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    How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  par far on Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:50 pm

    I really want the EU to collapse, what can be done to make that happen? The collapse of the EU will be good for Russia and the true people of Europe.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:59 pm

    They are doing all of that themselves. - immigration and now threatening to sanctions poland.

    They are doing this to themselves. Lol

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  par far on Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:04 pm

    sepheronx wrote:They are doing all of that themselves. - immigration and now threatening to sanctions poland.

    They are doing this to themselves. Lol


    The US has been doing all kind of sabotage against Russian interests, so it only fair that Russia does the same to US interests, it is good to see EU collapsing, although it is slower than I would like.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:40 pm

    The EU was constructed to collapse so they can come up with the NWO solution for a self created problem. Mafia 101 scam.

    Depopulation of europe and replacing with non indegenous folk from other cultures and religions, while undermining indegenous folk and every attempt of selfprotection or contra opinions with "racism" accusation to shut up people and at the same time to steer up hate in them so they are not against government but against foreigners. 101 Political Vassal containment warfare against citizens or in other words Divide and Conquer.

    The finance sector is on top of that the key, privatization of all countries, nationalities and funds, budgets of nations into one pool and then transition it to the US private companies and banks in process over "marketing". 2030 it will be at its height and there will be progroms in finance, foreigners versus indegenous population and guess who gets blamed and announces draconian laws to contain the nazis in their own countries aswell Militarization and more hardcore direct control of militaries of ZOG NATO slaves under US command to bring the war to blame all shit on russia so the pissed off, hungry, abused, misstreated, hated and self hating indegenous european population, deprived of their nationality, heritage, ethnicity, culture gets a ventile to hate, march and damage everything russian.

    The constant switch between left and right parties which all do the same suck off Zionists wish of expansion of this project are fooling the masses and it is a proven concept that has always worked through history and it will work again.

    I would suggest and advice to prepare for a second life somewhere else but in europe or any central/eastern ZOG EU countries.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:49 pm

    Current crisis of Europe is not an issue of EU existing or not. It's an issue of mentality and values. A strong internal process can easily overcome external influences (even Zionist ones) but people of Europe are still too weak willed to kickstart it for good.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  par far on Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:42 pm

    Werewolf wrote:The EU was constructed to collapse so they can come up with the NWO solution for a self created problem. Mafia 101 scam.

    Depopulation of europe and replacing with non indegenous folk from other cultures and religions, while undermining indegenous folk and every attempt of selfprotection or contra opinions with "racism" accusation to shut up people and at the same time to steer up hate in them so they are not against government but against foreigners. 101 Political Vassal containment warfare against citizens or in other words Divide and Conquer.

    The finance sector is on top of that the key, privatization of all countries, nationalities and funds, budgets of nations into one pool and then transition it to the US private companies and banks in process over "marketing". 2030 it will be at its height and there will be progroms in finance, foreigners versus indegenous population and guess who gets blamed and announces draconian laws to contain the nazis in their own countries aswell Militarization and more hardcore direct control of militaries of ZOG   NATO slaves under US command to bring the war to blame all shit on russia so the pissed off, hungry, abused, misstreated, hated and self hating indegenous european population, deprived of their nationality, heritage, ethnicity, culture gets a ventile to hate, march and damage everything russian.

    The constant switch between left and right parties which all do the same suck off Zionists wish of expansion of this project are fooling the masses and it is a proven concept that has always worked through history and it will work again.  

    I would suggest and advice to prepare for a second life somewhere else but in europe or any central/eastern ZOG EU countries.

    So you are saying the same that happened to the Soviet Union(remember that Soviet Union was a creation of the Zionists), is going to happen to the EU? Do I have this right, it is going to take me some time for to wrap my head around this.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:03 pm

    par far wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:The EU was constructed to collapse so they can come up with the NWO solution for a self created problem. Mafia 101 scam.

    Depopulation of europe and replacing with non indegenous folk from other cultures and religions, while undermining indegenous folk and every attempt of selfprotection or contra opinions with "racism" accusation to shut up people and at the same time to steer up hate in them so they are not against government but against foreigners. 101 Political Vassal containment warfare against citizens or in other words Divide and Conquer.

    The finance sector is on top of that the key, privatization of all countries, nationalities and funds, budgets of nations into one pool and then transition it to the US private companies and banks in process over "marketing". 2030 it will be at its height and there will be progroms in finance, foreigners versus indegenous population and guess who gets blamed and announces draconian laws to contain the nazis in their own countries aswell Militarization and more hardcore direct control of militaries of ZOG   NATO slaves under US command to bring the war to blame all shit on russia so the pissed off, hungry, abused, misstreated, hated and self hating indegenous european population, deprived of their nationality, heritage, ethnicity, culture gets a ventile to hate, march and damage everything russian.

    The constant switch between left and right parties which all do the same suck off Zionists wish of expansion of this project are fooling the masses and it is a proven concept that has always worked through history and it will work again.  

    I would suggest and advice to prepare for a second life somewhere else but in europe or any central/eastern ZOG EU countries.

    So you are saying the same that happened to the Soviet Union(remember that Soviet Union was a creation of the Zionists), is going to happen to the EU? Do I have this right, it is going to take me some time for to wrap my head around this.

    Same project, just with a different setting and the outcome will be worse of the entire population. The europeans are already braindead fucked by US and the result after that EU fall will lobotomize the entire continent and drive the last portion of sanity out of existence. I would not recommend to be at that point in europe or prepare to chop of heads of the vassal politicians. Either slaughter against politicians or times in EU that will cause far more pain, death and war and they have prepared for it since decades and the last steps are the ABM shields to get it all set.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  par far on Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:35 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:The EU was constructed to collapse so they can come up with the NWO solution for a self created problem. Mafia 101 scam.

    Depopulation of europe and replacing with non indegenous folk from other cultures and religions, while undermining indegenous folk and every attempt of selfprotection or contra opinions with "racism" accusation to shut up people and at the same time to steer up hate in them so they are not against government but against foreigners. 101 Political Vassal containment warfare against citizens or in other words Divide and Conquer.

    The finance sector is on top of that the key, privatization of all countries, nationalities and funds, budgets of nations into one pool and then transition it to the US private companies and banks in process over "marketing". 2030 it will be at its height and there will be progroms in finance, foreigners versus indegenous population and guess who gets blamed and announces draconian laws to contain the nazis in their own countries aswell Militarization and more hardcore direct control of militaries of ZOG   NATO slaves under US command to bring the war to blame all shit on russia so the pissed off, hungry, abused, misstreated, hated and self hating indegenous european population, deprived of their nationality, heritage, ethnicity, culture gets a ventile to hate, march and damage everything russian.

    The constant switch between left and right parties which all do the same suck off Zionists wish of expansion of this project are fooling the masses and it is a proven concept that has always worked through history and it will work again.  

    I would suggest and advice to prepare for a second life somewhere else but in europe or any central/eastern ZOG EU countries.

    So you are saying the same that happened to the Soviet Union(remember that Soviet Union was a creation of the Zionists), is going to happen to the EU? Do I have this right, it is going to take me some time for to wrap my head around this.

    Same project, just with a different setting and the outcome will be worse of the entire population. The europeans are already braindead fucked by US and the result after that EU fall will lobotomize the entire continent and drive the last portion of sanity out of existence. I would not recommend to be at that point in europe or prepare to chop of heads of the vassal politicians. Either slaughter against politicians or times in EU that will cause far more pain, death and war and they have prepared for it since decades and the last steps are the ABM shields to get it all set.

    I am now getting what you are saying, the question I have is, what plan can Russia/we come up a plan to solve this problem?

    What I think we should do is, get our agent(something very trustworthy, smart and cunning) in Zionist circles and have the Zionists overthrow a government(say in Greece) and have our agent take over the government(like Poroshenko in Ukraine) and when he is elected, takes over all the power and invite Russia and the Russian Navy into the country(Greece in this example) and give the Zionists a shock.

    I know this is hard to believe and hard to do but if the Zionists can do it, Russia should be able to pull it off. Here is a good example, "Rothschild's agent Leon Trotsky was supposed to succeed Lenin but got sick at the critical moment. Stalin was able to assume power and save Russia from Rothschild control".

    This is an article that is an interesting read(it may not all go with this topic but it somewhat does.

    http://www.rense.com/general50/itle.htm

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:41 am

    Bah... the problem with the west is that it is lazy.

    It enjoys a nice standard of living and infrastructure with rights and privileges without any real effort... of course in the war of terror in the west a lot of those privileges are being taken away and things are being misused to maintain or increase the power of those with power.

    they will tell you all those CCDTVs around the place are for your protection... to stop crime... which sounds noble and worth it... do they tell you they also have microphones and can listen in to conversations?

    knowledge is power and that is too much power for burecrates... beware... they will use that knowledge to maintain power... not to make your life safer or better.

    Of course the more power you have the more paranoid you become that someone might take it away... the second most scary thing in the world for them is that their enemies get their ability to eavesdrop... the first most scary thing is if you found out what they did with all that information and decided to take that power away from them...


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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:58 pm

    par far wrote:
    I am now getting what you are saying, the question I have is, what plan can Russia/we come up a plan to solve this problem?

    What I think we should do is, get our agent(something very trustworthy, smart and cunning) in Zionist circles and have the Zionists overthrow a government(say in Greece) and have our agent take over the government(like Poroshenko in Ukraine) and when he is elected, takes over all the power and invite Russia and the Russian Navy into the country(Greece in this example) and give the Zionists a shock.

    I know this is hard to believe and hard to do but if the Zionists can do it, Russia should be able to pull it off.  Here is a good example, "Rothschild's agent Leon Trotsky was supposed to succeed Lenin but got sick at the critical moment. Stalin was able to assume power and save Russia from Rothschild control".

    This is an article that is an interesting read(it may not all go with this topic but it somewhat does.

    http://www.rense.com/general50/itle.htm

    Don't want to sound pessimistic but reality is there is no "plan" with actual reality to do that. There is a scene however to simulate that, you will figure out when it gets to obvious just wait 10 years and you will realize it but use "doublethink" to forget and reject it.

    You can not just have ONE agent and some little circle to overthrow an entire country, that is far to simple. The system that is used by US with its vassals fits and fills every single facette in the entire system to control the vassals. If you look at the system and the methods they use and what information/reward/punishment system they have for their vassals you get an actual idea that you couldn't do it without some major superiority complex of your country, big investment, being master in manipulation and propaganda which russia never was usually like germans victim of it but never understood how to use it not from people nor from the government, it were always outside forces that have formed the 5th columns. Sounds all to vague if you haven't looked into that matter for years.

    If i would ever suggest anything like that i would do 1:1 the exact methods like the zionists do but not any unspecified country but Israel and all major "joo" countries and undermine their religious fanatic unity to destroy this stupid made up superiority zionazism and let the people distance themselfs over decades from that fanatic religion and sooner or latter let them assimilate and forget this lobotomization of religious filth, only matter is it is the opposite what they exactly do to entire europe to be at the end the only white "race".

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    The EU will stop to exist in this current form , there is no question about that.

    Post  Singular_trafo on Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:40 pm

    I was few years ago at an english exam in England.It was for C1 catgeory, so everyone there has been teacher / engineer/doctor and so on.

    75 % of the participans come from Spain, all of them was young after university.

    In spain the young unemployment is 50%,the normal is 25%.

    This is due to the EU.

    It is the same for spain, france, italy,greece.

    Germany can go only because they "stealing" the market from the spanish/franc companies.


    Either the EU will be a true country , like the US, or it will fall into piceus in this decade.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:50 am

    Britain Wants Brexit - Poll

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The number of UK nationals supporting the country's exit from the European Union (Brexit) account for 43 percent, while the number of people from the Remain camp account for 42 percent, a recent poll by YouGov for The Sunday Times newspaper revealed.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160612/1041191561/brexit-poll-referendum.html#ixzz4BMDCIAdq


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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Zivo on Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:51 pm

    George1 wrote:Britain Wants Brexit - Poll

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The number of UK nationals supporting the country's exit from the European Union (Brexit) account for 43 percent, while the number of people from the Remain camp account for 42 percent, a recent poll by YouGov for The Sunday Times newspaper revealed.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160612/1041191561/brexit-poll-referendum.html#ixzz4BMDCIAdq

    Essentially, the polls have been inconclusive. It could go either way.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:27 pm

    There is a current in favor of Brexit lately. That's where I put my money.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:16 pm

    They don't have the balls for it, to me this is nothing more then a cute song and dance just like Greece. Rolling Eyes

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Zivo on Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:24 pm

    I'm expecting no-go by a paper thin margin, and a lot of reports of fraud.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Singular_trafo on Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:35 pm

    I think we have good chances now.

    The EU in this form won't serve us.

    I want either a strong, US like EU ,with independent military, foreign and financial politics/instituions, or nothing.

    At the moment the NATO serving US interest only, not the European interest.
    The EU doesn't has power, it serving the trade interest of germany, and the foreign policy interest of the US.

    The only power that could challange the US is the EU in military and economical grounds.

    That is the reason why the US doesn't support deeper EU integration, and try to keep it in this current zombie form.


    I think I will support the NO on the vote.

    I hope that it will either bring back the national states in europe, or make the core EU stronger.

    If Britain will stay in the EU then Spain , portugal, greece ,italy or france will destroy the EU, without deep changes.

    Both outcome better than the current, zombie state.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:26 pm

    In answer to the question posed in the thread title, the fastest way to collapse the EU would be for us to vote Brexit on the 23rd. Two reasons, money and politics.

    Currently the UK gives the EU a net sum of money somewhere between £8.5B and £11B depending upon who does the sums. The larger amount is probably more accurate given the need of the Government to minimise in public the cost of our membership. On top of that there are various other amounts that we pay to help other EU countries directly. This is a top three contribution to the EU running costs.

    So, imagine what will happen in Brussels if this money stops flowing. They will have to cut dramatically the costs of the EU bureaucracy and reduce the handouts and goodies that they bribe new countries with. The stresses this will cause can be barely imagined. Wonderful!

    Once the UK says, out, other political groupings in the EU that are agitating for the same, will gain much more strength and credibility.

    Faced with that I find the arrogance of the EU leaders absolutely astonishing. They did nothing, I repeat nothing to assist the UK Government in its argument to Brexin. One suspects that they did not have a clue that Brexit might win, assuming that everyone thought like them.

    Just as in the US, where Trump is likely to win, subject to voter fraud by the electronic voting machines, the powers that be seem to have completely misread the sentiments in their populations, blinded by the good life that they have engineered for themselves whilst crashing the living standards of their electors.




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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Kriva on Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:51 pm

    I'm in for EU regime destruction.

    Fingers cross for UK Exit campaigners - Britian get out of this Franco-German regime while you can.

    If this fails we need to hurt them where it hurts most and that's money. Germany is the key to brake up of EU regime - brake Germans and we are for a winner.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  OminousSpudd on Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:36 pm

    There's no way it will go through. Same with Greece. I would bet stacks of cash on it.... if I had stacks of cash. lol1

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Godric on Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:00 pm

    Kriva wrote:I'm in for EU regime destruction.

    Fingers cross for UK Exit campaigners - Britian get out of this Franco-German regime while you can.

    If this fails we need to hurt them where it hurts most and that's money. Germany is the key to brake up of EU regime - brake Germans and we are for a winner.

    UK leaves EU ... Scotland will leave the UK ... that ain't in doubt

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Kriva on Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:23 pm

    Godric wrote:
    Kriva wrote:I'm in for EU regime destruction.

    Fingers cross for UK Exit campaigners - Britian get out of this Franco-German regime while you can.

    If this fails we need to hurt them where it hurts most and that's money. Germany is the key to brake up of EU regime - brake Germans and we are for a winner.

    UK leaves EU ... Scotland will leave the UK ... that ain't in doubt

    As long as EU suffers as much as possible.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:24 am

    Godric wrote:
    Kriva wrote:I'm in for EU regime destruction.

    Fingers cross for UK Exit campaigners - Britian get out of this Franco-German regime while you can.

    If this fails we need to hurt them where it hurts most and that's money. Germany is the key to brake up of EU regime - brake Germans and we are for a winner.

    UK leaves EU ... Scotland will leave the UK ... that ain't in doubt
    An independent Scotland had a bit of a budget problem with oil sub $50.

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Godric on Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:14 am

    Kriva wrote:
    Godric wrote:
    Kriva wrote:I'm in for EU regime destruction.

    Fingers cross for UK Exit campaigners - Britian get out of this Franco-German regime while you can.

    If this fails we need to hurt them where it hurts most and that's money. Germany is the key to brake up of EU regime - brake Germans and we are for a winner.

    UK leaves EU ... Scotland will leave the UK ... that ain't in doubt

    As long as EU suffers as much as possible.

    much better than that it will blow a massive hole in Nato's defence strategy in a massive swathe of the northern Atlantic ... the Snp said they would join the Nato in their manifestos as a non nuclear member (that is the SNP covering their own arse) that won't happen because Nato would stipulate that Scotland as part of it's Nato membership would have to base the rUK's nuclear deterrent ... how do you think that will go ?? it will go along the lines of stick nato membership up yer arse ... resulting in the rUK's deterrent being based in either France, USA or abandon nukes altogether

    historically the SNP have always been hostile towards Nato from it's very inception several SNP MSPs resigned after nato membership was included in their manifesto ... the Snp were the only party in the UK openly against Nato bombing Serbia and Montenegro in 1999


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    Godric wrote:
    Kriva wrote:I'm in for EU regime destruction.

    Fingers cross for UK Exit campaigners - Britian get out of this Franco-German regime while you can.

    If this fails we need to hurt them where it hurts most and that's money. Germany is the key to brake up of EU regime - brake Germans and we are for a winner.

    UK leaves EU ... Scotland will leave the UK ... that ain't in doubt
    An independent Scotland had a bit of a budget problem with oil sub $50.

    yeah a loss of 1% of our economy that is how much we are dependent on oil unlike the UK on a whole our onshore economy at the same time grew at 3% last year the UK's exports for last year was £654 billion £79.5 billion of those exports were from Scotland not bad for a country with 8.3% (going by our population share our exports should have been around £54.28 billion) of the UK's population and when it comes to figures announced by IFS and GERS they are heavily slewed to make the Scottish economy look bad in those figures they have us paying for capital projects in England that we would not be paying for like the London Olympics, CrossRail, HS2, HS3, London Sewers (£1.3 Trillion) Trident replacement, New London Airport or a 3rd Runway at Heathrow etc etc see how the figures become manipulated in the UK's favour oh and the UK this year is expected to have a £80 billion trade deficit and needs to borrow a further £70 Billion

    watch the short Video admitting without realising how much better off Scotland would be  https://www.facebook.com/VoteSNP/videos/vb.1588840831358485/1751301391779094/?type=2&theater

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    Re: How to collapse the EU? - Brexit

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:54 pm

    Now they killed a British MP to keep Britain in EU.

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