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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  GarryB on Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:05 am

    Last report I heard they were going to start introducing it in October this year.

    ie not field tests, but operational deployment.

    I would suspect certain units who were field testing it are likely using it now as standard.


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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Mike E on Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:36 am

    GarryB wrote:Last report I heard they were going to start introducing it in October this year.

    ie not field tests, but operational deployment.

    I would suspect certain units who were field testing it are likely using it now as standard.
    Great to hear! cheers 

    Even better...

    Isn't it funny that Russian troops will have Ratnik before many US troops will have their equivalent? - People see the US as a leader in that kind of thing... Anyway, do you know what kind of troops will be equipped with Ratnik or no? (VDV or what areas etc)
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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:55 am

    Russia to Start Field Tests of ‘Future Soldier’ Gear in December

    MOSCOW, October 1 (RIA Novosti) - Field testing of cutting-edge combat gear for Russian soldiers will begin in December, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Land Force, Col. Gen. Oleg Salyukov, said Wednesday.

    “The Ratnik combat kit is currently undergoing the final stage of state trials. In December, field tests will begin in units of the Ground Forces, the Airborne Forces and the Marine Infantry of the Navy,” he said.

    The Ratnik (Warrior) set is comprised of more than 40 components, including firearms, body armor and optical, communication and navigation devices, as well as life support and power supply systems.

    Other nations have similar futuristic combat kits, including the US Land Warrior, Germany's IdZ, Britain's FIST, Spain's ComFut, Switzerland’s IMESS and France's FELIN.

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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  partizan on Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:33 am

    What is the price of one set?
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:25 am

    $55.26 without rifle and ammunition.


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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  NationalRus on Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:56 am

    lol so the overblown AK-12 has been scraped lol1

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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  partizan on Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:05 am

    GarryB wrote:$55.26 without rifle and ammunition.
    Am I missing something? Only 55 dollars? Anyway, thanks.

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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Asf on Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:11 am

    55$? New "VKBO" field uniform costs more...
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    Post  NationalRus on Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:31 am

    the whole set would be close to 15.000$ (im guessing to lazy too look up)

    a military bodyarmour already costs 2.000$ + 400$ for helmet + military nightvision another 4.000$+ thats already 6k+ for the basic stuff, and communication equipment etc. comes too....

    so ~15.000-25.000$

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    Post  Asf on Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:00 pm

    click

    - 'Ratnik' contract is signed.
    - It will take three years to complete it.
    - First 'ratniks' will be shipped in this year.
    - There will be shown an export version of 'Ratnik' in 2015 in Abu-Dhabi
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    Post  Viktor on Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:10 pm

    Excellent ... I guess Ratnik kit tests passed on successfully ... Very Happy

    Another major job done russia

    Signed a three-year contract for the supply of military equipment "Warrior"

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    Post  Asf on Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:49 am


    military equipment "Warrior"

     'Man-at-Arms' would be a more correct translation of 'Ratnik'  Very Happy

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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Vann7 on Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:20 am



    There is report of a new Ratnik armor... a second generation one.. whats is different now?
    Are there pictures of Ratnik2?

    Also what happened to the AK-12? Did the army dropped it and will go for another? which one?
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    'Ratnik' contract is signed.

    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:36 am

    Nice.

    I am sure there will be problems and parts of the system that don't work properly, but it is a huge step in the right direction and hopefully things will be improved over time.

    I read somewhere that the early Ratnik was 36kgs and that the one being issued is 24kgs so that is a huge improvement on its own.


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    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:56 pm

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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:39 am

    Interesting... the title suggests that the system will start to be adopted in 2015, but the article says it will start now and therefore be finished by the end of next year (2015)... is that possible?

    Or is it a translation error?

    Or am I interpreting it wrong?

    Any Russian speaker seen the original Russian language version?


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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:06 am

    I think it means it will start to come into service in last quartal of 2015 and not be finished in 2015.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:13 am

    That is what I thought but it says:

    The next generation Ratnik military gear will be adopted into service by the Russian Army by the end of 2015,

    In other words it will be in service by the end of 2015 which I first interpreted as meaning it will start entering service at the end of 2015, but then it says:

    "The first delivery of the Ratnik war gear is expected this year and it will be instantly adopted into service," Semizorov announced.

    So it will enter service this year and will be "in service" by the end of 2015.

    I take that to mean it starts entering service now and will be widely deployed by the end of 2015.



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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:30 pm

    Reconaisance units have already begun to receive the Ratnik gear according to this

    military intelligence officers began to receive modern combat gear "Ratnik"

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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Asf on Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:36 pm

    Seriously:




    There are vague rumors of some work toward exoskeleton kept in secret
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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  George1 on Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:35 pm

    Asf wrote:
     I would unlock massive possibilities for infantry equipment(imagine exoskeleton equipped troops armed with 14,5 mm assault rifles

    Personally I'd vote for bolters  Very Happy They are small arms which fire rocket-propelled HE shells with AP core and delay fuse to explode in the body of a target! Sounds really brutal to me!


    is this soviet power rangers??? Smile))
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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:35 pm

    on mp.net, the guy with the black cat for an avatar posted about a scope that was kinda similar but cheaper too (it was a computerized scope). Looked very impressive. I will try to find it.
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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  GarryB on Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:43 am

    Not being able to speak a word of Russian... just looking at the photos and pictures... I suspect the sight uses a QWIP based chip sensor to detect visible and IR light and to combine the detected wavelengths and use a small computer to process the images so in the IR a human would stand out because they are hotter than the back ground. This makes a distinct target that the computer can highlight as a target. With the use of a laser rangefinder and humidity and wind sensors (also laser based) the computer can calculate in real time the impact point of the bullet. The computer... if connected to the firing system can be used like the gun on the MiG-29... basically the laser range finder and ballistic computer calculates the firing solution and the pilot/rifleman pulls the trigger but the computer only fires the gun when the target is centred in the crosshairs/impact point.

    In other words you point the gun at a person and pull the trigger and the gun will fire when it is most likely to score a hit.

    On the MiG-29 the gun would fire only about 5-7 rounds and the targets were being destroyed.

    The developer had said if he had known the system was going to be that accurate he would have gone with 75 rounds ammo instead of 150 rounds.

    The western equivalent of the above is described here:

    http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/tracking_point-e.html

    I remember first seeing the idea on a cool UK programme from the 1970s called "The Professionals" but it was only an M16 with a laser dot sight and a scope.


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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:39 pm

    Russia’s Defense Ministry Preparing to Announce Decision on Adopting “Ratnik” Suit

    Interagency working group on evaluation of “equipment of the future” “Ratnik” on Tuesday, December 23 will summarize the work, the board member of the Military-Industrial Commission (MIC) Oleg Martianov told.

    “It is expected that tomorrow (December 23), the Ministry of Defense will announce its decision on adopting “Ratnik” and its constituent elements,” O.Martyanov said on Monday.

    According to him, “tomorrow we will have a meeting of the interdepartmental working group of the laboratory concerning the equipment.”

    We will summarize the results of work on “Ratnik”. Tomorrow, we expect to hear a full report on this subject of the Ministry of Defense. We hope to hear from the military, what they decided concerning “Ratnik”, O.Martyanov said.

    The lead developer of equipment “Ratnik” is JSC “Central Research Institute of Precision Engineering” (TSNIITOCHMASH, Klimovsk, Moscow region). The composition of equipment “Ratnik” includes systems of lesions, protection, life support, energy, communications and data transmission.

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