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    Post  ultron on Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:30 pm

    It is a mistake on Russia's part to let Nusra breed in Idlib province. Nusra breeds about 50,000 new warriors per year in Idlib province. They would become the biggest national security threat to Russia.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:04 pm


    Russian MoD: 250 Al-Nusra Front Terrorists Killed in Aleppo in Past Week

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160411/1037841000/nusra-front-aleppo.html
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    Post  ultron on Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:39 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian MoD: 250 Al-Nusra Front Terrorists Killed in Aleppo in Past Week

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160411/1037841000/nusra-front-aleppo.html

    Every Nusra fell on the battlefield is replaced by 10 more. Time to bulldoze Idlib province.
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    Post  Vann7 on Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:01 pm

    ultron wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian MoD: 250 Al-Nusra Front Terrorists Killed in Aleppo in Past Week

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160411/1037841000/nusra-front-aleppo.html

    It is a mistake on Russia's part to let Nusra breed in Idlib province. Nusra breeds about 50,000 new warriors per year in Idlib province. They would become the biggest national security threat to Russia.

    Every Nusra fell on the battlefield is replaced by 10 more. Time to bulldoze Idlib province.

    Even if 1 million of jihadist show up , Russia have all the tools to handle it.
    how many terrorist you think a bomb like this can kill ?  Smile

    Syrian Civil War: News #7 - Page 23 Nuke

    here the potential damage of just one nuke of 5 megaton. about 15km radius kill of every
    living thing.

    Syrian Civil War: News #7 - Page 23 +301-text-pfs-020

    from 10km to 13km of a nuclear bomb of 5megaton. it will collapse concrete and break every bone. is a fatal kill. from 15km to 17km ,third degree burns with 100% probability ,arms or legs will need to be amputated if people not killed instantly and blind too.

    10 bombs of those will be 150km radius. This will be enough to cover all northen Syria
    ,including Latakia ,IDlib ,Aleppo and Raqqa. how many soldiers you place in 150km area?
    I bet like 10 millions soldiers will fit nicely there.  enough to stop a full scale NATo + Jihadist invasion.  Cool

    Just relax a little ,dude. We cannot know for sure what is Russia trying to do. It is possible that Russia is allowing terrorist to move away from their safe bunkers and force them to fight in the open in positions that it will be hard for them to defend and even hold in the place. For sure whatever it is. it will be better if Russia manage to concentrate all the terrorist in one single place and then drops many dozens of 1 ton weight termobaric high super tnt bombs from Tu-160 planes.  and wipe totally a city the terrorist are grouped. Then all them wiped fast. But if you start fighting terrorist when they are very dispersed ,then you will not get many and they will retreat and go back behind civilians for cover.

    Russia have the Air superiority and those NATO manpads are not going to do anything to Russian planes. Learn something about Ukraine war ,how the Pro Donetsk fighters encircle 8,000 pro kiev soldiers and wiped/wounded most of them. The only thing that could threaten seriously RUssia is Turkey/israeli airforce invading Syria to bomb Syrian forces or even attack them ,but also backed by a many hundreds of modern tanks ,but that will be an open war. and it will not end well for those planes with S-400s in Syria. and kornets EM will wipe any NATO tank.

    About 50,000 warrior per year.. the more the better , Russia can farm them. Better to kill
    them in Syria and not in Russia. Because if NATO can get such high numbers of terrorist for Syria ,nothing stop them ,to do that in another place and lets say attack Kaliningrad or Kazakistan next to Russian borders.

    Aside that all those 50,000 jihadist needs food ,munitions and weapons ,it cost a lot of money ,
    Russia will be playing a war of attrition on Turkey ,Saudi and US that needs to finance their
    terror squads. just like they doing in Ukraine. in short Russia have all the tools to defeat the
    terrorist in just one day . even if their numbers were in the 1 million. so relax a little .the chaos in Syria ,until now Russia can handle it.  Russia however cannot show every weapon they have so later NATO can spy on it.  Russia specially can wipe out very easily the terrorist using chemical weapons too. Weapons that blinds terrorist or that put to sleep an entire city like Idlib with Gas. No one in tunnels will be safe from such kind of warfare. So regardless of the numbers ,the terrorist are not prepared to fight Russia if Russia really wants to hold a place. So weather is nukes or chemical weapons , or other crazy weapons Russia have everything to defeat them .As long their miltary base is not under threat and invaded Russia can continue in the offensive.
    the victory in Syria however have to be done on a political level too and not just military.
    Russia also cannot use all their technology and weapons in Syria unless is really needed ,So that later NATO cannot learn all the tools Russia have and later be prepared to better fight Russia.

    heck if Russia use nukes ,with just a dozen of free fall nukes of 1 megaton each,in less than 24 hours Syria recover 100% of its territory , Idlib fall ,Aleppo ,Raka, all. But the military victory alone is not enough , political and diplomatic too matters and public opinion. If i was Putin, i will try to get 100% of all the terrorist ,and not allow a single chechen to return to Syria . So allowing Turkey to send reinforcements to Idlib and Aleppo can be used to Russia advantage if
    they all wiped ,all other fronts will collapse for not having any one else to fight. They are many muslins extremist in the world to recruit but they will get tired of dying for nothing. If they notice they stand not a chance to win with Russia there. it will be even a bigger victory. because will dissuade any terrorist in the future to try to invade Russia ,knowing they have no chance to win.


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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:55 pm

    Reading the above posts from the 'unnamed' I sometimes I think I have wandered into some kind of alternative Universe, a cloud cuckoo land.
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    Post  SturmGuard on Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:56 pm

    That would be trolls and/or imbeciles, John. Don't worry about them.


    Carry on, nothing to see here, people.
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    Post  Vann7 on Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:03 am

    SturmGuard wrote:That would be trolls and/or imbeciles, John. Don't worry about them.


    Carry on, nothing to see here, people.

    Who is the imbecile? Laughing
    I only see an imbecile here. that is you.
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:08 am

    ISIS claim another SyAF plane downed

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-isis-downs-syrian-jet-eastern-outskirts-damascus/
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:11 am

    The Technicolour version of that list of arms that went to the terrorists

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/weapons-us-sends-to-syrian-rebels-2016-4?r=US&IR=T


    Part of the Janes article on it

    https://twitter.com/JeremyBinnie/status/718456819128131585
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:21 am

    The troops in the back bail out OK.

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    Post  d_taddei2 on Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:37 am

    i think are about to get really tough for the SAA etc, Aleppo offensive is probably going to be its toughest yet, and will also need the help of the Kurds and not just the Kurds in Aleppo city, but the Kurds in Northern Aleppo need to keep the pressure on ISIS and FSA etc to stop them attacking SAA in Northern Aleppo, and the Kurds in western Aleppo will be needed to make a push south/south east of their position. But if the SAA etc manage to pull this off, and liberate Aleppo city and surrounding countryside this could spell the death of FSA etc.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:58 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:i think are about to get really tough for the SAA etc, Aleppo offensive is probably going to be its toughest yet, and will also need the help of the Kurds and not just the Kurds in Aleppo city, but the Kurds in Northern Aleppo need to keep the pressure on ISIS and FSA etc to stop them attacking SAA in Northern Aleppo, and the Kurds in western Aleppo will be needed to make a push south/south east of their position. But if the SAA etc manage to pull this off, and liberate Aleppo city and surrounding countryside this could spell the death of FSA etc.

    Big victories are never easy and this one could win them a war. Whatever the plan is they better be ready, bring their A game and listen to people who know thing or two about this stuff.

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    Post  nemrod on Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:37 am


    Unfortunately, it seems that tonight, a Mi-28 crashed in Syria.
    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/04/12/Russian-helicopter-crashes-in-Syria-two-pilots-killed/8571460467666
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/04/12/this-is-the-advanced-russian-helicopter-that-just-crashed-in-syria/
    I don't know whether it is an accident, or this helicopter was downed by terrorists. If so by what ? SAM ? AAA ? If you have more informations please post.
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    Post  arpakola on Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:40 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    ultron wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian MoD: 250 Al-Nusra Front Terrorists Killed in Aleppo in Past Week

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160411/1037841000/nusra-front-aleppo.html

    It is a mistake on Russia's part to let Nusra breed in Idlib province. Nusra breeds about 50,000 new warriors per year in Idlib province. They would become the biggest national security threat to Russia.

    Every Nusra fell on the battlefield is replaced by 10 more. Time to bulldoze Idlib province.

    Even if 1 million of jihadist show up , Russia have all the tools to handle it.
    how many terrorist you think a bomb like this can kill ?  Smile

    Syrian Civil War: News #7 - Page 23 Nuke

    here the potential damage of just one nuke of 5 megaton. about 15km radius kill of every
    living thing.

    Syrian Civil War: News #7 - Page 23 +301-text-pfs-020

    from 10km to 13km of a nuclear bomb of 5megaton. it will collapse concrete and break every bone. is a fatal kill. from 15km to 17km ,third degree burns with 100% probability ,arms or legs will need to be amputated if people not killed instantly and blind too.

    10 bombs of those will be 150km radius. This will be enough to cover all northen Syria
    ,including Latakia ,IDlib ,Aleppo and Raqqa. how many soldiers you place in 150km area?
    I bet like 10 millions soldiers will fit nicely there.  enough to stop a full scale NATo + Jihadist invasion.  Cool

    Just relax a little ,dude. We cannot know for sure what is Russia trying to do. It is possible that Russia is allowing terrorist to move away from their safe bunkers and force them to fight in the open in positions that it will be hard for them to defend and even hold in the place. For sure whatever it is. it will be better if Russia manage to concentrate all the terrorist in one single place and then drops many dozens of 1 ton weight termobaric high super tnt bombs from Tu-160 planes.  and wipe totally a city the terrorist are grouped. Then all them wiped fast. But if you start fighting terrorist when they are very dispersed ,then you will not get many and they will retreat and go back behind civilians for cover.

    Russia have the Air superiority and those NATO manpads are not going to do anything to Russian planes. Learn something about Ukraine war ,how the Pro Donetsk fighters encircle 8,000 pro kiev soldiers and wiped/wounded most of them. The only thing that could threaten seriously RUssia is Turkey/israeli airforce invading Syria to bomb Syrian forces or even attack them ,but also backed by a many hundreds of modern tanks ,but that will be an open war. and it will not end well for those planes with S-400s in Syria. and kornets EM will wipe any NATO tank.

    About 50,000 warrior per year.. the more the better , Russia can farm them. Better to kill
    them in Syria and not in Russia. Because if NATO can get such high numbers of terrorist for Syria ,nothing stop them ,to do that in another place and lets say attack Kaliningrad or Kazakistan next to Russian borders.

    Aside that all those 50,000 jihadist needs food ,munitions and weapons ,it cost a lot of money ,
    Russia will be playing a war of attrition on Turkey ,Saudi and US that needs to finance their
    terror squads. just like they doing in Ukraine. in short Russia have all the tools to defeat the
    terrorist in just one day . even if their numbers were in the 1 million. so relax a little .the chaos in Syria ,until now Russia can handle it.  Russia however cannot show every weapon they have so later NATO can spy on it.  Russia specially can wipe out very easily the terrorist using chemical weapons too. Weapons that blinds terrorist or that put to sleep an entire city like Idlib with Gas. No one in tunnels will be safe from such kind of warfare. So regardless of the numbers ,the terrorist are not prepared to fight Russia if Russia really wants to hold a place. So weather is nukes or chemical weapons , or other crazy weapons Russia have everything to defeat them .As long their miltary base is not under threat and invaded Russia can continue in the offensive.
    the victory in Syria however have to be done on a political level too and not just military.
    Russia also cannot use all their technology and weapons in Syria unless is really needed ,So that later NATO cannot learn all the tools Russia have and later be prepared to better fight Russia.

    heck if Russia use nukes ,with just a dozen of free fall nukes of 1 megaton each,in less than 24 hours Syria recover 100% of its territory , Idlib fall ,Aleppo ,Raka, all. But the military victory alone is not enough , political and diplomatic too matters and public opinion. If i was Putin, i will try to get 100% of all the terrorist ,and not allow a single chechen to return to Syria . So allowing Turkey to send reinforcements to Idlib and Aleppo can be used to Russia advantage if
    they all wiped ,all other fronts will collapse for not having any one else to fight. They are many muslins extremist in the world to recruit but they will get tired of dying for nothing. If they notice they stand not a chance to win with Russia there. it will be even a bigger victory. because will dissuade any terrorist in the future to try to invade Russia ,knowing they have no chance to win.

    http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
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    Post  arpakola on Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:21 pm

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/amid-devastating-war-fragile-truce-syrians-vote-parliament/
    Amid devastating war and fragile truce, Syrians vote for their parliament

    Thousands of Syrians flocked today morning to polling stations across almost the entire war-torn country to vote in controversial parliamentary elections. More than 11300 candidates nationwide are competing for 250 seats in the Syrian Parliament for a 4-year tenure. Likewise, more than 7300 ballot boxes have been deployed in government-held areas across the country. In the eastern city of Deir ez-Zor, some 17 polling stations have been set up in the government-held districts of the city where civilians have been suffering a crippling blockade by ISIS for more than a year.
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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:31 pm

    nemrod wrote:
    Unfortunately, it seems that tonight, a Mi-28 crashed in Syria.
    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/04/12/Russian-helicopter-crashes-in-Syria-two-pilots-killed/8571460467666
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/04/12/this-is-the-advanced-russian-helicopter-that-just-crashed-in-syria/
    I don't know whether it is an accident, or this helicopter was downed by terrorists. If so by what ? SAM ? AAA ? If you have more informations please post.

    You are not only posting old news, but also the wrong thread. Please look at Russian in Syria thread for more info. As well, state department gave the answer long before your post - it crashed not due to arms fire.
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    Post  nemrod on Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:19 pm

    sepheronx wrote:

    You are not only posting old news, but also the wrong thread. Please look at Russian in Syria thread for more info. As well, state department gave the answer long before your post - it crashed not due to arms fire.
    Thx sepheronx
    U can delete my post.
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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:06 pm

    Sorry, not a mod anymore.

    Was just giving a heads up. According to a twitter post by Kuryer it was pilot error:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/RSS_40/status/720224111440629760
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    Post  Azi on Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:35 pm

    arpakola wrote:
    http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
    Great site! thumbsup

    Vann7 wrote:
    ultron wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian MoD: 250 Al-Nusra Front Terrorists Killed in Aleppo in Past Week

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160411/1037841000/nusra-front-aleppo.html

    It is a mistake on Russia's part to let Nusra breed in Idlib province. Nusra breeds about 50,000 new warriors per year in Idlib province. They would become the biggest national security threat to Russia.

    Every Nusra fell on the battlefield is replaced by 10 more. Time to bulldoze Idlib province.

    Even if 1 million of jihadist show up , Russia have all the tools to handle it.
    how many terrorist you think a bomb like this can kill ?  Smile

    Syrian Civil War: News #7 - Page 23 Nuke

    here the potential damage of just one nuke of 5 megaton. about 15km radius kill of every
    living thing.

    ...
    I know your post was more humorous, but no nonsense anymore...PLEASE!

    Most russian warheads are in class of 300 - 800 kt TNT. Only a few warheads are above 1 mt and a 5 mt warhead kills not everything in 15 km radius! Duoble explosion force means not double radius! From a point above 50 mt the explosions force vanish largely into space.

    The discussion about nuclear weapons is a bit pwnd The conflict will be held very traditional and conventional, no chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. Apart from jihadi scum and the use of chlorine, the conflict is and will be held conventional!
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    Post  Azi on Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:46 pm

    I found today several articles that if the ceasefire breaks CIA wants to arm the rebels with better weapons, against Assad and the RuAF. Apart from the bogus and false nature of us-politics, it should be clear to everyone that Russia is interested in the ceasefire, so that SAA can focus at Daesh first. The so called "Moderates" have enough manpads, atgm and so on, but my apprehension is that they will get some better stuff, like better artillery and tanks, which can be very dangerous for the SAA. So Russia is doing at moment very fine! Russia tries on several levels to decide the conflict for themselves and allies.

    The announced offensive on Aleppo is therefore uncertain! It would be better to kick Daeshs ass in the area of Aleppo first (al-Bab) and build a good defense in southwest Aleppo against the other jihadis.
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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:58 pm

    What a laugh. Send better weapons? They already sent the better systems excluding javelin which if they send, will end up in Russian hands.

    Tanks and artillery? You are aware the US is trying to downplay the whole thing, right? The media is in a frenzy and making it sound like US has more cards in hand than they actually have. US will send more to the terrorists but nothing game changing.
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    Post  arpakola on Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:42 pm

    Rebels flee across Turkish border as ISIS snatches more villages – Map update
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/rebels-flee-across-turkish-border-isis-snatches-villages-map-update/ | Al-Masdar News
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    seems al Nousra and FAS all pro Turkish are losing ground and Turkey will hve less and less excuses to intervene. Kurds now have a good oportunity to get AZAZ .. if this not a Turkish trap , that is
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:02 pm

    Seems rather than ISIS is very good at tactical level when compared to JAN and the Rats. Maybe they're having someone tell them something...
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:06 pm

    WTF is this news about Russian Jet downed in Raqqa and pilots taken alive?

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