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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  franco on Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:24 pm

    The military action in Syria are the first, where the Russian T-90 was a baptism of fire.

    About a year ago, these tanks modification "A" were seen on the Russian air base used videoconferencing Hmeymim and destined for its defense.

    The emergence of the latest available SAR armed Russian tanks caused a strong reaction in many of the Western media. Presentations of experts, called T-90A "supertankom" boiled down to the conclusion that Russia has deployed to the airbase a few cars, because the Syrian government forces, armed with T-72, can not ensure the protection of the air base. T-90 is better suited for the defense of such a facility in the desert, as it is more secure tower, integrated with the main thermal sight, an improved stabilizer guns and improved automatic loader. A mounted on the tank fire control system, superior world counterparts, allowing the machine to move the first shot to hit moving targets in almost any weather.

    Analysts of the journal The National Interest then noted that if the militants of the terrorist group Daishev (Arabic name banned in Russia "Islamic State" - a comment. "RG") apply captured in Iraq, US tanks the M1A1 "Abrams" is against the T-90 have no chance. In addition to the low training terrorists outcome of the match and experts explained further equipment of the worst "Abrams" - for export, they were supplied in the version with reduced features.

    A few months later it became known that some tank units Syrian government troops were armed with T-90 sample as military aid from the Russian Federation in 1992. Crews were formed from the SAR personnel who have experience in driving T-72 and retrained.

    The first T-90 were used by Syrian troops in Aleppo province. In the Internet published several videos depicting the participation of Russian-made tanks in the fighting in the region.

    Middle East media reported that it was the T-90 played a significant role in the successful operations of ATS units of the army. Armored vehicles provide promotion assault groups, as a result of which were released on the strategically important settlements, as well as ways to cut off the supply of militants. Some of the tanks were deployed in the cities, to take control of Syrian forces.

    A number of sources can be seen and the responses military ATS members of the crew of the T-90. According to them, all the nuances of Russian cars are they still unknown, but recent battles have proven efficacy and good protection of these tanks from many types of weapons, including advanced anti-missile systems, the TOW, which in large quantities are terrorists.

    A clear proof of this has been appeared in February this year on the web about Aleppo captured video showing an attack of militants who used TOW-2A anti-Russian tank. The missile struck the frontal part of the tower. The story gleefully fighters stopped abruptly after the tank tower appeared live crew member. Later there was also subjected to shock photo of T-90, which was on the Syrian repair plant. It has been reported that the machines were replaced by sights headroom and dynamic protection units.

    Notable are also the pictures, which show how the T-90 can withstand hit three rockets. According to the participants of the battle, the terrorists first fired one missile at a car, then two more. The first exploded on the approach, the second slightly damaged the caterpillar, and the third and all passed. The tank was able to continue driving and shooting.

    In the ranks of the SAR personnel, according to some sources, often sounded the opinion that a greater number of T-90 would facilitate rapid completion of combat operations in the country.

    According to an expert on the Syrian crisis Yuri Lyamina, quoted by "Herald of Mordovia", at the disposal of CAP are not more than three dozen T-90 government troops.

    - These tanks are spread along the front line. In one direction is not used for more than one company. For example, about Aleppo at the end of the past - the beginning of this years there were only about a dozen cars - said Ljamin.

    The publication also notes that since the advent of neither the T-90 was not destroyed in Syria. The only loss can be considered only capture militants in the Aleppo region in early June, almost serviceable tanks.
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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:47 pm

    Iranian Qarrar before the modernization, A Safir with all kinds of ERA and bells and whistles.

    https://twitter.com/klkamashiq/status/789502147419340800

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    Catherine cameras an integral part of Army’s T-90 main battle tanks

    Post  Pinto on Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:40 am

    Over 7,000 units in service on board 30 types of fighting vehicles globally

    MUMBAI, OCTOBER 24:


    Antoine Caput, Vice-President and Country Director — India, Thales​


    The most complete range of cameras available globally for target acquisition and weapon engagements by land vehicles — the Catherine family of thermal imaging cameras — are an integral part of the Indian Army’s T-90 Main Battle Tanks (MBTs).

    The T-90s are originally Russian tanks. In November 2006, India ordered a batch of 330 T-90 tanks, to be licence-built by Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadi near Chennai.

    Making of ‘Bhishma’

    The factory was set up by the Ordnance Factories Board to manufacture heavy battlefield equipment. It manufactures India’s main battle tank Arjun and the T-90s. The locally assembled MBTs were christened ‘Bhishma’, and are fitted with the Shtora self-protection system as well as Catherine thermal imagers from Thales of France and Peleng of Belarus.

    India has about 850 T-90 tanks now and plans to induct 1,640 T-90 tanks by 2020. Though the Catherine thermal imager is already in service with the Indian Army, this May, French defence and aerospace company Thales won a new order.

    “Thales won a contract from Beltech (European firm) to provide Catherine thermal imaging cameras for T-90 MBTs of the Indian Army,” said Antoine Caput, Vice-President and Country Director – India, Thales.

    As part of the contract, Caput went on to add, “Thales is making a transfer of production to integrate 260 compact LWIR (longwave infrared) thermal imaging (TI) Catherine into Beltech’s TI Sights, that will be installed on the T-90 battle tanks of Indian Army.” The tanks have a guided weapon system and ballistic computer facilities to ensure accurate firing.

    Noting that thermal imagers tend to allow gunners, commanders and observers see by night and by day in adverse conditions, Caput said more than 7,000 Catherine cameras are in service on-board 30 types of fighting vehicles globally.

    The cameras’ combination of functionality, long-range performance and extended situational awareness has made the Catherine MP the current UK-preferred in-service Thermal Imager (TI) with the British Army. Its networked battlefield capability improves battlefield situational awareness, while the high definition TI with megapixel resolution offers flexibility and reliability where extreme performance is demanded on land, sea and air platforms.

    The new order consolidates Thales leadership in optronic technologies in India. “With an association that started in 1953, Thales has been an active contributor to India’s development, especially in the fields of defence, aerospace and ground transportation,” said Caput, adding the transfer of production of Catherine contributed to the ‘Make in India’ policy of the Indian government.


    http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...rmys-t90-main-battle-tanks/article9262621.ece



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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  Austin on Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:51 am

    India Approved building additional 464 T-90 Tanks at OFB

    http://www.defensenews.com/articles/indias-dac-approves-blacklisting-policy-other-procurement-projects

    464 T-90 Tank for $206.89 million , Each T-90 cost ~ $2.24 million
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:11 am

    Austin wrote:India Approved building additional 464 T-90 Tanks at OFB
    http://www.defensenews.com/articles/indias-dac-approves-blacklisting-policy-other-procurement-projects

    464 T-90 Tank for $206.89 million , Each T-90 cost ~ $2.24 million

    If that sales figure is correct, the per unit cost is only $443,000. That seems simply WAY too cheap.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:24 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Austin wrote:India Approved building additional 464 T-90 Tanks at OFB
    http://www.defensenews.com/articles/indias-dac-approves-blacklisting-policy-other-procurement-projects

    464 T-90 Tank for $206.89 million , Each T-90 cost ~ $2.24 million

    If that sales figure is correct, the per unit cost is only $443,000.  That seems simply WAY too cheap.

    It isn't, the tanks will be produced in India with only hull and turret components going in. India's contracting budget is only for acquisition here. Labour is already taken into budget because Avadi TOF is state entreprise. Therefore the cost per unit is simply brushed down, creatively.

    However total cost shouldn't be over 800K. Don't forget, this isn't a profit sale, the state makes those tanks at cost effectiveness, not profit. Yes that shows how much the price gets inflated on an ITAR/FMS sale and mostly because transfer, secrecy and off course profit.


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    Post  Austin on Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:40 am

    Sorry my bad , The actual cost in Indian Rupee is "464 Russian origin T90 tanks which are being manufactured by the Ordnance Factory Board for Rs 13,448 crore


    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/081116/govt-clears-rs-82000-crore-for-new-tejas-aircraft-choppers-russian-tanks.html


    13448 crore in India Rupee is little more than USD 2  billion , So unit cost for 464 tank is   $4.3 million , Most certainly this is T-90MS purchase to be built in India
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:45 am

    Austin wrote:Sorry my bad , The actual cost in Indian Rupee is "464 Russian origin T90 tanks which are being manufactured by the Ordnance Factory Board for Rs 13,448 crore


    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/081116/govt-clears-rs-82000-crore-for-new-tejas-aircraft-choppers-russian-tanks.html


    13448 crore in India Rupee is little more than USD 2  billion , So unit cost for 464 tank is   $4.3 million , Most certainly this is T-90MS purchase to be built in India

    Does this mean the guys at Defense one rely on Google translations?

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    Post  Austin on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:03 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Austin wrote:Sorry my bad , The actual cost in Indian Rupee is "464 Russian origin T90 tanks which are being manufactured by the Ordnance Factory Board for Rs 13,448 crore


    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/081116/govt-clears-rs-82000-crore-for-new-tejas-aircraft-choppers-russian-tanks.html


    13448 crore in India Rupee is little more than USD 2  billion , So unit cost for 464 tank is   $4.3 million , Most certainly this is T-90MS purchase to be built in India

    Does this mean the guys at Defense one rely on Google translations?

    Not sure but instead of writing $20689 million or USD $2 billion , They wrote 206.89 million USD Rolling Eyes

    Must be editing issue who knows , But India will be the first country to operate T-90MS

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    Post  Austin on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:04 am

    T-90MS in Kuwait

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:33 am

    That tank is sooo frustrating.
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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:16 am

    Keep in mind that making a tank yourself will always be rather more expensive than having someone else make it on their existing factories.

    Getting to make it yourself... normally buy a few and then assemble some from knock down kits and then build your own is expensive but money invested in your own economy and your own workers and infrastructure.


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    Post  Mindstorm on Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:48 pm


    Austin wrote:Not sure but instead of writing $20689 million or USD $2 billion , They wrote 206.89 million USD Rolling Eyes

    Must be editing issue who knows , But India will be the first country to operate T-90MS


    Yes, and a very good choice, if naturally it will be ultimately transformed in an actual deal (likely, in mine opinion not much later than the Russian MoD forthcoming deal for the " Прорыв-3" modernization program of its T-90 fleet).

    Anyway it will be interesting to see if Indian MoD will opt for the modernized "Арена-Э" or for the integration of a foreign APS because the inclusion of such a system together with the modernized ТШУ-1-7М is in mine opinion mandatory for the acquisistion program of advanced MBT at the level of the T-90MS.

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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  Isos on Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:43 am

    Does the T-90MS carry T-14 gun ? I've read that the main problem of the older gun was that you can't fit longer projectile which was a problem for the sabot munitions and couldn't give an apprpriate response to new US sabot rounds which are like 1m long.

    Is there an upgrade with that canon for T-90A/S already in service ?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:39 pm

    Isos wrote:Does the T-90MS carry T-14 gun ? I've read that the main problem of the older gun was that you can't fit longer projectile which was a problem for the sabot munitions and couldn't give an apprpriate response to new US sabot rounds which are like 1m long.

    Is there an upgrade with that canon for T-90A/S already in service ?

    Nope MS has the 2A46M5, While the T-14 has a 2A82M(1?). Changes in breech (for pressure safety) but most importantly autoloader would be required. So unless the MS has a new turret with another autoloader, the tank will have to do with modernized rounds of legacy standards.
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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:21 pm

    People are saying this is a realistic model of the rumored Burlak upgrade, notice the resemblance between this and the model of the Armata BMPT:














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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:51 am

    We have whole layout of Burlak upgrade and Proryv upgrade, so basically yes this is the turret in question.
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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:42 pm

    Are we going to see this only on T-90's? are there any prospects to bring close all the T-72's to such an upgrade?
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:17 am

    New modernization of T-90 named T-90AM for domestic army is slightly different. It has new 2A82 125 mm MG (2A46M-5 for export version) with improved autoloader allowing long rods using, with 22 ready to use rounds (40 rounds all), 70% better barrel lifspan. -10 - 45 grad vertical and 316 grad horizontal angle

    http://igorrgroup.blogspot.co.nz/2011/09/new-information-pics-of-modernized-t-90.html


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    Post  Austin on Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:30 am

    Russian Army eyes MBT upgrades
    Christopher F Foss, London - IHS Jane's International Defence Review

    http://www.janes.com/article/66105/russian-army-eyes-mbt-upgrades

    Russia may upgrade parts of its T-72 and T-90 main battle tank (MBT) fleets with the automatic target tracker (ATT) and fire control computer (FCC) installed in the Armata T-14 MBT, which is now entering production at UralVagonZavod's Nizhny Tagil facility.

    The installation of the ATT and the FCC from the T-14 Armata will improve the first round hit capability of the older T-72 and T-90 MBTs under adverse battlefield conditions, as well as reducing the workload on the gunner.

    Once locked on, the ATT constantly tracks the target and lays on the 125 mm smoothbore gun as well as taking into account inputs from the sensors, such as the speed and direction of the platform, condition of the gun, and ambient weather. The gunner then decides when to engage the target.

    The T-72B3 and T-90 MBTs selected to be upgraded will be those already fitted with the Kalina computerised fire control system (FCS), the latest version of which is installed in the T-14 Armata.

    The T-72B3 has been deployed on operations on the Russia/Ukraine border where it has demonstrated a high level of survivability because it is fitted with the latest generation Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour (ERA), which provides protection not only against missiles and rockets fitted with a high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warhead, but also kinetic energy projectiles.

    The decision to further enhance the capabilities of at least part of its existing MBT fleet could indicate that Russia will not replace the T-72 and subsequently the T-90 MBTs with the T-14 Armata on a one-for-one basis in the near term, and will continue to deploy a mixed MBT fleet.

    Russia has already decided to upgrade part of its T-80BV turbine-powered MBTs to extend their operational life, with the first of these to be handed over in 2017 from UralVagonZavod's Omsk facility.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:42 am

    Retrofitting systems designed for Armata and other new generation vehicle families makes a lot of sense as it will improve performance of the older vehicles as well as increase production numbers of these systems which should reduce their costs.

    It would also reduce the number of system types doing the same job in different vehicles which eases training and maintainence.

    Note the TOR air defence system had an optical target tracker in the 1980s, as did the Pantsir and now even the Kornet-EM has one too.

    They greatly increase accuracy of tracking targets especially when receiving return fire in a combat situation.


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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  Arctic_Fox on Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:17 pm

    T-90M «Proryv-3»:


    From Defence Blog.
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    Post  Benya on Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:34 pm

    Arctic_Fox wrote:T-90M «Proryv-3»:


    From Defence Blog.

    Looks cool, but that bar-slat armor does not really eliminates that "shot trap" on the lower side of the turret front, at least it offers some protection against shaped charges like HEAT-FS shells or ATGMs/RPG grenades.
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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  Mike E on Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:38 am

    Why does that myth persist? There are no such things as "shot-traps" when the ammunition being fired is APFSDS or HEAT

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    Re: T-90 MBT: News

    Post  Austin on Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:42 am

    IS that the first prototype of T-90M Break-3 ? How does the Break-3 design differ from T-90MS ?

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