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    miketheterrible

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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:37 am

    There was claims I read that it was used in Syria onboard testing. So who knows.
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    Post  coolieno99 on Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:15 am

    nice video on the manufacturing process of the Mi-28 attack helicopter


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    Post  Cyrus the great on Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:02 am

    How does the NO25 radar compare to the Longbow?

    I still regard the Kamov helicopters to be the best in the world, but the fact that the Havoc has a radar with a 360° radius capability for ground operations gives it a substantial advantage over the Ka-52.

    The Ka-52 can partially overcome this disadvantage with its coaxial rotors by spinning on its axis and will have drones at its disposal to gather vital intelligence. Russia has obviously resolved that both the Ka-52 and the Mi-28 will serve in the air force -- with the incredibly advanced Ka-52 assuming the role of a command helicopter due to its powerful radar and its plethora of sensors.

    The Ka-50 is the only helicopter with comparable or superior armour protection to the Mi-28. The Ka-52 is not as well armoured as the Mi-28 and its side by side configuration further compromises the protection level; one penetration can kill both the pilot and the gunner.

    I read that one of the reasons the Ka-50 did not have the steped conventional tandem seat configuration was due to considerations of weight. I suppose it's too late now, but new metallurgical advances could make a stepped two seater Ka-50 variant a reality; the new lighter, stronger and cheaper metals could reduce the weight of such a platform -- making it 13% lighter than the Ka-50... one with the nose mounted radar of the Ka-52.

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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:51 am

    The radar on the Mi-28NM has both cm wave and mm wave antennas which means it should vastly exceed all other helo mounted attack helo radars in terms of range.

    MM wave radar is not good for long range use as its energy is absorbed by moisture... it is often used in weather radar which can detect and track weather formations.

    In terms of attack performance a 360 degree radar is not that useful... like a fighter aircraft having a view to the side and behind makes little sense when your weapons don't face that way. As mentioned however a helo can easily turn to direct weapons in different directions and the fact that the new mast mounted radar can direct the Ataka and Krisantema missiles means it could turn and fire and then turn away while still guiding the missile... a rather useful feature.

    No doubt it will also be used for detecting incoming threats which can be used with the self defence suite to keep the aircraft safe.


    I read that one of the reasons the Ka-50 did not have the steped conventional tandem seat configuration was due to considerations of weight.

    Smile you joking? The Ka-50 does not have a stepped cockpit design because there is only the pilot and no gunner so there is no second crew position to "step".

    The Ka-52 has side by side seating to improve crew communication and to reduce weight... if you think about two separate armoured boxes, one for each crewman... if you put them one in front of the other then you can take away the front armour of the rear position. If you put them side by side then you can take the whole one side armour off both positions.

    The Mi-28 is very well armoured too... I have seen a 14.5mm HMG placed beside the cockpit and fired from less than 5 metres directly into the cockpit side glass and not penetrate.... that is outstanding protection... in comparison the Apaches side glass windows have been penetrated by AK bullets from the ground... ie at least a few hundred metres.


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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  George1 on Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:27 pm

    Russia’s new combat helicopter to undergo tests in Syria

    The manufacturer would like to test the Mi-28UB helicopters in Syria

    MOSCOW, August 4. /TASS/. Russia’s newest helicopter Mi-28UB (with dual controls) will be tested in Syria, the CEO of the Helicopters of Russia company, Andrei Boginsky, has said.

    "Currently the Mi-28N helicopter has a crew of two - the pilot and the operator. The task of the new project is to turn the helicopters into a combined combat and training aircraft, with the full set of controls in front of both seats. We would like these helicopters [Mi-28UB - TASS] to undergo tests here [in Syria]," Boginsky said in an interview on the Zvezda TV news channel recorded at the Hmeymim air base.

    Earlier, the Helicopters of Russia general designer, Nikolai Pavlenko, said eight new Mi-28UB helicopters would be provided for the Aerospace Force later this year.

    The chief of the Aerospace Force’s army aviation combat training, Nikolai Pavlenko, said that the first Mi-28UB helicopters would be delivered to the 344th center of combat training and retraining center in Torzhok.

    Mi-28UB is a combined combat and training configuration of the attack helicopter Mi-28N Night Hunter. It began to be developed in 2010. The double control function is one of its key features. Although the helicopter is meant for training pilots, it retains all combat capabilities and can attack enemy targets and vehicles.


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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  Airman on Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:24 pm

    First 'Mi-28UB' Ready For Delivery

    Russian state company Rostec announced today that Rostvertol company of the Russian Helicopters (RH) produced the first Mi-28UB helicopters for the Russian Ministry of Defence. Rostec stated that the production of the first batch has begun at the plant in Rostov in 2016.

    Designed for the Russian Aerospace Forces, Mi-28UB 'Night Hunter' features a dual control system that allows piloting the helicopter from both command cockpit and operator's cockpit. Mi-28UB also have advanced avionics and communication systems, increasing the helicopter's reliability, safety and performance specifications.

    The Mi-28UB will be used for fire support of land advanced units and antitank defence. alongside its primary objective the helicopters can be used for flight training.

    RH plans to deliver 8 Night Hunters with dual control before the end of this year.

    First 'Mi-28UB' Ready For Delivery

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    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:53 pm

    Russia’s Aerospace Force to get eight Mi-28UB helicopters by year-end

    Mi-28UB is a combat and training configuration of the attack helicopter Mi-28N Night Hunter

    PATRIOT THEME PARK, August 22. /TASS/. The Helicopters of Russia holding company (an affiliate of Rostec) by the end of the year will get eight new helicopters Mi-28UB Night Hunter with dual control, the company’s press-service said, adding that the first two helicopters have been manufactured and are being tested.

    "By now the Rostvertol company (an affiliate of the holding company Helicopters of Russia - TASS) has manufactured the first two serial Mi-28UB helicopters. At the moment they are undergoing acceptance tests at the factory. A total of eight combat and training Night Hunters with dual control are to be provided by the end of the year," the holding company said.

    Earlier, the chief of combat training of the Aerospace Force’s army aviation, Oleg Chesnokov, said the first Mi-28UBs will be delivered to the 334th combat training and retraining center in Torzhok. The center’s instruction personnel has already undergone a course of instruction to fly the upgraded helicopter.

    Helicopters of Russia CEO Andrey Boginsky said Mi-28UB is to be dispatched to Syria for testing.

    Mi-28UB is a combat and training configuration of the attack helicopter Mi-28N Night Hunter, which began to be developed in 2010. Dual control is one of its key features. Although it is meant primarily for training pilots, it has retained all attack capabilities and can be used to attack enemy facilities and vehicles.


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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:17 pm

    But the military is also considering the purchase of the more sophisticated variant, dubbed Mi-28NM. According to Boginsky, if the contract is approved soon, first deliveries could begin in 2018.
    The NM version made its first flight in October 2016. It is outfitted with a new radar and flight control system as well as improved avionics. The helicopter has a new movable 30-mm gun mount that enables the use of precision weapons, including guided missiles. It also has increased speed, thanks to new composite main rotor blades.
    http://aviationweek.com/defense/russian-combat-helicopters-increase-sophistication?NL=AW-05&Issue=AW-05_20170911_AW-05_658&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_1&utm_rid=CPEN1000001576407&utm_campaign=11647&utm_medium=email&elq2=6e67d086f0944e12ae2111f7ff3d3aeb
    In time, some of them may be deployed on ships as well, like the Apaches in the RN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_Apache#Naval_operations_and_Libya https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2014/july/31/140731-us-apaches-rfa-cardigan-bay
    https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-helicopter/army-apaches-all-at-sea-on-ark-royal/

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    Re: Mi-28N Havoc: News

    Post  T-47 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:59 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    But the military is also considering the purchase of the more sophisticated variant, dubbed Mi-28NM. According to Boginsky, if the contract is approved soon, first deliveries could begin in 2018.
    The NM version made its first flight in October 2016. It is outfitted with a new radar and flight control system as well as improved avionics. The helicopter has a new movable 30-mm gun mount that enables the use of precision weapons, including guided missiles. It also has increased speed, thanks to new composite main rotor blades.
    http://aviationweek.com/defense/russian-combat-helicopters-increase-sophistication?NL=AW-05&Issue=AW-05_20170911_AW-05_658&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_1&utm_rid=CPEN1000001576407&utm_campaign=11647&utm_medium=email&elq2=6e67d086f0944e12ae2111f7ff3d3aeb
    In time, some of them may be deployed on ships as well, like the Apaches in the RN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_Apache#Naval_operations_and_Libya  https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2014/july/31/140731-us-apaches-rfa-cardigan-bay
    https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-helicopter/army-apaches-all-at-sea-on-ark-royal/

    Buddy I am re-writing your article. Don't mind.

    But the military is also considering the purchase of the more sophisticated variant, dubbed Mi-28NM. According to Boginsky, if the contract is approved soon, first deliveries could begin in 2018.
    The NM version made its first flight in October 2016. It is outfitted with a new radar and flight control system as well as improved avionics. The helicopter has a new movable 30-mm gun mount that enables the use of precision weapons, including guided missiles. It also has increased speed, thanks to new composite main rotor blades.

    Arrow http://aviationweek.com/defense/russian-combat-helicopters-increase-sophistication?NL=AW-05&Issue=AW-05_20170911_AW-05_658&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_1&utm_rid=CPEN1000001576407&utm_campaign=11647&utm_medium=email&elq2=6e67d086f0944e12ae2111f7ff3d3aeb

    In time, some of them may be deployed on ships as well, like the Apaches in the RN.

    Arrow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_Apache#Naval_operations_and_Libya

    Arrow https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2014/july/31/140731-us-apaches-rfa-cardigan-bay

    Arrow https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-helicopter/army-apaches-all-at-sea-on-ark-royal/

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