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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:10 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:...It's a multi-polar World now, not a single superpower will dominate it anytime soon.

    It's not multi-polar world yet

    And should it be day become multi-polar keep in mind that poles don't share the gravy





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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:21 pm

    It's not multi-polar world yet
    If not now, it soon will be. Otherwise, why would the US want to drive a wedge between Russia & China while also wooing India? There would be no need to pursue the balance of power politics & methods to its favor if the US held all the cards.
    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/01/a-multipolar-world-brings-back-the-national-champions/

    The US sits on the S. Pole, but not in the position to enforce any claim on the N. Pole. ..the most active Arctic power has been Russia, who has taken efforts to assert its maritime claims, develop resources, and even begin militarizing the region. In comparison, the United States is woefully behind as, even today, it owns a total of two active icebreakers—of which only one is functional.
    https://globalsecurityreview.com/united-states-must-work-china-ensure-arctic-freedom-navigation/

    So by default, it's not a unipolar world anymore (pun intended).
    Proponents of a unipolar system often dismiss setbacks in American foreign policy because setbacks don’t comport with their unrealistic visions of U.S. hegemony.
    Ultimately, whether we live in a multipolar or unipolar world is an objective, not a political, question, and it is an exceedingly important one. The answer affects how we understand the North Korea crisis, developments in Iran and the trade skirmish with China. If the world is unipolar, then the stories dominating the headlines today are all brushfires that the U.S. is struggling to put out and that won’t be of much consequence even five years from now. If the world is on the verge of multipolarity, then these issues are manifestations of the competition between the U.S. and its rising challengers, and the post-1991 way of viewing the world has become obsolete.
    Even so, the U.S. is still the world’s pre-eminent power. This isn’t necessarily a permanent state of affairs. If, for example, GPF is wrong about China’s and Russia’s underlying weaknesses, a multipolar world might be closer than I’m suggesting.
    https://geopoliticalfutures.com/multipolar-world-emerging/

    https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/china-embraces-rather-than-fears-a-multi-polar-world/

    https://globalsecurityreview.com/the-early-stages-of-a-multipolar-world-order/

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/42704667?read-now=1&seq=2#page_scan_tab_contents


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    Post  Hole on Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:15 pm

    New sub drone

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:25 am

    They got the first Su-35 in 2017, doubt thats enough time to copie or upgrade any aircraft.

    Why do you say that?

    If I had 5 IBM computers in different rooms of my house, but then I got a new set of computers that used a LAN and they were connected together... even if I didn't change the CPUs or Motherboards or even the RAM in those first five computers I can upgrade their performance immeasurably by adding them to the LAN so they can share resources.

    I might have had one computer with a printer and one with a scanner and one set up as a flight simulator with flight controls and foot pedals... now I could use the scanner and printer from any computer.

    The Su-30MKK had modern bits but AFAIK they weren't plug and play and adding and removing components was not so easy.

    Su-35 would be different, but you don't need to replace everything in the Su-30MKK to make it better... even just rearranging the computer networks could improve performance and make it a better aircraft.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:11 am

    US designed and built those F-15/16/18s, not to mention the B-52s, they didn't buy export versions of them from God knows where
    The F-15 was inspired by the MiG-25; the F-16 was an answer to the MiG-21/23; the F-18 is its 2 engine version; the B-52 is less fuel efficient than the Tu-95 & is being re engined.
    By the same token, the Chinese invented gunpowder, rockets, sea mines, ship rudder, hand grenades, silk, porcelain, paper, compass, & paper money. The traders & later Mongols spread all of that to the West; the Turks & Europeans then invented/improved cannons & firearms.
    So, China is now catching up.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:45 pm

    Don't forget the printing press that allowed the automation of the printed word, which made books more accessible and faster and easier to reproduce, moving the printed and written language from the hands of the rich and powerful and the church, to the average person...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:52 pm

    Don't forget the printing press..
    Gutenberg invented it in 1439, before any direct contact with China & w/o knowing the Chinese did it earlier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Gutenberg
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    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:24 am

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:28 am

    Gutenberg invented it in 1439, before any direct contact with China & w/o knowing the Chinese did it earlier.

    That is what the europeans claim, they also say Russia invaded the Crimea in 2014...
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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:56 am

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    Post  walle83 on Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:05 am

    A type 52D and 52C destroyer passes eachother. Notice the small difference in the sensors and armament.

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    Post  walle83 on Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:50 pm

    Chinese Type-052D missile destroyer nr 131 on friendly visit in Japan.

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