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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  OminousSpudd on Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:35 pm

    Ubisoft's Rainbow Six Siege Spetznas preview. Spot the BS. Also, the comments section is legendary.


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:53 pm

    Russia Is the US's Equal in Military Technology

    -The recent article in the National Interest is wrong in thinking that Russia is behind the US and military technology

    -Russia’s military responses are not conditioned by technological inferiority

    -Historical experience and the flood of new weapons coming out of Russia shows Russia is the US’s equal in military technology


    A recent article about Russia’s military in the US journal the National Interest republished by Russia Insider starts with the following statement:

    “The trend toward greater automation, including the use of remote control weapons and AI-driven autonomous warfare, will increasingly put the Russian military at a disadvantage.

    Russia does not have the technology to match Western automated systems and lacks the capabilities to develop such systems on its own in the foreseeable future. Russia’s defense industry is well behind Western militaries in automated control systems, strike drones, and advanced electronics of all kinds.

    The Russian government has recognized these gaps and, until recently, was attempting to rectify them through cooperation with the Western defense industry.

    However, the freezing of military cooperation between NATO member states and Russia in the aftermath of the annexation of Crimea and the concurrent imposition of sanctions by most Western states will preclude the rapid acquisition of advanced military and dual-use technology by Russian defense firms for the foreseeable future.”
    This theme - that Russia lacks the technology to compete with the West in weapons development - has been a constant of Western commentary about Russia since the 1930s.

    It has been repeatedly proved to be untrue. Examples are legion. Here are some of the most famous:

    1. The shock the Germans experienced in 1941 when they came up against Russian tanks like the KV1 and the T34, which were more advanced than their own;

    2. The shock the US experienced in 1949 when the USSR exploded its first nuclear bomb;

    3. The shock the US airforce suffered in the 1950s when it came up against the MiG-15 in Korea;

    4. The still greater shock the US suffered when the USSR in 1957 launched the world’s first artificial satellite, proving it had the capability to strike the US with intercontinental missiles;

    5. The shock in the 1960s when the US airforce found they were unable to achieve aerial dominance over Hanoi against a North Vietnamese airforce equipped with Russian fighters;

    6. The shock the Israelis suffered during the 1973 Yom Kippur war when they came up against Russian supplied anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles;


    7. The shock during the 2006 Lebanon war when the Israelis again came up against modern Russian anti-tank missiles.

    Since the 1970s there have been no occasions when the Western powers have had to fight an enemy equipped with the most modern Russian weapons. However recent defeats in simulated air combat by the Indian airforce equipped with Russian fighters of the US and British airforces suggest that if they did the results might be devastating.

    US and Israeli concern about the sale by Russia of S300 anti-aircraft missiles to Iran also suggests concern on the part of Western militaries about the capability of Russian weapons, as do reports that the US navy was deterred from close deployment near Crimea during the March 2014 Crimean crisis by the deployment of Russian land-based anti-ship missiles there.

    The article in the National Interest does make one point that is in part true. This is that Russia did fall heavily behind the US in drone warfare.

    This was not however because of technological backwardness. The USSR in the 1980s had an advanced drone programme. The reason it never came to fruition is because the USSR collapsed and Russia, which emerged out of the USSR, was caught up for decades in an existential crisis, which forced it to bring military procurement plans to a stop.  

    Russia does now have an active drone programme, the first examples of which are now entering service.

    A similar point can incidentally be made about Russia’s GLONASS satellite navigation system. This would have been in full operation decades ago - and soon after the US introduced GPS - if the USSR had not disintegrated when it did.

    The reality - as the record and the present situation both show - is that there is approximate technology parity between the the US and Russia. Since the US spends so much more than Russia does on defence, it can sometimes bring a particular technology into service more quickly than Russia can. However the Russians have repeatedly shown that whenever a technological gap arises they can quickly close it. The cornucopia of new weapons now appearing in Russia shows that has in no way changed.

    The persistence of this myth of Russian technological backwardness is remarkable given how often it has been proved wrong. At one level it shows how entrenched myths about Russia are.

    It explains many of the problems US war fighting has experienced since the end of the Second World War.

    The belief that Russia - the US’s chief military adversary and historically the main supplier of weapons to the US’s opponents - is far behind the US technologically has repeatedly led to the US over-investing in technology whilst neglecting other critical parts of its military system. This approach is guaranteed to fail when it turns out that the enemy is not so technologically backward after all.

    It is true - as the article in the National Interest says - that Russia will not waste its money by duplicating every weapon the US produces. At the same time some of the Russian strategies the article in the National Interest discusses make sense irrespective of cost or technological considerations.

    Given the heavy dependence of drones on secure communications it makes for example perfect sense for the Russians to develop their already very advanced electronic warfare systems in order to jam them. There are in fact already scattered reports of US reconnaissance drones being successfully brought down by jamming whilst overflying Crimea and Iran.

    Overall however, with its comments about Russian technological backwardness and its flesh-creeping talk of Russian cyber warfare, the article in the National Interest tells us less about Russian military plans and capabilities than about the illusions and prejudices of the author.

    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/russia-uss-equal-military-technology/ri9358

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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Werewolf on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:00 pm

    OminousSpudd wrote:Ubisoft's Rainbow Six Siege Spetznas preview. Spot the BS. Also, the comments section is legendary.



    This is conditioning in the West.

    Every game created by western game developers implement this propaganda filled garbage to create the picture their own heads are filled with.

    Go on any video game and pick up a russian designed weapon you will notice that the weapon has rust on it, lot of scratches to show its worn out, has always less accuracy then any pumpgun and visors are always dirty, uncleaned and bad designed with fat marks that cover half the target and make it horrible to use. That is not exception but general things western companies implement to keep the line of "russia old rusted junk" politics, be it on purpose with full knowledge of truth or just because they have already reached the 3rd generation where they believe everything and just repeat it as they see it, it does not matter that is something that is done on purpose.

    All western weapons are most off the time highly accurate, very low recoil, highly polished, no scratches or dirt on scopes to give them a better look, more modern, not worn out. That is subtile propaganda that is constantly used in Hoolywood and videogame industry.

    Same thing with this, they have no jack shit idea of russian equipment and do not even care that is why they have "self-made explosives" and not military degree explosives, which are russians are known to have highly sophisticated stuff for almost every imaginable job.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:10 pm

    Whats funny is that apparently in the game these guys are some of the most effective/fun to play as.  At least that is what the people on 4chan /v/ were saying.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  OminousSpudd on Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:37 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:Ubisoft's Rainbow Six Siege Spetznas preview. Spot the BS. Also, the comments section is legendary.



    This is conditioning in the West.

    Every game created by western game developers implement this propaganda filled garbage to create the picture their own heads are filled with.

    Go on any video game and pick up a russian designed weapon you will notice that the weapon has rust on it, lot of scratches to show its worn out, has always less accuracy then any pumpgun and visors are always dirty, uncleaned and bad designed with fat marks that cover half the target and make it horrible to use. That is not exception but general things western companies implement to keep the line of "russia old rusted junk" politics, be it on purpose with full knowledge of truth or just because they have already reached the 3rd generation where they believe everything and just repeat it as they see it, it does not matter that is something that is done on purpose.

    All western weapons are most off the time highly accurate, very low recoil, highly polished, no scratches or dirt on scopes to give them a better look, more modern, not worn out. That is subtile propaganda that is constantly used in Hoolywood and videogame industry.

    Same thing with this, they have no jack shit idea of russian equipment and do not even care that is why they have "self-made explosives" and not military degree explosives, which are russians are known to have highly sophisticated stuff for almost every imaginable job.

    Which is why Battlefield 4 even with all its money grubbing still managed to slightly impress me with their balanced take on all of the weapons implemented... Their last gun package update contained three Russian weapons (two of them very obscure in Western circles) and only one Western, which was British at that. Also the RU soldier's VDV gear is the most badass of the lot in my opinion.

    Also the best gun in the game is hands down the AEK-971.

    So it can be done...

    This representation of GRU/FSB Spetznas (they probably don't even know themselves) or whatever is so ludicrous I think there was probably interest money behind it.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  higurashihougi on Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:08 am

    Werewolf wrote:This is conditioning in the West.

    Every game created by western game developers implement this propaganda filled garbage to create the picture their own heads are filled with.

    Go on any video game and pick up a russian designed weapon you will notice that the weapon has rust on it, lot of scratches to show its worn out, has always less accuracy then any pumpgun and visors are always dirty, uncleaned and bad designed with fat marks that cover half the target and make it horrible to use. That is not exception but general things western companies implement to keep the line of "russia old rusted junk" politics, be it on purpose with full knowledge of truth or just because they have already reached the 3rd generation where they believe everything and just repeat it as they see it, it does not matter that is something that is done on purpose.

    All western weapons are most off the time highly accurate, very low recoil, highly polished, no scratches or dirt on scopes to give them a better look, more modern, not worn out. That is subtile propaganda that is constantly used in Hoolywood and videogame industry.

    Same thing with this, they have no jack shit idea of russian equipment and do not even care that is why they have "self-made explosives" and not military degree explosives, which are russians are known to have highly sophisticated stuff for almost every imaginable job.

    I have just played American Conquest: Fight Back and I confirmed most of the thing you said.

    In the game Russia is presented as the weakest and most backward European faction. But the fact is that Russia was one of the first ones who use barrel-drilled muskets, and Russia is the center of industrial revolution of Eastern Europe.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:09 pm

    Arma II and Combat Mission games portrayed Soviet/Russian equipment well. In both of them you can play as Russians and in CMBS there is an entire Russian campaign in which you fight as Russians against Ukrainians and Americans.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:42 pm

    OminousSpudd wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:Ubisoft's Rainbow Six Siege Spetznas preview. Spot the BS. Also, the comments section is legendary.



    This is conditioning in the West.

    Every game created by western game developers implement this propaganda filled garbage to create the picture their own heads are filled with.

    Go on any video game and pick up a russian designed weapon you will notice that the weapon has rust on it, lot of scratches to show its worn out, has always less accuracy then any pumpgun and visors are always dirty, uncleaned and bad designed with fat marks that cover half the target and make it horrible to use. That is not exception but general things western companies implement to keep the line of "russia old rusted junk" politics, be it on purpose with full knowledge of truth or just because they have already reached the 3rd generation where they believe everything and just repeat it as they see it, it does not matter that is something that is done on purpose.

    All western weapons are most off the time highly accurate, very low recoil, highly polished, no scratches or dirt on scopes to give them a better look, more modern, not worn out. That is subtile propaganda that is constantly used in Hoolywood and videogame industry.

    Same thing with this, they have no jack shit idea of russian equipment and do not even care that is why they have "self-made explosives" and not military degree explosives, which are russians are known to have highly sophisticated stuff for almost every imaginable job.

    Which is why Battlefield 4 even with all its money grubbing still managed to slightly impress me with  their balanced take on all of the weapons implemented... Their last gun package update contained three Russian weapons (two of them very obscure in Western circles) and only one Western, which was British at that. Also the RU soldier's VDV gear is the most badass of the lot in my opinion.  

    Also the best gun in the game is hands down the AEK-971.

    So it can be done...

    This representation of GRU/FSB Spetznas (they probably don't even know themselves) or whatever is so ludicrous I think there was probably interest money behind it.

    Well they indeed have managed to have some good features for the russians. The russians in BF4 have as the only faction good camoflauge that actually matches real camoflauge as a whole, not like the americans with camoflauge while running with completley different camo BP vest which breaks the camoflauge effect as whole. Duct tape on helmets, BP vest and sometimes white markings on a dark camoflauge is not really the best. I know duct tape is used like in real life to write down names on the backside of helmets so comerades know who is infront of them and so on but it is handled rather poor in comparision to how it used in reality. Also BF4 still has that horrible stereotypes of subtile propaganda, almost every russian visor is dirty even on tanks, they have dirt all over their sights, rust here and there and almost nothing is smooth surface while complete opposite is true for US. The other thing is that broke the entire gameplay to me is that Mi-28 since BF3 was a brick in air, while all other vehicles Z-10 vs AH-1Z in BF4 have no significant difference in flight characteristics. You can see such stereotypes abused in most games especially in CoD, a horde of russian soldiers an evil empire that managed to enslave entire humanity, but one fucking american average soldier manages to repell the entire Soviet Russian army. RPG's never fly straight they spiral like a Atak missile on steroids, guns have more rust on them then they have wood which is just another subtle propaganda that indicates backwardedness, even tho wooden stocks are preferable by soldiers choice over plastic. Lot of such things are seen in majority of games such bias that is hard to be ignored.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:49 pm

    Bravery of Soviet Soldiers Who Freed Poland Incontestable - Lech Walesa

    Former President of Poland Lech Walesa said that bravery of Soviet soldiers in liberating Poland from the Nazis, is incontestable.

    GDANSK (Poland) (Sputnik) – The bravery of Soviet soldiers in liberating Poland from the Nazis, is incontestable, former President of Poland Lech Walesa said.

    "Poles have no complaints against the [Soviet] soldiers. Soviet soldiers had been perishing and freeing Poland. This is all true," Walesa told RIA Novosti in an interview, adding that the desecration of monuments to Soviet servicemen is not normal.

    Warsaw has complaints against Soviet leaders, not its people, he added.

    "Everything is ok with Russian people but Russians have no luck with their leaders. After all, Russian people also paid a high price for communism," Walesa added.

    Moscow has repeatedly protested the demolition and dismantling of Soviet monuments in Poland in recent months.

    In September, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova announced that Russia demanded that Poland implement measures to stop the destruction of Soviet monuments.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151109/1029809567/soviet-soldiers-poland.html#ixzz3qzgXNt16


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:47 am

    I don't feel that a new thread is necessary but there are some myths that have no direct connections to russian military or history but tangle indirectly to it and i will post them here in same manner like before. Would urge others to do aswell.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:09 pm

    Kiev to remove Soviet emblem from landmark WWII monument



    More:
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    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:07 am

    UKRAINE TODAY's bullshit, Russia created daesh lol1 scratch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qyLlkU6aCc


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:38 am

    George1 wrote:UKRAINE TODAY's bullshit, Russia created daesh lol1 scratch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qyLlkU6aCc

    They didn't even try. And the comments are equally as retarded.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  higurashihougi on Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:12 pm

    Sincerely I want to ask, at the moment, in Russia, U.S. and Western countries, are there any people who honestly believe "Russia ruble is weaker and weaker and that means Russian economy is collapse" ?

    Recently I happened to witness a number of sub-human who repeats these lies from times to times and I had to repeat the same explanation again and again to show that they are being fooled by Wall Street Propaganda.

    So I wonder, in the international scale, how many individuals are still believeing in such lies ?

    BTW this morning I just happened to hear somebody say "Obama oil shale will crush Russian oil industry...".
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:05 pm

    I just got stricken by cecity and partial loss of hearing after that UAToday string.

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    Post  sepheronx on Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:40 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Sincerely I want to ask, at the moment, in Russia, U.S. and Western countries, are there any people who honestly believe "Russia ruble is weaker and weaker and that means Russian economy is collapse" ?

    Recently I happened to witness a number of sub-human who repeats these lies from times to times and I had to repeat the same explanation again and again to show that they are being fooled by Wall Street Propaganda.

    So I wonder, in the international scale, how many individuals are still believeing in such lies ?

    BTW this morning I just happened to hear somebody say "Obama oil shale will crush Russian oil industry...".
    Well, people who are ignorant on how economics work and how foreign exchanges work believe the crap.  The same people will also ignore any other news that counters it.  Ignorance is a bliss.

    Simply ask these people "how?" And they will never explain other than "according to "x" news, they say reason "y"", in otherwords, parrot what is being fed to them.  So what you can do is already have a prepared document/speech explaining why they are wrong. Then they usually have nothing to counter with other than repeating what they first said and thats all.

    It really breaks down for pure ignorance.  And as for shale oil, then simply point them to the direction of their beloved western news that is showing oil companies going belly up in US and Canada.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  OminousSpudd on Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:24 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Sincerely I want to ask, at the moment, in Russia, U.S. and Western countries, are there any people who honestly believe "Russia ruble is weaker and weaker and that means Russian economy is collapse" ?

    Recently I happened to witness a number of sub-human who repeats these lies from times to times and I had to repeat the same explanation again and again to show that they are being fooled by Wall Street Propaganda.

    So I wonder, in the international scale, how many individuals are still believeing in such lies ?

    BTW this morning I just happened to hear somebody say "Obama oil shale will crush Russian oil industry...".

    Oh, all the time. "Rush-a's economy is sunk, Putin has driven it into the ground, Russia will collapse anyday now!!1one!! UK haz same defense budget as Russia, so Russia weak, I wanna believe!"  angel
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:22 pm

    "Russia is a midget - I'll put her on her knees." Karl the 12th, XVIII century.
    Sweden forever lost great power status.

    "I will conquer backward Russia." Friedrich, the mid-eighteenth century. In 1759,
    the Russian army entered Berlin.

    "Russia is a colossus with feet of clay." Napoleon, XIX century. In 1814 the Russian
    army took Paris.

    "I will conquer the USSR by the end of the year." Hitler, the twentieth century.
    In 1945 he committed suicide when the Soviet army entered Berlin.

    Who's next?...

    Found on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fIlW5uRa1E&lc=z12nvv2xyzebebr2a22gtbzqqq3rvj1c5

    A peculiar western disease. They always project inferiority and weakness onto Russia and then get their
    asses handed to them on a platter when they try to invade.

    Obama and the rest of the NATO clowns are living up to this 1000 year tradition.
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    Post  higurashihougi on Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:02 am

    @kvs:

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    Post  kvs on Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:11 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:@kvs:



    All the examples cited by that clown are sideshow engagements. The western allies only got serious during WWII only after it
    became clear that Stalin would roll all the way to the Atlantic Ocean, namely in the last 11 months of the war. This short period
    between the opening of the second front and the end of the war is why many ignorant westerners think that the west won WWII.
    The eastern front consumed 80% of Nazi resources and Hitler's campaign started to fail after 1943 and Stalingrad. There were no
    "allies" helping the USSR at Stalingrad. The figures for lend-lease shipments also indicate that the most significant amounts came
    after 1943. In the last 11 months of the war the Nazi forces were in full retreat.

    Anyone claiming that Russia was helped by anyone other than itself during the war with Napoleon is a certifiable retard. Napoleon
    was sent packing with almost none of his Grand Armee surviving without any assistance. Napoleon blamed "General Winter" even
    though the main battles he lost were in the fall before the snow and cold arrived:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Borodino

    Russia does not have winter in early September and Napoleon retreated from Moscow in October of 1812 a few weeks before the
    first snow. This Wikipedia link is crappy, they don't really do a good job highlighting how Napoleon was outplayed and couldn't properly
    make use of his advantages.
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    Post  higurashihougi on Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:47 am

    Western propagamedia has a nasty tradition of downplayed the talent of Russian generals during the conflict against Napoleon. For example, they ignored the fact that Kutuzov managed to gauge Napoleon's tactics during 1805 campaign and Russia would have not lost if the Tsar had listened to Kutuzov.

    They also ignored the tactics and strategy of Kutuzov during the 1812 patriotic war, how he trapped Napoleon army inside Russia and cut all supplies for the France.

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    Post  Cyrus the great on Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:28 pm



    I was shocked when Damian claimed that the Russians possibly stole the designs of the autoloaders that we see in the T-72, from the Americans. lol1 lol1

    They are completely unaware of the US tank projects... heck most of the world is completely unaware in most cases of the many tank and tank related projects made in US.

    And example, in the 1950's in the US there was developed an autoloader for a 90mm ammo and gun, this autoloader created much earlier, is surprisingly similiar in general design to AZ series of autoloaders for T-72 and T-90 series of tanks. the only difference is calliber of ammo it stores and type of ammunition, the US design used unitary ammo, Russian one uses two piece ammo. So there is a serious posibility Soviets somehow got a knowledge about it, and copied it... which would not be surprising, Leonid Kartsev a back then chief engineer of UKBTM design bureau placed at UralVagonZavod factory is known for taking others designs, redesigning them, and pushing in to production as his own.


    Damian's anti-Russian bias is beyond ridiculous. It's cartoonish at this point.
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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:31 pm

    Cyrus the great wrote:

    I was shocked when Damian claimed that the Russians possibly stole the designs of the autoloaders that we see in the T-72, from the Americans.  lol1    lol1

    They are completely unaware of the US tank projects... heck most of the world is completely unaware in most cases of the many tank and tank related projects made in US.

    And example, in the 1950's in the US there was developed an autoloader for a 90mm ammo and gun, this autoloader created much earlier, is surprisingly similiar in general design to AZ series of autoloaders for T-72 and T-90 series of tanks. the only difference is calliber of ammo it stores and type of ammunition, the US design used unitary ammo, Russian one uses two piece ammo. So there is a serious posibility Soviets somehow got a knowledge about it, and copied it... which would not be surprising, Leonid Kartsev a back then chief engineer of UKBTM design bureau placed at UralVagonZavod factory is known for taking others designs, redesigning them, and pushing in to production as his own.


    Damian's anti-Russian bias is beyond ridiculous. It's cartoonish at this point.

    That is common for many poles, indoctrinated believing they are everything the west wants but not slavic. That guy is beyond madness with his russophobia.

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    Werewolf wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:

    I was shocked when Damian claimed that the Russians possibly stole the designs of the autoloaders that we see in the T-72, from the Americans.  lol1    lol1

    They are completely unaware of the US tank projects... heck most of the world is completely unaware in most cases of the many tank and tank related projects made in US.

    And example, in the 1950's in the US there was developed an autoloader for a 90mm ammo and gun, this autoloader created much earlier, is surprisingly similiar in general design to AZ series of autoloaders for T-72 and T-90 series of tanks. the only difference is calliber of ammo it stores and type of ammunition, the US design used unitary ammo, Russian one uses two piece ammo. So there is a serious posibility Soviets somehow got a knowledge about it, and copied it... which would not be surprising, Leonid Kartsev a back then chief engineer of UKBTM design bureau placed at UralVagonZavod factory is known for taking others designs, redesigning them, and pushing in to production as his own.


    Damian's anti-Russian bias is beyond ridiculous. It's cartoonish at this point.

    That is common for many poles, indoctrinated believing they are everything the west wants but not slavic. That guy is beyond madness with his russophobia.


    It's all the more galling when one considers that the Russians and Poles are cousins, and so the Poles should just let go of the past. The Russians also suffered during the Soviet era. The Russians could just as easily dredge up the fact that the Poles tried to conquer them centuries ago when Poland was an imperial power and hold that against them for an indefinite period. Being a lackey of the Zionist-American empire will not do the Poles any good, but they may be too embittered to realise that.
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    Similiar biased and lies from the same person.

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:09 pm

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    It's all the more galling when one considers that the Russians and Poles are cousins, and so the Poles should just let go of the past. The Russians also suffered during the Soviet era. The Russians could just as easily dredge up the fact that the Poles tried to conquer them centuries ago when Poland was an imperial power and hold that against them for an indefinite period. Being a lackey of the Zionist-American empire will not do the Poles any good, but they may be too embittered to realise that.


    hate to admit you r´re right mate... I hope nonetheless that Poland will have a chance to realize who is friend and who is the enemy...but it takes time...and effort to detox brainwashed individuals as Damian and send current CIA approved ruling class to CIA HQ

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