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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:10 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Just today alone.. Ago 6 2016 in southern aleppo artillery base.
    is being reported.

    5 VBIED attacks on the Artillery Base today. JAF threw everything at the installation.

    So thats all , thats the only strategy of Terrorist. Send a bunch of kamikazi terrorist
    full of explosives to create a big bomb to open the defenses of Syrian Army.
    Again and Again and again. This is the only strategy Terrorist use. The o n l y one.
    send waves of suicide bombers with a mass assault behind.  

    and for the only reason this tactics works is because Russia is not propertly arming
    the Syrian army with the right weapons to counter it. Syrian Army needs to neutralize
    suicide bombers at the speed of light in one to three seconds. and not more. That is
    direct high caliber fire that is very precise and that can defeat infantery vehicles and reinforced trucks with steel. I assure people that if Syrian army had at least 20x to 30x - T-72 modern tanks with upgraded electronics and computer aided automatic targeting ,they will have not lost
    a single inch of territory.

    Russian Airforce cannot deal fast enough with such fast mobile targets using unguided bombs.
    Russia artillery is neither ideal to deal with fast moving terrorist. it creates a lot of smoke that helps terrorist to hide. Neither Kornets are ideal ,too slow as hell.  and can miss too because there is no easy way to control the missile on fast moving targets.

    So is total incompetence of the Russia military or Russia government , not providing Syria with the correct hardware to do the job. Because in all the videos of Syrian army i have seen , none
    of them have modern T-72. but instead just 2-4 leased T-90s ,that they Syrian army already lost two of them without a fight to ALnusra.

    So the ammount of suicide attacks in Alepo terrorist attemps to lift the siege is already in the
    20x if not more ,since the new offensive of terrorist began. As if you dont have fast precision high caliber fire.. at least the Syrian army needs to dig trenches to stop fast moving terrorist and slow down their movement significantly for easy kill. Terrorist even use Motorbikes
    with explosives , for incredibly fast suicide attacks.  Terrorist can use artillery attacks on Syrian army positions to cover the terrorist fast movements.

    Even if the Syrian army recovers all lost ground in aleppo after few days ago , i still will consider
    the tactics not the correct ones to deal with suicide car bombers. The correct tactics will not
    allow terrorist to even get close to the Syrian army positions.

    But again incompetence of Russia for not properly arming the Syrian army.
    Suicide bombers full of tnt can wipe a large zone if not stopped fast. is as simple as that.



    Jihadist rebels capture key military base in southern Aleppo

    Aleppo, Syria (10:15 A.M.) – As of 4 A.M. on Saturday morning, the jihadist rebels of Jaysh Al-Fateh (Army of Conquest) have been full control of the Aleppo Artillery Base, marking a successful conclusion to the third phase of their large-scale offensive.

    According to a military source in the Aleppo Governorate, the Syrian Armed Forces were unable to maintain their last line of defense after Jaysh Al-Fateh launched several VBIED (vehicle borne improvised explosive device) attacks at the southern perimeter of the base.

    With the Artillery Base under their control, the jihadist rebels are now in position to lift the three week long siege on the eastern neighborhoods of the provincial capital.

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    Rebels now withing hours to lift the siege. and Embarrasment not only for Syrian army
    but also for mediocre Russian military leadership.  A Russian soldier even died a month ago or so ,to such retarded tactics.. using regular assault rifle to fight a pickup  full with explosives.
    they will continue losing soldiers until someone there gets a clue , that you need to stop
    very fast suicide bombers before they get too close ,not but or  if . but thats the only way.
    and combat jets using unguided bombs are not ideal to fight that.






    Nope, they aren't, they're going back from the initial contact point because there's a push for the Techinical college. The most interesting thing is that they're using VBIEDS to push ahead, but aren't following as fast.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Project Canada on Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:32 pm




    OVER 300 TERRORISTS KILLED IN CLASHES WITH GOVT FORCES IN SOUTHWESTERN ALEPPO

    More than 300 terrorists were killed and many more were wounded during clashes with the Syrian government forces in Southern and Southwestern Aleppo.

    More than 300 terrorists were killed and many more were wounded during clashes with the Syrian government forces in Southern and Southwestern Aleppo.

    Terrorists’ defense lines in the Southern farms of military academies were targeted by Syrian soldiers and the popular forces. As result, 6 tanks, 3 bomb-laden vehicles, and a number of vehicles equipped with machineguns and artillery were destroyed, and at least 300 terrorists were killed in the battlefield.

    At the same time, concentrations of terrorists were crushed and scores of their vehicles was destroyed by the Syrian Air Force along the roads between Khan Touman and the military academies, Bazo hill and the academies, al-Hikmeh School and the academies, Oram al-Kubra and Aleppo city, and al-Zerba and Aleppo city.

    On Friday, military sources said that the way for a major rapid advance of the Syrian army and its allies against the terrorist groups in Southern districts of Aleppo city was paved by heavy bombardments of Russian warplanes.

    Jeish al-Fatah terrorists were drove back from the entire territories of al-Amariyeh districts by the Syrian army’s Republican Guard, backed by Hezbollah and the National Defense Forces (NDF).

    A crucial role in the Syrian army’s advances was played by the Russian fighter jets.

    So, even in the event of American sponsored Terrorist take over of SAA positions, the Russians can simply bomb the hell out of them so fresh SAA units can re occupy these areas. attack

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Resistance on Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:49 pm

    What Sun Tzu would do:

    1. Place dozens of Smerchs at Aleppo airport and Kuweiries airbase and shell the shit out of 1070 to destroy the jihadists staging area.

    2. Several Tu-214R and Il-20M recon planes and dozens of Shahed 129 recon / attack planes in the skies of Aleppo 27  / 7.

    3. Dead jihadists with 0 casualty on our side.

    It's really that simple. I'm not sure why Russians and Iranians are not doing that. They are just watching millions in western Aleppo get besieged by terrorists and not doing anything about it Rolling Eyes

    I'm a direct descent of Sun Tzu, the greatest military commander that ever lived. And I approve this message cheers


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Resistance on Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:54 pm

    SDF taken Manbij. Manbij is bigger than Idlib city. That's how big it is. Like I said, Americans never betray their friends. That's why Americans are loved everywhere in the world and have hundreds of allies in the world. What do Russians do for SAA? Pulling planes out of Latakia. Talking to Israel behind SAA's back. Don't do that man. That'll made Russians lose its few remaining allies in the world. Even Indians are going for American hardware instead of Russian hardware.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Resistance on Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:04 pm

    SVBIEDs are easy targets for Shahed 129 planes. It's not like there are hundreds of SVBIEDs. Only a few made out of BMPs. Dozens of Shahed 129 planes should be in the skies of Aleppo at any time, destroying SVBIEDs kilometers from the front line. Question. Where on earth are the Shahed 129 planes? Jihadists are operating in open terrain in broad daylight. Easy to neutralize by air power.

    Kornets have auto track. Kornets easily destroy SVBIEDs day and night from kilometers away.

    No Shahed 129 planes, no Kornet emplacements, no counter battery radars. SAA is practically a WW2 level army having a few WW2 level artillery pieces compared to thousands of artillery pieces used in WW2 battles. This is not acceptable.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:24 pm

    If correct, that's only a small gap to breakthrough. Mind you its not going to do much apart from provide a death route for the terrorists. More the merrier into the cauldron that is East Aleppo.

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    Post  Resistance on Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:29 pm

    JohninMK wrote:If correct, that's only a small gap to breakthrough. Mind you its not going to do much apart from provide a death route for the terrorists. More the merrier into the cauldron that is East Aleppo.

    If they widen the salient by taking Ramouseh and the water treatment facility, all that would have to be bombed. Heck, all of Syria have to be bombed to dust if they take over Syria. But that's okay. Russia bombs Syria and Syria is not part of Russia. But what happens if Americans use jihadists to start war in Russia. Russia would have to be bombed to dust if jihadists take over Russia.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:32 pm

    A map via Peto showing assault routes

    Perun ‏@eqwilibirum 3h3 hours ago

    @Syria_Protector @PetoLucem i think this one is most accurate atm but yea HOT ATM by @MikhailTolstyk


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Project Canada on Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:38 pm

    Resistance wrote: USA and KSA would have to be bombed to dust if jihadists take over Russia.

    There, corrected it for you Rolling Eyes

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Resistance on Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:42 pm

    Project Canada wrote:
    Resistance wrote: USA and KSA would have to be bombed to dust if jihadists take over Russia.

    There, corrected it for you Rolling Eyes

    If Russia uses nukes, the west would use nukes on Russia. The goal of the west is to kill every Russian. The west don't even bother with partition like in Yugoslavia. The west's strategy is Hitler's scorched earth. The west's strategy is kill every Russian man, woman, child. The west hate Russians because Russians have the world's biggest land.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Project Canada on Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:08 pm

    Resistance wrote:
    Project Canada wrote:
    Resistance wrote: USA and KSA would have to be bombed to dust if jihadists take over Russia.

    There, corrected it for you Rolling Eyes

    If Russia uses nukes, the west would use nukes on Russia. The goal of the west is to kill every Russian. The west don't even bother with partition like in Yugoslavia. The west's strategy is Hitler's scorched earth. The west's strategy is kill every Russian man, woman, child. The west hate Russians because Russians have the world's biggest land.

    So what? Every single western man, woman and child will be exterminated too, along with everyone else on the planet, Russia wins cause west has more to lose russia

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:19 pm

    Project Canada wrote:
    Resistance wrote: USA and KSA would have to be bombed to dust if jihadists take over Russia.

    There, corrected it for you Rolling Eyes
    Please don't quote him/she/it. It bypasses the ignore system.

    If you must comment, just comment.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:24 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Just today alone.. Ago 6 2016 in southern aleppo artillery base.
    is being reported.

    5 VBIED attacks on the Artillery Base today. JAF threw everything at the installation.



    So thats all , thats the only strategy of Terrorist. Send a bunch of kamikazi terrorist
    full of explosives to create a big bomb to open the defenses of Syrian Army.
    Again and Again and again. This is the only strategy Terrorist use. The o n l y one.
    send waves of suicide bombers with a mass assault behind.  

    Any moron with full set of testicles, half a brain and RPG can easily handle SVIBED. I would say Syrians are too distracted by abundance of free advanced hardware that was gifted to them to make honest effort of using it to fight the enemy.


    So is total incompetence of the Russia military or Russia government , not providing Syria with the correct hardware to do the job. Because in all the videos of Syrian army i have seen , none
    of them have modern T-72. but instead just 2-4 leased T-90s ,that they Syrian army already lost two of them without a fight to ALnusra.

    And this is why it's wasteful and counterproductive to give too much hardware to SAA. It just distracts them and makes them believe that they somehow can hope to live to see end of war. Strategy must be adapted to type of troops that fight the war. Approach that emphasized keeping troops alive that was used so far is not working. Time to go with less metal and more meat. It works for jihadists, will work even better for SAA.


    ......  A Russian soldier even died a month ago or so ,to such retarded tactics.. .

    And he died because Syrians abandoned their posts and ran away. But he did stop that SVIBED with just an assault rifle thus proving it can easily be done if there is will to do it. It was a tragedy and those SAA pigs should have been executed for desertion. But hopefuly they are posted now in the artilery base where they are being slaughtered as we speak. Justice will be done.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:37 pm

    As a more positive note:
    1. Kinsibba is surrounded by SAA: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-surrounds-kinsibba-northeast-latakia/
    2. Situation at the Artillery Base is still fluid. Large SAA reinforcements have arrived and guess who is with them? No one else but Major General Suheil Al Hassan:

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Project Canada on Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:40 pm


    I apologize for quoting posters who are in some people's ignore list. I will avoid responding to their provocative posts.

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