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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:38 am

    False Flag Alert...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    US airforce Painting their F-18 planes in Syria in the same way , that Russia their Su-34..




    This is obviously a plan to bomb hundreds of civilians and later blame it on Russia.

    For sure it will be coordinated with Alqaeda , they will bomb a Rebel controlled zone ,and rebels will force hundreds of civilians to go to a zone in Aleppo. later this coordinates given to NATO..
    then Rebels will have cameras ready running filming the bombing of the "Russian planes"
    on their positions, and they will use this incident to Demonize Russia worldwide and try to earn
    some level of support in US against using force against Russia.


    I forgot who i was having a discussion before.. telling him ,how American Government with Israel are masters of deception. That they are not fools or "idiots" as people think. They fully understand what they doing. They hire hundreds of Experts in psicoligical warfare , Magicians,
    Military experts , actors.. whatever they need to do any job.

    The so called "failure" in US wars in middle east, is simple done intentionally . Because the more conflict last.. the more profits for the US defense industry and the more the profits for US senators and congress people ,who are financed by the Military Industrial lobbies. So is a round business , They take the money from American Tax dollars to buy weapons ,and the US military and CIA helps the terrorist to continue creating chaos. The money in the end goes from American citizens pockets, to the pockets of US defense industry , like Boeing ,Raytheon and the Politicians who support those conflict ,sending drones or American military get a commision for their help.. So is Win /WIN for US politicians and US defense Industry. and major lose for Americans citizens ,that their hard earned dollars is used to create Millionaires s from violence and conflicts they provoke.


    All this deception goes all the way to hiring actors and special effects technicians, with cameras at the right place in the right time. So the Pentagon is planning a false Flag in Syria ,where Russia will be blamed. and many civilians or even NATO servicemen will be bombed and blamed on Syria and or Russia. So this is why im NOT remotely surprised about the malasyan plane being shot down exactly over the warzone in Ukraine. It was not a coincidence but a planned false flag to frame Russia for the incident and blame them for shooting down the plane.

    So we are in Oct 8.. so withing few days ,or just 1,2 or 3 more weeks ,this is before
    US elections ,to try to Boost Hillary support ,don't be surprising if a major incident happens where many civilians killed in Ukraine or Syria and NATO stage everything to blame Russia for it.  It could be a Civilian Ship navigating near Syria coast. or the classic Malasyan airliner or simply NATO to bomb civilians in Aleppo and later rigged cameras with NATO painted planes , blame it on Russia.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:49 pm

    Only a retard would try a false flag with a plane that looks or sizes nothing like the 34. Oh wait...

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    Post  AK-Rex on Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:55 pm

    Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation

    October 8 at about 11.00 am in the province of Hama # (Syrian Arab Republic), the Russian transport helicopter Mi-8, to deliver humanitarian aid, accompanied by officers of the Russian Center for Reconciliation of the warring parties, under fire from militants ISIS portable air defense systems (MANPADS). According to information from the Russian Center for Reconciliation of the warring sides in the Syrian Arab Republic. Through typed altitude, early detection and launching crew skill in maneuvering the car, getting in helicopter missile avoided. None of the helicopter were in Russian military was not injured. According to information received by the Russian Center for Reconciliation, ISIS militants from Iraq on October 6 this year two MANPADS delivered. Complexes transferred for air cover armed gangs in the suburbs of Hama, who are attempting to take control of the road to Aleppo and # forge actions of government troops.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:31 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Only a retard would try a false flag with a plane that looks or sizes nothing like the 34. Oh wait...

    Nah, that's just Aggressor squadron, they always have ''hostile'' paintjobs

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    Post  kvs on Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:35 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Only a retard would try a false flag with a plane that looks or sizes nothing like the 34. Oh wait...

    Nah, that's just Aggressor squadron, they always have ''hostile'' paintjobs

    During the Kosovo NATO gang rape of Serbia in 1999, NATO did attack an Albanian refugee column.   The refugees were yelling that the Serbs
    bombed them.   Forget about jet profiles and other technical BS.   Nobody will care about the details.   All that will matter is the paint job
    and how many witnesses recall it.

    Uncle Scumbag will make sure that his false flag jets get real nice and low to the ground for everyone to see the paint job.

    The apparent recent "blinking" about bombing the SAA came suspiciously fast. I am quite sure Uncle Scumbag is planning false flag
    frame up jobs at a frenzied pace. The war is on all fronts, including psychological ones.

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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:44 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Only a retard would try a false flag with a plane that looks or sizes nothing like the 34. Oh wait...

    How low is your imagination..

    The plane in the picture ,flying at 5km altitude ,with the correct modifications and similar
    paint ,taken from the right angle from below on video camera.. will look just like a Russian plane bombing civilians.  That for sure Alqaeda can group in the many thousands in an hospital and later kill them themselves and blame Russia for it. Using the painted NATO planes as Russia ones.

    The real question should be why is NATO painting their planes F-18 ,like the SU-34
    AND SU-35 sukhoi in Syria? They will not bother to do such suspicious thing ,unless they had criminal intentions with those planes.

    Im repeating this again.. they are planning an false flag with people killed and later blamed on Russia. Later dont say , you were not told about this. NATO ,Israel and its dictators allies, needs to help boost Hillary Clinton Campaign before elections next month ,SO Trump dont wins ,and the best way to do that will be o frame/stage a show where it appears Russia bombing american military or at least bombing an hospital with thousands of civilians women and children. This is to damage Russia credibility in the world and stop the Syrian army from advancing in aleppo.

    Just remember that when the Rebels in Ukraine were winning, and had encircled 8,000 ukrainian army troops with lots of tanks and equipment , by Luck to Ukraine ,a civilian plane crashed in Rebels zones , demanding them to stop their offensive. How naive are the people in this forum.. so disappointing. cry This is not rocket science dude. is just 101 deception tactics to manipulate and shape public opinion against Russia. cry

    US have a very long record of staging false flags.To get people opinion on their side,
    from 9/11 WTC to Malasyan plane. In the Cuban Crisis ,the CIA suggested Kennedy to
    send a civilian plane to Cuba full of civilians ,with a bomb inside and invade its airspace and
    later blow it up and blame Cuba for it. a plan that kennedy rejected and fired the CIA officer from his position .This will have been the perfect pretext with American people for declaring war against Cuba and invading it with NATO. All western wars are always done first with manipulating their people opinion,to justify them.

    Trump winning the elections probably will change nothing in Syria.. because Trump will never be allowed to be president unless he agree with a policy dictated to him by the US military industry and wallstreet. But still trump pose a threat to Hillary and Obama ,and many other politicians because could investigate them and send them to jail.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  par far on Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:03 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Only a retard would try a false flag with a plane that looks or sizes nothing like the 34. Oh wait...

    How low is your imagination..

    The plane in the picture ,flying at 5km altitude ,with the correct modifications and similar
    paint ,taken from the right angle from below on video camera.. will look just like a Russian plane bombing civilians.  That for sure Alqaeda can group in the many thousands in an hospital and later kill them themselves and blame Russia for it. Using the painted NATO planes as Russia ones.

    The real question should be why is NATO painting their planes F-18 ,like the SU-34
    AND SU-35 sukhoi in Syria? They will not bother to do such suspicious thing ,unless they had criminal intentions with those planes.

    Im repeating this again.. they are planning an false flag with people killed and later blamed on Russia. Later dont say , you were not told about this. NATO ,Israel and its dictators allies, needs to help boost Hillary Clinton Campaign before elections next month ,SO Trump dont wins ,and the best way to do that will be o frame/stage a show where it appears Russia bombing american military or at least bombing an hospital with thousands of civilians women and children. This is to damage Russia credibility in the world and stop the Syrian army from advancing in aleppo.

    Just remember that when the Rebels in Ukraine were winning, and had encircled 8,000 ukrainian army troops with lots of tanks and equipment , by Luck to Ukraine ,a civilian plane crashed in Rebels zones , demanding them to stop their offensive. How naive are the people in this forum.. so disappointing. cry This is not rocket science dude. is just 101 deception tactics to manipulate and shape public opinion against Russia. cry

    US have a very long record of staging false flags.To get people opinion on their side,
    from 9/11 WTC to Malasyan plane. In the Cuban Crisis ,the CIA suggested Kennedy to
    send a civilian plane to Cuba full of civilians ,with a bomb inside and invade its airspace and
    later blow it up and blame Cuba for it. a plan that kennedy rejected and fired the CIA officer from his position .This will have been the perfect pretext with American people for declaring war against Cuba and invading it with NATO. All western wars are always done first with manipulating their people opinion,to justify them.

    Trump winning the elections probably will change nothing in Syria.. because Trump will never be allowed to be president unless he agree with a policy dictated to him by the US military industry and wallstreet.  But still trump pose a threat to Hillary and Obama ,and many other politicians because could investigate them and send them to jail.


    This is so god dam true, the NATO assholes, are going to try, something, hopefully Russia is ready for it.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  storm333 on Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:18 am

    The current lie of eastern Aleppo being a"humanitarian disaster" has not spurred a public sentiment enough. They need a new "big lie" for their propaganda campaign that will justify military action.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  BKP on Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:26 am




    The black top, light blue underside w/ white nose is definitely not the most attractive-looking paint scheme in the word, although I do understand that it's functional. But, you know, the SU-34 still manages to look pretty good with it. Those western planes OTOH look like crap!

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    Post  Vann7 on Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:10 am

    Interesting report.. Claims Russian defenses shot down an Israel plane and damaged another
    over Syria? and that the Israeli chief of staff declared that Israël had lost airborne dominance both in Syria and in Lebanon.  So perhaps this could explain the recent mysterious Israeli plane that Israel government claimed "had a malfunction" and its pilot died.

    No idea if the report of true. but one thing is clear , and that is that Israel never
    admits any defeat of its planes to enemy fire. Another thing said is that Russia supplied Yemenis with a Anti Ship missile that they used to sink a warship from the the countries in Saudi Coalition in yemen. That Russian military are secretly helping yemenis in their war.

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article193570.html

    So this could explain the major "capabilities" that people atribute to Yemenis in the war,could be in reality Russia and IRAN forces there helping them. Laughing Perhaps to increase the pressure on Saudi Arabia.

    So behind the scenes.. IS not rare many things happens , that are never
    reported and it reveals there are secret small fights/incidents that usually are never disclosed in the public. Like for example the claim recently that Russia in retaliation of the bombing
    of the Syrian Army ,they bombed a mountain in aleppo they knew ,there was about 30 Israeli and American intelligence operators ,guiding the operations of the terrorist.This was reported by IRAN media everywhere. And that this triggered the outrage of the Pentagon and talks of bombing Syrian army began again.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:01 pm


    Admiral Kuznetzov is being loaded up for Syria

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2170307.html



    More pics in link

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  par far on Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:12 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Interesting report.. Claims Russian defenses shot down an Israel plane and damaged another
    over Syria? and that the Israeli chief of staff declared that Israël had lost airborne dominance both in Syria and in Lebanon.  So perhaps this could explain the recent mysterious Israeli plane that Israel government claimed "had a malfunction" and its pilot died.

    No idea if the report of true. but one thing is clear , and that is that Israel never
    admits any defeat of its planes to enemy fire.
    Another thing said is that Russia supplied Yemenis with a Anti Ship missile that they used to sink a warship from the the countries in Saudi Coalition in yemen. That Russian military are secretly helping yemenis in their war.

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article193570.html

    So this could explain the major "capabilities" that people atribute to Yemenis in the war,could be in reality Russia and IRAN forces there helping them.  Laughing   Perhaps to increase the pressure on Saudi Arabia.

    So behind the scenes.. IS not rare many things happens , that are never
    reported and it reveals there are secret small fights/incidents that usually are never disclosed in the public. Like for example the claim recently that Russia in retaliation of the bombing
    of the Syrian Army ,they bombed a mountain in aleppo they knew ,there was about 30 Israeli and American intelligence operators ,guiding the operations of the terrorist.This was reported by IRAN media everywhere. And that this triggered the outrage of the Pentagon and talks of bombing Syrian army began again.




    The bolded part, I don't think that is true, Russia would never ever attack Israel planes.


    The underlined part, this is 100% true, Russia and Iran are supporting, the Houthis and allies in Yemen, they have been able to do this much damage, they could have, not done this with out the help of Iran and Russia. The bombing of the mountain base in Aleppo is probably true, after NATO bombed Syrian government soldiers, there had to be a response and bombing of that base was the response.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  zorobabel on Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:55 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Admiral Kuznetzov is being loaded up for Syria

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2170307.html



    More pics in link
    Beautiful

    Btw, does anyone know the exact aircraft load of the Kuznetzov right now? I see a pic of a Mig-29K on the LiveJournal page. Was wondering how many are on the ship now.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:35 pm


    I told you guys months ago that I can see the future Cool

    Russia plans permanent naval facility in Syrian port of Tartus – MoD

    https://www.rt.com/news/362209-russian-permanent-naval-facility-tartus/

    The Russian military plans to expand its supply base in Syria into a fully-fledged permanent naval base. The Russian facility in Tartus has long been used to resupply Russian warships during Mediterranean Sea missions.

    “We are going to have a permanent Navy base in Tartus. We have prepared the paperwork, which is now being reviewed by other government agencies. The documents are pretty much ready, so we hope to submit them to you for ratification soon,” General Nikolay Pankov, deputy defense minister responsible for communication with other parts of the Russian government, told the Federation Council, Russia’s senate.......................
    ............................

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    Post  VladimirSahin on Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:45 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    I told you guys months ago that I can see the future Cool

    Russia plans permanent naval facility in Syrian port of Tartus – MoD

    https://www.rt.com/news/362209-russian-permanent-naval-facility-tartus/

    The Russian military plans to expand its supply base in Syria into a fully-fledged permanent naval base. The Russian facility in Tartus has long been used to resupply Russian warships during Mediterranean Sea missions.

    “We are going to have a permanent Navy base in Tartus. We have prepared the paperwork, which is now being reviewed by other government agencies. The documents are pretty much ready, so we hope to submit them to you for ratification soon,” General Nikolay Pankov, deputy defense minister responsible for communication with other parts of the Russian government, told the Federation Council, Russia’s senate.......................
    ............................

    Start a Youtube prophecy scam channel Laughing Heard they're sending over anti-ship missiles too, I'd love for a F series fighter to try and hit those Smile

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  par far on Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:11 pm

    US has set up a new base in Kurdish controlled areas, never ever trust the Kurds, I hope Russia tells Turkey to go call blast against these Kurdish assholes and kill them all.

    https://southfront.org/us-sets-up-new-military-base-in-kurdish-controlled-areas-of-syria-report/


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:06 pm


    Off topic a bit but I need to mention something here:

    You all heard about signing of Turk Stream pipeline agreement:

    http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Agreement-Reached-On-Turkish-Stream-Gas-Pipeline-Project.html

    Just to put it in perspective, a year ago there was a deadlock in negotiations because Russia wanted contract for two lines while Turks insisted on just one.

    One year and a lot of mess later and you have Turks gleefully signing contract for two line pipeline and pretending that place called Aleppo does not exist. In addition to many other details.

    That is how hard  Russia has Turkey by the short ones today. thumbsup

    I just hope Serbia manages to hook up on this thing before Uncle Sam decides to burn down Greece or Macedonia in order to put a stop to it...

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:20 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Off topic a bit but I need to mention something here:

    You all heard about signing of Turk Stream pipeline agreement:

    http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Agreement-Reached-On-Turkish-Stream-Gas-Pipeline-Project.html

    Just to put it in perspective, a year ago there was a deadlock in negotiations because Russia wanted contract for two lines while Turks insisted on just one.

    One year and a lot of mess later and you have Turks gleefully signing contract for two line pipeline and pretending that place called Aleppo does not exist. In addition to many other details.

    That is how hard  Russia has Turkey by the short ones today. thumbsup

    I just hope Serbia manages to hook up on this thing before Uncle Sam decides to burn down Greece or Macedonia in order to put a stop to it...

    After US an attempt of coup in Turkey Erdo needs to follow different path. Russia might is growing while US is not absolute hegemon anymore. Besides Uncle Vova set a green light for Turks operation against US puppet Kurds...

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  eehnie on Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:26 am

    par far wrote:US has set up a new base in Kurdish controlled areas, never ever trust the Kurds, I hope Russia tells Turkey to go call blast against these Kurdish assholes and kill them all.

    https://southfront.org/us-sets-up-new-military-base-in-kurdish-controlled-areas-of-syria-report/


    Lol, you mean Turkey, NATO member and seat of US nuclear weapons?

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    Post  OminousSpudd on Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:08 am

    eehnie wrote:
    par far wrote:US has set up a new base in Kurdish controlled areas, never ever trust the Kurds, I hope Russia tells Turkey to go call blast against these Kurdish assholes and kill them all.

    https://southfront.org/us-sets-up-new-military-base-in-kurdish-controlled-areas-of-syria-report/


    Lol, you mean Turkey, NATO member and seat of US nuclear weapons?
    Nukes are allegedly gone.

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    Post  VladimirSahin on Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:29 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    par far wrote:US has set up a new base in Kurdish controlled areas, never ever trust the Kurds, I hope Russia tells Turkey to go call blast against these Kurdish assholes and kill them all.

    https://southfront.org/us-sets-up-new-military-base-in-kurdish-controlled-areas-of-syria-report/


    Lol, you mean Turkey, NATO member and seat of US nuclear weapons?
    Nukes are allegedly gone.

    From Injirlik? I don't think so. Nothing is confirmed yet.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:03 am

    eehnie wrote:
    par far wrote:US has set up a new base in Kurdish controlled areas, never ever trust the Kurds, I hope Russia tells Turkey to go call blast against these Kurdish assholes and kill them all.

    https://southfront.org/us-sets-up-new-military-base-in-kurdish-controlled-areas-of-syria-report/


    Lol, you mean Turkey, NATO member and seat of US nuclear weapons?

    The problem is that NATO attempted to overthrow Erdogan. Don't underestimate Erdogan's love of his own self-interest...he probably has a slush fund just set up for this, and he probably stands to rake in billions and claim it's "Islamic Charity".

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    Post  OminousSpudd on Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:34 am

    VladimirSahin wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    par far wrote:US has set up a new base in Kurdish controlled areas, never ever trust the Kurds, I hope Russia tells Turkey to go call blast against these Kurdish assholes and kill them all.

    https://southfront.org/us-sets-up-new-military-base-in-kurdish-controlled-areas-of-syria-report/


    Lol, you mean Turkey, NATO member and seat of US nuclear weapons?
    Nukes are allegedly gone.

    From Injirlik? I don't think so. Nothing is confirmed yet.
    Oh right, I see it is now more rumor than fact. Oops.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:40 pm

    Indefinitely and legitimate: the senators have approved the placement of the air group HQs in Syria

    https://ria.ru/syria/20161012/1479034228.html


    MOSCOW, 12 APR — RIA Novosti. The Federation Council ratified the agreement on the indefinite location of the air group HQs in Syria. The agreement between Moscow and Damascus was signed in August last year.
    Now the aircraft of VC are on the basis of Hamim in the province of Latakia. Under the agreement, the airport with all the infrastructure go into a free use to Russia.

    The composition of the air group to be determined in negotiations between Moscow and Damascus. The Russian military will receive full immunity from civil and administrative jurisdiction of Syria.



    Defensive

    How do you assess Russia's plans for location of a naval base in Tartus?
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    The head of the international Committee of the Federation Council Konstantin Kosachev said that the agreement with Syria is not directed against third countries and is defensive in nature.
    According to the Senator, now in the world, various States contain about a thousand foreign bases, about 700 of them fall to the share of the United States.

    "Russia has such bases much less. Point in Tartus was the only point after the closure of our bases in Cuba and Vietnam. Now we are back to support the people of Syria," — said Kosachev.

    "Our legal and moral advantage in the fact that Russia's actions in Syria are absolutely legitimate," added the Senator.

    The Chairman of the Committee on defense and security Viktor Ozerov, in turn, called the placement of the group in Syria "specific contribution" of Russia in the efforts to stabilize the situation in the country.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #10

    Post  eehnie on Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:42 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    par far wrote:US has set up a new base in Kurdish controlled areas, never ever trust the Kurds, I hope Russia tells Turkey to go call blast against these Kurdish assholes and kill them all.

    https://southfront.org/us-sets-up-new-military-base-in-kurdish-controlled-areas-of-syria-report/


    Lol, you mean Turkey, NATO member and seat of US nuclear weapons?

    The problem is that NATO attempted to overthrow Erdogan. Don't underestimate Erdogan's love of his own self-interest...he probably has a slush fund just set up for this, and he probably stands to rake in billions and claim it's "Islamic Charity".

    To pretend that Turkey is a Russian ally is only wishful thinking if not pure intoxication. Try to say who is the target of these US nuclear weapons that are besed in Turkey.

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