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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:13 pm


    Well, just like the end of Cold War, this was anticlimactic...   Neutral

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    In October 26, 2016, amid the hubbub of a rancorous American presidential election that dominated the headlines, an event took place in Russia that escaped the attention of those not otherwise involved in monitoring the esoteric world of strategic weapons research and development.

    This event, a test of a ballistic missile carrying a payload known as “Object 4202,” fundamentally changed the landscape of arms control, built as it is on the dual pillars of nuclear deterrence and missile defense.

    “Object 4202” was a new kind of weapon, a hypersonic warhead capable of speeds 15 times the speed of sound, and capable of evading any anti-missile system the United States has today, or may develop and deploy for decades to come. While the October 26 test used an older RS-26 intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) as the launch vehicle, “Object 4202” will ultimately be carried on a newer ICBM, the RS-28.

    The RS-28 is itself a wonder of modern technology, capable of flying in excess of five times the speed of sound, altering its trajectory to confuse anti-missile radars, and delivering 15 independently targetable nuclear warheads (each one 10 times as powerful as the bombs the United States dropped on Japan at the end of World War II) or three “Object 4202” hypersonic warheads, which destroy their targets through kinetic energy (i.e., through impact).

    A nuclear warhead-armed RS-28 would take about 30 minutes to reach the United States from a silo in central Russia; its warheads would be capable of destroying an area about the size of Texas.

    Armed with the “Object 4202” hypersonic warheads, each of which is capable of destroying an American missile silo, the time would be cut down to 12 minutes or less. The RS-28 ICBM, scheduled to become operational in 2018, assures Russia the ability to annihilate the United States in retaliation for any American first strike, while providing Russia a silo-killing first-strike capability of its own............................................
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:17 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Well, just like the end of Cold War, this was anticlimactic...   Neutral

    The U.S.-Russia Nuclear Arms Race Is Over, and Russia Has Won

    http://www.newsweek.com/us-russia-nuclear-arms-race-over-and-russia-has-won-581704

    In October 26, 2016, amid the hubbub of a rancorous American presidential election that dominated the headlines, an event took place in Russia that escaped the attention of those not otherwise involved in monitoring the esoteric world of strategic weapons research and development.

    This event, a test of a ballistic missile carrying a payload known as “Object 4202,” fundamentally changed the landscape of arms control, built as it is on the dual pillars of nuclear deterrence and missile defense.

    “Object 4202” was a new kind of weapon, a hypersonic warhead capable of speeds 15 times the speed of sound, and capable of evading any anti-missile system the United States has today, or may develop and deploy for decades to come. While the October 26 test used an older RS-26 intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) as the launch vehicle, “Object 4202” will ultimately be carried on a newer ICBM, the RS-28.

    The RS-28 is itself a wonder of modern technology, capable of flying in excess of five times the speed of sound, altering its trajectory to confuse anti-missile radars, and delivering 15 independently targetable nuclear warheads (each one 10 times as powerful as the bombs the United States dropped on Japan at the end of World War II) or three “Object 4202” hypersonic warheads, which destroy their targets through kinetic energy (i.e., through impact).

    A nuclear warhead-armed RS-28 would take about 30 minutes to reach the United States from a silo in central Russia; its warheads would be capable of destroying an area about the size of Texas.

    Armed with the “Object 4202” hypersonic warheads, each of which is capable of destroying an American missile silo, the time would be cut down to 12 minutes or less. The RS-28 ICBM, scheduled to become operational in 2018, assures Russia the ability to annihilate the United States in retaliation for any American first strike, while providing Russia a silo-killing first-strike capability of its own............................................

    Read the entire thing and i noticed 2 things, one, this guy is making the same mistake as Pepe Escobar, he is assuming Russia's missile shield is nearly complete, while the S-500 and Nodul haven't even deployed yet, and two, we are not yet sure whether "Object 4202" is accurate enough to take out Silo's (like a surgical strike).
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:22 am

    We will never know of the Russian hypersonic ICBM system. We will know of Zircon. This is obvious by reportings. While everyone has harped on about Russia's Object 4202, only minor hints of it was mentioned in Russia by authorities.

    As for S-500, already the missile tube has been seen by some viewers. Do not know about more but by 2018 it will be tested officially. Probably tested now.

    US is behind because they fund other technologies and blow majority of their money on foreign bases and bullshit dealings to upkeep a sick child like NATO and middle eastern monarchies.
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  Singular_Transform on Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:51 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:

    Read the entire thing and i noticed 2 things, one, this guy is making the same mistake as Pepe Escobar, he is assuming Russia's missile shield is nearly complete, while the S-500 and Nodul haven't even deployed yet, and two, we are not yet sure whether "Object 4202" is accurate enough to take out Silo's (like a surgical strike).

    The problem to hit the silos is not the precision of guidance system, rather than that the warheads doesn't have any manoeuvre rockets, means if the ballistic trajectory has issue there is no correction option.

    If the warhead manoeuvre then it can hit anything with meter precision.
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:08 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:....................

    Read the entire thing and i noticed 2 things, one, this guy is making the same mistake as Pepe Escobar, he is assuming Russia's missile shield is nearly complete, while the S-500 and Nodul haven't even deployed yet, and two, we are not yet sure whether "Object 4202" is accurate enough to take out Silo's (like a surgical strike).

    Irelevant.

    USA for some very stupid reason assumes that nuclear war is something that can have a winner (hence all that ''missile shield'' BS)

    Russian military sees nuclear arms as a deterrent and retaliation tool.

    If SHTF they will not waste any missiles targeting enemy silos (which will be empty anyway). Everything will be going after cities. Especially those things that have most chances of hitting targets without interception.

    So "Object 4202" will most definitely be going after locations with most ''meat'' in them. East and West Coast, Texas, Chicago, etc... all the juicy ones. No flyover states for big boys.
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:....................

    Read the entire thing and i noticed 2 things, one, this guy is making the same mistake as Pepe Escobar, he is assuming Russia's missile shield is nearly complete, while the S-500 and Nodul haven't even deployed yet, and two, we are not yet sure whether "Object 4202" is accurate enough to take out Silo's (like a surgical strike).

    Irelevant.

    USA for some very stupid reason assumes that nuclear war is something that can have a winner (hence all that ''missile shield'' BS)

    Russian military sees nuclear arms as a deterrent and retaliation tool.

    If SHTF they will not waste any missiles targeting enemy silos (which will be empty anyway). Everything will be going after cities. Especially those things that have most chances of hitting targets without interception.

    So "Object 4202" will most definitely be going after locations with most ''meat'' in them. East and West Coast, Texas, Chicago, etc... all the juicy ones. No flyover states for big boys.

    That would be unwise, wasting warheads on civilian targets simply means less warheads for the real targets, ask the Germans.
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:57 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:........ .

    That would be unwise, wasting warheads on civilian targets simply means less warheads for the real targets, ask the Germans.

    This is nuclear war we are talking about here. The last one there ever will be. Civilian targets are only ones that matter.

    It's not about winning, it's about taking enemy down with you.
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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:31 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:........ .

    That would be unwise, wasting warheads on civilian targets simply means less warheads for the real targets, ask the Germans.

    This is nuclear war we are talking about here. The last one there ever will be.  Civilian targets are only ones that matter.

    It's not about winning, it's about taking enemy down with you.

    No it's about winning, as crazy as that sounds, even in nuclear war. It continues to be unwinnable, that's why no-one has ever engaged in it.
    If it ever becomes winnable..

    The object 4202 is a first strike/pre-emptive strike tool. If you can hit the enemy's silos before they have a chance to launch - you'll reduce your own military and civilian casualties; and that's more important than commiting mass-murder.
    Pointing nukes at cities is useful as a detterant, but when SHTF it's better to take out the targets that can actually harm you.
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:........ .

    That would be unwise, wasting warheads on civilian targets simply means less warheads for the real targets, ask the Germans.

    This is nuclear war we are talking about here. The last one there ever will be.  Civilian targets are only ones that matter.

    It's not about winning, it's about taking enemy down with you.

    No, hell no, the only targets that matter are military targets, and perhaps defense industry targets.

    No, taking the enemy with you isn't winning.

    Update: Forget the second part, i misread your response.
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:22 am

    Most military targets will be irrelevant after the start of WWIII.

    Silos are pointless targets as most of the time they will be empty by the time your weapons reach them.

    Major air bases and ports are the primary targets as well as major population centres... when the bulk of the enemies population centres are wiped out they lose the capacity to fight the next war.

    Surgical strikes on military only targets might make the enemy think they can survive a war... which makes the war all the more likely.

    Knowing there are plenty if ICBMs and SLBMs and nuclear armed torpedo like weapons that will destroy all your major cities makes you think twice about starting a nuclear war that might wipe your civilisation off the map forever.

    The US population is much more concentrated than the Russian population in that regard.

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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  Austin on Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:11 am

    "Product 4202" becomes a nightmare for America

    https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/184275/

    It is about the "product 4202". Other names are Yu-71 and Aeroballistic hypersonic combat equipment (AGBO). The product is being developed in the Reutov Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering tentatively from the middle of the zero years. It is assumed that Sarmat will be equipped with either conventional nuclear warheads of 750 kt each, or three U-71s. The novelty of this weapon is that, by accelerating the missile to 12-17M, the "4202" product is actively maneuvering at this extraordinary speed in the atmosphere at the rate and pitch, that is, in two planes. In this case, the square probable deviation from the goal is 5-10 meters. This will partially equip the Sarmatians with kinetic warheads capable of destroying enemy strategic objects by a mechanical strike without a nuclear explosion. Since the amount of motion - the product of the mass of the object by the speed - is enormous for Yu-71.

    The first tests of the hypersonic warhead took place, presumably, in 2010 at the Baikonur cosmodrome. In 2013, the tests moved to the base of Strategic Missile Forces in the Orenburg region. It is characteristic that the chief of the Kapustin Yar test site named Yasnoe as the starting point of the test route.

    A total of 6 tests were conducted. (Probably, October this year were the seventh). The sixth test, held in April last year, was completely successful.
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:50 pm

    Part video, part CGI of the new RS-26 Rubezh (project code: #Avangard) ICBM with hypersonic boost-glide warheads was presented during V.V. Putin's annual state-of-the-nation address today.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:04 pm

    George1 wrote:Part video, part CGI of the new RS-26 Rubezh (project code: #Avangard) ICBM with hypersonic boost-glide warheads was presented during V.V. Putin's annual state-of-the-nation address today.
    ...........


    Already in production according to Imperator. Should work with both Sarmat and other ICBMs as well.

    http://tass.com/defense/992297
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:30 pm

    Just to point out one detail: remember that Prompt Global Strike thingie Pentagon has been pushing for over past decade or so?

    Well, with speed of Mach 20 for Avangard (Rubezh) Russia just made one. thumbsup

    They could further simplify design by using single Avangard with one Topol/Yars solid rocket instead of 3 Avangards on one Sarmat (someone could crunch the numbers) Cheaper and more mobile that way.

    Also, replace payload with block of cement/iron/anything-heavy and you got yourself a kinetic impactor.

    Robert Heinlein would be proud (granted it was not USA that made it but since this weapon will still be defending capitalism even if Russian one, he should be proud in principle)  Cool
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    Post  gaurav on Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:47 pm

    Testing teh Avanguard against LASER Cannons.
    Russians know that U.S missile defense interceptors are a joke. This U.S missile defense is not even a leaky umbrella ..infact it is just
    "nothing burger". Cool
    Now they tested the AVANgard against laser cannons because that is where these  ICBM will be tested .
    Russians are expecting that Americans will finally adopt laser based missile defense because their interceptors are just jokes.
    U.S missile interceptor scam, money laudering site .. he he he


    I also believe that Yars and AVangard are both into  mass production ..so much so that there would be 8-10 regiments on combat duty
    right now.

    Avangard

    sputniknews wrote: Sergei Karakayev, Commander of Russia's Strategic Missile Forces, provided more information on the Avangard,
    including its long-range, non-ballistic trajectory and maneuverability characteristics. The composite materials used in the glider allow
    its body to withstand heat up to several thousand degrees Celsius, and offer protection against laser irradiation.
    Karakayev was able to confirm that the testing of the weapon had successfully wrapped up.

    The source also confirmed that Kinzhal, the ultra-maneuverable air-launched missile flying at speeds above Mach 10,
    has also been deployed by the Russian military.

    that the Avangard has entered production, and recalled that the strategic system is capable of intercontinental flights
    through the dense atmosphere at speeds up to Mach 20, making it invulnerable to any existing or prospective anti-aircraft
    or missile defense systems.

    We also see that these kind of news separates the real and fake news. For i.e here one can see that the general is really explaining
    the features of the missile without exposing the secrets . The general cannot expose all the secrets he will just "extrapolate" whatever Putin
    told in the assembly.This is real news, otherwise all media will just start blurting out all kinds of features ,fake /real who knows of
    Avngard/kinzhal ..with no one taking responsibilty whether those features are real or not.


    Avangard was tested in 2013 circa after that all tests were stopped to hide the true specification of the missile. Hence this missile would
    be in production since 2015 leading to several regiments being deployed in 2017/18.
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  gaurav on Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:24 am

    http://militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=475820

    Russia's Defense Ministry has concluded a contract for the mass production of the hypersonic complex Avangard - Deputy Minister
    03/12/2018 2:26:13 AM
          Moscow. 12 March. INTERFAX - A contract for mass production of the Avangard hypersonic complex has been concluded,
    Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov said.
          "The Vanguard system, which the president spoke of, is well tested, practical tests of this system have confirmed
    the feasibility of the chosen approach.I will say more, we have a contract for the mass production of these systems.
    So this is not a bluff, but real things, . Borisov in an interview with the newspaper "Red Star".
          He noted that when creating the "Vanguard" Russian scientists had to overcome a number of difficulties associated with the fact that the temperature on the surface of the combat unit reaches 2 thousand degrees.
          "It really flies in the plasma, so the problem of managing this object and the issues of protection were very acute, but solutions were found," Borisov said.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:18 am

    gaurav wrote: "It really flies in the plasma, so the problem of managing this object and the issues of protection were very acute, but solutions were found," Borisov said.

    For mean interesting question is: Can Rubezh/Avangard fulfill also IRBM function? otherwise why test it on 2000km distance...

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    Post  Austin on Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:59 am

    Interiew with Deputy Defence Minister Deputy Defense Minister Yuri BORISOV

    Many new details on the new system

    http://www.redstar.ru/index.php/component/k2/item/36438-v-obojme-sarmat-kinzhal-avangard

    On Avantgrad Hypersonic Glide Vehical:


    There are so-called laws of Keppler, discovered in the XVI century. All the celestial bodies move along them, and, in fact, these laws are applicable to the description of the ballistic trajectory of the movement of missiles. That is, you can predict where the next moment will be the body moving along the ballistic trajectory. On this, in fact, built all the information tools that allow you to determine the distance to the target and its location at a certain point in time. The next mark from the target is predicted depending on the possible speed characteristics of this goal, which are also potentially known. After confirming its location in the predicted location, a chain of expected next marks is built. When the trajectory is actually known, it is possible to determine the launching point of the rocket and the point of its fall.

    With hypersonic objects, things are much more complicated because they move at speeds that are almost the same as ballistic targets, but they also maneuver both in height and course. Therefore, to predict the finding of this goal at the next moment of time is very difficult. All this makes the problem of detection, trajectory tying, detection of the meeting point and the defeat of the missile by anti-missile means an order of magnitude more complicated.

    The system "Avangard", about which the president spoke, is well tested. Not without difficulty, it was created, because the temperature on the surface of the combat unit reaches two thousand degrees. It really flies in the plasma. Therefore, the problem of managing this object and protection issues were very acute, but solutions were found. Practical tests of this system have confirmed the feasibility of the chosen approach. I will say more, we have a contract for the mass production of these systems. So this is no bluff, but real things.

    Dagger Hypersonic Air Launched Missile/Mig-31
    : The main first feature and complexity - it was necessary to reach the speeds of hypersonic, that is, about ten mach. This allows you to quickly approach the object, in contrast, say, from cruise missiles that fly at average cruising speeds of about 850-900 km / h. That is, the first feature is first of all speed.

    The second feature of the system is that it can maneuver during its flight with the help of aerodynamic steering wheels and bypass all dangerous zones. These are zones of anti-aircraft or anti-missile defense. As our Minister of Defense put it, an anti-missile umbrella becomes leaky in this situation. It is the possibility of maneuvering in hypersonic flight that makes it possible to ensure invulnerability of this product and guaranteed hit in the target.

    Here we have moved far enough, since December of last year the first products have been taken into experimental combat operation, they are already on duty. So this is far from fantastic. Moreover, it is a class of high-precision weapons that has a multi-functional warhead that allows to work both for stationary and moving targets. In particular, aircraft carriers and ships of the class of a cruiser, destroyer, frigate are potential targets for this weapon.

    Nuclear Cruise Missile/UUV
    :in order to bring the reactor of an atomic submarine to a given capacity, it takes several hours. And here it all happens in a matter of seconds. And the overall dimensions of this installation are such that they allow to really create a torpedo with quite acceptable overall and weight characteristics - they are the record, we can say. This is the uniqueness of the new weapon.

    The uniqueness of this rocket is that it may be slower than the hypersonic "Dagger", but it flies along a given trajectory, skirting the folds of the terrain at a low altitude, which makes it difficult to detect it. Practically it can be found on the very approach to the goal, and the possibilities of its maneuver make the cruise missile also invulnerable. She can carry cargo at any distance. Day can fly. This is another of its uniqueness.

    laser weapons : Since last year, laser systems have been put into service, which make it possible to disarm a potential enemy and to hit all those objects that serve as the target for the laser beam of this system.

    Our nuclear scientists learned how to concentrate the energy necessary to defeat the corresponding weapons of the enemy in practically a few moments, in a matter of a fraction of a second. I think that the dynamics of achievements, especially in the field of weapons on new physical principles, gained corresponding rates.
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    Interiew with Deputy Defence Minister Deputy Defense Minister Yuri BORISOV

    Post  George1 on Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:04 pm

    Russia’s Defense Ministry signs production contract for Avangard hypersonic systems

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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:18 am

    For mean interesting question is: Can Rubezh/Avangard fulfill also IRBM function? otherwise why test it on 2000km distance...

    All ICBMs can be used at shorter ranges... or did you think all of china and europe were safe because Russia has ICBMs and no IRBMs...

    An artillery piece can hit targets up close simply by not going up in the air so high, or simply by not using a full power charge... with a three stage rocket motor that could be as simple as not using one stage and letting the missile fall earlier over a much shorter range.... with old liquid fuels that means shutting down an engine earlier.... with a solid fuel rocket that could be as simple as jettisoning it before it is fully burned out...
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    Here says Avangard is Yu71/"4202"

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:40 am

    Here says Avangard is Yu71/"4202"

    Russia’s Avangard hypersonic missile system

    Russia’s Defense Ministry has signed a contract on the serial production of the advanced Avangard hypersonic missile complex

    MOSCOW, March 12. /TASS/. On March 12, 2018, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said in an interview with Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper that Russia’s Defense Ministry had signed a contract on the serial production of the most advanced Avangard hypersonic missile complex.

    The Avangard is a strategic intercontinental ballistic missile system equipped with a gliding hypersonic maneuvering warhead.

    Maneuvering warhead

    According to open sources, the guided hypersonic warhead (the spacehead) of the Avangard intercontinental ballistic missile system is codenamed 15Yu71. It was developed as part of the R&D work "4202" by specialists of the Military and Industrial Corporation "Research and Production Association of Machine-Building" (the town of Reutov) under the guidance of Chief Designer Pavel Sudyukov. Russia’s Federal Space Agency acted as the customer for the R&D work "4202."

    Compared to traditional warheads of intercontinental ballistic missiles, which follow the ballistic trajectory towards their targets, the maneuvering glider warhead travels a part of its flight path at an altitude of several dozen kilometers in the dense layers of the atmosphere.

    While maneuvering along its flight path and by its altitude, the glider warhead is capable of bypassing the area of the missile defense’s detection and destruction capabilities.

    The warhead’s performance characteristics have not been officially disclosed. Presumably, the glider vehicle is about 5.4m long and develops a speed exceeding Mach 20. The warhead is either nuclear (from 150 kilotonnes to 1 megatonne) or conventional.

    According to Strategic Missile Force Commander Sergei Karakayev, the vehicle’s body is made of composite materials, which makes it resistant to aerodynamic heating of several thousand degrees and protects it from laser irradiation. The vehicle is equipped with the thermoregulation system developed by the Nauka Research and Production Association.
    Trials

    On February 19, 2004, First Deputy Chief of Russia’s General Staff Yuri Baluyevsky told reporters that during a training exercise, specialists "tested a space vehicle capable of flying at a hypersonic speed while maneuvering by its flight path and altitude and, therefore, capable of bypassing regional missile defense groupings."

    According to unofficial data, the tests of the "object 4202" had been held since 2004 at the Baikonur and Yasny spaceports where the RS-18B rocket based on the 15A35 intercontinental ballistic missile of the UR-100NUTTKh strategic missile complex was used as a carrier. According to open sources, the experimental facility’s launch equipment for the R&D work "4202" was developed by the Design Bureau of Special Machine-Building (St. Petersburg) while the transport and technological equipment set was made by the Design Bureau "Motor" (a branch of the Center for the Operation of Ground-Based Space Infrastructure).

    Media outlets reported in July 2016, citing unnamed sources that the trials of the "object 4202" would be conducted along with the flight development tests of the prospective Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile.

    In his State of the Nation Address to the Federal Assembly on March 1, 2018, Russian President Vladimir Putin highlighted the Avangard missile complex with the maneuvering warhead. As the president noted, "the vehicle approaches the target like a fireball" while "being reliably guided." Strategic Missile Force Commander Sergei Karakayev said later on March 1 that the trials of the Avangard missile complex had been successfully completed.

    According to Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov, the Avangard system was "well tested," although it took great efforts to develop it. According to the defense official, the problem of guiding the vehicle and the issues of its protection were quite acute but solutions were found while the practical tests of this system "confirmed the operability of the approach that was selected.".

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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:47 am

    George1 wrote:Here says Avangard is Yu71/"4202".......

    I assumed it was obvious by now, descriptions and specs are identical

    You could merge topics
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:49 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    George1 wrote:Here says Avangard is Yu71/"4202".......

    I assumed it was obvious by now, descriptions and specs are identical

    You could merge topics

    Rubezh is the missile. Avangard is the warhead/object. If avangard is also launched from other missiles? Question
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:55 am

    George1 wrote:..........
    Rubezh is the missile. Avangard is the warhead/object. If avangard is also launched from other missiles? Question

    From what I remember Rubezh is new solid fuel ICBM (Yars replacement).

    Avangard is hypersonic glide vehicle so Yu71 and 4202 would be it's code numbers.

    And yes, Avangard can definitely be launched from different rockets, Yars or Topol was used for test launches. Sarmat: 3 Avangards, Yars: 1 Avangard.

    Articles about ''4202'' being tested successfully have been popping up since as early as 2016 so Avangard being ready for serial production now looks about right to me.
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    Re: Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (“object 4202”)

    Post  kvs on Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:20 pm

    I would surmise that Rubezh will have roughly the same size as Yars and the key difference is the rapidity of the launch. It
    seems like Russia has improved solid rocket fuel chemistry. We know that energy density roughly doubled compared to the 1980s
    allowing lighter rail based systems. But it appears to have gone even further over the last 15 years.


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