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    Re: BTR-80/82 APCs and variants: News

    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:00 am

    The BTR-82 will likely sell well on the export market, while the BMD-4M is really only a speciality item.

    Of course having said that the VDV are elite and they shouldn't skimp on money for them.

    To be honest I would love to see the VDV get its own fleet of 80 odd An-70s so they don't need to go to the heavy transport part of the airforce.

    They would be ideal for the purpose and allow quite heavy vehicles to be landed on rough airstrips.

    Landing by parachute restricts the max weight of their vehicles, but capturing a small airfield or even flat open patch of ground to enable aircraft to land could allow them to use much heavier and more capable vehicles.

    Regarding the BTR-82 I wouldn't mind one myself, though I would prefer it with no armour so that it is not so heavy,and I am in to astronomy so replace the gun package with a really big telescope, and keep the sights. Instead of armour they could make it out of thick modern plastic that wont rust and is strong and waterproof... I don't need it to be bullet proof, but having it float would be useful.

    Drive it up central otago away from the street light pollution and just look at the stars from the middle of a lake somewhere... do a bit of night fishing...


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    Re: BTR-80/82 APCs and variants: News

    Post  medo on Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:39 pm

    I'm more interested in new Agat sight with thermal imager and laser range finder. If it could also follow gun to highest elevation as existing one could, than it could became standard sight for new families of armored vehicles. They have only to install missile guiding channel.

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:08 am

    Indeed, and imagine a pack of 4 ready to launch Kornet EM missiles on the side of the turret... or two on each side like the BMP-2 upgrade...


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    Re: BTR-80/82 APCs and variants: News

    Post  medo on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:26 pm

    How many BTR-82A(M) will they buy in 2013?

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    Post  TR1 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:59 pm



    Nice photo.

    However: http://izvestia.ru/news/544331

    According to Izvestya, AMZ being attacked by MOD for missing BTR-82 delivery contract.

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    Post  Vympel on Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:16 am

    http://gurkhan.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/82.html

    Bodgy google translation:

    Between the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex, another scandal broke. According to "News" from the military establishment, hard claim is Arzamas Engineering Plant (AMZ) for disrupting the supply of two hundred modernized BTR-82 in the framework of the state defense order (SDO). This is almost 60% of the state defense order for armored personnel carriers for the years 2011-2012.
    - Disruption of the state defense order was evident at the end of last year, and we immediately began to find out what was wrong. I can only say that the results of the preliminary proceedings at the plant suffered a number of responsible leaders, one of the deputies shot the director in charge of the BTR-82, as well as several heads of departments, - the "News" source in the Defense Ministry.
    Sources of "Izvestia" indicate that the cause of failure was signed last year between the plant and the contract of "Rosoboronexport" for supply of BTR-82 and BTR-80 foreign buyer. For whom these machines has not been disclosed. Order turned up suddenly, and AMZ was not ready to increase the volume of production.
    A representative of one of the departments of the Ministry of Defense in charge of ensuring the state defense order, said "News", which claims to AMZ estimated at tens of millions of rubles.
    - The exact amount of penalty is calculated, but for 200 cars will be impressive amount. Manufacturers need to feel responsible for the failure of supplies, - he says.
    BTR-82 equipped with a motorized infantry brigade of the Southern Military District, and marine units in the Caspian Sea and Black Sea. 200 armored personnel carriers - a complete set of one infantry brigade of the new image. As part of the SOUTH often busy counter-terrorism measures, the lack of an entire armored brigade painfully affected the whole county, stressed the source.
    The exact number of armored vehicles that AMZ has to supply troops, he called refused, citing the secrecy of information. The source said only that the contract signed in 2010, and the Army has about 250 cars. And according to experts, the total number of BTR-82 in the armed forces closer to 1.5 thousand, about a third of them - the new, the rest converted from an older model BTR-80.
    BTR-82 - is the latest modernization of the Soviet model of the BTR-80A. It is armed with a 30mm automatic cannon, is more powerful than its predecessor, the 320-hp engine KamAZ, a new radio station, autonomous satellite navigation channels, active laser-pulse illumination, which allows the commander to detect the enemy at distances up to 3 km. Thus its value in today's local conflicts has increased significantly.
    The machine should be completely replaced by 80-ku conversion or issue new ones. The next main "workhorse" Army should be a promising BTR "Boomerang", which promises to be shown at the end of this year.
    In the Military-Industrial Company, which manages the Arzamas Engineering Plant, "News" confirmed that the disruption of supplies was, but could not name the reason for secrecy.
    - This is the state defense order, and its parameters are secret. The Ministry of Defense, we reported about these reasons, - said the representative of the Military-Industrial Company.
    Another source in the defense hinted "News" that the supply disruptions caused by the congestion of AMZ orders for "Rosoboronexport", which sells armored cars to Kazakhstan and a number of other foreign armies. Officers of the Army Technical Services called 82-ku good machine, but the 80-ka, in their opinion, better.
    - BTR-82 well armed, optics and excellent engine. Is that suspension seat in the troop compartment unaccustomed soldiers, especially in body armor and weapons. But the 82 th stuffed with electronics, it must be properly maintained. It is suspected that even the officers are not always right, not what soldiers odnogodichniki - SOUTH doubt officer.
    He called the "oak" the old BTR-80, which is very clear, "hindered and very talented fighters." To realize the potential of the 82-th model requires professionals, so that the current personnel would be better to "oak", sums up the source "news."
    Independent expert on the history of Russian armored Khlopotov Alex believes that BTR-82 is a temporary measure, for all its modern units.
    - We still designed BTR-90, but it is a machine of another, more difficult and expensive class. 82nd is more suitable for a mass army of the Soviet type and good for a transitional period, as worked out, reliable, relatively inexpensive, well-armed and protected. In any case, the troops needed "Boomerang" - he said "News."
    Expert called bad sign non-compliance of contractual obligations and the defense industry did not see anything special in the boot AMZ export sales to the detriment of domestic. According to his observations, many buyers of armored vehicles in Asia and Africa put a non-disclosure to the time when the brand new tanks and armored vehicles arrive to the place of deployment.
    Head of the Press and Information Ministry of Defense, Colonel Igor Konashenkov at the time of publication was unable to provide comment.

    Interesting if true - 1,500 of them or so. And AMZ punished for prioritising export orders at the expense of the domestic program.

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    Re: BTR-80/82 APCs and variants: News

    Post  TR1 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:01 pm

    Those numbers are fantasies.

    Izvestya keeps lowering the bar.

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    The last vehicle in that row is not a Tigr. It is not a BTR-80 or 82 either

    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:56 am

    TR1 wrote:http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/454/phas816.jpg

    The last vehicle in that row is not a Tigr. It is not a BTR-80 or 82 either.....BOOMERANG or KARATELIA??????

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    Post  Zivo on Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:46 am

    It looks like the BTR-80 command vehicle. The front of it doesn't have the wheel well like the regular BTR-80's.

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    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:58 pm

    Don't think it is a BTR series vehicle. Shape of hull is different.

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    Post  flamming_python on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:50 pm

    It's just a case of the last Tigr having its front door wide open in front of the BTR-80 variant behind it, giving the illusion of some new monster vehicle.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:56 am

    I agree with Zivo here... it looks to me like the GAZ-59039 (BMM) variant of the BTR series with enlarged front superstructure.

    Developed from the BTR-80 it is used as a command vehicle, ambulance, or recon vehicle.


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    Post  TheArmenian on Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:11 pm

    I stand corrected. Thanks Zivo.

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    Post  xeno on Tue May 07, 2013 4:38 am

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    So, this is how BTR-82AM looks like. Of course, its is my guessing.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue May 07, 2013 12:36 pm

    So, this is how BTR-82AM looks like. Of course, its is my guessing.

    Makes it look like a bad movie prop doesn't it?

    It is supposed to increase rigidity/stability during firing, while also increasing the amount of metal in the weapon which should improve cooling of the barrel.

    I rather suspect that extra mass would further reduce rate of fire as the 2A72 is a long recoil version of the 2A42... the former reduces gases in the turret by recoiling further before the chamber is opened and the empty shell is replaced with a live round. Adding a heavy jacket should increase the area to cool the barrel and also reduce the rate of fire by reducing the recoil speed.


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    Post  TR1 on Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:41 am

    http://lenta.ru/news/2013/12/06/btr82a/

    The Samara separate motor-rifle brigade has received a batch of 31 BTR-82s. In the next two months, it will receive 129 more vehicles of this type, for total delivery of 160 BTR-82s in 2013.

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    Post  Asf on Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:35 pm

    BTR-82A1

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    Post  Viktor on Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:18 pm

    Large shipment of BTR-82A coming up  thumbsup 

    CVO peacekeepers received new armored vehicles

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    Post  Strizh on Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:11 pm

    I don't like the BTR they should better wait for the Boomerang.

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    Re: BTR-80/82 APCs and variants: News

    Post  VladimirSahin on Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:43 pm

    BTRs are used for delivering troops to their objectives then supporting them from behind they aren't like BMDs or BMPs which have better armor and cannons.  I wish the BTR-90 was accepted into service I always wanted to see one of those monsters in service but sadly it was not meant to be.  (Edited) I forgot the fact that the BTR-90 was not in service and just prototypes  jocolor 


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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:33 pm

    BTR-82 offers simple light mobile transport with decent fire power and reasonable protection for light troops.

    Boomerang will be much more expensive, but also with better arrangements for getting into and out of and of course rather better levels of protection and fire power.

    Lighter cheaper simpler is not always bad... certainly there will be no temptation to fight from the vehicle and risk getting killed in groups...


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    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:36 pm

    Photos of counter-sabotage combat vehicle BPDM Typhoon-M (index 15Ts56M). BPDM is based on BTR-82 APC and designed for counter-sabotage measures and protection of mobile strategic missile systems and other units of Strategic Missile Forces. The first vehicle was delivered in 2013 to Serpukhov branch of the Military Academy of Strategic Missile Forces. BPDM was developed by NPO Strela and VPK (Arzamas AMZ) companies.








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    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:00 pm

    Russia's Defense Ministry has adopted 300 new BTR-82

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    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:34 am

    Upgrade options of BTR-80 from the Central Research Institute "Burevestnik"





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