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    New Naval Helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  Militarov on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:04 am

    "Promising naval aviation helicopter, which is designed to shift the Ka-27, codenamed "the Lamprey". TASS I reported a source in the military-industrial complex. "This is a ship-based helicopter, which will be the next after the Ka-52K. The project was called "Lamprey"," — said the Agency interlocutor. According to the source, at the moment it's the stage of technical design: worked out the General layout of the helicopter, various assemblies and mechanisms. The source did not name the main tactical and technical characteristics of the new machine, saying only that it is "traditional Kamov's helicopters to the layout". The traditional scheme of helicopters of Kamov design Bureau the circuit with coaxial screws.



    In turn, another source in the industry said that the size of the helicopter the S. S. minnow and its takeoff weight will be less than that of the Ka-27 (he is 12 tons). Earlier, in August 2015, the head of naval aviation of the Russian Navy Igor Kozhin said that Russia has created a fundamentally new ship-based helicopter, which will be ready in 2018-2020. About creating the deck helicopter of the new generation in June 2015, also said "the Tape.ru" the General Director of Corporation "Helicopters of Russia" Alexander Mikheev. Deck-based helicopter Ka-27 entered service in 1981, he developed on the basis of helicopter Ka-25. At the moment he is the main ship by a helicopter of the Russian Navy. Produced in two versions — anti-submarine (Ka-P) and search and rescue (Ka-27PS). Also on its basis were created a transport and assault helicopter of the marine corps Ka-29 and radar picket helicopter Ka-31."


    Source: https://latestnewsresource.com/en/news/v-oboronke-rasskazali-o-sozdanii-novogo-korabelnogo-vertoleta-minoga

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    Re: New Naval Helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  George1 on Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:46 pm

    Prospective helicopter for naval aviation, which is being developed to replace the multi-purpose Ka-27, received a code "Lamprey"

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1605109.html


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    New naval helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  mack8 on Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:31 pm

    Another small article on bmpd, the "Minoga" (Ka-65?) will be equipped with two TV7-117VK engines of 3750 HP emergency and 3000 HP in flight. It does look like a much cleaned and refined Ka-27, and since first image of this concept appeared as far back as 2009, they must have been working on it for quite some time.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1614538.html

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    new naval helicopter Lamprey

    Post  hoom on Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:10 pm

    Is it reasonable to talk of the new Naval helicopter 'Lamprey' to replace Ka-27 here?
    Couldn't find an obvious thread covering that dunno
    I see has been moved to correct thread Cool

    Bastion-karpenko is quoting TASS that Kamov is working on it, eta about 10yrs, 'conventional' Kamov style coaxial-rotors.
    They have a couple of sketches but I think looks like 2 different weight classes?


    First one looks fairly conventional, 2nd looks bigger, cleaner + has pusher props, I like.

    In my mind it would seem to make sense to base both Navy & Army choppers on at least the same basic rotor/powerplant setup.


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    Re: New Naval Helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:01 am

    In “Kamov” told about the new naval helicopter “Lamprey”

    In Kamov told about the new naval helicopter Lamprey.jpg" alt="Naval helicopter, developed in the framework of the ROC "Lamprey", will be ready in 10 years. This was stated in an interview with TASS General designer of firm "Kamov" Sergey Mikheev. On the establishment of prospective helicopter sea-based source in the defense Ministry announced in December 2015.

    Naval helicopter, developed in the framework of the ROC “Lamprey”, will be ready in 10 years. This was stated in an interview with TASS General designer of firm “Kamov” Sergey Mikheev.

    Mikheyev noted that the future machine will have the traditional Kamov design Bureau coaxial scheme. “There is no other option. I believe that the future of a coaxial circuit, due to characteristics of aerodynamics”, — he explained.

    Earlier, in December 2015, a source in the defense Ministry, revealing the cipher ROC “Lamprey”, noted that at that time it was a stage of the technical design were worked out the General layout of the helicopter, and various components and mechanisms.

    That the helicopter is in principle designed in the summer of 2015 was announced by the chief of the naval aviation of the Russian Navy Igor Kozhin, the General Director of Corporation “Helicopters of Russia” Alexander Mikheev. Kozhin, in particular, noted that the helicopter will be waiting by the 2018-2020 year.

    In 2009, materials of Corporation “Helicopters of Russia”, dedicated to the development of the range of military helicopters, mentioned prospective ship’s helicopter Ka-65. At that time the machine was intended to develop on the basis of the Ka-62 by 2020.

    At the moment the main carrier-based Navy helicopter is Ka-27, taken into service in 1981. It is developed on the basis of helicopter Ka-25. Available in two basic versions — anti-submarine (Ka-27PL) and search and rescue (Ka-27PS). He also established a transport and assault helicopter of the marine corps, the Ka-29 helicopter of radar-tracking patrol of Ka-31.
    http://rushincrash.com/forces/in-kamov-told-about-the-new-naval-helicopter-lamprey/

    10 years development for a naval helicopter isnt too much??


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    Re: New Naval Helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  hoom on Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:47 am

    Thks for finding proper thread Smile

    10 yrs depends on what you compare with: If they get into service in 10yrs vs NH90/V-22 its positively break-neck speed.
    Even relatively trouble-free developments like AW101 took over 10yrs from first prototype flight to IOC.

    If part of 10yrs is low-funding/internally funded by Kamov it'd be pretty impressive I think.

    Hmm, apparently that 2nd pic is of Ka-92 which has been around since 2009 Embarassed

    Still seems like a pretty good concept though.

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    Re: New Naval Helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:57 am

    George1 wrote:
    In “Kamov” told about the new naval helicopter “Lamprey”

    In Kamov told about the new naval helicopter Lamprey.jpg" alt="Naval helicopter, developed in the framework of the ROC "Lamprey", will be ready in 10 years. This was stated in an interview with TASS General designer of firm "Kamov" Sergey Mikheev. On the establishment of prospective helicopter sea-based source in the defense Ministry announced in December 2015.

    Naval helicopter, developed in the framework of the ROC “Lamprey”, will be ready in 10 years. This was stated in an interview with TASS General designer of firm “Kamov” Sergey Mikheev.

    Mikheyev noted that the future machine will have the traditional Kamov design Bureau coaxial scheme. “There is no other option. I believe that the future of a coaxial circuit, due to characteristics of aerodynamics”, — he explained.

    Earlier, in December 2015, a source in the defense Ministry, revealing the cipher ROC “Lamprey”, noted that at that time it was a stage of the technical design were worked out the General layout of the helicopter, and various components and mechanisms.

    That the helicopter is in principle designed in the summer of 2015 was announced by the chief of the naval aviation of the Russian Navy Igor Kozhin, the General Director of Corporation “Helicopters of Russia” Alexander Mikheev. Kozhin, in particular, noted that the helicopter will be waiting by the 2018-2020 year.

    In 2009, materials of Corporation “Helicopters of Russia”, dedicated to the development of the range of military helicopters, mentioned prospective ship’s helicopter Ka-65. At that time the machine was intended to develop on the basis of the Ka-62 by 2020.

    At the moment the main carrier-based Navy helicopter is Ka-27, taken into service in 1981. It is developed on the basis of helicopter Ka-25. Available in two basic versions — anti-submarine (Ka-27PL) and search and rescue (Ka-27PS). He also established a transport and assault helicopter of the marine corps, the Ka-29 helicopter of radar-tracking patrol of Ka-31.
    http://rushincrash.com/forces/in-kamov-told-about-the-new-naval-helicopter-lamprey/

    10 years development for a naval helicopter isnt too much??

    Depends when will they get the ships down and operational? zero reason to shorten development if you won't have the ships anytime soon may has well go all out.

    Until they have a need to mass produce such choppers, huge development times aren't bad. Not like you will need the things anytime soon anyway.


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    Re: New Naval Helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:30 pm

    10 years for an helicopter? That's what it took for the AH-1. The upgrade from AH-1 to AH-1Z came also in about 10 years. About 8 yeard for AH-64...off course these are attack helicopters but still.

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    Re: New Naval Helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:42 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:10 years for an helicopter? That's what it took for the AH-1. The upgrade from AH-1 to AH-1Z came also in about 10 years. About 8 yeard for AH-64...off course these are attack helicopters but still.

    They just need to upscale Ka-226 and they are golden.

    And 10 years is decent timeframe, agreed on that.

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    Re: New Naval Helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:24 pm

    "The work on the new helicopter, codenamed the Lamprey, is underway. The technical shape of the machine has been coordinated and its main tactical and technical, economic and operational parameters have been determined. The prototype of the helicopter is expected to be ready after 2020," Chechikov told RIA Novosti in an interview.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201611021046982084-russia-lamprey-helicopter/


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    Re: New Naval Helicopter "Lamprey"

    Post  d_taddei2 on Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:53 am

    Militarov wrote:"Promising naval aviation helicopter, which is designed to shift the Ka-27, codenamed "the Lamprey". TASS I reported a source in the military-industrial complex. "This is a ship-based helicopter, which will be the next after the Ka-52K. The project was called "Lamprey"," — said the Agency interlocutor. According to the source, at the moment it's the stage of technical design: worked out the General layout of the helicopter, various assemblies and mechanisms. The source did not name the main tactical and technical characteristics of the new machine, saying only that it is "traditional Kamov's helicopters to the layout". The traditional scheme of helicopters of Kamov design Bureau the circuit with coaxial screws.



    In turn, another source in the industry said that the size of the helicopter the S. S. minnow and its takeoff weight will be less than that of the Ka-27 (he is 12 tons). Earlier, in August 2015, the head of naval aviation of the Russian Navy Igor Kozhin said that Russia has created a fundamentally new ship-based helicopter, which will be ready in 2018-2020. About creating the deck helicopter of the new generation in June 2015, also said "the Tape.ru" the General Director of Corporation "Helicopters of Russia" Alexander Mikheev. Deck-based helicopter Ka-27 entered service in 1981, he developed on the basis of helicopter Ka-25. At the moment he is the main ship by a helicopter of the Russian Navy. Produced in two versions — anti-submarine (Ka-P) and search and rescue (Ka-27PS). Also on its basis were created a transport and assault helicopter of the marine corps Ka-29 and radar picket helicopter Ka-31."


    Source: https://latestnewsresource.com/en/news/v-oboronke-rasskazali-o-sozdanii-novogo-korabelnogo-vertoleta-minoga

    River lamprey: (species after its named)


    just to add to picture looool Lamprey mouth.



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