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    Post  dino00 on Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:28 am

    Is in service since 2011, but never saw or remenber hear about it

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:54 am

    dino00 wrote:Is in service since 2011, but never saw or remenber hear about it

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    I've heard about the Fauna ECM complex for years, however this is the first time I've seen it in action.
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    Post  Hole on Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:51 pm

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    Infauna.
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    Post  Hole on Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:52 pm

    This optics. Are they lasers? laser warning devices? jammers?
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    Post  flamming_python on Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:59 pm

    Saw it in a vid on Syria, when some Russian Spetsnaz got some journalists tagging along with a convoy out of a hotspot.
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    Post  0nillie0 on Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:28 am

    Hole wrote:This optics. Are they lasers? laser warning devices? jammers?

    If i understand correctly they are optical sensors to detect firing of weaponry and possibly incoming projectiles.
    I don't know what spectrum etc.

    But the vehicle can deploy aerosol smokescreens which has been demonstrated.
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    Post  Hole on Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:43 am

    Well, so it got optical sensors and laser detectors to detect attacks and jammers and flare launchers to defend vehicles from attacks. Nice. Like the self-defense systems they put close to SAM´s, just mobile.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:46 am

    Hole wrote:Well, so it got optical sensors and laser detectors to detect attacks and jammers and flare launchers to defend vehicles from attacks. Nice. Like the self-defense systems they put close to SAM´s, just mobile.

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    Gazetchik-E. I wonder if armored vehicles could have a modernized version (with APS) hitched behind them on a trailer?
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:32 pm

    Like the self-defense systems they put close to SAM´s, just mobile.

    Not really, that is Gazetchik-E, which basically protects major radars and SAM sites from anti radiation missile attack by emitting radar signals to distract the incoming anti radiation missile from the actual radar it is connected with.

    This system clearly uses both smoke and incendiary burning material to defeat optical and IR guided weapons by blocking visual light and creating multiple IR signals all around the target area so individual targets can't be differentiated from the background noise.

    Hope the enemy appreciates this because the alternative is a high power laser to blind EO sensors and telescopic sights...
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    Post  Hole on Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:01 pm

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    Gazetchik uses also chaff/flare launchers and Infauna uses jammers. Not much difference.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:44 am

    Upgraded armored personnel carrier BTR-82AT

    According to Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the newest version of the famous Russian armored personnel carrier BTR-82, the BTR-82AT armored personnel carrier, is being demonstrated for the first time at the International Military Technical Forum Army-2019.

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    Externally from the earlier machines, the AT modification is distinguished by the presence of a set of additional reflective screens of armor steel and special arrays.

    The first significantly increase resistance when hit by bullets of such large-caliber machine guns as M2, DShK and Utes, the latter neutralize the action of the rocket-propelled grenades of the RPG-7 and SPG-9 anti-tank grenade launchers, as well as their foreign counterparts.

    The combat vehicle received a new combined two-channel sight with vertical stabilization and a laser rangefinder. With it, the gunner can effectively fire from a 30mm 2A72 automatic cannon and a 7.62mm PKTM machine gun day and night.

    Now, in the dark, you can use a thermal imager, it is not afraid of external interference and helps to see even disguised targets. Also, this device allows you to detect the enemy in the rain, fog and clouds of dust.

    Motorized riflemen on board received a portable Kornet anti-tank missile system, which greatly enhanced their ability to combat enemy engineering structures and heavy, highly protected armored vehicles.

    Combat crew 9-10 people. Diesel engine power - 300 hp Maximum speed on the highway - 80 km / h. The weight of the updated car is now 17,250 kg.

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    Post  0nillie0 on Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:53 am

    Recently i have seen many pictures of BTR-82A / BTR-82AM with a different device mounted in place of the PL-1-01 laser beamer.
    The PL-1-01 is used for active illumination of the combined day/night sight of the BPPU combat module.

    Normal BTR-82A
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    BTR-82A with different device
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    Does anyone have information about this device? We see in the latest version BTR-82AT, which supposedly features a thermal imaging channel, neither of the above is installed.
    This could mean the thermal camera is integrated in the default sight, and not mounted externally as we see for example with upgraded BMP-2MD of the Finnish Army.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:18 pm

    BTR-82AT with a thermal imaging sight will be presented for the first time at the Army 2020 forum.

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    Post  AJ-47 on Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:47 am

    Hole wrote:He refers to a new artillery round that uses a ramjet to increase range. Technically its some sort of rocket.
    Few words about the Ramjet Shell

    NORWEGIAN Nammo rolls out its extreme range artillery Ramjet Assisted 155 Shell
    Check out this mockup of a ramjet-assisted 155mm shell from Nammo, as seen at Eurosatory 2018. (Jeff Martin/Staff)

    PARIS — Norwegian ammunition company Nammo has rolled out what it’s calling an “extreme range” artillery concept using ramjet propulsion that it hopes will meet the emerging long-range precision fires requirements for a variety of countries, including the United States.

    Nammo has combined its experience in both ammunition and rocket-propulsion technology, and it’s merging those capabilities to create an artillery shell capable of reaching more than 100 kilometers in range without changing the gun on a standard 155mm howitzer, according to Thomas Danbolt, company vice president of large caliber ammunition, who spoke at Eurosatory, one of the largest land warfare conferences in Europe.
    Link for the whole article below:

    https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/eurosatory/2018/06/14/nammo-rolls-out-its-extreme-range-artillery/
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    Post  AJ-47 on Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:59 am

    [quote="George1"]Upgraded armored personnel carrier BTR-82AT

    According to Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the newest version of the famous Russian armored personnel carrier BTR-82, the BTR-82AT armored personnel carrier, is being demonstrated for the first time at the International Military Technical Forum Army-2019.

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    BTW do you know what's going on with the BTR-87? I read in 2016 that's going to replace the BTR-82.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:59 am

    Few words about the Ramjet Shell

    A scramjet shell would be even better able to operate at much higher speeds.

    A turbojet engine wont operate normally at flight speeds much faster than Mach 3 because the air coming into the turbojet needs to be slowed down to subsonic speeds before fuel can be burned....

    The SR-71 uses air bypassing around the turbojet as a ramjet so while it has a turbojet engine when it is flying very fast (up to mach 3.5) there is very little to no air passing through its turbojet engine... it is bypassing the turbojet engine like a ramjet with fuel added at the rear like an afterburner.... the air is still slowed down to subsonic speeds for the fuel to burn which limits its thrust capacity so even though it is a very sleek design it wont go much faster than mach 3.5.

    A scramjet motor can burn fuel at supersonic speeds so no need to slow down the air passing through it... you can put an enormous volume of air through a scramjet which means much much higher speeds are possible... obviously when the problem of propulsion is the speed of the gas coming out the back of the engine the last thing you want to have to do is slow it down when it comes in, but with conventional jets you had to to burn the fuel to make them run.

    With a scramjet you don't need to slow down anything so you get a lot more thrust at high speed... if you imagine the pure turbojet of the MiG-31 the air intakes actually close down to reduce the amount of air coming in the air intake at top speed so that when it gets to the hot section of the engine it is moving at subsonic speed even though the air moving past the aircraft is moving at mach 2.8... fuel is added and is blasted out the back to generate thrust to keep the aircraft flying... with a scramjet motor the air going in to the engine can be coming in at mach 2.8 and the fuel added and burned means it could be coming out much much faster which means a lot more energetic thrust to accelerate to much higher speeds... remember with a normal engine the air coming in needs to be slowed down to subsonic... with a scramjet the faster it is going the faster it comes in the faster it goes out so for a scramjet moving faster gives more thrust, while with a turbojet moving faster means you need to slow the incoming air more or the engine will choke on supersonic air and stall...

    With a turbojet engine there are fan blades moving the air through the engine... as you approach top speed there is a risk of those blades breaking and shattering the entire engine like a fragmentation bomb.

    It is like ground speed records... for very high speed cars and motorbikes you can't use rubber because at very high road speeds the tires shred themselves and disintegrate...

    A scramjet motor for artillery shells would be interesting... you might launch the shell at 900m/s or faster but a scramjet motor has no theoretical top speed... obviously in practise there are lots of factors but you could probably easily design a scramjet shell able to accelerate to perhaps 2 or 3 km/s and perhaps maintain that speed for a minute or two... remember the higher it climbs the thinner the air becomes and the more efficient a jet engine becomes...

    Range on its own of course it pointless... it would need accuracy too... talk of 170km range 152mm Coalition shells suggests propulsion and guidance and perhaps a reduced payload of maybe 5-10kgs... with enough accuracy that should be enough to take out a vehicle or MG or sniper position... together with rather high terminal speed it could be quite devastating.

    Of course at shorter ranges a 40kg shell might be more effective against heavier targets like bunkers or heavily structured buildings...

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