Werewolf wrote:Militarov wrote:par far wrote:Militarov wrote:par far wrote:
Whenever I see pictures of the Russian military training, they are most of the time using the SVD Sniper, why don't they use the Orsis or Lobavev or other sniper rifles?
Because those are not frontline sniper rifles. They cost like dozen SVDs, and are overkill for what squad dedicated marksman would use it for. Small amount of those were seen in hands of MVD and FSB but thats all, they are more sporting rifles than for military use.
Hi there Militarov, by saying this, you are saying that the Russian Armed Forces are cheap(which they are not) and that Russia cannot make long range snipers for the military, just sporting rifles.
You are basically saying that the west is better than Russia, when it comes to making long range sniper rifles(which I don't think is true).
I stay completely behind this statement of mine. SVD is fine squad dedicated marksman rifle, one of its qualities is fact its cheap. Infantry squad dedicated marksman rifles are in majority of the armies simply heavy barrel guns based on assault or battle rifles.
Germany - HK417/MR308 A3 and G3SG/1 (latter one is becoming rare)
USA - SDM-R and M21/M25
Serbia - M76 and M91
China - QBU-88 and Type 79 (Basically SVD but getting phased out)
Japan - Howa Type 64
UK - L129A1
Turkey - MSG90 and SR-25 (some SVDs too)
Some countries like Canada and France prefer to issue on squad lvl bolt action sniper rifles but is in my opinion huge waste of money especially on sizeable armies, even worse if conscript based.
Also Lobaev rifles will never enter military service, at least not existing models, thes are single shot, custom-built bolt-action sniper rifles for fun, target practice and enthousiasts, they have no place in mud. Some were as i said above seen in hands of FSB/MVD units but i doubt more than few dozen were ever obtained.
Long range anti-material rifles that Russians do actually use are SVN-98, KSVK and OSV-96.
Please stop using invented shitty US created terms. There is no such thing as a battle rifle nor a marksman rifle. it is SNIPERSKAJA VINTOVKA DRAGUNOVA it is a sniper rifle, period.
Battle rifle is at this moment kinda required term to separate assault rifles from full-power rifle cartridge weapons of same form. Exactly same term "Borbena puška" and "Jurišna puška" just in Serbian i used during my non-CO school, as it was used in recently printed literature we used (post 1995.), so term became widely accepted. M76 and M91 today in service here are dubbed as "Водни снајпер" which literally means "Squad sniper", which SVD and M76 literally are.
Military literature also makes difference between squad level marksman and dedicated sniper as they for start do not fall under same units, their weapons are in most cases not the same and ranges they are supposed (at least in theory) to cover are also different.
Its also fact that in Serbia we atm do not have real intermediate sniper in widespread service (except Special Brigade), so we actually use Black Arrow .50 on company lvl.