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    BTR-80/82 APCs and variants: News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:55 am

    Production of new APCs in Arzamas start in 2010



    Arzamas Machine Building Plant, which is managed by LLC "Military-Industrial Company", will begin serial production of armored personnel carriers BTR-82 and BTR-82A in 2010. This Interfax reported citing a statement issued press secretary Sergei Suvorov military-industrial complex.

    Testing of new armored vehicles, which represent a modification of BTR-80, completed in February 2010. Then, according to Suvorov, "must be decided on the adoption of their arsenals." After that AMZ will begin mass production of new machines.

    Sergei Suvorov, said that the new armored vehicles differ significantly from the BTR-80, so the Ministry of Defense has assigned them new indexes. BTR-82A is equipped with 30-millimeter cannon, and BTR-82 - 14.5-millimeter machine gun. Tower equip armored vehicle stabilization and new weapons sights.

    Serial production of BTR-80 began in 1984. Later it was created three versions of the armored personnel carrier. The car can reach speeds of up to 80 kilometers per hour and covered a distance of 600 kilometers. BTR-80 are in service with more than two dozen countries.

    http://www.lenta.ru/news/2009/11/04/btr/

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    Re: BTR-80/82 APCs and variants: News

    Post  Sukhoi37_Terminator on Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:16 am

    What about the BTR 90?
    will the production of BTR 82 influence the BTR 90`s production?

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:35 am

    Sukhoi37_Terminator wrote:What about the BTR 90?
    will the production of BTR 82 influence the BTR 90`s production?

    We are still procuring BTR-90 and getting major upgrades in 2011. The total procurement by 2015 is only 600 so I doubt if it will cut into it.

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    Post  sepheronx on Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:42 pm

    600? is that total by 2015 for both btr-80 an 90? Or is that just 90?

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:19 pm

    sepheronx wrote:600? is that total by 2015 for both btr-80 an 90? Or is that just 90?

    Just BTR-90...

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    Post  Viktor on Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:17 am

    Whats the price of BTR-82?

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:02 pm

    Viktor wrote:Whats the price of BTR-82?

    Probably $500k...

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:07 pm

    You need to look at the BTR-90 as a separate vehicle from the BTR-80/82 series.

    The whole purpose behind the BTR-60/-70/-80 series was low cost.

    The original BTR-60 used the cheapest available engine at the time, which was taken from a commonly used truck.

    The engine wasn't powerful enough on its own so they had to use two.
    It added great complication and caused lots of overheating problems having two engines in one vehicle but it kept purchasing costs down and spares were easy to come by.

    The focus was to get every Soviet soldier in armour, so while the west poured scorn on the funny wheeled BTR because of its thin armour and unreliable engine setup western forces were being transported in trucks with no armour at all.

    The BMPs were far too expensive to use for every soldier and for some units being able to travel quickly on roads over long distances was more important than being able to travel across rough country.

    Thus they had motor rifle units with BMPs and motor rifle units with BTRs.

    The old BTRs are about to be replaced with BTR-82s and BTR-82As.

    The BTR-90s will be used most likely for roles previously performed by BMPs like recon, but in situations where the firepower of a BMP-2 is needed but its tracks and noise are not. BTR-90s are much faster than BMP-2s and probably have comparable side and rear armour.

    The cheap BTRs allowed the Soviets to fully mechanise their forces.

    The new BTR-82s will allow them to continue that tradition though even the cheap BTRs will have things the crews of the BTR-60s could only dream of.

    As the new T-90s will likely have some connection to the armies network I would guess the new APCs and MICVs will have something similar.

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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:50 pm

    NIA "Nizhny Novgorod" - Arseny Nightingale) Arzamas Machine Building Plant (AMZ, Arzamas, Nizhniy Novgorod region) began to develop a new armored "sleeve" on the basis of the BTR-90. This is the press spokesman of the plant.

    A company representative said that the new APC engine is not installed behind and in front, allowing the crew parachuted behind the machine, rather than on the sides, as it was before. BTR in its characteristics exceed the BTR-80 and BTR-82.

    APCs equipped with cannon, machine gun, ATGM (two shots with an interval of two seconds), allowing twice to increase its armor-piercing. APC will be more maneuverable. Diameter of turning against the existing samples (13 meters), according to spokesperson AMZ, "will be much less."

    BACKGROUND:

    BTR-90 - Combat wheeled amphibious vehicle type 8x8, which has a cannon and machine-gun and grenade launchers with antitank missile systems and reinforced armored is equipped with life support systems. Armored personnel carrier designed to transport infantry units (units of the Marine Corps of the Navy) and fire support them on the battlefield and fighting out of the car. On the BTR-90 incorporates a new original scheme of transmission. The flow of power from the engine to the hydraulic gear is distributed through the differential mechanism into two parallel flow along the sides of the machine.

    JSC Arzamas Machine Building Plant "- a company located in the perimeter of the management company" Military-Industrial Company (Moscow), which in turn is a subsidiary enterprise OJSC Russian Machines. " The only enterprise in Russia for the production of wheeled armored vehicles. AMZ by producing BTR-70 BTR-80 BTR-80A and BTR-90, STS "Tiger" and "Vodnik.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:23 pm

    I have read that the BTR-90 was rejected because of its side doors and that it is going to be redesigned with the engine up front and a ramp rear door is going to be fitted so its production will be delayed till the redesign has been completed.
    Can anyone else confirm this?
    Regarding the BTR-82/a I came across this article:

    <BLOCKQUOTE>
    DATELINE: MOSCOW July 16
    The Military Industrial Company plans to manufacture a trial batch of new BTR-82 (BTR-82A) armored personnel carriers before the end of 2010.
    “In August we expect to start the procedure of commissioning the APCs and in the fourth quarter of this year the Arzamas-based machine- building plant should manufacture a trial batch of new APCs for troop trials,” the company’s spokesman Sergei Suvorov told Interfax-AVN.
    Production and delivery of the new APC to the troops could start next year, he said. “We hope that the government will make an order for BTR-82s and BTR-82€s from 2011,” Suvorov said.
    The BTR-82 (BTR-82A) should replace the BTR-80 (BTR-80A), he said.
    “There is no sense in producing four types of APCs for the Russian Army, because with the production of the BTR-82 (BTR-82€), there will be no more orders for the supply of BTR-80s and BTR-80As,” Suvorov said.
    The production of BTR-80s (BTR-80As) might continue under contracts with foreign customers, he said.
    The BTR-82 (BTR-82A) is the product of a deep upgrade of the BTR-80 (BTR-80€). The firepower of the BTR-82 (BTR-82A) APC is enhanced thanks to the installed unified armament module with electric actuators and a digital two-plane gun stabilization system coupled with a new round- the-clock optical sighting system. A 30-millimeter 2A72 gun or a 14.5- millimeter KPVT machine gun and a coaxial 7.62-millimeter PKTM machine gun can be used as the main weapon in the armament module.
    Other types of artillery weapons, including foreign made, can be mounted on the unified module.
    The carrier’s protection is enhanced thanks to the use of new shatterproof protection made from modern synthetic materials on the internal surfaces of the hull, including on the floor, the new energy- absorbing bottom with two-levels of protection, and special suspension seats for the crew and landing force.
    A set of measures to raise the APC’s amour allowed the carrier’s endurance to be raised by 20%, to ensure protection of the crew, the APC’s units and systems protect it against armor-piercing bullets from suppressive weapons from close combat infantry units at a distance of 100-meter,s and against a second attack in case the APC’s main armor was pierced.
    A more powerful diesel engine, new transmission elements and a new suspension are mounted on the new APC, which allows for increases in the vehicle’s mobility.
    The new APCs retain all the water propulsion properties of their predecessors, which makes them easily capable of overcoming water barriers.
    The 24 hour optics are interesting... thermals or image intensification? Perhaps cheaper QWIP thermal camera with no cooling system?
    So powered stabilised armament with other weapons optional.
    An important feature not mentioned is that the 14.5mm version has a continuous belt of 500 rounds instead of 10 x 50 round belts that had to be loaded manually... I am sure the gunner will appreciate that.
    I have heard mention that the A model with the 30mm gun can use new ammunition with a time fuse for airburst rounds like the ANIET system for the 125mm tank ammo.
    Would assume that if a 30mm grenade launcher is added it could use the new improved grenades with more HE power and better aerodynamic shape that reach out to 2,100m.
    I wonder if there is any chance of the Balkan 40mm grenade launcher being introduced any time soon?</BLOCKQUOTE>

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:08 pm

    BTR-82 is a BTR-80A on steriods. It still doesn't deal with the fundamental problems of the original design. This trial batch will be exactly that, just a trial. Same goes for BTR-90... we need a brand new design.

    The sighting system is CCTV, it doesn't even have a thermal mode.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:22 am

    It ticks most of the boxes though.
    It is good enough right now but will need replacing when there is money and a design that can replace it.
    Probably with the interem nature of the design it probably doesn't make sense to put thermal sights in a vehicle that costs less than the sights mounted in it.
    The work on redesigning the layout of the BTR-90 can no doubt also be applied to the BTR-82 when it is finalised too.
    Of course there is also a fundamental shift in its purpose as well, as I mentioned above there were lots of reasons to design it the way they did and those reasons made sense when you had to be able to move a 3 million strong army.
    Now with all units in a full state of readiness you wont really have hi and low units where the high unit has all the latest stuff and low units had older stuff and more BTRs than BMPs and also the high unit is in East Germany while the low unit is in central siberia.
    With a reduction in force size all units will need to be mobile to be able to shift to a front when needed as quickly as possible.
    I would guess also that with the new military districts structure that some districts will have more wheeled units because of their mobility and the quality of the roads, while other districts will need to rely more on tracks because of a lack of roads.
    Having a lot fewer than 65,000 APCs will also mean upgrades can be better.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:49 am

    Began production of the initial batch of new armored vehicles

    Moscow. October 28. Interfax-AVN - Production of the initial batch of BTR-82 and BTR-82a will be completed at the Arzamas Machine Building Plant "to the end of the year, told Interfax-AVN spokesman LLC Military-Industrial Company (MIC), Sergei Suvorov.

    "It began production of the initial batch of upgraded BTR-82 and BTR-82a," - he said.

    According to him, we are talking about dozens of armored personnel carriers, which will take place after the manufacture combat tests.

    "There is no issue for the Army are four types of APCs, so with the release of the BTR-82 and BTR-82a for the Russian army an order to supply, and BTR-80 BTR-80A will be terminated", - said Sergey Suvorov.

    According to him, the old model, APC will continue to be produced for foreign customers.

    BTR-80A is equipped with 30-mm gun, and BTR-82 - 14,5 mm machine gun. Tower of both APCs will be unified. "

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    Post  medo on Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:36 pm

    Any news about BTR-90?

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    Post  medo on Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:31 pm

    Will Russian MVD and interior army also buy BTR-82/BTR-82A or will they go on other vehicles like Tigr, Vystrel, SPM-3?

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:12 am

    AFAIK from reading various articles including those above the original BTR-80 and BTR-80A will only be produced for export for customers who still operate them and still want them.

    My guess is that all the new light units in the Russian Army will operate with BTR-82/A type vehicles and that interior ministry forces and other organisations that currently operate BTR-80s will also make the switch, though some might make the switch to BTR-90 depending on whether that cost and/or extra performance is warranted.

    I think for some roles that lighter vehicles will always be needed to replace the BRDM-2 and unarmoured vehicles used like 4 wheel drive vehicles like the landrover and jeep equivlents.

    Such better protected vehicles will improve safety.

    (Would add Vodnik to your little list too)

    Will Russian MVD and interior army also buy BTR-82/BTR-82A or will they go on other vehicles like Tigr, Vystrel, SPM-3?

    SPM-1 Tigr might not make it to widespread service because its engine is American. The Tigr-M has a new Russian engine, but the Tigr, SPM-3, Tigr-M, Vodnik and Vystrel, or for that matter the T-98, but they will need a wide range of vehicles for different roles.
    I suspect that the licence production of the Iveco vehicle will influence things, but I also think the Russian Army has plans for vehicles for its light brigades too.

    It has been a while since they bought new vehicles so a lot of likely different types will be bought for different purposes over the next few years.

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    Post  Austin on Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:34 pm

    The BTR-90 really looks like a bad ass , just the perfect BTR till date. I just hope they standardise on BTR-90

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:03 am

    Austin wrote:The BTR-90 really looks like a bad ass , just the perfect BTR till date. I just hope they standardise on BTR-90

    It suffers the same design problems as the BTR-80 series. Until we get a BTR that doesn't lead to soldiers sitting on the roof, we do not have an acceptable model.

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    Post  Austin on Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:40 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    Austin wrote:The BTR-90 really looks like a bad ass , just the perfect BTR till date. I just hope they standardise on BTR-90

    It suffers the same design problems as the BTR-80 series. Until we get a BTR that doesn't lead to soldiers sitting on the roof, we do not have an acceptable model.

    Vlad , Can you please explain in detail the issues with BTR-80 and how it has been carry forwarded with BTR-90 and why the latter is still a bad deal ?

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:47 pm

    Actually it is quite common for soldiers to sit on the roof of an armoured vehicle when the dominant threat is mines and enemy small arms fire is unlikely.

    I have seen lots of photos of US soldiers sitting on M113s in Vietnam because the mine threat and the RPG threat meant sitting on top was safer than inside... also the heat made the inside pretty unbearable too from what I have read.

    There was talk of redesigning the BTR-90 with a front mounted engine and a large rear ramp door so getting in and out will be easier.

    With increases in mobility Russian troops will need to carry a lot more equipment on their backs than they did before so a large ramp door will make getting in and out easier and quicker.

    Side doors can be useful too of course.

    This might effect amphibious capability too unless new more buoyant armour can be developed or they make it larger by adding flotation cells... the PT-76 was very resistant to LAWs apparently because of the floatation cells that helped it float... perhaps they can turn that sort of thing to their advantage?

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    Post  medo on Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:40 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    Sukhoi37_Terminator wrote:What about the BTR 90?
    will the production of BTR 82 influence the BTR 90`s production?

    We are still procuring BTR-90 and getting major upgrades in 2011. The total procurement by 2015 is only 600 so I doubt if it will cut into it.

    Which turret serial BTR-90 have? The old one from BMP-2 or newer Berezhok?

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:58 am

    If they are going to make them they might as well put the best turret available on them.
    They might even go for the BTR-90M with the BMP-3M turret.

    I guess it really depends on the role for the vehicles.

    If they are more for patrol then the heavier firepower of the BMP-3M with 100mm rifled gun and 30mm cannon might come in useful, whereas if they are for troop transport a smaller turret might be better to improve available internal volume... say the BTR-82 style turret with a 14.5mm HMG and PKT.

    I am looking forward to finding out. Smile

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:15 am

    Have read on another forum that the BTR-90 will not be produced for the Russian Army and that the BTR-82/A vehicles are stopgaps till a new vehicle is developed.

    The BTR-82 solves most of the obvious problems while keeping the price to a minimum... it might not have thermal sights but it will be connected to the C4IR"net".

    Apparantly the new vehicle is called Gilza which should deal with the biggest problems like much better mine and IED resistence, heavier armour, a front mounted more powerful engine in the 600hp range (presumably because of the extra armour) and rear doors as well as side doors though the weight increase will probably eliminate the Amphibious capability which is obviously significant.

    The implications being that perhaps the BMP-x might also sacrifice its amphibious capability for better armour too... the BMP-3s design was seriously compromised because of the need for amphibious capability... to have decent frontal armour and the turret up front the engine had to go to the rear of the vehicle which had a serious effect on rear entry and exit for the soldiers on board.

    Scrubbing the amphibious capability would allow the design to become much more nose heavy, though a rethink might lead to a reduction in armament as well, but heavy front armour with a front mounted engine will make amphibious capability impossible because it will simply be too nose heavy to balance in the water.

    Perhaps external guns and external ammo bins could improve internal volume for troops and firepower for the troop carriers, or perhaps a "firepower" vehicle like the BMP-T does have a place but it will likely be heavy direct fire capability as an external 30mm high elevation gun could be fitted to most armoured vehicles, a seperate firepower vehicle that has the turret of the BMP-3M with an external gun arrangement and external autoloader in a bustle arrangement that seperates the HE shells from the crew might be a good solution.


    I wonder if this new vehicle is the same vehicle planned called Typhoon for light brigades, or if Typhoon will supplement or eventually replace the Gilza.

    I guess the question of amphibious capability comes down to how the light, medium, and heavy units will be expected to operate/used.

    I would think the light and perhaps medium could be air deployed or deployed by sea which would make some amphibious capability useful. I rather doubt the Heavy Brigade will require amphibious capability so if it is not equipped with BTR-T type vehicles then any BMPs will likely get extra armour packages to improve protection to near tank levels which will make swimming difficult. The problems of the Bradley getting heavier come to mind and these problems will need to be dealt with.

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:29 am

    While continuing to develop a new family of platforms such as light (Typhoon), medium ("Boomerang" and "Kurganets-25") and heavy ("Armata").

    Of course it could be that this Gilza could actually be a Boomerang or Kurganets-25 type vehicle for the medium brigades with BMP levels of armour... it might even have 10 wheels?

    Of course some truck trailers use double wheels to spread the load so perhaps an 8 x 8 layout but with the front 4 wheels being double wheels, or perhaps the middle 4... or all 8 wheels being double wheels?

    I don't know much about trucks... certainly a mine that takes out one wheel will also destroy a wheel right next to it and two wheels like that would be harder to change, but it might allow lower tire pressure to be used which is good for cross country performance... you don't want to end up with a very well armoured vehicle that can't leave a sealed road because it will sink like a rock.

    I remember reading a US army eval of a BTR-60 and the guy claimed it was the ultimate RV and he had it bouncing across all sorts of rough country and sand and mud and snow. If he got stuck there was a winch that could be tied to a nearby tree, or you could use a ground anchor if there was no tree handy.

    His eval made me want to go out and buy one actually... Embarassed

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    Post  medo on Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:38 pm

    Have read on another forum that the BTR-90 will not be produced for the Russian Army and that the BTR-82/A vehicles are stopgaps till a new vehicle is developed.

    The BTR-82 solves most of the obvious problems while keeping the price to a minimum... it might not have thermal sights but it will be connected to the C4IR"net".

    Apparantly the new vehicle is called Gilza which should deal with the biggest problems like much better mine and IED resistence, heavier armour, a front mounted more powerful engine in the 600hp range (presumably because of the extra armour) and rear doors as well as side doors though the weight increase will probably eliminate the Amphibious capability which is obviously significant.
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    Intertesting news. I hope Russian army will go for BTR-82A armed with 30 mm gun,than BTR-82 armed with 14,5 mm machine gun. Both BTR-82/A have stabilized FCS with II night channel (I hope 3rd gen II tube), so maybe luck of thermal sight is not that big deal, when it is in function of APC and not of IFV. Gilza will be the one to do the job as wheeled IFV.

    I more think they will use BTR-82/A and Gilza together, because BTR-82/A is still amphibious and Russian army need them for operations around their large rivers for river crossing to secure bridge building. The same could go for their IFVs, where they will use with tanks heavier IFVs, but BMP-3M will be used for operations, where amphibious capabilities are a must have.

    Anyway, placing C4ISR "net" inside tanks, BMPs, BMDs and BTRs will make those vehicles far more capable to engage targets around them, but the quality of their C4ISR "net" will depend on their recce capabilities.

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