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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Zivo on Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:31 pm

    calm wrote:Laughing

    Ankara could let Russia use its Incirlik airbase to fight ISIS – Turkish FM

    https://www.rt.com/news/349413-turkey-russia-incirlik-airbase/#.V3omE5PxLjw.twitter

    I'll believe it when I see it.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:56 pm

    Erdogan must be desperate. Probably he senses that his regime is in the brink of collapse. Hard power has this effect, people come at you begging. Before the Syrian campaign this was inconceivable, even Lithuania was making fun of Russia.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Zivo on Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:04 pm

    Just saw on RT, he misspoke.

    Earlier on Monday, news agencies cited Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu as telling national TV channel TRT that Ankara would cooperate with “everybody who is fighting Islamic State [IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL].”

    “Ankara has opened the Incirlik airbase to all those wishing to join the active fight. Why not cooperate with Russia in the same manner?” Cavusoglu said.

    Several hours later Cavusoglu denied mentioning Russia’s possible presence at Incirlik.

    “I did not make such a comment. We said that we could cooperate with everyone in the fight against ISIS," Reuters quoted Cavusoglu as saying in comments broadcast live on television.

    “We said that we could cooperate with Russia in the period ahead in the fight against Daesh [Islamic State]. I did not make any comment referring to Russian planes coming to the Incirlik airbase,” Cavusoglu said, as cited by Reuters.

    https://www.rt.com/news/349430-cavusoglu-incirlik-nonexistent-proposal/

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Resistance on Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:51 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Resistance wrote: Putin will learn the hard way, what a fake apology is.

    so what is exactly your rank in sofa troops? I am nice guy so i will not ask about size or organization you have managed, budget or number of years. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    If I were Russia president Russia would have never lost Ukraine, cost the lives of tens of thousands in Donbas, made enemies with the rest of the world by absorbing Crimea. Huge mistakes Putin made. #NeverPutin

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:25 pm

    calm wrote:Russian cruise missile obliterates rebel TOW storage base in western Aleppo
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-cruise-missile-obliterates-rebel-tow-storage-base-western-aleppo/ | Al-Masdar News
    ....................

    It's been 24 hours, is there any real confirmation of this or was it just another product of Al-Masdar daily creative writing contest?

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:49 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    calm wrote:Russian cruise missile obliterates rebel TOW storage base in western Aleppo
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-cruise-missile-obliterates-rebel-tow-storage-base-western-aleppo/ | Al-Masdar News
    ....................

    It's been 24 hours, is there any real confirmation of this or was it just another product of Al-Masdar daily creative writing contest?

    No idea about cruise missiles, but there's chatter of four locations hit and burnt since yesterday in Aleppo by RuAF/

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  calm on Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:28 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    calm wrote:Russian cruise missile obliterates rebel TOW storage base in western Aleppo
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-cruise-missile-obliterates-rebel-tow-storage-base-western-aleppo/ | Al-Masdar News
    ....................

    Al-Masdar daily creative writing contest?

    No, Al-Masdar fairy tales...

    And this...

    Suspect
    Smart #Bomb vs. Dumb #Terrorist
    #Russia|n #Kaliber Strike @ Team #CIA's TOW Storage in #Aleppo (#Video)


    https://twitter.com/realSamHandwich/status/750027503339769856

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  max steel on Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:21 pm

    Again, Russian warship in close call with U.S. Navy

    For the second time in two weeks, a Russian warship in the eastern Mediterranean has approached U.S. Navy ships in what American military officials said was an unsafe manner, raising concerns about Russian intentions.

    The latest incident took place Thursday when the Russian frigate Neustrashimyy came within 150 yards of the USS San Jacinto, according to U.S. military officials.

    "San Jacinto was never threatened by the erratic maneuvers, as San Jacinto maintained course and speed, but the closing distance by (the Neustrashimyy) before the ship turned away from San Jacinto is considered a high risk maneuver, highly unprofessional, and contrary to international maritime regulations," the Navy said in a statement.

    "Conducting aggressive, erratic maneuvers and moving unnecessarily close to another ship in open ocean is inconsistent with prudent seamanship," the statement added. "We are concerned every time an unprofessional ship maneuvers occurs. These actions can unnecessarily escalate tensions between countries, and could result in dangerous miscalculations or accidents."

    The Russian frigate had been engaged in "shadowing" operations of the nearby carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower at the time. The Russian ship "conducted multiple erratic" maneuvers while the Eisenhower was conducting flight operations, the officials said.


    The Navy had anticipated the Russian moves because it was the same frigate that had approached the USS Gravely two weeks ago, officials said.
    At one point, the U.S. Navy sailors were able to photograph the Russian ship's weapons "uncovered" but unmanned, officials said.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  calm on Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:20 pm

    calm wrote:


    Later conquered positions

    18+

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  arpakola on Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:04 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/syrianmilitary/videos/1081336741947707/
    First footage out from al-Castello road after being secured by the Tiger Forces of the Syrian Arab Armed Forces as mentioned earlier in this post:

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Resistance on Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:02 pm

    Why don't Russia supply some new artillery like Msta-B and Sani to SAA? SAA only has 1960s artillery at this point. That is not acceptable considering the US gives top notch equipment to Ukraine.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  chinggis on Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:00 am

    Resistance wrote:Why don't Russia supply some new artillery like Msta-B and Sani to SAA? SAA only has 1960s artillery at this point. That is not acceptable considering the US gives top notch equipment to Ukraine.

    Dear Resistance,
    Can you write more sentence than one??? It is hard to understand what you want to say in one sentence and if you do not have to say something, please do not make any comment at all! You will be much more smarter than you are. In my country there is one rule:" silence is gold!" so please keep with this rule.
    In Ukraine, USA is not given to Ukraine any new equipment or top notch at all. They receive standard equipment what will not change course of war at all. What will change course of war will be training of troops, how they will be using equipment, how they will be using communication and after all how long they can hide plans from opposite side or mask it with deception. This will win the war. And yes, they doing in that direction. But opposite side is doing same thing too. In other words they are equal.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Resistance on Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:44 pm

    IS claims to have shot down a helicopter east of Palmyra

    https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/4rw7tr/is_claim_via_amaq_to_have_shot_down_a_russian/

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:47 pm

    chinggis wrote:
    Resistance wrote:Why don't Russia supply some new artillery like Msta-B and Sani to SAA? SAA only has 1960s artillery at this point. That is not acceptable considering the US gives top notch equipment to Ukraine.

    Dear Resistance,
    Can you write more sentence than one??? It is hard to understand what you want to say in one sentence and if you do not have to say something, please do not make any comment at all! You will be much more smarter than you are. In my country there is one rule:" silence is gold!" so please keep with this rule.
    In Ukraine, USA is not given to Ukraine any new equipment or top notch at all. They receive standard equipment what will not change course of war at all. What will change course of war will be training of troops, how they will be using equipment, how they will be using communication and after all how long they can hide plans from opposite side or mask it with deception. This will win the war. And yes, they doing in that direction. But opposite side is doing same thing too. In other words they are equal.

    You are talking to a troll which exists here since quite some time with few accounts.

    This is ultron the cunt.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  ult on Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:57 pm

    Resistance wrote:IS claims to have shot down a helicopter east of Palmyra

    https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/4rw7tr/is_claim_via_amaq_to_have_shot_down_a_russian/

    Denied by Russian Ministry of Defense. All aircraft and helicopters are safe and accounted for at their bases.

    http://ria.ru/syria_mission/20160708/1461880420.html

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Vann7 on Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:20 pm

    calm wrote:
    calm wrote:

    Later conquered positions

    18+


    that last video , shows , the rebels terrorist , are not really prepared to fight in a real
    high tech war. If Russia used Chemical weapons or Biological weapons , you throw them in their zones and terrorist wiped. without firing a shot. it will cover an entire valley. But Russia is forced to play by American/European-UN rules. Of clean fights and on top of that with cease of fires.. Laughing  And nearly all border nations of Syria ,specially Turkey ,Jordan and Israel,becoming the major supply line of the terrorist and Americans providing logistics and air intelligence but also weapons to be more effective against Russia. So what we see in Syria is more like a political + proxy military war.  a war where military advantage cannot be used , and you need to follow a game.  I still remember how Amnesty International and Human rights watch.. all funded by American soros neocon.. demanded Syria army to not encircle Rebels cities because they have the right to food. Rolling Eyes

    So Obama /NATO backed terrorist fight without rules ,they even use chemical weapons ,
    But Russia and Syria needs to allow humanitarian aid and food be send to terrorist and cease of fires and defeat the terrorist but with US and EU not saying anything about ISIS supply lines and oil business.


    Denied by Russian Ministry of Defense. All aircraft and helicopters are safe and accounted for at their bases.

    Indeed Russia electronic warfare have been a real big game changer for Russia. and T-90s
    performance have been relative good too. it was really scary to watch those Mi-24 flying so close at building altitude in terrorist zones waving bullets. you need balls of steel to do that.. lol


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  calm on Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:01 am

    Russian Ka-52 greeting syrians on the coast of Latakia

    Very Happy


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Zivo on Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:03 am



    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=204_1467975139

    North Aleppo

    I would have just rage-quit. The teams are unbalanced, and they stole all the gunships. Very Happy

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:49 am

    Zivo wrote:<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=93d5ac248be1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=204_1467975139

    North Aleppo

    I would have just rage-quit. The teams are unbalanced, and they stole all the gunships. Very Happy


    Apparently is an old video , re-post from [Oct-12-2015]

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=044_1444663849


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  calm on Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:24 pm

    Daesh Terrorists Shoot Down Helicopter Near Palmyra: Russian Pilots Killed
    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160709/1042708976/russian-helicopter-downed-syria.html

    sputnik talking nonsense?

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  medo on Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:35 pm

    https://lenta.ru/news/2016/07/09/howitwas/

    It was Syrian helicopter Mi-25 and it was a test flight with Russian pilot instructors, but went to attack terrorists on request of Syrian troops fighting with ISIL. Considering it was a test flight, maybe Russians repair Syrian helicopter or made some modifications on it.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Project Canada on Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:41 pm

    Its confirned, Syrian mi-25 attack helo downed by Isis terrorists, 2 russian instructors killed. Muslim Isis sympathizers rejoicing on youtube commemts Rolling Eyes

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Resistance on Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:44 pm

    The longer this senseless war drags on, the more casualties for everyone. Can't stand Putin not decisively ending this war. Hopefully it's winding down with Aleppo siege.

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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:13 pm

    Aleppo take over ,could take a year if not more..playing by the book rules of
    Americans/UN, and Human RIghts groups.  Is a living urban hell. the fights have to be done apartment by apartment and so many tall buildings crapped together. US and NATO will not have problems to wipe the rebels terrorist if wanted to fight them. Because they simply as they did in IRAQ , they block the media from any report , and start bombing cities with civilians inside
    and use white phospurus. and or starve the rebel terrorist and they surrender when no longer
    can continue without food.   Russia in the other hand need to play by UN laws ,and allow food
    to enter in besiege zones.

    But liberating Aleppo will not end the war , still Turkey ,Saudi arabia, Jordan and Israel with American full support and logistics can continue sending more terrorist.  However still liberating
    aleppo will make things easier. it will liberate like 20k to 30k Syrian army soldiers from their
    defensive positions encircling aleppo.. and will be able to move to other fronts like IDLIB and latakia and secure it completely or Raqqa. ..  So it will create a major cascade
    effect , that will destroy the morale of the terrorist and many will surrender.

    So it will be a major game changing thing liberating Aleppo ,but the war will not end ,it will continue on a bit smaller level ,but still will be. Because the objectives of NATO is not only to overthrow Assad. they also want to damage Russia economy , as they did in Soviet afgan war , by forcing them to stay for a long time .  Putin counter this by having a small force there.

    So Russia plan in Syria can work ,as long they hold positions and little by little advance, then it will be NATO ,Saudi arabia and Turkey ,the ones burning their money in the war and not Russia.
    Russia will do well is providing a couple of hundreds of t-75 tanks to Syrian army to more easier
    hold palmyra and Aleppo zones and latakia, and create a manufacturing plant in Syria of T-75s
    tanks ,where they can be not only repaired ,but fully manufactured there in Syria ,so they can
    more quickly repair and restore their tanks and upgrade them.

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