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    Post  Zivo on Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:54 am

    CNN Turkey's studios have been raided, broadcast shut down, and apparently (could be propaganda) hostages have been taken.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:57 am

    so US plans this time failed...

    Dozens of Turkish soldiers hand over weapons to the police in Taksim square in Istanbul

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20160715/1467044001.html#ixzz4EWqIVnW0


    F-16 fighter of the Turkish armed forces shot down a helicopter of the coup participants
    http://ria.ru/world/20160716/1467140968.html



    Resistance wrote:Erdogan is an Islamist. He is everything Russia and Syria do not stand for. As long as Erdogan is in power, Putin will fight in Syria.

    on thet level there is no islamist or not ther is ruler

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    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:57 am

    At least 1991 Soviet coup lasted for 3 days, not for 3 hours..


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:57 am

    George1 wrote:
    Resistance wrote:Erdogan is an Islamist. He is everything Russia and Syria do not stand for. As long as Erdogan is in power, Putin will fight in Syria.

    Turkish Military isnt Islamist? are they Christian or Jews?

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    Post  Regular on Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:59 am

    I don't get it. A coup with no proper support from locals is doomed to fail. From now on I will call this country Turkraine because it's equally as "stable" as it's not so distant EU wannabe brother

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    Post  zorobabel on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:03 am

    Bad news if Erdogan emerges triumphant. The psychopath will have complete control over the country.

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    Post  Zivo on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:04 am

    Reports of explosions at Ataturk airport, Istanbul. Supposedly Erdogan's plane, and presumably him, are at that location.

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    Post  zorobabel on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:10 am

    Zivo wrote:Reports of explosions at Ataturk airport, Istanbul. Supposedly Erdogan's plane, and presumably him, are at that location.
    He's meeting crowds at the airport:


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    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:13 am

    The way I see it, Erdogan may be a total schizo, but he at least seems to act "independently?". Would a replacement by a NATO sock puppet be more favorable? Especially considering the 180 degree turnaround in Russia policy.
    He's a pig, supporting ISIS and all, and we really can't get any worse than this Islamo-fascist prick... but he's been a prick to everyone, not just Russia. Replacement by an American skunk maybe better for the West, but it'd probably just be more of the same for Syria and Russia.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:21 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Turkish soldiers arrested by police...
    https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/754096806053699592


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    Cowboy's daughter wrote:I don't get the major channels, so saw a little bit about this on my evening news.

    Came here to get more news!!

    Basically, from what i can judge. Turkish Millitary committed to a serious coup with a lot of diverse millitary units ranging from combat helicopters, f-16's, modern battle-tanks, infantry, APC's etc etc.

    So far the coup forces done a good job at seizing strategic targets, on the bad side.....Erdogan called on people to take to the streets and resist the millitary. basically throwing civilians against the millitary that resulted in death's already.


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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:22 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:The way I see it, Erdogan may be a total schizo, but he at least seems to act "independently?". Would a replacement by a NATO sock puppet be more favorable? Especially considering the 180 degree turnaround in Russia policy.
    He's a pig, supporting ISIS and all, and we really can't get any worse than this Islamo-fascist prick... but he's been a prick to everyone, not just Russia. Replacement by an American skunk maybe better for the West, but it'd probably just be more of the same for Syria and Russia.

    I am not really sure where to shoot here, i mean is the U.S really backing this, i just don't see them destabilizing a NATO ally just because of Erdogan, he would have been deposed anyway if he had kept going like he did, honestly the best case scenario here is Erdogan dying, regardless of whether this coup succeeds or not.

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    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:29 am

    RT says he's giving speech at Ataturk Airport now....
    https://www.rt.com/news/351456-erdogan-lands-istanbul-coup/

    @AlfaT8 It's all a little too foggy at the moment. I would agree with Erdogan getting bumped off... just worried about his replacement. Perhaps the coup has nothing to do with foreign involvement, but it doesn't mean Uncle Sam won't capitalize on the situation.

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    Post  d_taddei2 on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:42 am

    so it seems it was short lived. Those soldiers will face a dire future. And Fethullah Gulen will be in hiding somewhere else in the USA, as no doubt Erdogan will want his blood. And now wanting to shake up the military he will no doubt put a concrete grip on every aspect of government functions to make sure nothing like this will happen again

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    Post  Resistance on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:44 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:so it seems it was short lived. Those soldiers will face a dire future. And Fethullah Gulen will be in hiding somewhere else in the USA, as no doubt Erdogan will want his blood. And now wanting to shake up the military he will no doubt put a concrete grip on every aspect of government functions to make sure nothing like this will happen again

    When coup took TV station, they announced restoring secularism in Turkey. So I don't think it was Gulen behind the coup. Seems like it was kemalists.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:46 am

    This is crazy. We live in a crazy, dangerous world!

    from twitter

    Carol Malouf ‏@carolmalouf 21m21 minutes ago

    #Erdogan press conference now live from #Istanbul

    Howard Eissenstat Retweeted
    Humeyra Pamuk ‏@humeyra_pamuk 2h2 hours ago

    State broadcaster TRT back online, #Turkish officials say coup attempt largely contained, but gunfire, blasts still reported in Ist/Ankara

    but then: Howard Eissenstat Retweeted
    Amberin Zaman ‏@amberinzaman 33m33 minutes ago

    A cobra helicopter just fired at the parliament #Turkey

    Obama rejects attempted military coup in Turkey

    The president pledged to 'support the democratically elected government of Turkey' as Washington gaped at the dramatic events in a key NATO ally.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/barack-obama-turkey-coup-225642

    Whatever the facts are our news said that the coup "caught the US government by surprise"

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:47 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:RT says he's giving speech at Ataturk Airport now....
    https://www.rt.com/news/351456-erdogan-lands-istanbul-coup/

    @AlfaT8 It's all a little too foggy at the moment. I would agree with Erdogan getting bumped off... just worried about his replacement. Perhaps the coup has nothing to do with foreign involvement, but it doesn't mean Uncle Sam won't capitalize on the situation.

    Well everyone is gonna try capitalize if they can, U.S, EU, Russia, Kurds, Syria, and of course Israel, let's see what happens while this fog clears.

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    Post  Resistance on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:51 am

    It seems it was a kemalist coup attempting to stop terrorism done by Erdogan in Syria.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/4t1c8h/turkish_coup_secular_or_islamic_extremists_and/

    It seems the coup failed, which means Putin will have to fight Erdogan in Syria for the next 20 years until they both kick the bucket.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:53 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:RT says he's giving speech at Ataturk Airport now....
    https://www.rt.com/news/351456-erdogan-lands-istanbul-coup/

    @AlfaT8 It's all a little too foggy at the moment. I would agree with Erdogan getting bumped off... just worried about his replacement. Perhaps the coup has nothing to do with foreign involvement, but it doesn't mean Uncle Sam won't capitalize on the situation.

    Well everyone is gonna try capitalize if they can, U.S, EU, Russia, Kurds, Syria, and of course Israel, let's see what happens while this fog clears.

    I don't know what the facts are, and this is just twitter,

    Rami ‏@RamiAILoIah 5m5 minutes ago

    #BreakingNews Fighter jets take off from Eskisehir airbase to encounter and down the coup jets flying over #Turkey

    and

    Rami ‏@RamiAILoIah 22m22 minutes ago

    VERY HUGE! #BreakingNews #Turkey's President Erdogan: Military coup leaders are taking their direct orders from Washington.. #USA

    Maybe more clear later....?

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    Post  Resistance on Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:59 am

    So the US was doing the coup to kill Erdogan and establish secularism in Turkey? I thought so. The US backs SDF which is secular. Turkey backs Ahrar and Nusra which are Islamists.

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    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:14 am

    Resistance wrote:So the US was doing the coup to kill Erdogan and establish secularism in Turkey? I thought so. The US backs SDF which is secular. Turkey backs Ahrar and Nusra which are Islamists.

    so Erdogan is Anti-US? and if he is Anti-US that means he is pro-russian? But he backs Nusra that are islamists and Russia is fighting those groups

    i dont accept these "productive relations"


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    Post  Resistance on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:15 am

    George1 wrote:
    Resistance wrote:So the US was doing the coup to kill Erdogan and establish secularism in Turkey? I thought so. The US backs SDF which is secular. Turkey backs Ahrar and Nusra which are Islamists.

    so Erdogan is Anti-US? and if he is Anti-US that means he is pro-russian? But he backs Nusra that are islamists and Russia is fighting those groups

    i dont accept these "productive relations"

    Erdogan is Islamist. Also his proxies in Syria are enemies with SDF which is backed by the US. Yesterday Kerry met Putin. My guess is this coup was on Kerry's agenda.

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    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:42 am

    Live stream of inside CNN Turk:


    Heavy causalities in central Ankara:
    https://www.rt.com/news/351472-turkish-coup-shooting-casualties/

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:49 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:Live stream of inside CNN Turk:


    Heavy causalities in central Ankara:
    https://www.rt.com/news/351472-turkish-coup-shooting-casualties/

    Thank you.

    My heart feels heavy. Sad

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    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:50 am

    A warning from the Western masters, as they sense that Erdogan is getting out of control.

    This coup failed, but that does not means Erdie is safe. Look at Ngô Đình Diệm,there was several unsuccessful coup against him but finally he still went into M113.

    Russia just said that she is considering about granting asylum for Erdie, well probably it is time for Erdie to look for a new master.

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    Post  Resistance on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:51 am

    Erdogan is an evil man. He funds terrorists and massacres millions of people in Syria. Someone needs to put a bullet into his head and send him down to Satan. This evil man deserves no sympathy whatsoever.

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