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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:50 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    It's all the more galling when one considers that the Russians and Poles are cousins, and so the Poles should just let go of the past. The Russians also suffered during the Soviet era. The Russians could just as easily dredge up the fact that the Poles tried to conquer them centuries ago when Poland was an imperial power and hold that against them for an indefinite period. Being a lackey of the Zionist-American empire will not do the Poles any good, but they may be too embittered to realise that.


    hate to admit you r´re right mate... I hope nonetheless that  Poland will have a chance to realize who is  friend and who is the enemy...but it takes time...and effort to detox  brainwashed individuals as Damian and send current CIA approved ruling class to CIA HQ


    Honestly, you guys are as much of CIA agents as he is.

    Russia is not doing anything to create friendship between Poland and itself.

    Poland is being charged the highest price for the Russian natural gas in the world; even Ukraine pays less, after its price was recently doubled (at certain times it did not pay anything).

    There are a bunch of small parties in Poland that favor friendship with Russia, and Russia is not doing anything to support them. There was also the Self-Defence Party, which was friendly to Russia, but when two of its high-ranking members went to Russia they were murdered.

    Also the venomously anti-Polish historical movies Russia has made.

    Do not forget that Russia invaded Poland first, back in 981. Soon afterwards it even deported a portion of a Polish tribe. Yes, mass deportations took place over a thousand years ago.

    And what are those really stupid unit names like "Viking" and Variag"? I think you guys are fighting these guys in the Donbass; does this not really sound extremely stupid?


    Does that sound like friendship towards Poland?
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:02 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Honestly, you guys are as much of CIA agents as he is.

    Who is he? not sure who you are talking about


    Russia is not doing anything to create friendship between Poland and itself.

    In order not to list 10 top hostile Polish actions against Russia in last 20 years pls tell me what kind of friendly actions from Russia would you expect?


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    Poland is being charged the highest price for the Russian natural gas in the world; even Ukraine pays less, after its price was recently doubled (at certain times it did not pay anything).

    Poland rich country, signed with Qatar LNG can you pls compare prices? before we continue Smile BTW hint instead supporting Us in U-crying and blocking nord-stream Poland should join and enjoy cheaper gas maybe?



    There are a bunch of small parties in Poland that favor friendship with Russia, and Russia is not doing anything to support them. There was also the Self-Defence Party, which was friendly to Russia, but when two of its high-ranking members went to Russia they were murdered.

    Killed? by whom Putin personally or just sent Zakharova to do it? if they died maybe sam e killers that killed Leader of Samobrona. Just after he wanted to say report to district attorney about CIA concentration camps in Poland and their Polish connections?





    Also the venomously anti-Polish historical movies Russia has made.

    Like Katyn? like Czas honoru? to mention 2 latest " friendly movies" in Poland? or pretty recent host and moron in Polish TV lying about her granpa killed by soviet then she admitted it was a lie Smile just for dramatic effect





    Do not forget that Russia invaded Poland first, back in 981. Soon afterwards it even deported a portion of a Polish tribe. Yes, mass deportations took place over a thousand years ago.

    did you mean Cherven Townswar? there were Slavas (Czech, Poles, Lendians, Kievan Rus) war not Polish-Russian. AFAIK Polish Mieszko I conquered Cherven Towns in 9709s from Bohemian influence. Then was war with Rus (not Russia Smile - using Polish war in West they took advantage and took over ....untill 1030 Smile


    And what are those really stupid unit names like "Viking" and Variag"? I think you guys are fighting these guys in the Donbass; does this not really sound extremely stupid?

    Viking? What a Face What a Face What a Face Donbass? did you smoke anything? In Ukraine Russian speaking population in Donbass did not want to share Polish experiences from Wołyń (where upa/oun nazi slaughtered over 200,000 civilians in a way ISIS might learn a lot)
    and OUN/UPA was not SS Viking but SS Galizien

    Does that sound like friendship towards Poland?

    this sounds like you were enjoying US media during history lessons

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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  SturmGuard on Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:16 am

    You have opened a can of worms. When it comes to relations between Poles and Russians, I always like to point out some interesting facts: Russian oppresion of Poles in areas annexed in partitions is constantly brought up and amplified. However, during that same time, Poles in areas taken by Prussia or Austria for some reason never had the ability and desire to organise and revolt. More interestingly, a significant number of them were assimilated and germanised, compared to utter lack of similar cases in Russian areas. Coincidence? Btw. Prussian aristocracy and nobility, Bismarck included, have interesting family history.

    Secondly, let us examine the case of historical Rus' turncoats, converts and traitors. Starting from those pledging allegiance to ascending Lithuania, to Uniatisation and later Polonisation. Have a look at the leaders and nobility of both Lithuania and Commonwealth, the make up of their armies. This all culminated with Russyns/Ruthenians (as they were called there) fighting for Habsburgs in WW1, with conviction and distinction. The final act is the Bolshevik monstrosity that modern Ukrainians are. Just have a look at census data prior to and after the Bolshevik rise to power.

    Let us not kid ourselves: had the Poles came up with a candidate embracing Orthodox Christianity during Times of trouble, he would have ascended to Russan throne. Likewise, had the Polish king Augustus been more of a man, he would probably have married Catherine. And those hypothetical rulers would be as Russian as the historical ones were.

    Poles were the ones that remained true to their identity, tradition and culture. While a significant portion of Russians decided to join vehemently and decidedly anti-Russian Bolsheviks. Russians have practically no historical and political reason to despise Poles, not when their current problems are completely self-inflicted. That individual is an idiot, not even a useful one. After all, how many "Russians" have done and said far worse things in relation to Russians over the last 100 years?

    Sorry for an off-topic rant, but then again, the interesting part of Mythbusting was done way before I joined this site.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:25 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Honestly, you guys are as much of CIA agents as he is.

    Who is he? not sure who you are talking about


    Russia is not doing anything to create friendship between Poland and itself.

    In order not to list 10 top  hostile Polish actions against Russia in last 20 years pls tell me what kind of friendly actions from Russia would you expect?


    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Poland is being charged the highest price for the Russian natural gas in the world; even Ukraine pays less, after its price was recently doubled (at certain times it did not pay anything).

    Poland rich country, signed with Qatar LNG  can you pls compare prices? before we continue Smile  BTW hint instead supporting Us in U-crying and blocking nord-stream Poland should join and enjoy cheaper gas maybe?



    There are a bunch of small parties in Poland that favor friendship with Russia, and Russia is not doing anything to support them. There was also the Self-Defence Party, which was friendly to Russia, but when two of its high-ranking members went to Russia they were murdered.

    Killed? by whom Putin personally or just  sent Zakharova to do it? if they died maybe sam e killers that killed Leader of Samobrona. Just after he wanted to say report to district attorney  about CIA concentration camps in Poland and their Polish connections?





    Also the venomously anti-Polish historical movies Russia has made.

    Like Katyn? like Czas honoru? to mention 2 latest " friendly movies" in Poland? or pretty recent host and moron in Polish TV lying about her granpa killed by soviet then she admitted it was a lie Smile just for dramatic effect





    Do not forget that Russia invaded Poland first, back in 981. Soon afterwards it even deported a portion of a Polish tribe. Yes, mass deportations took place over a thousand years ago.

    did you mean Cherven Townswar? there were Slavas (Czech, Poles, Lendians, Kievan Rus)  war not Polish-Russian. AFAIK  Polish Mieszko I conquered Cherven Towns in 9709s from Bohemian influence. Then was war with Rus (not Russia Smile - using Polish war in West they took advantage and took over ....untill 1030 Smile


    And what are those really stupid unit names like "Viking" and Variag"? I think you guys are fighting these guys in the Donbass; does this not really sound extremely stupid?

    Viking? What a Face What a Face What a Face Donbass? did you smoke anything? In Ukraine Russian speaking population in Donbass did not want to share Polish experiences from Wołyń (where upa/oun nazi slaughtered over 200,000 civilians in a way ISIS might learn a lot)
    and OUN/UPA was not SS Viking but SS Galizien

    Does that sound like friendship towards Poland?

    this sounds like you were enjoying US media during history lessons



    What kind of Polish hostile actions in the last 20 years are you talking about?

    Like Poland invaded Russia or something?

    And I believe Poland was excluded from the Nordstream. How can you join something you are being excluded from? The dealings with Qatar were made after Russia charged Poland an extraordinarily high price for its natural gas. Recently Russia unilaterally reduced the price of its natural gas that it sells to Armenia, and Armenia already paid much less than Poland. You mean Russia cannot do the same to Poland?


    As far as who murdered these two high-ranking Self-Defence Party members, you mean Russia was not even able to protect them on its own territory? That is how effective Putin is?


    Czas Honoru was made after some disgusting Russian movies were made about Poles. I agree that it is a disgusting and misleading television series, but so are those anti-Polish movies Russians have made earlier.


    The Czerwen Strongholds were never under any Czech influence. They were Polish territory of the Polish tribe of the Lendzians (Lahs). Even a medieval Rus chronicle mentions that territory was wrested away by force in 981 from the Lahs (Poles). You mean that was not a war against Poles? Your own contemporary sources explicitly mention that it was.


    Oh really? Both were SS units:

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Rablow.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html


    Varangians repeatedly raided and pillaged the early medieval Rus, so you are experiencing some sort of a Stockholm Syndrome or something?
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:22 am

    Recently Russia unilaterally reduced the price of its natural gas that it sells to Armenia, and Armenia already paid much less than Poland. You mean Russia cannot do the same to Poland?

    Why should Russia sell gas for less to Poland... Poland is openly hostile to Russia... giving them cheap gas is not going to change the minds of those in power... so what would be the point?

    Less revenue and for nothing.

    Russia is no longer peddling an ideology, if Poland agrees to pay then there is no problem... if they refuse to buy and look elsewhere that is OK too Russia can sell to others.

    As far as who murdered these two high-ranking Self-Defence Party members, you mean Russia was not even able to protect them on its own territory? That is how effective Putin is?

    With that sort of mentality why would Russia want Poland to be a friend?

    If everything is Putins fault can you explain what another leader might have done differently to prevent the alleged attack?



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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:13 pm

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    This is not a history channel but military forum. Pls open new thread to continue. For reas refer to Garry B´s post pls.




    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    What kind of Polish hostile actions in the last 20 years are you talking about?

    NATO - AMD - preparation to aggression against Russia. As US cannon fodder at best.

    Continuous hostile actions in Politics and economy. Were have you been since 89? in Manaus iron mine without radio and internet?



    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    And I believe Poland was excluded from the Nordstream. How can you join something you are being excluded from? The dealings with Qatar were made after Russia charged Poland an extraordinarily high price for its natural gas. Recently Russia unilaterally reduced the price of its natural gas that it sells to Armenia, and Armenia already paid much less than Poland. You mean Russia cannot do the same to Poland?

    Qatar price is not public...because is so cheap right? bad gossips say ~30% more expensive.

    Twisted Evil

    Nordsteream look nobody was excluding Poland. Polish elites approved by US in 89 (without approval you never can be elite in Poland ) started furious anti-Russian campaign trying to fitght with Russia and Germany in spite of Polish interests. But what to expect by US henchmen?


    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    As far as who murdered these two high-ranking Self-Defence Party members, you mean Russia was not even able to protect them on its own territory? That is how effective Putin is?

    This is not even funny level of discussion. It is pahtetic.





    Czas Honoru was made after some disgusting Russian movies were made about Poles. I agree that it is a disgusting and misleading television series, but so are those anti-Polish movies Russians have made earlier.


    what precisely never saw any Russian movie aggressive and untrue towards Poland?


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    The Czerwen Strongholds were never under any Czech influence. They were Polish territory of the Polish tribe of the Lendzians (Lahs). Even a medieval Rus chronicle mentions that territory was wrested away by force in 981 from the Lahs (Poles).  You mean that was not a war against Poles? Your own contemporary sources explicitly mention that it was.
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    Poland there ? affraid affraid affraid at that time?
    Mieszko I first king of Poland was originally ruler of Polan tribe not Lendian. Poland started form gniezno not Przmysl. With time more tribes joined but Ledians were not Poles as Bohemians or White Croats . And this area was just rivalry between Kievan Rus and Poland

    Maybe wiki is not best source always but look first at the map huh?





    Varangians repeatedly raided and pillaged the early medieval Rus, so you are experiencing some sort of a Stockholm Syndrome or something?

    Viking was German SS Armoured division what this and Kievan Rus have in common? affraid affraid affraid

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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:03 am




    So what is Poland guilty of since 1989?

    I do not recall Poland invading Russia since that year. On the other hand, the Bieslan terrorists are known to have made frequent calls to Austria. Perhaps Putin should increase Austria's natural gas price?


    The Qatar thing is hardly a done deal. I do not support it, but considering how much Russia is overcharging Poland, I am not surprised that the latter is looking for other sources of natural gas.


    Murdering members of a friendly political party on its own soil, and refusing to support other political parties that are friendly to Russia is somehow supposed to be constructive?


    Mieszko was also a ruler of the Lendzians. In fact the Polans was only one of many Polish tribes. Even the current Hungarian and Lithuanian names for Poland and Poles are derived from the Lendzians. Even the old East Slavic and Varangian name for ethnic Poles is derived from the Lendzians as well (Lahs, which is another name for Lendzians).


    In fact in at least one of these retarded Russian pseudo-historical movies the Lahy are clearly translated into English as "Polaks."


    Varangians repeatedly raided and pillaged the early medieval Rus, and you see no problem with the New Russia units being named after them? Are you retarded, or is this really a case of some Stockholm Syndrome?


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Rablow.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html


    I support New Russia, and I think they fight for a just cause, but by using such unit names they make themselves look retarded. The real Varangians are their own enemies they are fighting.



    Lets face the truth, Putin and his government have done tremendous damage to Polish-Russian relations.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:44 am

    Putin did tremendous damage to Polish-Russian relationship?

    Putin calls the ENEMY WEST and all PROSTITUTES like Poland PARTNERS, while the Whore owners and their bitches are calling russia an ENEMY even Enemy Nr. 1 and are doing frequently military operations with Russia as the opponent. Who the fuck is damaging the relationship you stupid troll?

    I can't imagine someone is so indoctrinated into russohpbia to actually believe this horseshit that is why i call you a troll that would mean that i assume you are just dishonest based on hatred fueled by USrael's propaganda rather than lack of intelligence, which i do not recognize in you anyways.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:52 am

    Werewolf wrote:Putin did tremendous damage to Polish-Russian relationship?

    Putin calls the ENEMY WEST and all PROSTITUTES like Poland PARTNERS, while the Whore owners and their bitches are calling russia an ENEMY even Enemy Nr. 1 and are doing frequently military operations with Russia as the opponent. Who the fuck is damaging the relationship you stupid troll?

    I can't imagine someone is so indoctrinated into russohpbia to actually believe this horseshit that is why i call you a troll that would mean that i assume you are just dishonest based on hatred fueled by USrael's propaganda rather than lack of intelligence, which i do not recognize in you anyways.

    Obama ranked Russia a graver threat than ISIS and Ebola. I dare this troll-tard to find any similar trash talk from Russians, including the
    court jester known as Zhirinovsky that is treated as a serious political force by the western MSM.

    Poles have Russia derangement syndrome which is the base of the Putin derangement syndrome. Their western pals (e.g. Germany) did all the butchering
    of their ancestors but they hate Russia. Supposedly "Russians" sent many Poles to gulags. Well, you chauvinist dipwads, it was Stalin, Khruschev and
    others who sent them and they sent many more millions of Russians to these gulags. And it was Uncle Scam, the UK and Germany that financed the 1917
    commie revolution much like they finance color revolutions today for their geopolitical game of domination.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:57 am

    kvs wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Putin did tremendous damage to Polish-Russian relationship?

    Putin calls the ENEMY WEST and all PROSTITUTES like Poland PARTNERS, while the Whore owners and their bitches are calling russia an ENEMY even Enemy Nr. 1 and are doing frequently military operations with Russia as the opponent. Who the fuck is damaging the relationship you stupid troll?

    I can't imagine someone is so indoctrinated into russohpbia to actually believe this horseshit that is why i call you a troll that would mean that i assume you are just dishonest based on hatred fueled by USrael's propaganda rather than lack of intelligence, which i do not recognize in you anyways.

    Obama ranked Russia a graver threat than ISIS and Ebola.   I dare this troll-tard to find any similar trash talk from Russians, including the
    court jester known as Zhirinovsky that is treated as a serious political force by the western MSM.  

    Poles have Russia derangement syndrome which is the base of the Putin derangement syndrome.   Their western pals (e.g. Germany) did all the butchering
    of their ancestors but they hate Russia.   Supposedly "Russians" sent many Poles to gulags.   Well, you chauvinist dipwads, it was Stalin, Khruschev and
    others who sent them and they sent many more millions of Russians to these gulags.    And it was Uncle Scam, the UK and Germany that financed the 1917
    commie revolution much like they finance color revolutions today for their geopolitical game of domination.  


    Majority of ethnic Poles do not hold such views.

    You are misrepresenting the views of a handful of deranged politicians and are falsely equating it with the entire nation.

    Putin and his government did tremendous damage to the Polish-Russian relations, that is the sad truth.


    Care to explain why was not Austria punished for Bieslan?

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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:50 am

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/15/russia-more-dangerous-isis-polish-foreign-minister-witold-waszczykowski

    Russia is more dangerous than Isis, says Polish foreign minister

    http://www.lysator.liu.se/jokes/polish.html
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:02 am

    kvs wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/15/russia-more-dangerous-isis-polish-foreign-minister-witold-waszczykowski

    Russia is more dangerous than Isis, says Polish foreign minister

    http://www.lysator.liu.se/jokes/polish.html



    So you are condemning a whole nation because a single cretin said so?

    The guy is a Western puppet, it is extremely obvious, just like Putin is Germany's bitch.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:04 am

    Funny, since they are still buying equipment from Russia like generators and such.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:28 pm

    So you are condemning a whole nation because a single cretin said so?

    Doctor heal yourself... haven't you just been saying Russia is anti Polish because to pro Russian Poles were murdered in Russia?

    Isn't that like saying all of Russia is bad because a few or one Russian killed two Polish people.

    Your government represents you... if current members of your government are going to be allowed to identify the state of Russia as a greater threat to Poland than murdering terrorists then it is up to your government first and the Polish people second to put them straight.

    if he is not fired or not immediately protested against and forced to resign then you can pretty much assume what he said was no offensive enough to warrant any further action.

    In other words if your leader and the people of Poland don't speak out then they are basically agreeing with what he is saying.


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:48 pm

    +1 What Garry said.


    Can you tell us please how Putin is Germany's bitch?

    I am very curious to hear the reason how that can come.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:54 pm

    More seriously why we continue off topic here?


    GarryB wrote: In other words if your leader and the people of Poland don't speak out then they are basically agreeing with what he is saying.

    Try to voice you protest against Polish anti-Russian policy and then to get work or run business in Poland. good Luck!

    BTW Waszczykowski fas fed byl US grants from 90s so CIA prepare him for his role.



    Werewolf wrote:+1 What Garry said.


    Can you tell us please how Putin is Germany's bitch?

    I am very curious to hear the reason how that can come.

    Because all is fault of Putin don´t ya know? Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:21 pm

    Poland Claims Russia a Greater Threat Than Daesh

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160416/1038102383/poland-russia-existential-threat.html#ixzz460keav59


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    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:45 pm

    Kiev shipyard "Lenin's smithy" announced a competition for a new name

    According to the Kiev newspaper "The Kiev Times" with reference to the site "Lenin's smithy" of the plant, the company will soon wipe off the remnants of the Soviet raid (as in the original text - bmpd). The company, which is in the ownership of the current president of Ukraine announced the launch of the new title.

    Razz

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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Sat May 07, 2016 2:28 am

    I have noticed an attack on the Russian alphabet in a recent episode of one of the prime time US TV shows.
    One of the characters takes a dig at the "reversed" letters in Russian. This is epic f*cktard nonsense. These
    actors are speaking a language, English, which uses the Latin alphabet. None of the letters in this alphabet is
    unique to England. So to get on some high horse that Russians "ripped off the letter R and reversed it" as if
    they were retarded monkeys is simply grotesque. Kyrillos and Methodios created the slavic alphabet which
    is used in the Russian language. There was nothing wrong with them reversing R to make a letter for "YA".
    At least these two saints bothered to create a custom alphabet for slavic languages. English just got the
    alphabet of its colonial masters, i.e. Rome.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  sepheronx on Mon May 09, 2016 8:14 am

    So sdelanounas broke a Novaya Gazeta article that made some ridiculous claims:

    Debunking myths about the fresh industry Kaluga Region

    And even the author of the Gazeta article tried to defend himself by stating his comments purely come from the fact that the agricultural sector has been hit in Kaluga and that villages are dying. But essentially, someone else had to explain to him that as much as the land is as rich as Belarus, the weather sucks and that the soil does indeed require more work than needed, thus agricultural costs are higher and demand for the goods grown are not high. Although, someone stated that Kaluga could be investing in production of meat so have cattle and other such (maybe dairy as well) since the land doesn't require much work for the animals and the demand is much higher. But the article that sdelanounas points out is the success of the industrial sectors and growth in manufacturing and other such stuff.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  sepheronx on Wed May 11, 2016 5:29 am

    Good counter article:

    There's No Shortage of Liberal Propagandists on Russian TV
    Russia media counters western progapagda lies in an ingenious way - by simply letting the propagandists speak for themselves

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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  andalusia on Mon May 30, 2016 12:31 am

    I stumbled across this site and found this thread.  In the comments section, these Americans put down the Russian military. I would like people comments.

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1160701/
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  GarryB on Mon May 30, 2016 4:04 pm

    When you post a thread anywhere and start calling those you disagree with homos then you are not there for a meaningful and open and honest discussion.

    The fact that I agree with some of the things said I can perfectly understand such a response.


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    "Damian / Damian90": when being polish becomes a mental illness. Rabid nationalist personified

    Post  cracker on Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:28 am

    Ok one may ask why i create this thread. I've simply been outraged and shocked by what this dude has been saying lately on probably his most active lair nowadays: tank-net.

    I always respected this forum about tanks (not only) and learned a lot from it. As a matter of fact, "Damian" or "Damian90" was also active on MP.net. This dude has some great knowledge, and i used to learn from his posts, even though i've always disliked his arrogant and condescending tone.

    I bet most of you who run in these "circles" like me know "Damian" for a few years now. I think he even had a short stay on russiadefense, before being either banned or just butthurt and left on his own.

    Damian as been an integral part of the forums that i read for maybe 6-7 years now, i used to respect his technical knowledge and he more than once defended / explained russian/soviet AFV/tanks designs on so many forums, indiadefense (china and pak forums too), the tank-net and MP.net (uber epic russian photos thread)... Though you could always feel a bit of hatred towards Russia, russians, communist and putin, in his messages.

    Somewhere in 2014 or 2015 he apparently entered in the polish army, as he proudly states in various threads. He turned paranoid and just full mental on so many occasions, the 2014 events with crimea, maidan, donbass, have seemingly burned his braincells: he is persuaded than poland is the last stand against mad barbaric russian hordes who want to "rape" and "steal" europe, he supports 200% the militaristic, nationalist and let's say facist branches in poland, openly brags about it. He is seemingly persuaded than poland on its own thanks to its reformed army and ubermenschen technology can stop "russian invasion of europe".

    He seems to get his orgasms nowadays (for~3years it seems) by bashing soviet-era weapons that he calls "shit" compared to ubermenschen new polish weapons (rearmement plans), according to him new polish AFVs and small arms are the best in the world (kek), and socialist polish army equipement heritage is "shit" and made for peasants. He's fanatic like a little girly about the US and NATO (UK, GER) occupation of his country and gets a permanent boner when US, UK and GER armor troops train with glorious polish armor troops, preparing for the great day when they will all together repel the mongoloid hordes led by putin himself on his bear.

    I want to make this thread to report the sociopathic behaviour of this individual that has become completely mad and who isn't censored one bit on the places where he regularily posts. On tank net you can see Roman Alymov (a russian citizen who's Damian's worst ennemy, he openly threatens him to come to poland to see if he will go back alive in russia, for example) being smarter than him and always answering brillantly to Damian's madness. I smell that if Roman would dare a quarter of what the rabid polish says, he would get banned instantly. Damian posts on russophobic places, obviously, but tank-net is kind of free and neutral, even though likes of Damian speak much too loud.

    Anyway, share your experiences with Damian if you have any, report what you find if you see his posts, and, just let people know the truth about him, the good old "Abrams lover" who once had one or two good things to say, that's now a lobotomised leader of the russophobic internet team.

    Damian only lives by the words like "Katyn massacre" or "holodomor" among other things, he's like a broken record, a very anoying and noisy one. He praises ukraine only because it suits his russophobic agenda, maybe he forgot what "ukraine" with their dear Nazi friends, did to ~200.000 polish citizens during WW2.

    I wanted to post this in ukraine's war thread but i thought, it might be better in off topic.

    Enough, these are copy paste from tank net tread on ukraine: (from page 699 to last, you can read all you want yourself to have Roman's messages for example), these are just examples, his posts on various threads in tank net denote the same madness (100% anti Assad of course, pro ISIS (not openly but you feel it), etc...).

    http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38893&page=699

    "It's a disgrace there is Soviet flag there, Soviet Union was just the same criminal state as 3rd Reich was, there was no difference between the two."

    "Typical response of typical homo sovieticus."

    "As I said, it's a typical talk of typical homo sovieticus.

    Death of a millions? Who cares! It was all about making Russia great!

    And for homo sovieticus here, it's a sarcasm, go figure."

    "Oh so now you gonna insult other countries your Soviet Union invaded with 3rd Reich?

    Besides this, please do me that pleassure and come to my country and tell this to my countrymen, we gonna see if you return to Russia in one piece. Very Happy

    Also if you talk about our disput for Zaolzie region with Czech Republic, we solved that problem with them, and we appologized, as civilized people do, something Russians are unable to do it seems, because you never appologize, never say "yeah we done some bad things, we appologize". And this is now disgusting!"

    "Bravo for Ukraine!"

    "But it's like not giving Ukraine chance to sort things out on their own, it's your typical bullying by larger, stronger neighbour, and it's certain that if they suceed at Ukraine, they gonna seek another victim, afterall Putin needs external threat so nation won't be occupied too much with worsening economic state of their country and internal issues."

    "It will definately take Ukraine much longer to sort things out, but to even start they need peace. Truth to be told, the best thing would be for Ukraine to just let go Crimea and LNR/DNR, they will create more problems than good for Ukraine at this point, if Russia wants them so much and wants to drown money there, let them be."

    "Russians are not welcome, simple as that."

    "We all know that Nazis and you Soviets were in love before 1939 and up till 1941. But you little scumbags never admitt it, and never gonna say sorry. We apologized Czechs, and it was indeed a mistake. Dispute for Zaolzie region could had been solved different way.

    But hey that is a difference between a decent people and scumbags

    BTW it's hilarious that you put here a Soviet perspective on that subject. So what, Soviet perspective is better perspective than anyones else? Especially considering Soviets are born liers? Yeaht that's indeed hilarious.

    BTW 2 Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact is even more interesting lecture, showing how both of scumbags, Stalin and Hitler started to slice the cake (Europe) between the two. http://www.britannic...aggression-Pact

    But a lier and hipocrite Roman will not mention this, ohhhh noooo, he won't because truth about his beloved Soviet Union is such a difficult truth he can't swallow it."

    "Another worth thing to note.

    This is a briliant documentary about "glorious" Soviet Union and it's participation in war and before it. It looks like Russians attitude towards Ukrainians and other nations didn't changed, eh Roman? So who next you would invade after Ukraine I wonder? Who needs your glorious troops on his soil?

    And after this movie I always laugh when Roman is lamenting that monuments of Lenin (or other socialists/communists) are destroyed or removed in Ukraine or other countries."

    "Well definately our officers were not taking photos and movies with Nazis celebrating victory and planing invading other countries.

    Romand serious I wish I will meet you one day in person, and I will be able to show you what I think about you"

    "You Russians were supporting Nazis in genocide done on Jews and other nations. Just watch "The Soviet Story" documentary... oh wait you won't accept the truth because you are coward.

    And serious you I wonder if you would be so "brave" traying to insult other nations talking with me face to face, you little lier. I hope you will give me this pleassure.

    Besides this photo shows perfectly that Soviet = Nazis.  You were the same genocidal fuckers."

    "This describes Soviet Union perfectly, criminal state of criminal nation of murderers."

    "Fo me all of them are Soviets.

    Dzierżyński is considered a traitor and murderer, a common thug in Poland. Find a single memorial of him in Poland or a single Pole thet cherish him... yeah good luck.

    Besides it's funny how you support them, so Roman you support genocide and criminals, aren't you?"

    "Were they Soviet goverment, YES, were they murderers, YES, do you cherish them? YES, you are exactly the same as they were Roman.

    Besides your beloved country in recent history invaded Georgia, Ukraine, threatened Baltic States, Romania and Poland. Your beloved country is criminal country."

    "For socialists, yes, socialists like you, who killed innocent people. Tell me Roman, how many innocent Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Poles, your relatives murdered? I am really eager to know that."

    "And yet, not matter of your ancestors, you support agression on their country, shame on you!"

    "DNR and LNR are just bandits, they are not soldiers, they do ot wear state uniforms, they never sworn an oath to a state. For me as a soldiers they are nothing more than bandits, scumbags, that are robbing local citizens and endanger them. You might support them, but then you are the same scumbag. I can bet you never served in uniform if you do so, and if you served, then again, shame on you, you do not know what it is to serve and to be a soldier, only to be a typical bandit."

    "These are not soldiers, just armed groups. And you know why they are not soldiers? Because to be a soldier you need to belong to armed forces of a state LND and DNR are not states, not countries, simple as that.

    And vice versa, NKVD was made up from the same bandits and murderers as SS, both sides were worth each another. But NKVD murdered by SS and SS murdered by NKVD is nothing shocking, shocking how both SS and NKVD was murdering civilians, raping women and so on."

    "DNR and LNR are not a state, they do not have economy, they are not recognised and never gonna be recognised. Not to mention you are a fool if you believe Putin will ever let them be independent states. Putin needs them only to create problems for Ukraine."


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Acheron on Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:56 pm

    You have let an internet nutter get to you. There's no reason to spend excessive time and energy on internet trolls, they feed off that. From experience, I have found that there are several things to do with unreasonable nutters: 1) Report him and get him banned 2) In case where the forum is tolerant of trolling and flamebaiting simply use his weakness (polish nationalism, US fanboyism, egomania) to push his buttons and get him foaming at the mouth raging and/or crying (trolls can be trolled too).
    3) If all else fails, put him on ignore.

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