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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:01 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    The Ottoman wrote:All those jihadi's and rebels, if they would focus or attack Israel, the real enemy instead of Syria, Iraq or Libya, how a change would that have been?

    Why are muslims killing muslims and not killing jews?

    https://www.facebook.com/ummethaberajansi/videos/284650581892923/

    Wouldn't preferable solution be to skip the killing altogether?

    Because IS, FSA, Nursa, Al-Qaeda, "moderate rebels",... were selected and feed by the White House, and probably, her allies in Tel Aviv.

    I agree with Papa Dragon, though. The best solution is peaceful coexistence rather than killing each others.
    No ISIS hostile activity against Israel is known. The only public contact between them was the stories of the IAF taking in injured ISIS terrorists as humanitarian activity. The others seem to avoid Israel as well which is probably not surprising given the rumoured funding/organisational and known supply routes. Especially all that stolen oil that seemed to end up at one of the biggest 'no questions asked' destinations, Israel.

    Israel is possibly the biggest strategic beneficiary of what has happened in Syria as Syria as a potential adversary has virtually disappeared.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Alex555 on Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:10 am

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Project Canada on Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:43 am



    NEW SYRIAN ‘OPPOSITION GROUP’ DEMANDS EXCHANGE FOR BODIES OF RUSSIAN DOWNED MI-8’S CREW

    A previously unknown Syrian group said on August 4 that it had the bodies of the Russian military, who died in the crash of the Mi-8, Reuters reported on Thursday.

    The group, calling itself General Foundation for Prisoners’ Affairs, still has not appeared in the information space.

    According to Reuters, terrorists offered to give the bodies of Russians in exchange for the release of prisoners held in Syrian government jails and by Damascus’s Lebanese Shi’ite ally Hezbollah in Lebanon. The names and number of people, to be exchanged, were not specified.

    The group also demanded an end to the Aleppo siege set by the Syrian army and its allies, and for the delivery of significant amounts of humanitarian aid to people living in besieged areas, Reuters reported.

    https://southfront.org/syrian-group-demands-exchange-for-bodies-of-russian-downed-mi-8s-crew/

    Yeah dead bodies in exchange for prisoners and an end to airstrikes, and they even have the guts to DEMAND it??!? Just who the F do they think they are?? Laughing Mad
    I say respond with more Thermobaric bombings until they are reduced to smoking smithereens!

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:48 am


    Thermobaric weapons will not damage remains of the crew. This is good suggestion.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Project Canada on Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:43 pm


    ALEPPO SIEGE IS NEARLY BROKEN – JIHADI SOURCES

    Pro-Jihadi sources reported that the Jaish al-Fatah operation room (it includes Al Nusra) has sezied the Aleppo Artillery Base in southern Aleppo almost breaking the siege laid by the Syrian army on the jihadi-controlled parts of the city. The operation had been launched with a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED) attack.




    I just took a nap and when I woke up now its like this Rolling Eyes i seriously hope this is just inaccurate info

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:39 pm


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Zivo on Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:00 pm

    It looks like the rebels got some VBIED's to the base's perimeter and got in close enough to use small arms, but were pushed back. Stuck their foot in the door, but only managed to get it shot off by the SAA and russian airforce.

    There appears to be a coordinated disinfo campaign right now. Anyways, it looks like "phase 4" is going the same way as one, two, and three.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Resistance on Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:06 pm

    Why don't Russia supply counter battery radars? Where are the IRGC's Shahed 129 planes? These should be all over Aleppo. Everywhere. Day and night. Don't give jihadists any breathing room. Hit them 24 7. It's ridiculous thousands of jihadists are allowed to regroup, plan, launch offensives at will. If this is Israel, all of those jihadists be dead in hours.

    Russia and Iranians are being way too lenient on these fags who desecrated the bodies of Russian servicemen. Where is the public anger in Russia? Don't Russian people give a damn Putin is playing the lives of Russian servicemen like toys? Geez man. If this happened to US servicemen, the US air force be all over jihadists. This happens to Russian servicemen. Nothing. Putin is way to soft. The Russian public is way too soft. What happened to the current generation of Russians, the grandchildren of the people who fought and defeated Nazis?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Zivo on Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:34 pm

    lol, people making shit of Jihadi Julian.



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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Zivo on Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:55 pm

    As of a half an hour ago, via Sidorenko, from terrorist sources.



    Easy to understand, the terrorists who made it inside are fucked, and they're still fighting on the walls, awaiting reinforcements. Apparently the SAA has reinforcements from satan himself.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:02 pm

    Zivo wrote:As of a half an hour ago, via Sidorenko, from terrorist sources.

    https://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/17/78/62/48/cph6yg10.jpg

    Easy to understand, the terrorists who made it inside are fucked, and they're still fighting on the walls, awaiting reinforcements. Apparently the SAA has reinforcements from satan himself.

    Well alQaida called Hind gunships ''Satan's chariot'' so they might be referring to certain countries' air force? Cool

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Resistance on Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:19 pm

    This shit is crazy. How on earth did Russia and Syria allow thousands of jihadists to group less than a km from a major base? Why is Russian intel so bad? Where is that Tu-214R? Those jihadists should have been tracked 24 7 and eliminated at night by swarms of Shahed 129 planes.

    Millions of people in Aleppo today came within a hair's width of being cut off and besieged. The base only held because the soldiers there were ordered to not retreat at any cost. This was a fucked up day.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Zivo on Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:25 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Zivo wrote:As of a half an hour ago, via Sidorenko, from terrorist sources.

    https://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/17/78/62/48/cph6yg10.jpg

    Easy to understand, the terrorists who made it inside are fucked, and they're still fighting on the walls, awaiting reinforcements. Apparently the SAA has reinforcements from satan himself.

    Well alQaida called Hind gunships ''Satan's chariot'' so they might be referring to certain countries' air force? Cool

    There's reports of heavy ongoing airstrikes from the usual activists.

    Sidorenko posted a message from a SAA soldier in Aleppo who had contact with the Ramouseh garrison, and reported that the rebels who tried to infiltrate the base are all dead, the SAA hold the schools inside the base, and will soon hold/retake 1070.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Resistance on Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:28 pm

    The west is developing its strategy of taking down Russia in Syria. Send a bunch of jihadists into a city. Russia bomb the city flat. Send more jihadists. Rinse and repeat. As long as Russia loses control of the border, it's all over for Russia. Russia must not let Syria fall, or else Russia will be destroyed by western backed jihadists.

    Again, my concern is, why is Russian intel so bad that thousands of jihadists were assembling within a few hundred meters of a major base without being noticed? This is a serious weakness that will surely be exploited by the west.

    The Hmeimim base in Latakia might not be so safe after all. Watch out for tunnel bombs.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:46 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Zivo wrote:As of a half an hour ago, via Sidorenko, from terrorist sources.

    https://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/17/78/62/48/cph6yg10.jpg

    Easy to understand, the terrorists who made it inside are fucked, and they're still fighting on the walls, awaiting reinforcements. Apparently the SAA has reinforcements from satan himself.

    Well alQaida called Hind gunships ''Satan's chariot'' so they might be referring to certain countries' air force? Cool

    First time I see the Syrians show Kremlin size balls.

    Hizb was also active.

    And as usual, VKS in da house baby.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:17 pm


    Things are tense, survival of the fittest tonight

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    Jihadists inside the artillery base in Aleppo right now. Very intense clashes


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  zorobabel on Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:57 pm

    Damn it. Those terrorists are making steady progress. Leith says they control 50% of the artillery base.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Zivo on Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:07 am

    zorobabel wrote:Damn it. Those terrorists are making steady progress. Leith says they control 50% of the artillery base.

    As of now, there has only been video footage of rebel positions in these two locations.



    The base is such a small area, if the JF terrorists have yet to capture it, they never will. Russian airstrikes have been continuous according to both sides.

    Here's a screenshot from a JF drone showing the moment a russian cluster bomb hits the frontline. You can easily compare these two images to show just how shit of a situation the jihadists attacking this base are in. A couple of decent hits, and hours of progress, dozens of lives are gone.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Resistance on Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:11 am

    Why aren't there Shahed 129 planes swarming the skies? These things have thermal and are deadly at night.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:11 am

    ARtillery school is a really important place, according to leith it have about 1 year
    worth of Ammunition inside. If terrorist take control of it , it will be a major
    set back for SAA in terms of Supplies.  For this kind of close combat , Russian combat jets
    are not the ideal one ,since it can hit too SAA positions. You need Attack Helicopters lead by tanks to push back the terrorist.

    As always the terrorist tactics are always the same ,  waves of mobile trucks or pickups
    with half a ton of TNT .  nothing of this attacks could happen where terrorist are allowed to get very close had the Syrian army was properly armed with T-72 tanks with computer guided targeting using direct fire. it will disable any suicide bomber before it reach its place.

    I keep saying this , Russian tactics are not the best ones ,because its airforce allows
    the terrorist to get close to SYrian army ,and is not arming Syrian army to deal with very Fast waves of suicide bombers. you need to eliminate terrorist quick and without using much explosive ,because it create smoke that helps to cover terrorist advance from behind. So Kinetic attacks ,high caliber bullets to stop trucks and pickups with tnt is the most ideal weapon.

    A  gun like this..



    Will make things much more easier for Syrian army..

    and for armored trucks , a higher caliber 30mm gatling fun should do the job.

    Russia needs to get a Land mobile version of their Naval Kashtan CIWS...
    to deal with waves of terrorist. and mount it on an armata tank.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Кортик_на_корвете_Стерегущий.jpg

    Because just 2-3 suicide bombers trucks one after the other, force Syrian army to retreat
    in many situations.

    also a couple of dozens of T-72 upgraded tanks with precision targeting ,could do the job too.
    Terrorist suicide bombers can wipe anything 300m to 500m distance from the target.

    NATO and the gulf states could send literary 20 suicide bombers if it needs
    to , to open a breach in any defensive line.  terrorist tactics is always the same..
    Mass waves of suicide bombers in bikes ,pickups or trucks,rushing to one defense
    line and breaking it.  Also something as simple as a deep trenches could significantly delay such
    attacks.

    Still if terrorist manage to open the siege , the terrorist could be trapped inside.  we will see.
    but whatever it is , Russia small airforce is not enough  to stop the offensive of terrorist or even block them from advancing in a frontal attack.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:02 am

    Project Canada wrote:
    Pro-Jihadi sources reported that the Jaish al-Fatah operation room (it includes Al Nusra) has sezied the Aleppo Artillery Base in southern Aleppo (...)

    Just 1/2 of it.

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/battle-aleppo-intensifies-jihadists-enter-artillery-base/?utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=push&utm_campaign=push+notifications&utm_content=English

    The military source added that the jihadists seized half of the base before they were forestalled by the Syrian Armed Forces. With reinforcements pouring into the base with every passing second, it is unlikely that the Syrian Army will give up easy on the base.

    May be I am too optimistic, but should the jihadist make some more advances like this, they will soon out of manpower.

    As long as SAA keep the city sealed, they will win this war of attrition.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Solncepek on Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:15 am

    I am not sure.
    Saa is out of manpower too.
    In fact the rebel groups outnumber syrian forces at Aleppo vastly!
    Not to mention the quality of the soldiers from both sides..

    The most experienced loyalist's forces are stacked at Aleppo and
    they lose manpower for sure.
    In the future their losses will not be replenish unlike jihadists, who will receive fresh reinforcements outside...!


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:53 am

    VBIEDS, VBIEDS... What's SAA tactics against them? IMHO a combination of anti-vehicle ditches, obstacles and dense minefields quickly laid by MLRS should be fairy effective in stopping even a massive VBIED swarm.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:45 am

    Just today alone.. Ago 6 2016 in southern aleppo artillery base.
    is being reported.

    5 VBIED attacks on the Artillery Base today. JAF threw everything at the installation.

    So thats all , thats the only strategy of Terrorist. Send a bunch of kamikazi terrorist
    full of explosives to create a big bomb to open the defenses of Syrian Army.
    Again and Again and again. This is the only strategy Terrorist use. The o n l y one.
    send waves of suicide bombers with a mass assault behind.  

    and for the only reason this tactics works is because Russia is not propertly arming
    the Syrian army with the right weapons to counter it. Syrian Army needs to neutralize
    suicide bombers at the speed of light in one to three seconds. and not more. That is
    direct high caliber fire that is very precise and that can defeat infantery vehicles and reinforced trucks with steel. I assure people that if Syrian army had at least 20x to 30x - T-72 modern tanks with upgraded electronics and computer aided automatic targeting ,they will have not lost
    a single inch of territory.

    Russian Airforce cannot deal fast enough with such fast mobile targets using unguided bombs.
    Russia artillery is neither ideal to deal with fast moving terrorist. it creates a lot of smoke that helps terrorist to hide. Neither Kornets are ideal ,too slow as hell.  and can miss too because there is no easy way to control the missile on fast moving targets.

    So is total incompetence of the Russia military or Russia government , not providing Syria with the correct hardware to do the job. Because in all the videos of Syrian army i have seen , none
    of them have modern T-72. but instead just 2-4 leased T-90s ,that they Syrian army already lost two of them without a fight to ALnusra.

    So the ammount of suicide attacks in Alepo terrorist attemps to lift the siege is already in the
    20x if not more ,since the new offensive of terrorist began. As if you dont have fast precision high caliber fire.. at least the Syrian army needs to dig trenches to stop fast moving terrorist and slow down their movement significantly for easy kill. Terrorist even use Motorbikes
    with explosives , for incredibly fast suicide attacks.  Terrorist can use artillery attacks on Syrian army positions to cover the terrorist fast movements.

    Even if the Syrian army recovers all lost ground in aleppo after few days ago , i still will consider
    the tactics not the correct ones to deal with suicide car bombers. The correct tactics will not
    allow terrorist to even get close to the Syrian army positions.

    But again incompetence of Russia for not properly arming the Syrian army.
    Suicide bombers full of tnt can wipe a large zone if not stopped fast. is as simple as that.



    Jihadist rebels capture key military base in southern Aleppo

    Aleppo, Syria (10:15 A.M.) – As of 4 A.M. on Saturday morning, the jihadist rebels of Jaysh Al-Fateh (Army of Conquest) have been full control of the Aleppo Artillery Base, marking a successful conclusion to the third phase of their large-scale offensive.

    According to a military source in the Aleppo Governorate, the Syrian Armed Forces were unable to maintain their last line of defense after Jaysh Al-Fateh launched several VBIED (vehicle borne improvised explosive device) attacks at the southern perimeter of the base.

    With the Artillery Base under their control, the jihadist rebels are now in position to lift the three week long siege on the eastern neighborhoods of the provincial capital.

    [/b]


    Rebels now withing hours to lift the siege. and Embarrasment not only for Syrian army
    but also for mediocre Russian military leadership. A Russian soldier even died a month ago or so ,to such retarded tactics.. using regular assault rifle to fight a pickup full with explosives.
    they will continue losing soldiers until someone there gets a clue , that you need to stop
    very fast suicide bombers before they get too close ,not but or if . but thats the only way.
    and combat jets using unguided bombs are not ideal to fight that.






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