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    Post  x_54_u43 on Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:24 am

    Some Interesting Photos, sorry for their delay, I was reorganizing my photo library, more to follow after this post.

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    Post  Mike E on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:14 am

    Are the thermal images from Armata? If so; how'd you get them, and HOLY CRAP is that a step up from the Catherines.

    Actually they might be from a rifle? Not sure.

    Great pictures.
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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:21 am

    Mike E wrote:Are the thermal images from Armata? If so; how'd you get them, and HOLY CRAP is that a step up from the Catherines.

    Actually they might be from a rifle? Not sure.

    Great pictures.

    They are from IWT scope, here is link:

    http://inwetech.ru/product/intellektualnyj_robotizirovannyj_malogabaritnyj_teplovizionnyj_pricelnyj_kompleks_iwt_lf640_mk2


    They are a Russian company that makes very high quality "smart" thermal imager scopes, sorry if I mislead anyone.

    If anyone has any questions, please ask.
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    Post  OminousSpudd on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:22 am

    Mike E wrote:Are the thermal images from Armata? If so; how'd you get them, and HOLY CRAP is that a step up from the Catherines.

    Actually they might be from a rifle? Not sure.

    Great pictures.

    Either way it shows significant progress. Given the battery indicator I'd say it's an independent attachment.
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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:29 am

    Here are some more images from video on their website.

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    The top is at 34 degrees Celsius clear weather.

    The middle is at a fog and 17 degrees

    The bottom is at a haze an 16 degrees.
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    Post  Werewolf on Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:20 am

    Wasn't that the Autosniper Fire Control Sight System Scope?

    The one that calculates trajectory to the target and provides a reticle were to aim?
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    Post  Mike E on Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:21 am

    I think so, it is marketed as being "robotic".

    And it better be at 2.72 million Rubles. tongue

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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:25 am

    Werewolf wrote:Wasn't that the Autosniper Fire Control Sight System Scope?

    The one that calculates trajectory to the target and provides a reticle were to aim?

    That one precisely, if you visit the link posted, there you can find 4 videos seeing the scope in action.
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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:32 am

    Here is a explanation for the different markers and indicators.

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    Here are some of my screenshots.

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    Post  Mike E on Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:18 am

    Would you happen to know if it uses a Russian thermal detector?

    I heard something about French/American technology in it at Otvaga.
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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:29 am

    Mike E wrote:Would you happen to know if it uses a Russian thermal detector?

    I heard something about French/American technology in it at Otvaga.

    I am not in the Russian Federation right now, so I cannot call and ask, and right now I do not feel like creating an account on guns.ru.

    Tomorrow I will ask around though.

    Before that, stay tuned for my Shwabe Thermal Imager special report.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:48 am

    Great thread, personally I would like for George1 to merge this thread with the Russian military photos thread, as all these posts are very relevant for that thread. Good job BTW! Very Happy


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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:49 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Great thread, personally I would like to George1 to merge this thread with Russian military photos thread, as all these posts are very relevant for thread. Good job BTW?

    Thanks, I put lots of effort into the thread title. Glad you appreciate it.

    Good titles on threads are the bread, butter, peanut butter, and jelly of any forum. Long huge threads with obscure titles are barriers to knowledge.
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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:27 am

    Mike E


    "The company is a full cycle of development and maintenance of products, ranging from scientific research and experimental research, production, and ending with the release of serial production, the design of objects, installation and maintenance of equipment at customer sites." - From the company website.


    No clue what this means, but its what I got for now. Maybe means they are all inhouse...they do use Linux in their sights.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:11 am

    Mike E wrote:Would you happen to know if it uses a Russian thermal detector?

    I heard something about French/American technology in it at Otvaga.

    Russia has production of a lot of thermal type technology. Everything from the Matrix itself (as being seen in the optic system on lets say the Armata) to other additional sensors as seen from Elvees manufacturer.

    At this point though, which one is cheaper to get and develop? Depends on the items. I have seen Russia use optics that use Sony type sensors and processor as example.
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    Post  x_54_u43 on Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:27 am

    Ok everyone, here is my Schwabe Special!

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    Post  x_54_u43 on Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:32 am

    More interesting things

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    This image below shows a concept radar vehicle with the power of an 18 story radar, through radiofotoniks it accomplishes this.

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    Post  x_54_u43 on Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:09 am

    Some Radiofotoniks related things.


    This is where crystalline structures are grown to make laser lenses and mirrors.

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    Above is the final product.

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    I have it on good authority that radiofotonik technology is actually onboard the PAK-FA.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:22 am

    x_54_u43 wrote:

    I have it on good authority that radiofotonik technology is actually onboard the PAK-FA.


    You probably mean it's on a PAK-FA airframe test bed, KRET has mentioned bringing ROFAR's towards the PAK-FA 'smart-skin' suite, but the official timeline for when ROFAR's is ready is by the year 2020.

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    The Photonic based 2nd-gen AESA, KRET's official name for it is ROFAR. Yes, KRET has mentioned using trucks to base OTH radars using ROFAR technology.

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Unbelievable, Viktor and GarryB will love this! Rostec just dropped a bombshell the size of the Tsar Bomba!!! As I already pointed out the strategic importance to develop 'Photonics' (lasers replacing electrons in electronics, a field backed by the Foundation for Strategic Studies). This Rostec article recognizes that the domestic electronics industry is significantly behind the West, and also the strategic importance in jumping ahead of everyone in the field of 'Photonics'. It documents the potential of 'Photonics' when it's fully developed, and the success of KRET developing the field photonics and it's application in radars, with very promising results in the field while it's in it's infancy.


    Some VERY important data points in the article:

    1.) Electronics based on photonics will have decreased the need for 'servers' down to 1/100th the current level, and will increase the data transfer rate by 10 fold!

    2.) When fully mature photonics will allow truck based radars to have the same power, resolution, and capability as massive OTH radars!

    3.) KRET's early work in radiophotonics (photonics based radars) are incredibly promising. Developments in the field while it's in it's infancy allows airborne radars (AEW while based on photonics) weight to be cut down 1/2 the current weight, and increased the resolution by 10 fold!

    4.) Photonic based radars will have it's ECM resistance grow by several orders of magnitude! Will be heavily resistant to electro-magnetic storms...

    5.) By the 2020's photonic based AESA radars will grow by leaps and bounds in capability. The weight of AESA radar will be cut down by 1.5 to 3 times, increase the reliability and efficiency by 2 to 3 times, and increase the scanning speed and resolution by several dozen times that of contemporary AESA radars!

    6.) Photonics can also be effectively applied in housing, for example, in urban and rural heating systems. Instead of hot water energy photons will be used. They will be distributed in photonic crystal fibers with a thickness of human hair, the energy of which is converted into heat with almost 100% efficiency!

    KRET creates a laboratory for research in Photonics

    The group has been developing radar and EW systems based on new technologies

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    In recent years, electronic systems all often replaced on the photon. Linked it in the first turn with a different physical nature of the photon. That same is a photon and what unique capabilities of military technology will provide a new direction – believe that radio Photonics?

    Faster electron

    Photonics is essentially analogue electronics, are used instead of electrons are quanta of the electromagnetic field – photons. These are the most common number of particles in the Universe, unlike electrons, do not have mass and charge. Therefore, photonic systems are not affected by external electromagnetic fields, have much better transmission range and bandwidth of the signal.

    As a field of science Photonics began in 1960 with the invention of the first important technical devices using photons, laser. The very term "Photonics" began to be widely used in the 1980-ies in connection with the beginning of widespread use of optical fiber transmission. By the way, in our country the first development of such fiber optic cables engaged in the design Bureau of the cable industry, now part of KRET.

    We can say that these developments have made a revolution in telecommunications in the last century and became the basis for the development of the Internet. Actually, until about 2001 Photonics was largely focused on the telecommunications.

    Today "telecommunication" Photonics helps in the creation of a new direction – radio Photonics, which arose from the fusion of electronics, wave optics, microwave optoelectronics and other fields of science and industrial production.

    In other words, believe that radio Photonics deals with the problems of transmission, reception and transformation of information by using electromagnetic waves of microwave range and photonic devices and systems. Believe that radio Photonics allows you to create radio frequency devices with the options that are unattainable for traditional electronics.

    Modern radio apparatus moves in the optical range, and ignoring this fact often leads to very serious consequences. For example, initially in the design of information and telecommunication, service and technical networks of the super-Jumbo A380 were not included photonic network. Used aluminum cable, and its length was more than 500 km away. This has led to serious problems on Board the aircraft. For their decision required a full replacement of all cable networks on each side of which was built for the A380. The result – two years of delays and almost 5 billion euros in financial losses, and the largest Corporation narrowly escaped financial collapse.

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    Radiophony breakthrough

    In microelectronics Russia, as you know, behind the Western countries. It is through technologies in the field of radio Photonics invited to compete. Today Russian scientists in the sphere of defense technologies consider it impossible to give up electrons and to pay attention to the photons which have no mass and fly faster.

    According to experts, servers, operating on the principles of Photonics, decreased a hundred times compared to the current, and the data transfer rate would be increased tenfold.

    Or, for example, a ground radar station. Today, this radar is a multi-storey building, but if you start to believe that radio Photonics work, then the station can be installed on a conventional truck. The efficiency and range will be exactly the same – thousands of kilometers. Several mobile and small complexes can be combined into a network, which will increase characteristics of these radars.


    Believe that radio Photonics instead of electronics

    Photonic technologies will significantly expand the capabilities and airborne radars. New developments in this area more than twice reduce the weight of existing antennas and radars, tenfold increase their resolution. Also radiophonic antennas will be a unique resistance to electromagnetic pulses, which occur, for example, during close lightning strikes or when solar magnetic storms.

    All this will create a broadband radars that level of resolution and speed can be called radar vision. Such system is also planned in the civil sphere, for example, on high-speed trains for instant detection of obstacles on the tracks.

    Photonics can also be effectively applied in housing, for example, in urban and rural heating systems. Instead of hot water energy will act photons. They will be distributed in photonic crystal fibers with a thickness of human hair, the energy of which is converted into heat with almost 100% efficiency.

    Laboratory of the future

    In Russia radiophonie technology develops KRET. Today, the group and the Foundation for advanced studies working on a promising project "Development of active phased array-based radio Photonics" (ROPAR). The project includes the creation of a special laboratory on the basis of the Concern and the development of universal technology, which will be the basis for radar and electronic warfare systems for the new generation.

    According to KRET CEO Nikolai Kolesov, the latest technology will allow in 2020 to create an effective and advanced transmitting / receiving apparatus, radar, electronic intelligence and electronic countermeasures of the new generation.

    One of the main areas of work will be the creation of an active phased array (AESA) of the new generation, in which the main elements were created using the principles of radio Photonics. They will reduce the weight of the system is 1.5-3 times increase in 2-3 times the reliability and efficiency, as well as dozens of times to increase the scanning speed and resolution.


    If successful, the technology will open up new opportunities for improving the "smart skin" that will be on the Russian aircraft of the latest generation, including the PAK FA. Such a system of built-in elements throughout the area of the fuselage will allow the crew to get in any time solid radar picture within a radius of 360 degrees, will provide for the operation of antenna systems in active and passive radar, raising all kinds of noise, secretive and noise-immune data transmission, communication with the ground and other aircraft, hoopsnake and more.

    In addition, on the basis of new materials and elements, created on the basis of the principles of Photonics, KRET will learn the advanced technologies of high-power photodetectors and semiconductor laser modules.

    KRET creates a laboratory for research in the field of photonics

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    Post  x_54_u43 on Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:49 am

    magnoncromagnon wrote:You probably mean it's on a PAK-FA airframe test bed, KRET has mentioned bringing ROFAR's towards the PAK-FA 'smart-skin' suite, but the official timeline for when ROFAR's is ready is by the year 2020.

    Do you honestly think I am retarded enough to think that radio photonics are on a operational PAK-FA? And no, radio-optical phased array antennas are not the only thing that radio photonics can do, have you considered the possibility that PAK-FA might use fiber optics in its electronic systems? Oh and by the way, since there are no operational PAK-FAs, and only prototype aircraft exists, it stands to reason that I refer to prototype platforms.


    As for the rest of your post, thanks for quoting yourself, you must really like hearing yourself talk. In this case, read your own posts. As for that Rostec article, its laughable.

    Read this instead if you would like to learn about Russian radio photonics, and note the date: May 12, 2012. That is how long I have been aware of this.

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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:55 am

    What is wrong with the Rostec article?  Russian development in the field of Photonics is being developed by Rostec, so they would have a thing or two in the field.
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    Post  x_54_u43 on Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:58 am

    sepheronx wrote:What is wrong with the Rostec article?

    Everything

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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:59 am

    x_54_u43 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:What is wrong with the Rostec article?

    Everything


    Please elaborate. Or we can take it you are simply trolling. Let me remind you, Rostec owns or partially owns KRET. So why would they simply provide no detail or BS regarding their own investment and work?


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