaussing system

    KALININGRAD, April 11. /TASS/. The sea trials of the large amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren interrupted over problems with its degaussing system will restart in June this year, Project Management Director at the Yantar Shipyard Roman Fedyunin said on Tuesday.

    "The Ivan Gren, like the [frigate] Admiral Makarov, is set to take part in the parade on the occasion of Russia’s Navy Day in St. Petersburg on July 30. In view of this, the shipyard has prepared a specified schedule of trials in order to resume them in June. We understand that we’ll have to do everything within quite a short period of time and, of course, the warship’s participation in the parade will noticeably influence the pace of works. But we must deliver the warship this year," the shipyard’s newspaper Vperyod quoted Fedyunin as saying.

    "Our proposal will be shortly examined in the Defense Ministry and we hope for a positive result," he added.

    The sea trials of the large amphibious ship Ivan Gren were suspended in late October 2016 over problems with its degaussing system and the warship had to return to the shipyard.

    The Project 11711 large amphibious assault lead ship Ivan Gren was laid down at the Yantar Shipyard in Kaliningrad in December 2004 and put afloat in May 2012.

    The warship started undergoing sea trials in June 2016. On order from Russia’s Defense Ministry, the Yantar Shipyard will build another warship of this class, Pyotr Morgunov, which is expected to be delivered to the Navy in 2018.

    Project 11711 warships are designed to land marines on a coastal area seized by the enemy and transport military hardware and equipment. The warship can carry 13 tanks or 36 armored personnel carriers, and also up to 300 marines. The amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren is armed with three 30mm six-barrel artillery systems and two Kamov Ka-29 transport and combat helicopters.

    The warship has a displacement of 5,000 tonnes, a length of 120 meters, a width of 16.5 meters, a speed of 18 knots and a cruising capacity of 30 days.


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    Re: Project 11711E: "Ivan Gren" class

    Post  hoom on Sat May 06, 2017 12:11 am

    Some pics via http://charly015.blogspot.co.nz/2017/05/unas-fotos-del-lst-ivan-gren.html (but pretty sure same are at various other places too)



    Its quite an odd duck really Suspect
    From some angles quite rackish & business, from others it looks disproportioned & weird.

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