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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:26 pm

    Some pictures have been leaked of the Mi-28N that crashed recently.

    You can see that the design of shock absorbing of the fuselage and landing gear have performed well and the fuselage has been warped to reduce the impact on the pilots.


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    In comperision with some pictures of older Mi-24 that have crashed and the wreckage burned, it had only some basic parts of the steel construction and titanium armor, rest was comprimized out of its structural form to aluminium "ashes" while on Mi-28N only the outer skin that was made of aluminium alloy melted away, leaving the titanium and structure intact.

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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  mack8 on Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:14 pm

    Check this out, not only a Mi-35 with full defensive suite (MAWS+DIRCM?) but also finally a Mi-28 with same! Is that the NM?
    http://missiles2go.ru/2015/08/23/maks-2015-dva-dnia-do-nachala/

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    Post  Berkut on Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:01 pm

    Not NM itself, but probably has NM's sensors. Both the Mi-35M and Mi-28N on display are geared towards export. Speaking of which, first Mi-28NM is completed.

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    Post  mack8 on Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:02 pm

    Berkut wrote:Not NM itself, but probably has NM's sensors. Both the Mi-35M and Mi-28N on display are geared towards export. Speaking of which, first Mi-28NM is completed.

    Would be very interesting to see what changes the NM has.
    Do you know if it is confirmed that the ball under the fuselage is a DIRCM, or is it just an EO sensor of some sort? Thanks.

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    Post  Werewolf on Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:09 pm

    mack8 wrote:
    Berkut wrote:Not NM itself, but probably has NM's sensors. Both the Mi-35M and Mi-28N on display are geared towards export. Speaking of which, first Mi-28NM is completed.

    Would be very interesting to see what changes the NM has.
    Do you know if it is confirmed that the ball under the fuselage is a DIRCM, or is it just an EO sensor of some sort? Thanks.

    The housing of this device looks unmoveable, and the "eye" looks similiar to the eye of the MAW sensor at the tip almost like a fish eye in appearance. So i would guess it is a MAWS that covers the lower hemisphere of the helicopter, while no other helicopter i've seen covers that angle.

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    Post  zackyx on Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:55 pm

    The writing on the nose of the mi-28 is in french :

    NE PAS PEINDRE = DO NOT PAINT
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    UB version

    Really high chance that this is the version for Algeria.

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    Ataka from iraqui Mi-28




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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  Flyboy77 on Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:24 am

    zackyx wrote:
    Ataka from iraqui Mi-28




    Well that's a miss. Wink

    Time for missile two.

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    Post  medo on Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:28 pm

    Placing both LWR and MAWS sensors on those wingtip pods is an excellent idea. They could replace old pods with those new ones on all Mi-28N helicopters. It is an easy modernization without much work to do. Only to integrate MAWS sensors in ESM suite.

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    Post  Werewolf on Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:19 pm

    medo wrote:Placing both LWR and MAWS sensors on those wingtip pods is an excellent idea. They could replace old pods with those new ones on all Mi-28N helicopters. It is an easy modernization without much work to do. Only to integrate MAWS sensors in ESM suite.

    They could aslo combine those pods right now with DIRCM pods we have seen years ago for Mi-28N and they can relocate the Flares further behind the engines like on Hinds. I think having DIRCM and MAWS closer together can make the DIRCM's more accurate when it is directed by MAWS from a very aligned position rather having to calculate and having probably higher error probability like on Ka-52.

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    Post  Viktor on Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:03 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    The newest helmet-mounted system for Mi-28nm represented at the MAKS-2015

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    Post  Austin on Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:29 pm

    "Helicopters of Russia": initiated the development of high-speed combat helicopter

    Interview : Deputy General Director of holding "Helicopters of Russia", Grigory Kozlov

    http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2015/09/02/357333.html

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:13 am

    "As part of the" speed "we have developed a new technology and a new design solution of the rotor, which gives a significant speed boost. We can apply the technological advance, resulting in the implementation of the program on Mi-28NM"

    Upgraded "Night Hunter" exceeds the prototype in speed

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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:16 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:"As part of the" speed "we have developed a new technology and a new design solution of the rotor, which gives a significant speed boost. We can apply the technological advance, resulting in the implementation of the program on Mi-28NM"

    Upgraded "Night Hunter" exceeds the prototype in speed

    Will be probably a sleek looking aircraft with those changes.

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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  Militarov on Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:57 pm

    "Ramenskoye Avionics Design Bureau, incorporated by Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern, has supplied the customer with the first pilot examples of onboard avionics for the Mi-28NM helicopter enabling it to interact with unmanned aerial vehicles, Daniil Brenerman, the Bureau Director General, told the Russian news agency TASS. "The Ramenskoye Bureau is creating avionics for the Mi-28NM helicopter. The first pilot examples have been delivered to the customer in 2015," Brenerman said.

    According to him, the Mi-28NM avionics differs from the existing system in being lighter and smaller and having an "all-glass cockpit." In addition, it uses high-speed optic communication lines between the system subunits and has an expanded capability for using new weapon types. Also, the avionics of the upgraded Nochnoi Okhotnik -"Night Hunter"- interacts with the helicopter armaments and unmanned aerial vehicles. In addition, it has a helmet-mounted target designation and indication system.



    Creation of the Mi-28NM began in 2009. The upgraded version essentially differs from its prototype. The component package of the Mi-28NM onboard radar equipment will include an innovative helmet-mounted target designation and indication system. The helicopter is fitted with new N025 radar enabling all-round surveillance. The flying vehicle is fitted with a new EW suite comprising an anti-missile laser. The helicopter is designed for search and destruction, by day and night in simple and adverse weather conditions, of low-speed air targets, tanks, armored and unarmored hardware and enemy manpower."


    Source: http://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/archive-world-worldwide-news-air-force-aviation-aerospace-air-military-defence-industry/global-news-2015/november/2163-new-onboard-avionics-for-the-mi-28nm-attack-helicopters-now-enables-interactions-with-uavs.html

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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  DerWolf on Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:46 pm

    Does the Mi-28 have the President-S system, I haven't noticed it? Ka-52 already have it, but i find strange a modern attack helicopter like mi-28 not to have that.

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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  Militarov on Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:57 pm

    DerWolf wrote:Does the Mi-28 have the President-S system, I haven't noticed it? Ka-52 already have it, but i find strange a modern attack helicopter like mi-28 not to have that.

    If you order it with President you will get it, its not considered as standard package. Ofc you can choose only parts and subsystems of whole President to be installed and not whole thing, depends on what you want and how deep your pockets are.

    It was spotted till now on Mi17 variants, Mi26, Mi28, Ka52 and KA27, its basically stand alone system it does not need to be slaved to anything onboard since everything is being processed by its own control unit that has own "brain".

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    Post  Werewolf on Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:43 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    DerWolf wrote:Does the Mi-28 have the President-S system, I haven't noticed it? Ka-52 already have it, but i find strange a modern attack helicopter like mi-28 not to have that.

    If you order it with President you will get it, its not considered as standard package. Ofc you can choose only parts and subsystems of whole President to be installed and not whole thing, depends on what you want and how deep your pockets are.

    It was spotted till now on Mi17 variants, Mi26, Mi28, Ka52 and KA27, its basically stand alone system it does not need to be slaved to anything onboard since everything is being processed by its own control unit that has own "brain".

    President-S is just an upgrade to any plattform but what you want to see is Vitebsk it is a TWICMS (Threat Warning, Identification and Counter Measure System) that uses sensor fusion to process information to give counter measures to different threats and give pilot information of direction of attack and i wouldn't be suprised if it has Shtora like capability when lazed by Laser Rangefinder or Designator and point weapons to the source or provide information of where it comes from so he can gun it down.

    Vitebsk is going to be in Mi-28NM. Mil was either lazy or kind of struggled/struggling with the problem they have with the Arbalet radar of CMW L-band radar for air-to-air coverage 360° azimuth. However appreantly a NM upgrade of Vitebsk was already shown.

    Here link to the link with many pictures of new wing tip pods with MAWS, LWR and dispensers while a single DIRCM ball is spotted beneath.

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t517p285-mi-28n-news#116903

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    Post  DerWolf on Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:47 pm

    Does anyone known when will we see MI-28NM?

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    Post  franco on Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:15 pm

    DerWolf wrote:Does anyone known when will we see MI-28NM?

    Trials in 2016

    http://tass.ru/en/russia/816019

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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:48 pm

    Russia Developing Advanced Laser Guidance System for Mi-28 Gunships (VIDEO)

    Russia is developing a multifunction image processing system and an upgraded laser guidance system for guided weapons for its newest Mi-28NM attack helicopter.

    RYAZAN (Sputnik) – Russia is creating a modernized weapons guidance system for its newest Mi-28NM (NATO reporting name "Havoc") attack helicopter, the head of Russia's Ryazan State Instrument-Making Enterprise said Thursday.

    "As part of the development work, a multifunction image processing system and an upgraded laser guidance system for guided weapons is being developed. Both products are different from previously available analogues, with a whole range of upgraded technical characteristics in accordance with the required technical specifications and the best possible solution for issues of import substitution," Pavel Budagov told RIA Novosti.

    The Mi-28NM is a modernized version of the Mi-28N Night Hunter attack helicopter that is being upgraded to a fifth-generation aircraft, which has been in development since 2008.

    Since the start of the development, Russia had received more than 10 export orders for helicopters of this type.



    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160310/1036055359/mi-28-guidance-systems.html#ixzz42V3Fxixk


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    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:56 pm

    Russia ready to start production of dual-control version of Night Hunter attack helicopter. New version of Mi-28N equipped double piloting system for RuAF will get designation Mi-28UB.

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/defense/862722


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    Post  Book. on Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:46 pm

    The major difference between the new Mi-28UB and the Mi-28N Night Hunter helicopter is the dual hydromechanical flight control system. Thanks to this innovation, the helicopter can be operated both from the pilot’s cockpit and the flight instructor’s cockpit. The area of the flight instructor’s cockpit has been increased, with an expansion in the pilot canopy and change to the configuration of the energy-absorbing seats.

    The new Mi-28UB helicopter will improve significantly and render more effective training of pilots of Mi-28NE Night Hunter helicopters, which are supplied to the Russian air force, and may be offered for export. The Mi-28UB retains the full potential of an attack helicopter and offers the same level of service as the Mi-28NE Night Hunter attack helicopters.

    http://www.russianhelicopters.aero/en/press/news/Mi-28UB_OP1/

    How the Mi 28 N v UB?

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    Post  Book. on Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:34 pm

    Book. wrote:Россия поставит Алжиру 40 вертолетов Ми-28НЭ "Ночной охотник"
    Russia to supply Algeria 40 Mi-28NE "Night Hunter"

    http://www.interfax.ru/world/499018


    http://www.russiadefence.net/t2828p175-russia-algeria-military-contracts#156210

    Algeris try Mi 28 dual pilot

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    Post  George1 on Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:23 pm

    Mi-28N went to fight in Syria



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