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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Werewolf on Sun May 24, 2015 8:38 am

    Apropos gaytrash methods of political abuse.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r29k_T_o9To&list=RDMMV5bYDhZBFLA&index=2&pxtry=1

    This video is banned in germany via GEMA which is nothing else today but a political tool to ban videos for german IP's despite they have no ownership of the music, this shit censorship private company that is unconstitunional because they are registered as a non profit organisation but make hundred millions each year, have no other purpose but blocking content because of political reasons like they blocked several videos of News ANNA or last year on MAIDAN blocked RT videos.

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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  whir on Sun May 24, 2015 9:17 am

    Kimppis wrote:Is Lithuania the most russophobe place on Earth? 0 points for Russia! That was fucking ridiculous. Very Happy Not politicized at all. Fucking assholes..
    It was the jury's fault, take a look.
    Eurovision wrote:In accordance with the Rules of the 2015 Eurovision Song Contest, Lithuania voted with 50% televoting and 50% jury voting

    Detailed Results

    Televoting rank -> Estonia 1, Latvia 2, Russia 3

    Jury
    A - Lauras Luciunas (music producer) - Russia 26
    B - Jolita Vaitkeviciene (choir Conductor) - Russia 13
    C - Jurga Cekatauskaite (journalist) - Russia 26
    D - Jurgis Bruzga (singer) - Russia 19
    E - Rosita Civilyte (singer) - Russia 10

    Combined -> Russia 11 = 0 points


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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Regular on Sun May 24, 2015 11:28 am

    Well Lithuanian jury didn't give points to Russia because of politics (Russian singer singing about peace and etc,) Televoters didn't give a crap and voted and gave predictable votes. Estonia, Latvia and Russia were top 3. Do these countries deserve them points. Hell should I know, all contest was so bland. People just vote for neighbors. Russia has plenty of them. Even Georgia gave Russia quite good score.
    But anyway I was watching Eurovision with MUTE ON and Iron maiden was playing in the background. This contest is so crap:D

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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Sun May 24, 2015 11:40 am

    Didn't Eurovision introduce this "jury" system after Russia won the contest in 2008? Up until then the winner of Eurovision was decided with a direct vote of citizens of countries who participate in the Eurovision. But after Russia won the current jury system was taken in place of direct vote.

    I guess they made this change to prevent Russia from winning to contest again. With these "juries" they can make sure that only the "correct" nations win the contest.
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    Post  Regular on Sun May 24, 2015 2:29 pm

    It's more to do with Balkans voting for each other. It was Balkanovision before.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  max steel on Sun May 24, 2015 3:31 pm

    Thank f-ing God russia didn't win ‪#‎ESC2015‬ and have to host that freakshow/LGBT pageant in Moscow next year. Whew! Way too close for comfort...


    Bearded weirdos, gays kissing on stage, PT Barnum would have loved it . Shame Ukraine didn't get through......Topless femen sluts with swastika armbands would have put the icing on the cake!

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    Post  whir on Mon May 25, 2015 2:35 am

    max steel wrote:Thank f-ing God russia didn't win ‪#‎ESC2015‬ and have to host that freakshow/LGBT pageant in Moscow next year. Whew! Way too close for comfort...

    Bearded weirdos, gays kissing on stage, PT Barnum would have loved it . Shame Ukraine didn't get through......Topless femen sluts with swastika armbands would have put the icing on the cake!
    In 2003 EBU prohibited T.aT.u. to kiss on stage after complains from several countries, with Ireland among them that gave the victory to Turkey in the last moment after switching to the backup jury for technical reasons.

    Moscow 2009 First Semifinal Interval Act (Alexandrov Ensemble + T.aT.u. + inflatable pink T-72) russia


    Ukraine didn't want to participate this year for economic reasons Rolling Eyes.

    Another fun fact: Ukrainian Anastasia Prikhodko represented Russia in 2009 after being chosen by Russian viewers and jury. Last summer Anastasia Prikhodko and Ukraine 2014 Zlata Ognevich (current Radical Party MP) raised money for 72nd Guards Mechanized Brigade.
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    non sense on Russia

    Post  collegeboy16 on Mon May 25, 2015 5:10 am

    whir wrote:
    Bearded weirdos, gays kissing on stage, PT Barnum would have loved it . Shame Ukraine didn't get through......Topless femen sluts with swastika armbands would have put the icing on the cake!
    In 2003 EBU prohibited T.aT.u. to kiss on stage after complains from several countries, with Ireland among them that gave the victory to Turkey in the last moment after switching to the backup jury for technical reasons.
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    yuri is cool Laughing . but yaoi, eughhh. almost as if they are against straight dudes with prohibiting lesbians getting it on on stage and condoning eughhh.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:15 pm

    NATO propagandist and Serbian 5th column member is upset that 'Russia as a country still exists':




    ...Anyone still questioning whether NATO wants Russia Balkanized?

    Then there's the infamous Madeleine Albright quote:

    "Siberia is too large and rich to belong to one country." - Madeleine Albright
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Neutrality on Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:21 am

    If Russia EVER gets Balkanized throuugh Western intervention then they'll finally have their Pandora's Box. All those movies like The Sum of All Fears and Crimson Tide will become reality. All kinds of leaders having their hands on the nuclear button? I don't think they really want that.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:57 am

    This is unrelated to military issues, but it highlights how western propaganda brainwashes the gullible masses.

    The stories about Yuschenko being "poisoned" with dioxin and the Nord Ost theater siege are worked into Hollywood
    movies and TV.   For example, the movie Transcendence the poison cake is supposedly laced with dioxin.   This is
    pure nonsense since dioxin does not act like a regular poison and kills you on the spot.   It makes you sick and then
    you can die later due to complications.   Yuschenko's face was disfigured by chloracne that result from dioxin ingestion
    but he is very much alive today.   That Hollywood felt the need to pimp dioxin as a "poison" shows political motivation
    and not just script writer creativity.

    Then they also include Polonium in the bullet that kills a key character. This is obvious brainwashing. How about
    including some dimethyl mercury in the bullet. A tiny amount of it will kill you in a slow manner. BTW, the UK did
    not open up its reactors for verification on the source of the Polonium that killed Litvinenko. Litvinenko's patron
    Berezvosky also died after he had a falling out with the western elites and wrote letters to Putin trying to arrange
    for a return to Russia. How convenient.

    The TV show NCIS had one episode where the Dubrovka theater hostage rescue was smeared as "Russians using poison
    gas".   It was actually an anesthetic gas and the reason that many hostages died was because it is difficult to control
    the dose and resuscitation has to be prompt.   People died from asphyxia because their breathing was put to sleep
    and the paramedics were delayed from reaching the scene.   It is tragic but all the western masturbation about how
    25% of the hostages died was grotesque and obscene.    Hostage rescues are very messy and such a death rate is
    actually considered a "success".  

    I noticed this brainwashing via the entertainment industry a long time ago.   Political themes and events were regularly
    worked into movies and TV during the cold war.   It is pathetic that westerners can have their views on world events
    be framed via fiction.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:47 am

    As of right now, with Putin's popularity up to 89% and that Russians account for about 95% of the population from far east to far west of Russia, nearly impossible. Only regions that could potentially separate are Chechnya, Daegestan, Ingushetia, and some others. Tatarstan couldn't as it would be completely surrounded and an economic blockade would destroy it, plus half of the population is Russian. It is real wishful thinking of the US government because majority of them are so stupidly ignorant that they think that Russians would turn on other Russians, as they don't see them the same people but similar to like Serbs and Croats or something.

    But chalk it up to US politicians to be this stupid. Oh, and some Serbian witch that goes in contrary what her country wants.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:51 am

    kvs wrote:This is unrelated to military issues, but it highlights how western propaganda brainwashes the gullible masses.

    The stories about Yuschenko being "poisoned" with dioxin and the Nord Ost theater siege are worked into Hollywood
    movies and TV.   For example, the movie Transcendence the poison cake is supposedly laced with dioxin.   This is
    pure nonsense since dioxin does not act like a regular poison and kills you on the spot.   It makes you sick and then
    you can die later due to complications.   Yuschenko's face was disfigured by chloracne that result from dioxin ingestion
    but he is very much alive today.   That Hollywood felt the need to pimp dioxin as a "poison" shows political motivation
    and not just script writer creativity.

    Then they also include Polonium in the bullet that kills a key character.   This is obvious brainwashing.  How about
    including some dimethyl mercury in the bullet.   A tiny amount of it will kill you in a slow manner.   BTW, the UK did
    not open up its reactors for verification on the source of the Polonium that killed Litvinenko.   Litvinenko's patron
    Berezvosky also died after he had a falling out with the western elites and wrote letters to Putin trying to arrange
    for a return to Russia.   How convenient.  

    The TV show NCIS had one episode where the Dubrovka theater hostage rescue was smeared as "Russians using poison
    gas".   It was actually an anesthetic gas and the reason that many hostages died was because it is difficult to control
    the dose and resuscitation has to be prompt.   People died from asphyxia because their breathing was put to sleep
    and the paramedics were delayed from reaching the scene.   It is tragic but all the western masturbation about how
    25% of the hostages died was grotesque and obscene.    Hostage rescues are very messy and such a death rate is
    actually considered a "success".  

    I noticed this brainwashing via the entertainment industry a long time ago.   Political themes and events were regularly
    worked into movies and TV during the cold war.   It is pathetic that westerners can have their views on world events
    be framed via fiction.

    The people who actually believe this stuff should try it at home to see if it works or such. Would love to hear about that on the news.

    People are becoming inherently retarded, at least from the US and even Canada. But whatever, they will have to live with whatever consequences (well, we are already seeing the consequences of our stupidity - hear about the guy from Winnipeg that was arrested for saying he cant blame ISIS for wanting to kill us, because what we have done in the middle east?). Our entire country is turning into one giant shithole and Harper is clearly helping with having NOS added to the vehicle that is our country.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  ExBeobachter1987 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:48 pm

    Ukrainian were once Russians and they did turn against Russia.
    It is not impossible to turn the present-day Russians against each other.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:51 pm

    We've seen what just 23 years can do, ukrainians today believe they are not russians but an own ethnicity with the name "At-boarder-living" and kill their own people on behalf of zionazis and americans while screaming suicidal phrases "Death to russians".

    I actually wish someone would do that to US so they can have decade long civil war of their own and leave rest of the world alone, propsering and thriving.

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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:01 pm

    Werewolf wrote:We've seen what just 23 years can do, ukrainians today believe they are not russians but an own ethnicity with the name "At-boarder-living" and kill their own people on behalf of zionazis and americans while screaming suicidal phrases "Death to russians".

    I actually wish someone would do that to US so they can have decade long civil war of their own and leave rest of the world alone, propsering and thriving.

    Werewolf wrote:We've seen what just 23 years can do, ukrainians today believe they are not russians but an own ethnicity with the name "At-boarder-living" and kill their own people on behalf of zionazis and americans while screaming suicidal phrases "Death to russians".

    I actually wish someone would do that to US so they can have decade long civil war of their own and leave rest of the world alone, propsering and thriving.

    Is not actually that difficult..
    Any new born ukrainian after the 90s.. had to be born under a
    New Government bribed by the west to promote Rusophobia nation wide.
    If you have people from childhood being told Russians eat babies and they are mongols painted white,Ukrainians will believe it..  The CIANazification of Ukraine began with the split of Ukraine
    from soviet union in 90s.. and all the way integrated on its education system.. including children text books. But the first DeRusophication was made by Germans few years before World War 1 and Bolshevick Revolution. But Ironically the major De-Rusophication of Ukraine came from
    the Soviet union . Because of the banning of religion and chistianity from Russian lands.. and when bolshevicks jews came to Power in Russia for first time. Ukrainians compared Europe with Soviet Union Communism and noticed how superior was the standard of living of Europeans vs
    them.. Probably had never a bolshevick revolution happened in Russia ,Ukraine will have never existed and only one language existed.. Russian. But Combination of Western Europropaganda
    with Soviets Union repression on Religion and other things ,helped to create separatism.
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    Post  Regular on Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:43 pm

    Werewolf wrote:We've seen what just 23 years can do, ukrainians today believe they are not russians but an own ethnicity with the name "At-boarder-living" and kill their own people on behalf of zionazis and americans while screaming suicidal phrases "Death to russians".

    I actually wish someone would do that to US so they can have decade long civil war of their own and leave rest of the world alone, propsering and thriving.
    It took a year to turn majority of Ukrainians against Russians. While only few Russians hate Ukrainians as for now.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:45 pm

    ExBeobachter1987 wrote:Ukrainian were once Russians and they did turn against Russia.
    It is not impossible to turn the present-day Russians against each other.

    Yes and no.  Prior to Russian Tsar ruling, a huge portion of western Ukraine was part of Poland and for hundreds of years, would have had anti Russian sentiment.  A huge portion of Ukraine now is being governed by western Ukraine and the anti Russian sentiment is mostly from those regions.  You may hear it coming from eastern Ukraine too, but how much do you want to bet it is people whom are not of Russian-Ukrainian heritage.  It is predominantly the Polish Ukrainians and their compatriots that are a problem.

    Eastern Russians and Western Russians are simply Russians, and there was never a question about identity and such in any part of history, be it recent or farther past.  So I don't buy into the whole "they can be taught to be different".

    Regular wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:We've seen what just 23 years can do, ukrainians today believe they are not russians but an own ethnicity with the name "At-boarder-living" and kill their own people on behalf of zionazis and americans while screaming suicidal phrases "Death to russians".

    I actually wish someone would do that to US so they can have decade long civil war of their own and leave rest of the world alone, propsering and thriving.
    It took a year to turn majority of Ukrainians against Russians. While only few Russians hate Ukrainians as for now.

    Anti Russian indoctrination happened for quite a long time.  Let us not forget that now, Russia is swimming with Ukrainians whom are fleeing Ukraine.  Clearly not all Ukrainians are anti Russians.  Simply they were too stupid to see what they were doing.

    Only ones whom are screaming death to Russians are usually the useful idiots.

    This was posted in the Ukrainian thread:



    Ukrainianization has been going on for a very long time. Now that Soviet Union is no more and Russia is its own entity, the concept of Ukrainianization or balkaninization of Russia will not be able to happen. This is currently evident. What is even more funny is that in the last 20+ years, Russia has been under ridiculous amount of bullshit from foreign entities and they have been pushing the balkanization of Russia for some time, and now Russian identity is more powerful than ever. I wonder why? Because Russians are not stupid.
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  kvs on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:24 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:We've seen what just 23 years can do, ukrainians today believe they are not russians but an own ethnicity with the name "At-boarder-living" and kill their own people on behalf of zionazis and americans while screaming suicidal phrases "Death to russians".

    I actually wish someone would do that to US so they can have decade long civil war of their own and leave rest of the world alone, propsering and thriving.
    It took a year to turn majority of Ukrainians against Russians. While only few Russians hate Ukrainians as for now.

    This is patently false. The brainwashing started even before 1991. The Holodomor myth was used to poison relations between
    Russians and a minority of Ukrainians. Given the polling results over the last 10+ years, 50% of Ukrainians do not hate Russians.
    These Ukrainians have been robbed of their voice by the coup dictatorship. Holding votes with only the anti-Russian parties
    participating is a sham. That is in addition to having goons controlling the electoral commission so none of the voting can even
    be trusted.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:26 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Regular wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:We've seen what just 23 years can do, ukrainians today believe they are not russians but an own ethnicity with the name "At-boarder-living" and kill their own people on behalf of zionazis and americans while screaming suicidal phrases "Death to russians".

    I actually wish someone would do that to US so they can have decade long civil war of their own and leave rest of the world alone, propsering and thriving.
    It took a year to turn majority of Ukrainians against Russians. While only few Russians hate Ukrainians as for now.

    This is patently false.  The brainwashing started even before 1991.   The Holodomor myth was used to poison relations between
    Russians and a minority of Ukrainians.  Given the polling results over the last 10+ years, 50% of Ukrainians do not hate Russians.
    These Ukrainians have been robbed of their voice by the coup dictatorship.   Holding votes with only the anti-Russian parties
    participating is a sham.   That is in addition to having goons controlling the electoral commission so none of the voting can even
    be trusted.

    It wasn't even that.  During last elections, the turn out rate was apparently appalling, about as appalling as Poroshenko's party total votes, which sadly enough, was the majority (a little over 20%).

    I have little faith in Ukraine, but let us not assume that the whole nation is anti Russian.  I imagine if Russia just walked in Ukraine, there would be a massive partisan group easily willing to work with Russia.  Most are simply afraid.

    If the US would try to be successful in doing such an attempt of balkanization of Russia, they would have tried it in the 90's when Russia had no money. They wont be able to. The other issue is that like I mentioned, Russians all over Russia view themselves as Russian, and there hasn't been any push for self identity amongst them as well, it is simple really. And let us be real here, now that Russia is far richer than they were before, and as well, their government has been pushing hard against foreign NGO's and dealing with them properly, it will be nearly impossible for them. In Ukraine, for such a long time, there was constantly anti Russian, pro Ukrainian and Polish sentiment, even before soviet union. Yugoslavia is another matter too since we all know they pitted one another against each other using the "history" against each other. It would defiantly be hard to use history against these regions in Russia as it was Russians who moved into these regions hundreds of years ago, and pretty much outnumber the local populations, not to mention interracial marriages (Shugoi is an example).
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    Re: Common Lies, Russophobia, Nonsense on Russia:

    Post  medo on Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:17 am

    ExBeobachter1987 wrote:Ukrainian were once Russians and they did turn against Russia.
    It is not impossible to turn the present-day Russians against each other.

    Not really. Russian part of Ukraine, which was in history known as Malorussia is fighting against Ukraine for their connections with Russia. The western part of Ukraine, which hate Russia was never part of Russia but part of Poland. If you listen them, you will find out, that their Ukrainian language have a lot of Polish words. There is not only Russia-Poland division, but also religion division as Russian part is Orthodox christian and Polish part is more Catholic christian.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer on Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:18 am

    Werewolf wrote:We've seen what just 23 years can do, ukrainians today believe they are not russians but an own ethnicity with the name "At-boarder-living" and kill their own people on behalf of zionazis and americans while screaming suicidal phrases "Death to russians".

    I actually wish someone would do that to US so they can have decade long civil war of their own and leave rest of the world alone, propsering and thriving.

    The problem is that the West can protect itself against outside interventions like this. It is virtually impossible for any outside power to stage a civil war in countries like Germany, France, Britain, UK, Canada, Australia or the United States. These countries know how to take care of themselves. And they know how to stage coups, civil wars and instability in other countries that do not belong to the Western club. They are strong and the rest of the world is weak. Ukraine is the latest example of that. The Eastern Slavs let themselves to be fooled into this madness by the outsiders. Russians are spilling the blood of other Russians. The Eastern Slavs let their guard down after 1991 and the West immediately made their move with their NGO's and other tools. And the Eastern Slavs paid the price. Never let your guard down, never.

    The only hope for the rest of the world is that some kind of a major natural disaster happens in the Western hemisphere (like a big meteor hitting the northern part of Atlantic Ocean or a major eruption in Yellowstone). Otherwise the rest of the world is too weak to take down the West, and even too weak to protect itself against the West. Russia is a perfect example of it. Russia, under Putin, spent 15 years to feed a monster populated by other Russians (Ukraine) that the West programmed with its NGO's to attack Russia. Russia did nothing to stop this. Absolutely nothing. Russia trusted that government-level relations are enough and completely ignored the ground roots level work (NGO's, training pro-Russian militias etc.) that SHOULD have been done in Ukraine immediately after the breakup of the Soviet Union. Russia let its guard down after 1991 and thus lost Ukraine.

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    Just another day in Russia..

    Post  Vann7 on Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:21 pm

    You have heard of US and Europe sanctions on Russia and Russia "economic Crisis " a lot and how people are "suffering" because of "Evil Putin invasion"and western sanctions..  there are several channels that shows daily life in Russia.. and haven't seen what western media
    claims yet.. of a crisis going and Russia economy in shatters are Obama claims.
    or endless lines for bread..

    We are lucky that there are several blogers posting in youtube every day their life in
    Russia, so you can see here some videos of how western sanctions are affecting
    life in Russia. Poor Russians they all want to be Free in Europe or escape to America.  Smile

    Danilovsky Market, Moscow ,Jun 18, 2015



    Gorky Park-Moscow ,Jul 6, 2015  


    Ulyanovsk normal day June 2015


    this is a bit older from Jul 2014
    American basketball player in Russia how he see things Smile





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    You have heard of US and Europe sanctions on Russia

    Post  Karl Haushofer on Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:23 am

    I liked the attitude of that American basketball player. He clearly respected the Russian culture and did not have the same "cocky" attitude towards Russia that some Finnish hockey players do who come to play hockey in the Russian KHL league.
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