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    Post  George1 Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:31 pm


    Russian militaries want to create special commando force

    December 3, 2012 Alexei Mikhailov, Izvestia

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    The Joint Chiefs and the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) have asked Russian Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu to quickly deal with the question of the necessity of creating a Special Operations Command (KSO) in Russia. A highly placed source in the Defense Ministry told Izvestia that the developers of the project for this command are in the process of obtaining a meeting with Shoigu.

    “In October of this year, the project was presented by representatives of the Joint [Chiefs of] Staff and GRU to then Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov for his consideration,” the source said, “but he rejected it, without explanation, as ‘not expedient.’”
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    According to the project, the KSO will consist of the following: a Defense Ministry special-purpose center called Senezh, which will answer directly to the minister; a SWAT team from one of the military districts; a helicopter squadron from the Center for Deployment and Retraining of Military Pilots (TsBP) at the Torzhok Air Base; and a squadron of transport Il-76s from the Migalovo airfield near Tver.

    “The task of creating such a center was assigned back in 2008,” the source told Izvestia.

    The KSO will be charged with carrying out emergency missions, such as freeing hostages on enemy territory, evacuating citizens from local conflict zones, and liquidating band formations. In a large-scale war, these commandos would be the ones to take out the enemy leadership, strategic sites, communication hubs, launch facilities for nuclear missiles, etc.

    In developing the structure of this command, the Joint Chiefs were guided by the experience of France, Great Britain and Germany; in creating certain tactical elements, they utilized the experience of the United States. These missions will be carried out mainly by the Senezh unit, while the SWAT and aviation teams will focus on auxiliary functions involving fire cover, transport and the landing of airborne troops.

    According to the Defense Ministry source, the KSO already exists in essence. At Torzhok, helicopter pilots have spent four years jointly training with Senezh for all aspects of combat. The transport planes have spent roughly as many years flying SWAT teams to missions.

    “The army SWAT team is the one remaining question mark. It will be either a team from Tambov or one of two teams from the Southern Military District. The Tambov team is closer, but the ‘southerners’ have more combat experience. They are all fully staffed, they have subunits for chemical defense, combat engineers, communications, the rear,” said the source.

    “Bringing all these units together in a unified center will make for better coordinated actions and better priorities in combat training. Today, pilots who have flown with Senezh of their own free will are not assigned to other missions. When we have a unified command, crews will focus on SWAT teams as a matter of course,” the Defense Ministry source said.

    He noted that paratroopers support the main unit in Germany and France, while Great Britain has a Special Forces Support Group. Helicopter and transport squadrons constantly train and fight together with ground units, so as to work out their combat coordination down to the last detail.

    Although the Joint Chiefs were displeased by Serdyukov’s rejection of this project, the SWAT team itself agreed with the former minister and said that the KSO should include all army SWAT teams, rather than separate units and subunits.

    “In addition to Senezh, we have seven land SWAT teams, four reconnaissance sea teams, special VDV regiments, psychological operations forces, and other special units. What should we do with them? Some will be left under the general military command, some will not. In Great Britain and France, the KSO includes all special-purpose units,” the source said.

    Anatoly Matveichuk, who holds a doctorate in military sciences, supports the intentions of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    “Commandos carry out not only military but also political and economic missions. This should be an entirely independent structure. To make all available special units subordinate to this structure is not necessary; they can be introduced gradually, as they gain experience,” said Matveichuk.

    In his opinion, the KSO should answer directly to the supreme commander-in-chief, not to the minister of defense or the chiefs of staff.

    http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/12/03/russian_militaries_want_to_create_special_commando_force_20635.html


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    Post  collegeboy16 Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:22 am

    George1 wrote:[b]
    http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/12/03/russian_militaries_want_to_create_special_commando_force_20635.html
    Hmm. the Russian equivalent to Delta Force? Sounds awesome, I look forward to the time when I play as them in a computer game, or better yet meet one, if ever there would be one.
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:43 pm

    Yes although i thought that "Alpha" group was the Russian equivalent to Delta Force
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:12 pm

    And what are the SWAT army teams??
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    Post  Mr.Kalishnikov47 Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:45 pm

    George1 wrote:Yes although i thought that "Alpha" group was the Russian equivalent to Delta Force

    Their roles are very similar, yes.

    And what are the SWAT army teams??

    GRU I'd assume.

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    Post  Mr.Kalishnikov47 Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:11 am

    If I had to make a guess I'd say the author of the article made a mistake.


    Russian intelligence officers seek speedy creation of new special ops center

    A group of leading military officers has asked the newly appointed Defense Minister to set up a Special Operations Command – a body uniting the commando teams and support services – that would match the modern day military and civilian challenges.

    According to the proposal, the new command will unite the Senezh special operations center belonging to the Defense Ministry that reports personally to the minister, with a Spetsnaz brigade, a helicopter squadron of the Air Force training center in Torzhok, and a squadron of the Il-76 transport aircraft from the Migalovo air force base. A source in the Defense Ministry told the Izvestia daily that the plan to reform Russia’s special operations dates back to 2008. They were submitted to the recently dismissed former minister Anatoliy Serdyukov who rejected them without offering any explanation.

    The plan will now be presented to the new Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu hoping that he will reverse his predecessor’s decision. Izvestia’s source stressed that the plan was made on the basis of foreign experience, namely France, UK and Germany and in some tactical elements the US experience was also used.

    When founded, the Special Operations Command will take on various tasks like hostage rescue in enemy territory, evacuation of civilians from war zones, and operations against criminal groups. In case of a full scale war, commandos will destroy the enemy’s strategic weapons and command, disrupt communications and logistics and perform other duties.

    Authors of the plan claim the creation of the new body has practically already happened as the helicopter squadron from Torzhok and the aircraft unit from Tver have been taking part Senezh center exercises for four years. The only thing needed now is to choose the Spetsnaz brigade from two options – either the central Russian Tambov Unit or one of the experienced brigades of the Southern Military District.

    The initiative, however, has opponents among the Special Forces’ officers who say that the command must oversee all military Spetsnaz units, not the selected ones. The critics also pointed at foreign countries saying that in France or Britain all Special Forces in the military report to a single HQ.

    http://rt.com/politics/russian-intelligence-spec-ops-789/

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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:19 am

    As Kalashnikov points out, this is not a creation of a military special forces units. The military and the government have a wide range of very good units including land and naval Spetsnaz units for various organisations, the MVD or interior ministry has its own special forces, as do the FSB. Alpha and Vympel spring to mind in the case of the latter, but there are also VDV and naval infantry and a range of other more secret units.

    This article is not talking about creating a new force as such as much as it is talking about a new command and structure for existing forces to allow them to operate more effectively outside of Russia.

    Of course we have already seen that in Eastern Europe and the invasion of Afghanistan, and of course in Kosovo and more recently with anti piracy missions.

    The new planned structure would give them organic transport and command and control to allow faster reactions and better mobility and flexibility
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    Post  George1 Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:14 am

    new SSO (Special Operations unit)

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    Post  George1 Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:28 am

    According to the project, the KSO will consist of the following:
    a Defense Ministry special-purpose center called Senezh,
    a SWAT team from one of the military districts;
    a helicopter squadron from the Center for Deployment and Retraining of Military Pilots (TsBP) at the Torzhok Air Base;
    and a squadron of transport Il-76s from the Migalovo airfield near Tver.

    I wonder what will be the role of SWAT team, just intelligence support like Special Recon Regiment in SAS British special forces? or cover fire and reconnaissance like Rangers to Delta Force in US special forces?
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    Post  Eagle9294 Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:26 pm

    George1 wrote:new SSO (Special Operations unit)


    Who in the West are they similar to? Thanks. It appears similar to SOCOM.
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    Post  franco Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:38 pm

    Eagle9294 wrote:
    George1 wrote:new SSO (Special Operations unit)


    Who in the West are they similar to? Thanks. It appears similar to SOCOM.

    More like the Delta Force.
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    Post  Eagle9294 Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:49 pm

    franco wrote:
    Eagle9294 wrote:
    George1 wrote:new SSO (Special Operations unit)


    Who in the West are they similar to? Thanks. It appears similar to SOCOM.

    More like the Delta Force.

    It looks like they have some nice gear. Thanks.
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    Post  George1 Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:20 pm

    Russian Special Operations Forces in Syria

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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:20 pm

    SSO Soldiers in Palmyra

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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:35 am

    Hi-res shot of #Russia|n SSO in Palmyra, #Syria. This is probably from early March 2017.

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    Post  T-47 Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:03 pm

    Can't see the pictures George
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    Post  George1 Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:25 pm

    i will put the links also, its from russiandefence.com site
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    Post  George1 Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:26 pm

    One more image of the Russian SSO officer on the front line near El-Qaryatain in #Syria. Behind him is a Shia militia man (?)

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    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/916277933542649856
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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:26 pm

    Russian SSO officer in #Syira armed with Steyr SSG 08 and holstered Yarygin (6P35) sidearm, standing next to a tripod mounted Hensoldt (ex-Zeiss) x20-60 spotting scope. Note helmet mounted GoPro HERO5 and Petzl Strix w/ visible & IR light modes.

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    Post  George1 Mon May 28, 2018 2:59 am

    Russian SSO, Naval Detachment
    561st Center of Special Operations, Sevastopol, Crimea

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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:25 am

    George1 wrote:Russian SSO, Naval Detachment
    561st Center of Special Operations, Sevastopol, Crimea

    Video from 2018 showing one of their exercises. Use of aerostat and UGV shown

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:04 am

    Very clever use of a tethered aerostat as essentially being a UAV with unlimited hover performance...

    Obviously during a night raid it would be harder to spot the divers in the water... though I think new short wave IIR sensors could probably do it... it can see through glass so it should be able to see through water too...

    And I would expect underwater sensors around such a base anyway...

    Interesting... McGyver would never get in these days... hahahaha.
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    Post  franco Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:03 pm

    GarryB wrote:Very clever use of a tethered aerostat as essentially being a UAV with unlimited hover performance...

    Obviously during a night raid it would be harder to spot the divers in the water... though I think new short wave IIR sensors could probably do it... it can see through glass so it should be able to see through water too...

    And I would expect underwater sensors around such a base anyway...

    Interesting... McGyver would never get in these days... hahahaha.

    Actually McGyver had such an episode a couple of years back. Sent in two of his team who spoke Russian and they posed as Russian Army officers and the dastardly Ruskies were thwarted. cheers
    The fact that both of these team members were black was irrelevant to Hollywood. Suspect

    The last time I made the mistake of watching that show. attack
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    Post  franco Wed May 05, 2021 9:06 pm

    Don't remember hearing of that Viking MRAP before? Anybody have anything?

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