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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:28 am

    Great news guys, new versions of the S-400 TEL will be 25% cheaper to produce, and 35% more fuel efficient thumbsup :

    "Aviation" modernized transport machine S-400

    Specifications are improved, and the cost decreased by 25%



    Scientific-Production Enterprise "Start" to them. AI Yaskina, part of the holding "Aviation" , has successfully completed testing of a new modification of the transport vehicle (TM) for the transport of missiles anti-aircraft missile system S-400.

    Thanks to new technological solutions NPP "Start" managed to reduce the cost of new TM 5T58-2 vers. 5 25% - from 11.6 million rubles to 8.7 million rubles, as well as a 35% cut in fuel consumption.

    An important advantage of 5T58-2 vers. 5 compared with the previous modifications - halving the load on the axle, which enables the system to the S-400 to move freely on all roads, including over rough terrain. The modernization of the tractor "BAZ" and semi "MWTP" Bryansk and plants Minsk, respectively, were replaced by similar machines that are produced at the plant "Ural" and ChMZAP. New equipment will reduce production costs 5T58-2 vers. 5 due to the difference in price and reduce transport costs, since NPP "Start" and factories - manufacturers of components are concentrated in the Urals Federal District.

    Thanks to technological solutions Ural designers managed to reduce operating costs and reduce by 35% in fuel consumption. Manufacturer "Ural" has a more developed service network in Russia, which increases efficiency with operators. Moreover, the production capacity of the plant will be able to provide timely delivery trucks in the right amount, which should have a positive impact on the execution of orders for the Defense Ministry already in production volumes.

    Now being coordinated construction documentation, and then transport the machine will be accepted for service and the "Start" to receive permission for its serial production. In the near future, new transport vehicles will start arriving in the Russian Army.

    Modernization 5T58-2 vers. 5 was carried out in 2013 at the expense of its own funds.

    http://rostec.ru/news/4513688

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  RTN on Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:43 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Great news guys, new versions of the S-400 TEL will be 25% cheaper to produce, and 35% more fuel efficient thumbsup :

    IIRC , Russian TELs have historically been cheaper to produce compared to Western analogues .

    The major question however will be whether the S 500 can intercept an ICBM like Topol or Minuteman III ?

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    Post  Werewolf on Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:40 pm

    RTN wrote:

    IIRC , Russian TELs have historically been cheaper to produce compared to Western analogues .

    The West and especially USA tends to overprice their equipment, like Abrams tanks more expensive than Leopard 2 tanks but are not even on par with them.

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    Post  RTN on Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:04 pm

    Werewolf wrote: The West and especially USA tends to overprice their equipment, like Abrams tanks more expensive than Leopard 2 tanks but are not even on par with them.

    The cost of living in the US is a lot lower than the cost of living in Europe .

    When I was in Moscow last year my credit card maxed out in just a week . In most US cities it would have lasted for at least 15 days and I wasn't even trying to live in posh areas.

    Also , both the Leopard 2 and M1A2 uses the 120 mm smoothbore gun, designed by Rheinmetall AG

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:40 pm

    RTN wrote:
    Werewolf wrote: The West and especially USA tends to overprice their equipment, like Abrams tanks more expensive than Leopard 2 tanks but are not even on par with them.

    The cost of living in the US is a lot lower than the cost of living in Europe .

    When I was in Moscow last year my credit card maxed out in just a week . In most US cities it would have lasted for at least 15 days and I wasn't even trying to live in posh areas.

    Also , both the Leopard 2 and M1A2 uses the 120 mm smoothbore gun, designed by Rheinmetall AG

    But defense enterprises run off of a cost + 10% basis in most cases. So they can make more money is they spends more money, and hence, their equipment comes out at overpriced. Even the gadgets in US are heavily overpriced. So even if cost of living in US is cheaper than Europe, price of goods are heavily over inflated, but may be seen as cheap because most of the products are made elsewhere. Defense products on the other hands, may come from other companies from around the world, but most is made in USA as a way to prevent any issues with manufacturing and availability.

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:30 am

    RTN wrote:
    Werewolf wrote: The West and especially USA tends to overprice their equipment, like Abrams tanks more expensive than Leopard 2 tanks but are not even on par with them.

    The cost of living in the US is a lot lower than the cost of living in Europe .

    When I was in Moscow last year my credit card maxed out in just a week . In most US cities it would have lasted for at least 15 days and I wasn't even trying to live in posh areas.

    Also , both the Leopard 2 and M1A2 uses the 120 mm smoothbore gun, designed by Rheinmetall AG

    Moscow is one of the most expensive cities in the world- if you don't know where to shop.
    For average citizens it is most certainly not more expensive to live than in any major US center.

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    Post  Mike E on Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:32 am

    RTN wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Great news guys, new versions of the S-400 TEL will be 25% cheaper to produce, and 35% more fuel efficient thumbsup :

    IIRC , Russian TELs have historically been cheaper to produce compared to Western analogues .

    The major question however will be whether the S 500 can intercept an ICBM like Topol or Minuteman III ?

    Minuteman 3? That thing dates all the way back to the 60s. 

    It can't perform advanced maneuvers, and can only deploy decoys, chaff etc.

    More advanced ICBMs, like the RS-24 and Topol-M, would prove a much more "competitive" adversary. Those are Russian missiles, so unless they fire upon themselves...

    That being said, the only way to find out is wait and see the final product.

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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:59 am



    Russia advantage is that they have very modern state of the art Air and space defenses like S-400 and S-500 ,but also very modern
    and state of the art ICBMs .that only have months in service. So they can test their own air defenses with their own ballictic manuevarable warheads. Russia also have Kinetic projectiles with a small nuclear warhead in case their first defenses fail. So any Minuteman 3 launched from a submarine will need to bypass hundreds of S-400s or S-500s missiles attacks. And probably EMP attacks too that Russia have. before reach moscow and their nuclear defenses activate.

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:35 am

    IIRC , Russian TELs have historically been cheaper to produce compared to Western analogues .

    Much much cheaper, because there are no western analogs.

    The major question however will be whether the S 500 can intercept an ICBM like Topol or Minuteman III ?

    It should be able to intercept standard MIRV warheads (from no matter what the missile it is launched/delivered from). It will have problems intercepting MARV warheads designed to evade ABM systems... which the S-500 is.

    BTW the Abrams uses a standard length German 120mm gun, a Belgian coaxial MG (FN MAG), and British designed armour... although a very heavy user of fuel, and a bit of a heavyweight vehicle it is a very good tank for the US and its needs and it generally does an excellent job at killing the enemy and protecting its crew.


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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:56 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    IIRC , Russian TELs have historically been cheaper to produce compared to Western analogues .

    Much much cheaper, because there are no western analogs.
    .

    Especially considering what you could potentially lose if you don't have a modern and advanced IAD, the costs of such losses are orders of magnitude greater.

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  collegeboy16 on Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:54 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Russia advantage is that they have very modern state of the art  Air and space defenses like S-400 and S-500 ,but also very modern
    and state of the art ICBMs .that only have months in service. So they can test their own air defenses with their own ballictic manuevarable warheads. Russia also have Kinetic projectiles with a small nuclear warhead in case their first defenses fail.  So any Minuteman 3 launched from a submarine will need to bypass hundreds of S-400s or S-500s missiles attacks. And probably EMP attacks too that Russia have. before reach moscow and their nuclear defenses activate.
    dont forget s-300v4. they have iskander to test against it, so its the best of its class.

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    Post  Viktor on Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:09 pm

    Lots of news from Almaz-Antey report from 2013

    Activities Concern PVO "Almaz-Antey" in 2013




    Scientific and technological activities.
    In 2013, the Company executed 13 OCD OCD MF 9 and 3 R & D, of which 11 OCD and 2 R & D Company was the main executor. Among the main areas:
    - the development of a universal anti-aircraft missile system, long-range
    "Triumphant-M" [ C -500 ];
    - improvement of anti-aircraft missile system 40R6 [ C -400 ];
    - improvement of the RTC 181m [ rocket-technical complex modernized system Moscow ABM ]
    - creation of multichannel mnogorubezhnoy modular antiaircraft missile and artillery systems (ZK96 shipborne.)
    in 2013 successfully completed and accepted by the Russian Defense Ministry commissions materials conceptual design for OCD completed state testing; fully implemented the program-fire and flight testing samples of weapons under development. Funds allocated in accordance with the SDO to work in 2013, mastered in full.


    military-technical cooperation.
    Works Company in 2013. MTC carried out in the interests of 14 foreign customers. This, along with the work carried out under previously signed contracts (agreements), in 2013 launched a full-scale deployment of new works on the 6-signed contracts (JSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "- 2, of" Rosoboronexport "- 3, of "Tactical Missiles Corporation" - 1). Program of export contracts in 2013 has been fully implemented.
    MTC with foreign countries carried out to develop (training materials) complex improvement projects (creation) defense based on automated control systems (ACS) and automation means (KSA).




    Prospects of development of the Company.
    - holding modernization funds previously supplied S-300PMU1 to the level of performance of S-300PMU2 (SPVO "Favorite"), complex "Calm" to "Calm 1" complex "Mosquito-E" to "Mosquito-MBE," complex " Kashmir "into a complex" Calm 1 ";
    - stepping up the promotion of the international market ASU "Baikal 1ME" KSA "Structural-ME", "Structural-MAE";
    - intensification of work on the development of export documentation on promising means of defense including SAM "polyment-Redoute", "bending",
    - R & D to create a system developed in order to improve the efficiency of command and control aircraft and air defense, the main focus of work is to conduct preliminary tests (PI), a prototype area, updating the RKD , the implementation of the comments and recommendations of the PI, the yield on state tests and their implementation.
    - participation in the creation of the system of air and space defense of the Russian Federation in order to enhance the capabilities to fight aerospace adversary.
    - continuation of work related to the organization of the Federal Target program "Development of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation for 2011-2020" in part "Modernisation to create a basic simulation and modeling complex to test and debug network-centric control methods in complex technical systems", which should enable us to raise to a new qualitative level of development a number of important trends in the development of ACS and CSA military.



    JSC "Nizhny Novgorod Machine Building Plant"

    Proceeds from the sale of goods, works and services in 2013 increased by 77.6% as compared with 2012. Sales volume of "NMP" in 2013 under the state defense order amounted to 46.8%, through the special products - 47.2%, in line civil products - 6.0%.
    Development work
    general extent of development work ( OCD) in 2013 compared with 2012 increased by 12%. The following works:
    • qualification tests conducted and the mass production of products "Niobium" [radar 55ZH6U];
    • documentation and developed a conceptual model sample collector is made ​​with fiber optic rotary joint for the modernization of defense products;
    • Completed development of CD products defense export options;
    • the work is done on the survey antenna systems such as MSW under contract with "Corporation" Comet ";
    • development of an explanatory note on the theme: "Development proposals for the production of slewing devices such as TNA and THA-57-9, as well as mirror systems to them for create a stationary antenna complexes based, including marine (ship);
    • developed CD on power system BOT-NN.


    planned in 2014:
    • participation in the development of export options KD defense products;
    • perform remediation products TNA-57;
    • participation in the implementation of R & D to product "Niobium NE";
    • work on modernization GTC antenna device M200A;
    • preliminary testing of the power supply BOT-NN;
    • participation in the implementation of R & D on defense modernization products;
    • Development and production of CD samples modernized TNA- 57.





    Special products (export)
    The main directions of foreign economic activity of the enterprise, according to the following types of products: the export of defense contracts with JSC "Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "ZIPov to ed. "2A70" under contract with JSC "Kurganmashzavod."
    In 2013, the main work of the plant, in the interests of exports carried by JSC "Concern" PVO "Almaz-Antey" the two major contracts for the benefit of foreign customers for the supply of products and components. In the interests of a foreign customer property shipped in full. Also in 2013, have been concluded and implemented export contracts. Delivery directly contracts with JSC "Rosoboronexport" did not materialize.
    in 2013. had contracts with JSC "Kurganmashzavod" to supply ZIPov to "2A70". In term of "NMP" plans to participate in the execution of contracts for the supply of air defense products "2A70" in finalizing ed. "2A70" to ZIPov ed. "2A70" for foreign customers.



    Machine-Building Plant named after Mikhail Kalinin, Bratislava
    Nomenclature produced armaments and military equipment
    - the means of combat air defense missile system S-300VM (B4)
    - ORDNANCE antiaircraft missile system "Buk-M2" tracked and wheeled chassis
    - the means of combat air defense missile system "Buk-M3";
    - tools and equipment for anti-submarine and anti-ship missiles for the Navy;
    - manufacture of parts and assembly units for anti-aircraft missiles;
    - manufacture of rollers for crawler chassis family "GM" air defense missile system "Buk" and its modifications.



    Results 2013:
    - to ensure the development of products manufacturing systems "Buk-M2 (M3)" AAMS "Antey-2500", AAMS S300V4 design documentation and completion of jobs held automated controls Zour, developed hardware - software complex for PSI Repair Homepage automation;
    - put into production complex "Buk-M3";
    - upgraded drive CMU means complex "Buk-M2" ;
    - documentation tools designed complex "Buk-M2" for SDO considering the introduction of promising developments in the "Buk-M3";
    - CD developed for products 9A316E [ pre-loading of the SAM "Buk-M2E" ] 9P331EK wheeled chassis [ launcher installation of fire-propelled installation 9A317 9K317 SAM "Buk-M2" ] $
    - developed and put into production by replacing the CD element base a previous product systems "Buk-M2"; "Antey-2500"; C-300V4.




    military-technical cooperation
    in 2013, military-technical cooperation of the Company carried out in several ways:
    - completion and delivery of products to prisoners with JSC "Rosoboronexport" commission agreements;
    - works on contracts for the manufacture of products for export to the JSC " Concern PVO "Almaz - Antey";
    - perform under the ROC to establish a wheeled version SAM "Buk-M2E."






    And two other most interesting links

    Activities Concern PVO "Almaz-Antey" in 2013: Pilot production, GSTSO "Granite" and MZRIP

    Activities Concern PVO "Almaz-Antey" in 2013: LACA, SDO, ZRTO




    Well so many things to analyze and so little time ...  Very Happy 

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  Austin on Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:37 pm

    So BUK-M3 is gone into production in 2013 interesting.

    So goes for Antey-2500 and S-300V4

    S-500 is called "Triumphant-M"


    Improving the anti-missile system 40R6 [C -400];
    - Improvement of the RTC 181m [rocket-technical complex modernized Moscow ABM system];

    Also improving 40N6 Anti-Missile system wonder what it could be ?

    RTC 181M corresponds to which rocket ? A-135 or A-235 ?

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    Post  Mike E on Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:01 pm

    RTC 181M is the A-235 Samolet-M, according to other forum sites.

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    Post  dino00 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:11 am

    Russia successfully test-launches long-range interceptor missile able to hit up to ten ballistic targets


    Russia has successfully test-launched a long-range interceptor missile which will be brought into service of a promising air defense missile system S-500, ITAR-TASS reports on Monday.

    "Test-launches were made in late June. All goals and tasks set within this event were fulfilled completely," the source noted.
    He noted that air defense system-producing concern Almaz-Antey was developing an air defense missile system of new generation S-500 fully in line with the deadlines set in the state-funded armament program until 2020.
    According to open sources, S-500 will be able to detect and hit simultaneously up to ten ballistic targets flying with a speed of up to seven kilometers per second and warheads of hypersound cruise missiles.
    Air defense missile system S-500 combat capabilities are planned to surpass air defense missile system S-400 Triumf currently in combat service and its US rival - a defense missile system RAS-3, the latest model of air defense missile system Patriot.

    http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_07/Russia-successfully-test-launches-long-range-interceptor-missile-able-to-hit-up-to-ten-ballistic-targets-1363/

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:56 pm

    dino00 wrote:Russia successfully test-launches long-range interceptor missile able to hit up to ten ballistic targets


    Russia has successfully test-launched a long-range interceptor missile which will be brought into service of a promising air defense missile system S-500, ITAR-TASS reports on Monday.

    "Test-launches were made in late June. All goals and tasks set within this event were fulfilled completely," the source noted.
    He noted that air defense system-producing concern Almaz-Antey was developing an air defense missile system of new generation S-500 fully in line with the deadlines set in the state-funded armament program until 2020.
    According to open sources, S-500 will be able to detect and hit simultaneously up to ten ballistic targets flying with a speed of up to seven kilometers per second and warheads of hypersound cruise missiles.
    Air defense missile system S-500 combat capabilities are planned to surpass air defense missile system S-400 Triumf currently in combat service and its US rival - a defense missile system RAS-3, the latest model of air defense missile system Patriot.

    http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_07/Russia-successfully-test-launches-long-range-interceptor-missile-able-to-hit-up-to-ten-ballistic-targets-1363/

    So it's official, S-500 can now intercept war heads flying at Mach 20.57, up to 10 at a time...the real question is that per TEL or per Battery. If it's per battery that's great, if it's per TEL that's simply amazing! I'm leaning more that it's per battery.

    I'm guessing that S-500 missile warheads were either HE or Kinetic which is excellent, a nuclear tipped version would definitely have even superior performance than those conventional warheads, but of course Russia signed the nuclear testing ban treaty so testing those warheads aren't really an option.

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    Post  medo on Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:47 pm

    dino00 wrote:Russia successfully test-launches long-range interceptor missile able to hit up to ten ballistic targets


    Russia has successfully test-launched a long-range interceptor missile which will be brought into service of a promising air defense missile system S-500, ITAR-TASS reports on Monday.

    "Test-launches were made in late June. All goals and tasks set within this event were fulfilled completely," the source noted.
    He noted that air defense system-producing concern Almaz-Antey was developing an air defense missile system of new generation S-500 fully in line with the deadlines set in the state-funded armament program until 2020.
    According to open sources, S-500 will be able to detect and hit simultaneously up to ten ballistic targets flying with a speed of up to seven kilometers per second and warheads of hypersound cruise missiles.
    Air defense missile system S-500 combat capabilities are planned to surpass air defense missile system S-400 Triumf currently in combat service and its US rival - a defense missile system RAS-3, the latest model of air defense missile system Patriot.

    http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_07/Russia-successfully-test-launches-long-range-interceptor-missile-able-to-hit-up-to-ten-ballistic-targets-1363/

    Excellent. So now is S-500 missile officially in testing. I wonder, when they will show the prototype of S-500.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:08 pm

    medo wrote:
    dino00 wrote:Russia successfully test-launches long-range interceptor missile able to hit up to ten ballistic targets


    Russia has successfully test-launched a long-range interceptor missile which will be brought into service of a promising air defense missile system S-500, ITAR-TASS reports on Monday.

    "Test-launches were made in late June. All goals and tasks set within this event were fulfilled completely," the source noted.
    He noted that air defense system-producing concern Almaz-Antey was developing an air defense missile system of new generation S-500 fully in line with the deadlines set in the state-funded armament program until 2020.
    According to open sources, S-500 will be able to detect and hit simultaneously up to ten ballistic targets flying with a speed of up to seven kilometers per second and warheads of hypersound cruise missiles.
    Air defense missile system S-500 combat capabilities are planned to surpass air defense missile system S-400 Triumf currently in combat service and its US rival - a defense missile system RAS-3, the latest model of air defense missile system Patriot.

    http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_07/Russia-successfully-test-launches-long-range-interceptor-missile-able-to-hit-up-to-ten-ballistic-targets-1363/

    Excellent. So now is S-500 missile officially in testing. I wonder, when they will show the prototype of S-500.

    How many Russian SAM's are capable of intercepting ballistic targets? Here's the ones I know off the top of my head: The new Pantsir being developed is capable of intercepting ballistic targets (on the lower envelopes of hypersonic speed), Buk-M3 will be able to intercept ballistic targets flying at 3 km/s or Mach 8.8, the S-400 is capable of engaging targets flying at 5 km/s or Mach 14.7, and now finally S-500 is capable of intercepting ballistic targets flying at 7 km/s or Mach 20.6...that's pretty damn amazing! Is there any others that I forgot to mention?

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    Post  medo on Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:52 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    medo wrote:
    dino00 wrote:Russia successfully test-launches long-range interceptor missile able to hit up to ten ballistic targets


    Russia has successfully test-launched a long-range interceptor missile which will be brought into service of a promising air defense missile system S-500, ITAR-TASS reports on Monday.

    "Test-launches were made in late June. All goals and tasks set within this event were fulfilled completely," the source noted.
    He noted that air defense system-producing concern Almaz-Antey was developing an air defense missile system of new generation S-500 fully in line with the deadlines set in the state-funded armament program until 2020.
    According to open sources, S-500 will be able to detect and hit simultaneously up to ten ballistic targets flying with a speed of up to seven kilometers per second and warheads of hypersound cruise missiles.
    Air defense missile system S-500 combat capabilities are planned to surpass air defense missile system S-400 Triumf currently in combat service and its US rival - a defense missile system RAS-3, the latest model of air defense missile system Patriot.

    http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_07/Russia-successfully-test-launches-long-range-interceptor-missile-able-to-hit-up-to-ten-ballistic-targets-1363/

    Excellent. So now is S-500 missile officially in testing. I wonder, when they will show the prototype of S-500.

    How many Russian SAM's are capable of intercepting ballistic targets? Here's the ones I know off the top of my head: The new Pantsir being developed is capable of intercepting ballistic targets (on the lower envelopes of hypersonic speed), Buk-M3 will be able to intercept ballistic targets flying at 3 km/s or Mach 8.8, the S-400 is capable of engaging targets flying at 5 km/s or Mach 14.7, and now finally S-500 is capable of intercepting ballistic targets flying at 7 km/s or Mach 20.6...that's pretty damn amazing! Is there any others that I forgot to mention?

    There are different ballistic targets, from Grad rocket to ICBM. Pantsir and Tor could intercept small ballistic targets. Buk-M1-2 and M2 could intercept ballistic targets with speed to 1,5 km/s, S-300V and S-300PMU2 could intercept ballistic targets with speed to 3 km/s, S-300V4 and S-400 could intercept ballistic targets to speed 4,8 km/s and S-500 to speed 7 km/s. We will see, what capabilities will have S-350, but I think S-350 could have at least same capabilities like S-300PMU2 with 3 km/s. but could as well 4,8 km/s as S-400, considering S-400 also use those missiles. Depend on radar and its limitations.

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    Post  TR1 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:48 pm

    Yeah I don't see what little Pantsir would do to any serious sized ballistic weapon. Not with the current missile.

    I am guessing the capability is more aimed at intercepting MLRS precision munitions or the like.

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    Post  Viktor on Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:16 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:So it's official, S-500 can now intercept war heads flying at Mach 20.57, up to 10 at a time...the real question is that per TEL or per Battery. If it's per battery that's great, if it's per TEL that's simply amazing! I'm leaning more that it's per battery.

    First: Only missile was tested not the whole system but nevertheless very important event took place today

    Second: Smallest operational unit is battery so whenever you hear that something guides x missiles on y targets it it is referred to battery or or even bigger regiment even in case
               TELAR within battery can search and guide missiles on their own they are still talking about battery unless specially specified.



    magnumcromagnon wrote:I'm guessing that S-500 missile warheads were either HE or Kinetic which is excellent, a nuclear tipped version would definitely have even superior performance than those conventional warheads, but of course Russia signed the nuclear testing ban treaty so testing those warheads aren't really an option.

    about 400 nuclear tipped surface to air missiles exists today within Russian PVO Very Happy as I read and those warheads are really an excellent option mainly for breaking up

    huge ECM and huge enemy fighter formations.

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    Post  Sujoy on Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:39 am

    I am wondering how safe are Russian Missile Defense from a Cyber Attack .

    The Pentagon has released a report saying US Missile Defenses are vulnerable to a Cyber Attack

    http://itsecuritynews.info/2014/07/08/pentagon-confirms-that-missile-defenses-are-vulnerable-to-cyber-attack/

    Suffice , to say that both the U.S and China have the intention of carrying out cyber attacks against Russia .

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    Post  Arrow on Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:37 pm

    So it was a test a new 77N6 missile ?

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:58 pm

    Chinese state television confirms S-500's stellar performance:

    Chinese media: Russian S-500 anti-missile system is well above the Patriot

    According to the Chinese television network CCTV, in 2020 Russia will have a weapon whose parameters all have passed all the latest developments in U.S. missile defense. This is the S-500 missiles capable of shooting down hypersonic system.

    Under heavy U.S. pressure, which does not cease to develop new missile systems, Russia has also accelerated the development and adoption of anti-aircraft systems, the most promising of which is the S-500, whose tests were successfully concluded in late June, recalls the recent report of CCTV . features really impact system. Russian media say that the S-500 exceeds in all respects to the latest Patriot anti-missile systems 3 and THAAD Americans, being able to easily shoot down the U.S. new hypersonic missiles the project Prompt Global Strike (Fast Global or PGS attack, for its acronym in English). According to Itar-Tass , the missile system S-500 may be adopted by the Russian Army before 2020. The S-500 is a system surface-to-air new generation designed to intercept intercontinental ballistic missile systems, airborne early warning and control and electronic warfare systems such as the Boeing EA-18G Growler. With a wide range of missiles 600 km range, the S-500 could separately detect and destroy ballistic and cruise missiles and low-orbit satellites and hypersonic missile warheads (with speed of over Mach 5) in the end of his career. The system is equipped with a new type of high powered AESA radar. The detection range of the radar ranges between 800 and 900 kilometers, which is 150-200 kilometers which the S-400, currently in service . Furthermore, the S-500 radar can simultaneously follow targets 10 hypersonic flying at a speed of 7 km / s, just the speed of hypersonic cruise missile Boeing X-51, the speed range varies from 1 to 7 miles per second.

    Complete text en: http://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/view/133513-china-antimisiles-s500-patriot-rusia?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome


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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:18 pm

    Really?

    S-300 is already superior to any Patriot system, not even counting S-400.

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