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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:39 am

    Of course.. Putin invited foreign workers personally for the specific purpose of ripping them off so no eligible Russian voters could get screwed and might cost him a vote.

    If you are going to post bullshit from shit sources in the UK at least put warnings that reading that crap will lower your IQ.


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:20 am

    The usual NATO propaganda about Russian "corruption".

    Yo, f*ckwits who worship NATO's fake news MSM:

    1) The Sochi Olympics cost $9 billion.

    2) The $54 billion figure your precious MSM claims was spent on the Olympics actually mostly went into massive infrastructure
    projects. Highways through long mountain tunnels that no longer have to zig zag up slopes like primitive logging roads. New
    railway lines through mountain tunnels. Massive improvement in road and utilities in the Sochi region.

    3) You can see the effect of these investments using Google Earth. In particular, you can see all the new hotel and other
    development stretching along the Black Sea coast all the way to Abkhazia. Note the discontinuity at the border. If
    you go back 15 years there was almost no difference between one side of the border and other.

    4) The London Olympics was not associated with massive investment in infrastructure but the cost was 9 billion pounds
    or about $15 billion dollars.


    The Wikipedia page is utterly full of shit for claiming that infrastructure investment in Russia's Riviera on the Black Sea
    is all for the 2014 winter Olympics. The $54 billion - $9 billion = $45 billion will pay itself off in tax revenues. All that
    tourism (from Russia alone is enough) lasting year round will cover the investments rapidly.

    Note that English language searches using Google for Sochi Olympics costs dredge up 100% only the lie about the total
    infrastructure cost being part of the Olympics.

    http://www.funsochi.ru/blogs/funsochi/2014/gorod-prizrak

    Roza Hutor area is active even during the summer. But NATO's fake news media and its sycophants in Russia were claiming
    it was all dead and empty.

    http://www.vedomosti.ru/business/articles/2014/12/10/sochi-gotov-k-lavine-turistov

    The first post Olympics tourist season saw over 800,000 visitors and this number is increasing with time. The hotel prices
    are not cheap in Sochi. It is a world class tourist destination.

    http://www.so4ibig.ru/olympicsochi.html

    So we are looking several billion dollars per year of tourist revenue.

    http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1019328/sochi-2014-posts-5-billion-ruble-profit

    The above was found through a forum and not through Google. Sochi Olympics Organizing Committee made a $140 million profit.

    http://us-russia.org/2067-why-is-the-west-waging-a-campaign-against-the-sochi-olympics.html

    Direct Olympics facilities cost was $7 billion. Security, staffing and other costs make up the difference.


    The circle jerk of NATO fake news hit pieces that is dredged up by Google without any alternative information sources
    are so incredibly lame that they can't stand on their own. Any "journalist" who deliberately mixes up a one-time event
    with the development of Russia's prime tourist location has negative credibility. The $45 billion infrastructure investment
    will be recouped in less than 25 years, which is a very reasonable period.

    Also, the massive infrastructure development in Sochi was finished on time without massive time over-runs as is typical
    for corruption rotted projects around the world. I know the OP will claim that Sochi was corrupt anyway, but he will
    be full of sh*t as usual. Imposing a time table means imposing a budget. It is vastly harder for the contractors to rip off
    the government if things follow a schedule. There was no evidence of massive over-spending by the government to meet
    timelines as some sort of incentive. You did not see the number of workers on the construction sites increase by several
    times to scramble to finish on time. The classic corruption racket is to delay the project based on various pretexts.
    This automatically increases the money spent on the project.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:25 pm

    Washington’s allegations that Russia is supplying weapons to the Taliban are unprofessional and untrue, Russia's top diplomat said

    More:
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Sun May 07, 2017 4:04 pm

    George1 wrote:Washington’s allegations that Russia is supplying weapons to the Taliban are unprofessional and untrue, Russia's top diplomat said

    More:
    http://tass.com/politics/943113

    Even if it was true, America can go and eat shit. It sponsors the terrorists in Syria and elsewhere. In fact, it has always sponsored
    terrorists to advance its global control agenda (e.g. Contras in Nicaragua). Now it is crying that the Taliban are giving it a hard time.
    Perhaps Uncle Scumbag can bugger off from Afghanistan instead of whining like a retarded baby that he didn't get the candy he wanted
    (in this case control over Afghanistan). If Russia actually sponsored the Taliban it would be giving America a taste of its own medicine.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  miketheterrible on Sun May 07, 2017 4:18 pm

    A lot of what is said about Russia is pointless endeavor. It really doesn't matter in the end. Russia will just continue to do what it needs to do while the sweat can circle jerk around the thought of how evil Russia is. The saying the dog barks but the caravan moves on is very fitting.

    As Karzai said recently, that even if Russia is somewhat cooperating with Taliban, it would be very hypocritical of the US to complain as they helped them in the past by directly funding them, and then negotiated (still doing so today) with Taliban, just makes them look stupid. Karzai seems to paint Russia in a better light than anyone in the west does.

    But that is the point. People who are actually familiar with the region, and aren't useful idiots like most of England's community, would tell you what Russia has been coining in the last couple of years in the regions, has been more beneficial to all and constructive than what anything the US or UK has done in the last 50 years.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Sun May 07, 2017 5:31 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:A lot of what is said about Russia is pointless endeavor. It really doesn't matter in the end. Russia will just continue to do what it needs to do while the sweat can circle jerk around the thought of how evil Russia is. The saying the dog barks but the caravan moves on is very fitting.

    As Karzai said recently, that even if Russia is somewhat cooperating with Taliban, it would be very hypocritical of the US to complain as they helped them in the past by directly funding them, and then negotiated (still doing so today) with Taliban, just makes them look stupid. Karzai seems to paint Russia in a better light than anyone in the west does.

    But that is the point. People who are actually familiar with the region, and aren't useful idiots like most of England's community, would tell you what Russia has been coining in the last couple of years in the regions, has been more beneficial to all and constructive than what anything the US or UK has done in the last 50 years.

    I hope that the locals remember this instead of eating Yankee propaganda shit. I agree that the propaganda is mostly preaching to the choir and
    means squat for Russia. But too many in the developing world swallow it as well. A lot of mass media in the developing world is a US parrot chorus
    even if Uncle Scumbag has a history of making things bad in these countries.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  George1 on Wed May 17, 2017 2:28 pm

    Ukraine banned St. George ribbon as celebrating bigotry..

    Moscow slams Ukraine’s ban on Russian military valor symbol as anti-democratic move

    It is interesting to see how Ukraine will celebrate Victory Day next year, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said

    MOSCOW, May 16. /TASS/. The Ukrainian parliament’s decision to ban the St. George ribbon, a Russian symbol of military valor, is an anti-democratic and anti-historic move, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Tuesday.

    "To speak seriously, the decision is anti-democratic and anti-historic, throwing into doubt a principled possibility of some kind of the country’s unification," the Russian diplomat wrote on her Facebook page.

    "It is interesting to see how Ukraine will celebrate Victory Day and hold an Immortal Regiment march next year," she wrote.

    The Ukrainian authorities have neither the strength nor the will to solve real problems but "now they will find money for tiger-repainting," the Russian diplomat wrote.

    The Ukrainian parliament passed a law on Tuesday to ban the use of the St. George ribbon, a Russian symbol of military valor.

    The decision was supported by 238 deputies compared to the required minimum of 226 votes.

    "This law envisages an administrative penalty for wearing the so-called St. George ribbon during mass events," bill author and deputy from the National Front faction Anton Gerashchenko said, speaking from the parliament’s rostrum.

    As the deputy alleged, the Ukrainian parliament is thus countering "the Russian aggression in Ukraine" as it considered the St. George ribbon as its symbol.

    The administrative penalty won’t apply to World War II veterans wearing elements of the St. George ribbon in their military decorations, as well as to museum expositions.

    The new Ukrainian law stipulates a penalty of 850 to 2,550 hryvnia ($32-96) for the public demonstration of the St. George ribbon together with the ribbon’s confiscation.

    A repeat violation of this law during a year may entail a penalty of up to 5,100 hryvnia ($192) or an administrative arrest for up to 15 days together with the ribbon’s confiscation.


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sun May 28, 2017 6:38 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Odin of Ossetia wrote:

    Serbian and Other Foreign Workers Ripped off at Sochi


    http://www.millennialinflux.com/sochi-a-cold-reality-for-migrant-workers/

    http://slavorum.org/forum/discussion/comment/94231/



    If these were the most expensive Olympics ever, where did all the money go?



    I can tell you right now: "employment agencies" here in Serbia. Classic local ripoff.


    Perhaps the employment agencies are also to blame, but it is the Russians who are employers.


    It appears things have not changed for the better since then:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/inside-vladimir-putins-new-russia-9976578


    Russia has currently third highest wealth inequality in the world, with the richest 1% owning 97% of the country's wealth.

    Such an extreme disparity cannot last forever.


    I cannot grasp how can such a situation be called a "success" or "effective rule."


    It is either my posts about the Sochi foreign workers rip-off go back to being a separate threat, like it was originally the case, or I will seriously consider quitting this forum.


    Take from the poor and give to the rich:

    "There will also be 17 pounds of beluga caviar, given to the couple by an anonymous Russian donor."


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    Memo to James Clapper: Are Americans Genetically Prone to Regression?

    Post  Zaits on Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:27 am

    A loaded opinion piece, but it does make you wonder.

    James Clapper, former director of US National Intelligence, recently claimed that Russians were “genetically driven” to manipulate and interfere in the affairs of other nations, echoing the Weltanschauung of a bygone dictator who harboured similar views on those “inferior Asiatic” genes.

    One would be forgiven for momentarily assuming that Clapper was referring to his own nation. The United States has been warring for 93% of its miserable existence, entailing 222 out of 239 years of bloodshed between its founding in 1776 and 2015. No US president has ever led a continuous peacetime administration.

    Using Clapper’s logic, are Americans genetically prone to unremitting warfare and genocide?

    Just google: "Memo to James Clapper: Are Americans Genetically Prone to Regression?" for the article.

    PS. Here is the article: https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201705311054162561-memo-to-james-clapper/


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:48 am

    Zaits wrote:A loaded opinion piece, but it does make you wonder.

    James Clapper, former director of US National Intelligence, recently claimed that Russians were “genetically driven” to manipulate and interfere in the affairs of other nations, echoing the Weltanschauung of a bygone dictator who harboured similar views on those “inferior Asiatic” genes.

    One would be forgiven for momentarily assuming that Clapper was referring to his own nation. The United States has been warring for 93% of its miserable existence, entailing 222 out of 239 years of bloodshed between its founding in 1776 and 2015. No US president has ever led a continuous peacetime administration.

    Using Clapper’s logic, are Americans genetically prone to unremitting warfare and genocide?

    Just google: "Memo to James Clapper: Are Americans Genetically Prone to Regression?" for the article.  

    Clapper is a dime a dozen racist retard. Like all the other racist western retards, he is grossly underestimating Russia.
    It is an established pattern from the Teutonic Knights onward that western imperialist fucktards think they can roll over
    Russia with little resistance but in the end run away with their tails between their legs.

    It looks like western retards are itching for another drang nach osten. Perhaps Russia should impose the final solution
    to the western problem this time around.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Zaits on Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:56 am



    Clapper is a dime a dozen racist retard. Like all the other racist western retards, he is grossly underestimating Russia.
    It is an established pattern from the Teutonic Knights onward that western imperialist fucktards think they can roll over
    Russia with little resistance but in the end run away with their tails between their legs.

    It looks like western retards are itching for another drang nach osten. Perhaps Russia should impose the final solution
    to the western problem this time around.

    You captured it quite well. The hostility towards Russia cannot be fully comprehended unless one factors in the West's inglorious racist and eugenics movements, which, did not quite end with the Nazis.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Zaits on Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:00 am

    A sample of neuroplastic genetic regression; where lies are inverted into truth and dross for academic merit. This is just a snapshot of a nuke-armed, declining superpower that can no longer separate fiction from facts. Anyway, you have got to read this to believe what passes off for academic excellence in the US.

    Do penises cause climate change? The academic hoax that shows how generations of kids are paying good money to study pure, unmitigated, mind-warping drivel

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/do-penises-cause-climate-change-discuss/


    The academic paper, ‘The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct’, was a spoof. Yet it was peer-reviewed by two supposed experts in gender studies, one of whom praised the way it captured ‘the issue of hypermasculinity through a multidimensional and nonlinear process’, and the other of whom marked it ‘outstanding’ in every applicable category.

    From the nation that wants to bring "freedom" everywhere...scary!
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Zaits on Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:03 am

    A more scientific argument from 1993 (nearly a quarter of a century ago) that has not been resolved today due to the "sensitive nature" of the topic.


    Violence, Genes, and Prejudice


    Can genes make one person more likely to act violently than another? Can the question even be asked in a country where violence--in many people's eyes--has come to wear a young black face?

    http://discovermagazine.com/1994/nov/violencegenesand446

    As scientific debates go, the war of words over the genetic roots of violence has itself been marked by unusual violence. It has damaged careers, provoked comparisons with Nazi pogroms, and prompted bitter talk of science being corrupted by political correctness. It has also sparked passionate statements about racists, Luddites, and monkey sex. This is the stuff of great fiction.

    However, when one resorts to epigenetic and neuroplastic extrapolations to the West, it explain the popularity of the fake news phenomenon, which, is not restricted to just one racial group.
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    Does Your country celebrate Russia day?

    Post  Regular on Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:49 am

    Does Your country have community that celebrates Russia day? How does Your government view it?
    Well as You know Baltic people are bit paranoid when it comes to Russia and even West.

    Here are the pictures from Lithuania. Apart from some drunkards everything went just fine.
    http://www.delfi.lt/news/daily/lithuania/vilniuje-svenciama-tradicine-rusijos-diena-dainos-maistas-veliavos-ir-katiusa.d?id=74908700#!dgs=dgslt-249252:7473698

    To be honest I hear loads of crap being said between Russians and Lithuanians, fair enough, all of us have differences. I come from mixed backgrounds and I do understand both sides perfectly.
    But then again never did I hear venomous hate (zrada) close to what Ukrainians are spewing.

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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Austin on Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:42 pm

    New Democratic Bill to Establish a 'National Russian Threat Response Center', Thrusting America Deeper into Russophobia

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-16/new-democratic-bill-establish-national-russian-threat-response-center-thrusting-amer
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:51 am

    The Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet recently published the material Niclas Vent "Experterna varnar: Därför kan Ryssland anfalla Norrbotten" ("Experts warn: This is why Russia can attack Norbotten"), in which, with reference to the reports of the Swedish Royal Military Academy and the Joint Institute Defense Research (FOI) of the Ministry of Defense of Sweden reports that Russia plans to attack not only the Swedish island of Gotland (as everyone already knows), but also to northern Sweden.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2679680.html


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:27 am

    More Russophobia.. Now soirces from Norway talk for defense from imminent Russian attack

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2681327.html


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:13 am

    Fear mongering from them leads nowhere. They are trying their best in this current time to push the whole NATO agenda on their own respective population. But in reality, they do not even hold a chance of even fighting Russia outright and even winning. Things today are much different than the time during the Winter War. Formations, and large ones, are easy to spot and now, hitting them will be even easier with long range missiles. From the comfort of their own nation, the Russians can strike them and hard, without even having to go nuclear. Something they themselves probably also understand but don't care.

    Of course, if they pulled a blitzkrieg on Russia and take it by surprise, then it could be quite hard for Russia to counter it. Eventually they would be able to but at the expense of a lot of Russian land destroyed and people killed. But to pull a fast one on Russia is also hard because they are very keen on monitoring troop movements near their borders. Would be hard to be able to push any kind of multi front offensive without the Russians being warned ahead of time. At that moment, mobilizing forces and then uniting groups like the paramilitary with the military, would be quite enough to deal with the first multi front attempts. By the time the enemy forces could gain enough, Russia could build up a large enough force to push back and hard.

    I know they are all aware of this. So in the end, judging by how these articles are written, they are simply to sell idea's and push these countries to be further integrated into NATO.

    They wont attack Russia. At least I hope they don't. I do not think they are particularly this stupid. Because Russia isn't in short supplies of tactical nuclear warheads so it wouldn't take much to remove whole divisions off of a field.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:44 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Fear mongering from them leads nowhere.  They are trying their best in this current time to push the whole NATO agenda on their own respective population.  But in reality, they do not even hold a chance of even fighting Russia outright and even winning.  Things today are much different than the time during the Winter War.  Formations, and large ones, are easy to spot and now, hitting them will be even easier with long range missiles.  From the comfort of their own nation, the Russians can strike them and hard, without even having to go nuclear.  Something they themselves probably also understand but don't care.

    Of course, if they pulled a blitzkrieg on Russia and take it by surprise, then it could be quite hard for Russia to counter it.  Eventually they would be able to but at the expense of a lot of Russian land destroyed and people killed.  But to pull a fast one on Russia is also hard because they are very keen on monitoring troop movements near their borders.  Would be hard to be able to push any kind of multi front offensive without the Russians being warned ahead of time.  At that moment, mobilizing forces and then uniting groups like the paramilitary with the military, would be quite enough to deal with the first multi front attempts.  By the time the enemy forces could gain enough, Russia could build up a large enough force to push back and hard.

    I know they are all aware of this.  So in the end, judging by how these articles are written, they are simply to sell idea's and push these countries to be further integrated into NATO.

    They wont attack Russia.  At least I hope they don't.  I do not think they are particularly this stupid.  Because Russia isn't in short supplies of tactical nuclear warheads so it wouldn't take much to remove whole divisions off of a field.

    The only surprise attack on Russia that has a chance of working is a nuclear first strike. Conventional forces are like snails and would take a year to
    assemble a blitzkrieg force. I just don't see any conventional war having a chance since tactical nukes can wipe out ground forces at unsustainable
    rates. A post nuclear exchange conventional war is something else. Maybe such a war can be staged but that assumes that the nuclear exchange
    does not devastate the military capacity of the warring sides. This is dubious since nuclear weapons will be used exactly to degrade the war potential
    of the enemy. Civilian deaths and destruction of the economy are an added bonus.

    NATO is a pathetic pseudo-totalitarian entity that uses fear to justify its existence. It will be wiped out if it tries to actually suppress its fictional
    Russian threat.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:03 am

    I recall it was Medvedev (the one whom is a liberal) even put in place as tactical nukes to be first strike weapons used first in any major conflict. After it was passed in the Duma, it became clear to everyone, including the west, that Russia could and would use tactical nukes in order to wipe out concentrated troops. Large movements is noticeable. What NATO is trying to do is do a major buildup but with small troops here and there. But that hasn't fooled the Russians hence Russia's buildup in the west and far east. Now NATO troops are keeping it to a minimum number of forces near Russia's borders. Guess they figured they weren't as smart as they thought they were.

    Anyway. As I said, most of this is drumming up the population to accept high military costs and being part of an organization that is anything but about alliances.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:37 pm

    Russian diplomat slams decision on Nazi death camp Sobibor

    The Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman comments on Poland’s decision to bar Russia from renovating Nazi camp memorial


    MOSCOW, August 17. /TASS/. Moscow believes the decision not to include Russia in the project to establish a museum on the place of a former Nazi extermination camp in Sobibor an outrageous fact of historical amnesia, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at Thursday’s briefing.

    "We consider the decision of the international management committee responsible for the construction of the renewed museum on the place of the former Nazi death camp Sobibor not to allow Russia to participate in the project an outrageous fact of historical amnesia," Zakharova stated. "It is obvious that participation in memorable ceremonies cannot replace full participation in the committee and its work that is authorized to develop the conception for the future memorial, organize work on the site and control the financing."

    "[They] did not allow Russia [to the committee], having renounced shyly the earlier sent invitation, though we many times confirmed our willingness to make a contribution, including a financial one, to the memorial construction to eternalize the memory of the prisoners of that Hitlerite death factory that ceased to exists due to the heroic deed of a Red Army soldier," the diplomat explained.

    Zakharova also added that ambassadors from Israel and some European countries were summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry to give explanations of the decision to leave Russia outside the museum establishment project.

    "We were less surprised by the official Warsaw’s position. It has long been known for its Russophobian policy and strive for anti-Russian historical revisionism regarding this issue," she said. "However, the easiness with which our might-have-been partners under the project - the Netherlands, Slovakia and Israel - changed their position on Russia’s participation is bewildering, surprising and hard to understand."

    "In light of this, we have to invite to the Russian Foreign Ministry the heads of the diplomatic missions of the mentioned countries in Moscow for explanation and serious talks," Zakharova added.

    Sobibor was a Nazi German extermination camp located near the railway station of Sobibor in Poland. It operated from May 1942 to October 1943. Jews from Poland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union were transported to Sobibor by rail. Most were suffocated in gas chambers disguised as shower enclosures. From 150,000 to 250,000 people were murdered at Sobibor. The camp was closed shortly after the uprising of October 14, 1943 led by Soviet officer Alexander Pechersky, when about 600 prisoners attempted to escape. The Germans bulldozed the earth and planted pine trees over the camp’s territory to conceal its location. After the end of the war, Polish authorities erected a monument of a mother cuddling a child on the place, ma


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    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:38 pm

    Russian diplomat comments on Poland’s allegations about USSR starting World War II

    MOSCOW, August 17. /TASS/. The statement that Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski made accusing the Soviet Union of "significantly facilitating the launch of World War II," causes Moscow deep regret, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Thursday.

    She pointed out that it was not the first time that Polish politicians made statements about the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany being equally responsible for the outbreak of the world war. "We have always given clear but delicate responses to that, correcting our Polish counterparts and expressing our concern and our views on this matter," the Russian diplomat said. "We very much regret the fact that while attempting to justify their wish to revise history, they reject the great deeds of the Red Army and its liberating mission in Europe, as high-ranking Polish political figures seem to be ready to use forgery and allow themselves to make insulting remarks," Zakharova noted.

    "We believe that when they are not busy making allegations against Russia, some of the Polish officials should brush up some generally known facts," she went on to say. "During the 1930s, the Soviet Union remained a principal opponent of fascism. In the same time period, it was Poland that represented Hitler’s Germany in the League of Nations and rejected France’s proposal to adopt the Eastern Pact. All this led to the Munich Agreement reached in September 1938, allowing your country to seize a part of the carved-up Czechoslovakia," Zakharova said addressing Waszczykowski.

    She also noted that in 1938 and 1939, Warsaw refused to let the Soviet troops pass through Poland’s territory, thus aggravating the situation and serious consequences for Europe inevitable. "In the new foreign policy conditions, the Soviet Union found itself face to face with the danger of a two-front war, so it had to accept Berlin’s proposal to make the Non-aggression Pact," the Russian Foreign Ministry’s spokeswoman said. "Today, attempts to avoid a conflict or somehow delay it are described as evidence proving the Soviet Union’s complicity in Germany’s expansionist plans," she added.

    "Perhaps, in such an atmosphere, it is much easier to convince the public that there is the need to take down Soviet war memorials as the so-called traces of the occupation of Poland," Zakharova said. "However, any figments of history will sooner or later boomerang upon those who made them up," she concluded.


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    Warsaw invaded Czechoslovakia together with Nazi Germany right before the war started. Poland also sent their tanks in Prague in 1968 Shocked
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    KiloGolf wrote:Warsaw invaded Czechoslovakia together with Nazi Germany right before the war started. Poland also sent their tanks in Prague in 1968 Shocked

    Precisely.

    And let's not forget that USSR was last to sign non-aggression pact with Reich. Everyone else (France, UK, USA, Poland, etc...) had their in place long before.

    And there is this little tidbit here:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html
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    Post  KiloGolf on Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:57 pm

    One could claim Poland and Germany started the war when their invaded Czechoslovakia, together. Just using the same retarded logic, but in this case this event in Czechoslovakia, predates what they blame on the USSR later on.

    Polish tank (or East German?) crew having no idea what they're doing back in 68 in Prague:

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