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    S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  Austin on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:04 pm

    Some news on Air Defence Development from interview

    The range of heavenly protection
    http://www.redstar.ru/index.php/2011-07-25-15-55-32/item/8594-diapazon-nebesnoj-zashchity

    With regard to future developments, which confer special troops ASD hope, in the first place is important to us timely creation and direction adopted the S-500 and "Hero".

    The S-500 is a new generation of anti-aircraft missile systems and is a universal set of long-range and high-altitude interception with increased potential missile defense system capable of intercepting warheads of ballistic missiles flying at a speed of 7 km / s. Prospective AAMS will be capable of hitting not only ballistic missiles, but also hypersonic, as well as aerodynamic targets (aircraft, helicopters and other air targets).

    Medium-range air defense missile systems "Vityaz" is going to replace the legendary "trehsotki." Thanks to the new principles of construction AAMS significantly increased its military capability as the spatial capabilities and performance objectives and types destroyed. Home of serial deliveries are expected in the near future.

    Fifth Ocean - under control
    http://www.redstar.ru/index.php/2011-07-25-15-55-32/item/8595-pyatyj-okean-pod-kontrolem

    Developed and produced samples of promising AME will provide the technical basis for the re-equipment of the troops with weapons and create a period from 2015 to 2020 integrated radar system able to fend off the threat of facial features air and space attack, including made by technology " stealth. "

    As for the anti-aircraft missile system S-500, it is definitely clear that it is entrusted with the solution of a number of new weapons for this class of problems, primarily related to ensuring the defeat of both existing and future air and space attacks, including in near space.

    In this anti-aircraft missile system is supposed to apply the principle of separation tasks destroy ballistic and aerodynamic purposes. The main task of the complex - the struggle with the combat equipment of medium-range ballistic missiles and, if necessary, and intercontinental ballistic missiles in the terminal phase of flight and, within certain limits, in the middle section.

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:03 am

    Which suggests the Mig-31 replacement will be the likely aerial platform for these S-500 based AAMs...

    Interesting.


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    Post  Austin on Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:44 am

    GarryB wrote:Which suggests the Mig-31 replacement will be the likely aerial platform for these S-500 based AAMs...

    Interesting.

    Where are they talking about S-500 AAM ?

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    Post  gaurav on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:32 pm


    Which suggests the Mig-31 replacement will be the likely aerial platform for these S-500
    This S-500 is confusing... Rolling Eyes

    Secrecy and possible(intented )delays not helping the matters..

    What is the meaning of "AME" .. in this article

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:35 am

    Prospective AAMS will be capable of hitting not only ballistic missiles, but also hypersonic, as well as aerodynamic targets (aircraft, helicopters and other air targets).

    The head of Almaz Antei has already said that the next generation ABM missiles will be air launched.


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    Post  medo on Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:15 pm

    I more think next generation ABM missiles will be launched from air, ground and sea. Ground based SAM S-500 missile could be basic missile for all, Mig-31 replacement, S-500 and naval system for modernized Kirov cruiser or new class destroyer.

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    Post  ali.a.r on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:21 am

    Might be a silly question, but how are the missiles in the S-400s and S-300s arranged? I mean like the S-400 has three main missiles (that I know of), and each launcher has four launch tubes (if thats even the right word). Does each launcher carry, like, two 40N6's and two 48N6's or do have a standard loadout (like all four tubes carry 40N6's), and the other missiles are loaded are as required. Or do the different launchers in the battery, carry different missiles loadouts, and the launcher(s) with the appropriate missiles engage as required?


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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:52 am

    The different missiles would be deployed as required and it would simply be the case that as each battery connects to the network it will indicate to the Integrated Air Defence Network where it is, what it can see and what it has in terms of ready to launch missiles. The battle management system will then determine which launcher will engage which target with which weapon during an engagement. Of course tactics might come in to it too where long range missiles will only be used against long range targets.


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    Post  medo on Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:37 pm

    I think division (battalion) is the main unit for S-400, which have radar complex + 8 launchers. It could have 2 launchers equipped with 40N6 long range missiles, 4 launchers with 48N6 "medium" range missiles and finally 2 launchers with "short" range 9M96 missiles. It also have protection from Pantsir Platoon. So different targets, different missiles.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:40 am

    The 9M96 short range missiles are especially designed for when there is no extra battery of small missiles to protect the S-400 battery, so that with a couple of tubes it can defend itself.


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    Post  Austin on Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:06 pm

    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130424/934250446.html

    Ostapenko said that at present, work is continuing on the creation of ground-based air defense "Hero". "Hero" - a tool that will significantly outperform the S-300. Even the fact that the guide will be 12 instead of 4 as it is now - it is almost three times the increase firepower, "- said the general.


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    Post  Austin on Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:08 pm

    Defense does not dream about the S-500 system
    http://vpk-news.ru/news/15667

    Work on the creation of a new anti-aircraft missile system S-500 generation is actively underway, the Russian Defense Ministry hopes to get her into service on time, said Deputy Defense Minister, Colonel-General Oleg Ostapenko.

    "This system is designed to deal with future air and space attack, in particular, hypersonic, as well as other means possible impact on us," - said O.Ostapenko reporters.

    According O.Ostapenko, "it means defense has a great future." The works are on schedule, he added.

    "Not everything comes easy. At the same time, we are working very hard on this with the chief designer and CEO, understanding is. We hope that we stacked graphs ", - said O.Ostapenko.

    Answering the question of whether a system S-500 in 2015, he said: "We always want to make it before."

    Earlier it was reported that under the state armaments program until 2020 purchase of 10 new battalions of air defense missile systems S-500. They will form the basis of Air and Space Defense, which is established in Russia.

    S-500 is a system of long-range and high-altitude interception with increased potential missile defense.

    According to the Defense Ministry, the basic requirements for the S-500 - the realization of increased capacity to defeat ballistic targets (medium range ballistic missiles, tactical and operational-tactical ballistic missiles) with a height of up to 200 km interception and flight speed to 7 km / s, as well as the possibility of destroying warheads hypersonic cruise missiles. In addition, provided the destruction of low-orbit satellites and space-based weapons.

    C-500 is a new generation of anti-aircraft missile systems, which is supposed to apply the principle of separate tasks destroy ballistic and aerodynamic purposes. The main objective of the S-500 - the struggle with the combat equipment of medium-range ballistic missiles and, if necessary, and intercontinental ballistic missiles in the terminal phase and, to a certain extent, in the middle section.

    It is planned that the C-500 will provide cover specific regions, cities, industrial facilities and priority strategic objectives.

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    Post  medo on Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:51 pm

    Good news that development of new systems is active. I hope we will soon see prototypes of Morfei, Vityaz and S-500.

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    Post  Viktor on Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:03 pm

    - Morfei will be finished in 2015

    - Vityaz will be finished probably in 2015 or before

    - interesting thing is that each TEL/TELAR of Vityaz system will 12 missiles not just 4 as in S-300.

    - Vityaz is much more powerful system than S-300

    - my guess is that we might be not talking about 9M96 series of missiles but that remains to be seen



    The complex air defense "Morpheus" will be adopted in 2015



    Earlier Ashurbeyli Igor, who headed up the company in 2011, the developer "Morpheus" (lead system design bureau "Almaz-Antey") reported in an interview with RIA Novosti that the enacting of the complex is scheduled for 2013.


    MOSCOW, April 24 - RIA Novosti. latest range of defense "Morpheus" ultra low-rise will be adopted by the Russian Army in 2015, told reporters Wednesday, Deputy Defense Minister, Colonel-General Oleg Ostapenko.
    Earlier Ashurbeyli Igor, who led until 2011 the company-developer of "Morpheus" (lead system design bureau "Almaz-Antey") reported in an interview with RIA Novosti that enacting this complex is planned for 2013 .


    "Morpheus" - is generally unique product, unique in the world no. I think that the first samples of somewhere in the region of 2015 entered service "- said Ostapenko. According to the Defense Ministry, the maximum firing range" Morpheus "- 5 kilometers. This system is designed to shield military sites and has both active and passive means of combat (combat vehicles and radars).

    Ostapenko said that at present, work is continuing on the creation of ground-based air defense "Hero". "Hero" - a tool that will significantly outperform the S-300. Even the fact that the guide will be 12 instead of 4 as it is now - it is almost three times the increase firepower, "- said the general.



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    Post  medo on Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:23 pm

    They could as well be 9M96 or their upgraded variants. Don't forget, that in place of one S-300 missile, you could place four 9M96 missiles, so it is not impossible to have 12 such missiles on truck.

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    Post  Viktor on Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:35 am

    medo wrote:They could as well be 9M96 or their upgraded variants. Don't forget, that in place of one S-300 missile, you could place four 9M96 missiles, so it is not impossible to have 12 such missiles on truck.

    We will see. No one knows for sure.

    Interesting line about Vityaz. As is being said before it is a logical step as it is intended to repel saturation attacks.

    In particular, according to available information, the "Knight" has increased significantly the number of destination channels, allowing you to simultaneously fire a greater number of targets, also expanded opportunities for maneuver.

    LINK



    Because of that I think we can formulate basic concepts and requirements around which Vityaz will have.

    That as more information is revealed as time passes we can add or drop some of them but I think this is it - fell free to add:

    - TELAR instead of TEL

    - 12 missiles per TELAR (instead of 4 missiles for S-300)

    - different type of missiles for same TELAR

    - significantly increased number of destination channels in comparison with previous systems

    - Excellent strategic and tactical mobility

    - 360° coverage

    - Detection of "stealth" targets

    - AESA radar (search and shooting)

    - Versions for Army PVO and territorial PVO

    - Deployment time 5 min or less

    - excellent low level radar coverage (20 min mast are in development for some time now)

    - Ability to shoot down tactical ballistic missiles

    - Possibly new generation of missiles (covering 150+km ranges)

    - Possibly shooting from the movement

    - Absolute ability to integrate with all present and future Russian ELINT/ECM systems



    Austin wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Which suggests the Mig-31 replacement will be the likely aerial platform for these S-500 based AAMs...

    Interesting.

    Where are they talking about S-500 AAM ?

    Found it. Very Happy

    Igor Arshavin former director of Almaz-Antej meant something else.

    - Today you looked at tomorrow defense-PRO-EKO?
    - And what is there to look. I think that is now in the range of land development firepower EKR exhaustive. In addition to these funds and their subsequent upgrades, the other on the earth will be gone.
    - I mean ...?
    - That is the following weapon systems are not land-based and air. The following systems, which will appear after the C-500 will be airborne.
    Some of them are also already being developed and tested.


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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:02 pm

    S-300 is a very good missile system, but a requirement that it kills large strategic bombers means it needs a huge warhead. This in turn means a lot of rocket fuel is needed to get it up to speed and to carry it to distant targets.

    With Vityaz, a smaller warhead can be used by making guidance and controls more precise and accurate so the warhead is delivered more effectively. The smaller warhead means less fuel and a smaller missile, which means less drag etc etc in a circle of weight and size reduction.

    Smaller lighter missiles are generally cheaper and can be operated in larger numbers.

    I would suspect for the Air Force the Vityaz will have a large box structure holding missiles horizontally on a truck base and when operational will rotate that box 90 degrees for vertical launch to allow targets from any direction to be engaged rapidly. The longer slimmer missiles should allow 12 tubes per truck, but the article is talking about an increase in firepower through the increase in guidance channels allowing more targets to be engaged at one time.

    It is the lack of guidance channels that allows NATO to defeat old model Soviet SAMs with cruise missile attacks.

    The Morfei missile is rather interesting and should be a small compact missile with an IIR seeker with lock on after launch capability that will be used across the services... the Air Force will likely use it as an AAM for helos and stealth fighters as an anti missile missile. I could also be used by AF ground forces to defend airfields and command centres. The Army will likely directly replace the SA-9 and SA-13 IR SAMs, but such missiles might be useful in light brigades as self defence systems, while the Navy can of course use them as CIWS because each missile will be able to engage a target itself so overwhelming a Russian Ship might become rather more difficult.

    Beyond this, the Navy might also deploy them on its submarines where the lock on after launch capability means that they can be fired up from a submerged sub to engage enemy MPA and helos flying low (detected by Sonar equipment as noise from above), while deep bunkers could use them to defend themselves from bunker busters. Most bunker buster weapons need to penetrate the ground before exploding, so a SAM that hits the weapon above the ground should be able to destabilise it before impact with the ground resulting in very poor performance in defeating deeply buried targets.


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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:54 pm

    Are Russian SAMs equipped with thermobaric warheads and if no would such a thing work?

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    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:55 pm

    GarryB wrote:S-300 is a very good missile system, but a requirement that it kills large strategic bombers means it needs a huge warhead. This in turn means a lot of rocket fuel is needed to get it up to speed and to carry it to distant targets.

    With Vityaz, a smaller warhead can be used by making guidance and controls more precise and accurate so the warhead is delivered more effectively. The smaller warhead means less fuel and a smaller missile, which means less drag etc etc in a circle of weight and size reduction.

    Smaller lighter missiles are generally cheaper and can be operated in larger numbers.

    I would suspect for the Air Force the Vityaz will have a large box structure holding missiles horizontally on a truck base and when operational will rotate that box 90 degrees for vertical launch to allow targets from any direction to be engaged rapidly. The longer slimmer missiles should allow 12 tubes per truck, but the article is talking about an increase in firepower through the increase in guidance channels allowing more targets to be engaged at one time.

    It is the lack of guidance channels that allows NATO to defeat old model Soviet SAMs with cruise missile attacks.

    The Morfei missile is rather interesting and should be a small compact missile with an IIR seeker with lock on after launch capability that will be used across the services... the Air Force will likely use it as an AAM for helos and stealth fighters as an anti missile missile. I could also be used by AF ground forces to defend airfields and command centres. The Army will likely directly replace the SA-9 and SA-13 IR SAMs, but such missiles might be useful in light brigades as self defence systems, while the Navy can of course use them as CIWS because each missile will be able to engage a target itself so overwhelming a Russian Ship might become rather more difficult.

    Beyond this, the Navy might also deploy them on its submarines where the lock on after launch capability means that they can be fired up from a submerged sub to engage enemy MPA and helos flying low (detected by Sonar equipment as noise from above), while deep bunkers could use them to defend themselves from bunker busters. Most bunker buster weapons need to penetrate the ground before exploding, so a SAM that hits the weapon above the ground should be able to destabilise it before impact with the ground resulting in very poor performance in defeating deeply buried targets.
    Speaking of the morphei , are there any pictures of how exactly the missiles should look or is it top secret like the S-500?

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    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:45 am

    GarryB wrote:
    With Vityaz, a smaller warhead can be used by making guidance and controls more precise and accurate so the warhead is delivered more effectively. The smaller warhead means less fuel and a smaller missile, which means less drag etc etc in a circle of weight and size reduction.

    Smaller lighter missiles are generally cheaper and can be operated in larger numbers.

    I would suspect for the Air Force the Vityaz will have a large box structure holding missiles horizontally on a truck base and when operational will rotate that box 90 degrees for vertical launch to allow targets from any direction to be engaged rapidly. The longer slimmer missiles should allow 12 tubes per truck, but the article is talking about an increase in firepower through the increase in guidance channels allowing more targets to be engaged at one time.

    It is the lack of guidance channels that allows NATO to defeat old model Soviet SAMs with cruise missile attacks.

    The Morfei missile is rather interesting and should be a small compact missile with an IIR seeker with lock on after launch capability that will be used across the services... the Air Force will likely use it as an AAM for helos and stealth fighters as an anti missile missile. I could also be used by AF ground forces to defend airfields and command centres. The Army will likely directly replace the SA-9 and SA-13 IR SAMs, but such missiles might be useful in light brigades as self defence systems, while the Navy can of course use them as CIWS because each missile will be able to engage a target itself so overwhelming a Russian Ship might become rather more difficult.

    Beyond this, the Navy might also deploy them on its submarines where the lock on after launch capability means that they can be fired up from a submerged sub to engage enemy MPA and helos flying low (detected by Sonar equipment as noise from above), while deep bunkers could use them to defend themselves from bunker busters. Most bunker buster weapons need to penetrate the ground before exploding, so a SAM that hits the weapon above the ground should be able to destabilise it before impact with the ground resulting in very poor performance in defeating deeply buried targets.

    The Vityaz will have Active guidance system. In other words, the battery can engage as many targets as it has missiles ready for launch.

    As for Morfei, I too expect that it will be IR guided (lock after launch) with vertical start. The given range of 5 km limits its role to the protection of high value targets (e.g. SAM batteries, command posts etc) against PGMs.
    I expect to see a naval version of Morfei on ships of different sizes.
    I don't see the Morfei as a replacement for the SA-13. The system is probably bulky or complex (spherical radar, superfast computing power, large number of vertically stowed rounds). It will be mobile for sure (like S-400), but not as mobile as an army SAM (like the SA-13. Potentially, I see the replacement of the SA-13 in a system based on the Sosna missile mounted on a tracked chassis.

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:48 am

    Are Russian SAMs equipped with thermobaric warheads and if no would such a thing work?

    Not generally.

    Let me explain.

    A standard block of HE has by weight about 1/4th fuel, and 3/4ths of the HE by weight is material that rapidly generates oxygen.

    This means that a 150kg warhead of an S-300 might have 40kgs of HE, with the rest of the weight as metal fragments and fuses. Of that 40kg HE charge 10kgs will be the material that actually explodes, while 30kgs will generate oxygen for the 10kg to "burn".

    Because it provides its own oxygen it will explode underwater and also in space and if you detonate it at high altitude or low altitude it will explode.

    Thermobaric explosive is all fuel... think of a thermobaric warhead as being petrol. 40kgs of petrol is all fuel, but it needs to be distributed around as an aerosol before it can explode in a detonation, but if it did then it would explode more powerfully than the equivalent of HE... the main problem is that because a Thermobaric warhead relies on taking oxygen from the environment where it is set off it is not as effective in thin air at high altitudes and it wont work at all in space or in water.

    It also does not tend to detonate as fast as HE, though it often tends to burn longer and hotter, which is good for destroying chem and bio agents for instance.

    In SAMs it makes much more sense to use the less powerful HE warheads because they are more consistent in power and rate of detonation.

    Keep in mind when a SAM is intercepting a very fast target it may not hit the target directly so when the proximity fuse sets off the warhead the active fusing will set off the warhead to deliver the majority of fragments in the direction of where the target will be so knowing how fast the warhead explodes is critical in ensuring a good kill. If the target is a Scud for instance then the fuse will direct the fragments at the nose of the target because hitting the body of a falling object is largely useless, the only effective way to defeat an incoming Scud is to hit the warhead and detonate it... smashing up the engines is pointless as they are not operating when the missile is falling onto the target area.

    Speaking of the morphei , are there any pictures of how exactly the missiles should look or is it top secret like the S-500?

    Just models of vehicles so far.

    The Vityaz will have Active guidance system. In other words, the battery can engage as many targets as it has missiles ready for launch.

    Even ARH missiles require guidance to the target area... there are limits to how many R-77s a fighter plane can guide at once to different targets... for the Mig-29S it was 2 I believe. The targets need to be tracked and the outgoing missiles directed to intercept points where they can turn on their own radars and self guide. For targets 100km away that means significant periods where the missile is not using its ARH seeker and relies on the launch platforms radar to direct it. As the article above mentions 12 guidance channels it will certainly be able to engage a lot of targets and once the missiles get to ARH range and they get locks the battery can launch another missile, plus I suspect with an IADS and net centricity it is rather likely that other platforms could take over guidance like Su-35s or A-100s.

    The system is probably bulky or complex (spherical radar, superfast computing power, large number of vertically stowed rounds).

    Spherical radar is unlikely, the information I have is that it uses an IR spherical sensor array to find targets, much like the spherical IR sensor array used on RHAWs to detect incoming missiles by their thermal signature (ie speed heated noses and control surfaces and operating rocket motors).

    I would expect the time taken for its development suggests it likely has a FPA or QWIP seeker with a one or two way datalink and full thrust vectoring rocket motor. This means that a missile can be launched without seeing the target (so it can be launched vertically and turn based on data provided by the launch platform towards the target and then look for a signature of the target. It will have a signature library database and should be able to select its own target. A two way datalink should allow it to transmit target data back to the launch platform. Its wide angle array seeker might detect a range of targets of which it might select the highest threat target to engage itself.

    In terms of range it will be inferior to Igla-S, but in terms of performance and sophistication it will be a generation ahead of Igla-S.

    It will likely be used on its own for some roles but also likely used in a "standard" launcher (ie Vityaz) as a standard self defence missile.

    For aircraft it will likely perform the role of the little anti missile missiles as depicted in the movie Firefox. Certainly a ARH radar seeker model would be a useful weapon for light aircraft like Yak-130 and helos along with the IIR guided model... with air launched models the range is likely 15-20km.

    but not as mobile as an army SAM (like the SA-13. Potentially, I see the replacement of the SA-13 in a system based on the Sosna missile mounted on a tracked chassis.

    I don't disagree with your logic, but the purpose of SA-13 and SA-9 was a light mobile air defence missile that operates in the IR spectrum to compliment the SA-19 and now SA-22 that are radio command directed. A laser guided model like SOSNA-R is rather a lot like SA-19 and a platform that carried SOSNA-Rs would not be that different from one that carried SA-19/-22s.

    The Morfei on the other hand will be a small compact missile which in vertical launch tubes would likely fit into the MTLB chassis of the SA-13. I don't see it as being a huge system.


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    Post  Viktor on Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:55 am

    GarryB wrote: As the article above mentions 12 guidance channels it will certainly be able to engage a lot of targets and once the missiles get to ARH range and they get locks the battery can launch another missile, plus I suspect with an IADS and net centricity it is rather likely that other platforms could take over guidance like Su-35s or A-100s.

    I believe it will be 12 missiles per TELAR with significantly increased number of destination channels which might be 12 or

    in either case significantly more than 6 currently present at S-300 systems. I think that Russian S-400 version has already

    greater number of guidance channels than advertised export S-400 variant which has 6 and modernization announced by Almaz Antej

    might level up that number even further.

    Modernization Phase 1:

    The latter part is interesting as I have read something similar concerning S-400. I will try to find that article.

    Thing is that S-400 will be upgraded in phases and most of the upgrades will mainly concern its centricity.

    We have all read in Almaz-Antej report for 2012 year that extensive work is being done to produce modernized S-400.

    We all focused on missiles 9M96M/M2 and 40N6 series which has perhaps already entered in service or will in short time (we may find out

    more during the MAKS-2013) but what is just as important (and perhaps even more )is that by the time

    modernized S-400 is finished with its development we may also see developed and finished A-100 AWACS (as Garry mentioned)

    and new unmanned AWACS from Sukhoi.



    As its obvious that both platforms will work as part of the newly formed ADF (Aerospace Defense Forces),

    I think we can expect that modernization of S-400 will focus mainly in line with allowing missiles fired from S-400

    to be taken over by A-100 and unmanned AWACS and guided to their targets allowing maximum range to be exploited using perhaps

    new trajectories and of course providing efficient coverage of low altitudes.

    Modernization Phase 2:

    I remember reading in Military Parade magazine that MIG-31 had ability to take over S-300 missiles if needed.

    Im not sure whether this information is correct or not but a new phase in S-400 modernization will focus in achieving absolute

    connectivity by allowing even fighters to take over and guide SAM missiles to their targets.

    As such problems are of much greater magnitude in its complexity I expect that it would be that new fighter which will

    replace MIG-31 (development kicks of in 2020 and ends in 2028) that will fully exploit such capability. Of course I could be wrong

    and PAK-FA and perhaps even Su-35 might have the same capability.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:01 pm

    The Su-30M was a PVO aircraft and was used to pass target data to a Mig-31M that was not fitted with its full power radar for early tests with the R-37, so I would suspect the Su-30M and Su-35 would be able to support such activity.


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    Post  Viktor on Tue May 07, 2013 1:45 am

    Excellent report about 606th Red Banner Guards air defense missile regiment which first received S-400

    LINK




    And whats more important new radars are entering service (did not mentioned the type but number is 6)

    I think we might expect new S-400 regiment soon.

    Russian aerospace defense forces: continued re-radio air defense units in the Moscow area


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    Post  medo on Tue May 07, 2013 6:41 pm

    I wonder how many Nebo-M complexes they got up to now.

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