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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  Zivo on Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:16 am

    Mindstorm wrote:

    Rpg type 7v wrote:Izrael invented era/nera in 70s too.
    Oh yes sure ....Razz 

    You should have said that in the '50s to Б. В. Войцеховский and В. Л. Истомин ,them would have had certainly a thing or two to say to you on the subject.......Laughing Laughing 


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    This isn't the first time Soviet theoretical military science has been proven to be way ahead of its time. Wink

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:40 am

    TR1 wrote:M60A2 was the space tank, looked amazing but left service pretty fast.

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  As Sa'iqa on Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:03 am

    Sparky Shocked

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:21 am

    As Sa'iqa wrote:Sparky Shocked
    yep! Cool 

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    Post  Stealthflanker on Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:19 pm

    I expect Aerogavin.. Twisted Evil 

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  TR1 on Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:28 pm

    According to same source who posted about 2A82 (see ground forces thread), the T-90AM with the new gun and ammo will be delivered in 2014-2015, as an "urgent solution" to god knows what. Some say the tank biathlon...

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  collegeboy16 on Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:19 am

    So this is confirmation there is going to be T-90AM then. however i do hope this 'T-90AM' is just T-90A upgraded with new gun, FCS, ERA from armata mbt. this T-90AM might turn out to be impressive tho it still is a stopgap so dont overdo it plox.
    aside, i wonder how much better new gun + new ammo stands up to 120 mm l/55 and dm53, to me the german approach to armor busting has much more potential than throwing massive hunks of DU at rel. slower speeds. with tungsten you could optimize it up to 2.5km/s, while DU only at 2.1km/s and you lose self-sharpening afaik.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:35 am

    DU involves exposing your crews to genotoxic materials, and actually firing them would require an extensive clean up... it simply is not worth the minor increase in performance over more expensive materials.


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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  medo on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:08 am

    TR1 wrote:According to same source who posted about 2A82 (see ground forces thread), the T-90AM with the new gun and ammo will be delivered in 2014-2015, as an "urgent solution" to god knows what. Some say the tank biathlon...

    With retiring T-80, they need new build tanks in the mean time Armata is ready for production and become operational.

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  Austin on Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:18 am

    India New Arjun Mk2 displayed at Republic Day Parade on Sunday....Note the ERA placement similar to T-90 and its K-5 ERA

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VF9-ixdKKvk/UuTsleXGqzI/AAAAAAAAVrI/Frocu4ugkzA/s1600/VIJY9268-783822.JPG

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    Post  TR1 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:25 am

    Placement sure is weird, big coverage on one side, nothing on the other.

    Not the Israeli sight, looks similar in general config to the Epocha site, I guess that is the future direction.

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  Regular on Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:45 pm

    Holly mantle! No disrespect to indians, but You should rather ditch this tank and start something new from scratch as this tank looks like dead end.

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:02 pm

    The main problems with the arjun are:
    -Its too heavy for most indian terrain

    -It has poor gunbarrel reliability(mainly cracks)

    -Its sights are in front of the turret effectively making a large weakspot(at least the mk.1)

    As far as I know the arjun was tried to be exported in peru and other places but was thoroughly rejected everywhere. Were the reasons political or technological?

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  collegeboy16 on Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:46 am

    Regular wrote:Holly mantle! No disrespect to indians, but You should rather ditch this tank and start something new from scratch as this tank looks like dead end.
    Haha the mantle covers a third of the turret from the front. Yeah, I def. agree, just throw this POS in the gutter and order more T-90MS. Seriously, the f*ck is this thing for?  dunno

    Edit: Also, the ERA thingy is weird, it just covers the loaders side. Any enemy would simply shift his aim slightly to the left and boom.
    Also, the rifled gun really grinds my gears. Have fun with slip rings if you are going to shoot any decent anti-armor round.
    Really, this thing has been a giant waste of indian taxpayers money, the tank makers obviously didnt learn much from the whole affair, unless you count sticking whatever foreign component inside a Leo 2a4 ripoff as experience.

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  Austin on Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:17 am

    Interview with Vyacheslav Halitov deputy. Director General of SPC "Uralvagonzavod" on special equipment



    Has some update on Armata



    Today and Tomorrow of Russian armored vehicles


    http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/arsenal/1244424-echo

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:51 am

    Arjun Mk2 Official Specs ( via Defexpo 2014 )

    http://i.imgur.com/GbORxM2.jpg

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  Zivo on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:59 am

    Austin wrote:Arjun Mk2 Official Specs ( via Defexpo 2014 )

    http://i.imgur.com/GbORxM2.jpg

    Run of the mill.  Neutral 

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  TR1 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:00 am

    68 tons!

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    Post  Zivo on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:13 am

    TR1 wrote:68 tons!

    I wonder how it fares compared to the other heavyweights?

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:43 am

    It appears from recent FORCE magazine update that Indian Army has purchased additional T-90.
    http://www.forceindia.net/BuyerCallstheShots.aspx

    So total T-90 fleet will be 1657 + 235 = 1892   ( likely the last 235 is based on T-90MS to be deployed at North East )


    Also at recent Defexpo the Russians have bought T-90MS and upgraded T-72


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    Armour
    The Indian Army’s Armoured Corps has also been affected by the slowdown in the economy that has impacted the modernisation drive to replace/upgrade its massive tank fleet. This means that armoured regiments will have to make do with their older tanks which suffer from night blindness, lack modern fire control systems and have underpowered power packs.

    The Indian Army will continue to field close to 3,000 upgraded T-72 and T-90 MBTs over the next two decades, with the T-90s serving till 2030 and beyond. Almost half of the 1,657 T-90 tanks planned have already been inducted as of last year. The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) also approved the manufacture of an additional 235 T-90S tanks worth almost Rs 6,000 crore last year. The Indian Army is now said to have only 800 T-90 tanks in service out of a planned total of 1,657 (plus 235 from the latest order).

    In August last year, Bharat Dynamic Limited (BDL), Hyderabad, signed a contract for supplying Invar Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (ATGM) to the Indian Army valued at Rs 3,000 crore. Deliveries are expected to be completed by 2018 and BDL has been manufacturing these missiles under technical collaboration with M/s Rosoboronexport of Russia. The T-90 is capable of firing the Invar which is a laser beam rider ATGM. It has a range of five km and is capable of destroying enemy tanks fitted with Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA) protection. There are also plans for the license manufacture and delivery of advanced 3UBK20 (Mango) tank ammunition. All 16,000 rounds from a 2010 order for Fin Stabilized Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) ammunition would have been delivered by now.

    The shortage of ammunition for the T-72 and T-90 tanks has been an area of concern for quite a while now as indigenous efforts to produce state-of-the-art ammunition have not been very successful. The ageing T-72 tanks have experienced bursting tank barrels, with over 200 such cases having been reported last year according to reports in the media. Reports now suggest that the T-72s will have their main gun barrels replaced with that of the T-90 and approximately 800 T-90 barrels are likely to be procured in the near future. Facilities for overhaul of Tank T-72 were established in 1994 at HVF Avadi and in order to enhance the annual overhaul capacity, parallel facilities for overhaul were also created at 505 Army Base Workshop in 2005.

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:50 am

    TR1 wrote:68 tons!
     
    Yes but thats with Track Width Mine Plough and ERA etc

    How much does T-90A and T-90MS weight with Mine Plough ?

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    Post  TR1 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:52 am

    Hope they get all the new T-90MS goodies...with such a big fleet it is worth it.

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    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:57 am

    TR1 wrote:Hope they get all the new T-90MS goodies...with such a big fleet it is worth it.

    Well the case for T-90 Upgrade is already made by DGMF officially check the list

    http://www.spslandforces.com/interviews/?id=14&h=Lt-General-D.S.-Siddhu,-Director-General,-Mechanised-Forces,-Indian-Army

    SP’s: It seems that the T-90 will be our MBT for the next decade or so. Have any major modifications been planned in view of the changing battlefield environment? How are we catering for the digitisation of the battlefield in the future?


    DGMF: As the mainstay of the armoured fleet, the T-90 Tank is slated to receive state-of-the-art upgrades to maintain its dominance on any future battlefield. These modernisation schemes include an active protection system, improved Commander’s thermal imaging sights providing true ‘hunter-killer’ capability, an advanced muzzle reference system for retention of zeroing both by day and night and necessary software upgrades to optimise the capabilities of the fire control system. In addition to a modernised digital fire detection and suppression system, the tank will also be fitted with an environmental control system to ensure longevity of sensitive opto-electronic sub-systems. A project for fitment of an auxiliary power unit to enhance ‘silent watch’ capability and conserve engine life is also under way. As regards digitisation of the future battlefield, we plan to fit the digital control harness. In addition, the Army is considering introduction of a software defined radio (SDR) which will ensure real time data, voice and image transfer. The SDR hierarchy will also support the battlefield management system (BMS) being developed indigenously.

    For T-72


    Tank T-72 comprises the majority of our tank fleet today. These are of 1972 vintage and need to be modernised to enhance their mission reliability. With this in view, we are in the process of replacing the existing engine with a more powerful engine, incorporating an auxiliary power unit, fitting a thermal imaging fire control system for the gunner with suitable night enablement for the driver and commander also. Other upgrades include the digital control harness and modernisation of the fire suppression system. To provide necessary realism to training; simulators for drivers, gunners and an integrated crew simulator for the crew are in various stages of introduction.

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  collegeboy16 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:44 pm

    read about what APS they are gonna fit in their T-90S- LEDS-150. IMO Arena-E would be far better since it is russian  Twisted Evil .
    No but seriously, why bother with yet another supplier.
    Also any news about india's fmbt?

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    Re: First photos of T-95 and T-90AM

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:26 pm

    Any one knows how much T-90 weighs with mine plough ?

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