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    Ratnik combat gear

    Post  alexgiorev3 on Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:38 pm



    The ratnik equipment is no news. However my question is is this equipment for the whole infantry or do only special units use it.
    And can you post pictures or videos of russian private soldier equipment.
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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:32 am

    It is intended for every soldier, but initially it will be used by special forces no doubt to get the kinks out of it.

    There are different suit sets for different roles within the military and it looks rather interesting.

    Here is an old article posted previously by Austin...

    http://www.interarms.ru/arhiv/n6_2010/russian_infantry_combat_system_development_programs/



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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Viktor on Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:30 pm

    Nice presentation. 


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    Russian Special Forces to Test New Thermal Scopes

    Post  IshayJ on Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:11 pm

    The Russian Defense Ministry will start official tests of a new thermal vision scope as part of Russia’s futuristic combat kit later this month, the system’s developer said.

    8876418_sThere are currently 160 prototype scopes at an army special forces (spetsnaz) facility near Moscow, said Oleg Yakovlev, advisor to the general director of the Tsiklon scientific research institute.

    According to Ria Novosti the scope, which can spot a target at a distance of 800-1,200 meters, is an essential component of the much touted cutting-edge Ratnik (Warrior) set and will cost around 1 million rubles ($30,000) per unit, he said. Tests could last from several months to a year and a half, he added. “We hope the final state tests will be a success and Ratnik’s thermal imaging system will be adopted in 2014,” Yakovlev said. Russian defense officials previously said Ratnik had not been put into service yet due to delays in the fine-tuning of the new set’s light weapons.

    The Ratnik kit is comprised of more than 40 components, including firearms, body armor and optical, communication and navigation devices, as well as life support and power supply systems.

    It can be used by regular infantry, rocket launcher operators, machine gunners, drivers and scouts.

    http://i-hls.com/2013/10/russian-special-forces-to-test-new-thermal-scopes/

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:22 am

    The VDV tested these scopes in 2010 I think and they were returned for changes.

    They should be excellent.


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    Post  Viktor on Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:18 pm

    40 new Ratnik (for Artic) sets delivered for testing


    FSB received a set of forms "Arctic Warrior" to keep warm at 60 degrees of frost

    Now equipped with a new form of the northern Russian military frontier "Nagurskoe" located on Franz Josef Land. There delivered 40 sets of "Arctic Warrior" in white camouflage.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:46 am

    Russia to adopt new future soldier gear in "summer".

    http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140221/187724456/Russia-to-Adopt-Future-Soldier-Gear-in-Summer.html

    MOSCOW, February 21 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian military will adopt domestically designed “future soldier” gear this summer, the Defense Ministry said Thursday.

    The adoption of the Ratnik gear into service has been repeatedly delayed due to uncertainty over the choice of small arms component, which is likely to include the new Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle. The equipment is currently in the final stages of field testing by Russian paratroopers.

    Ratnik comprises about 50 components, including firearms, body armor and optical, communication and navigation devices, as well as life support and power supply systems.

    The equipment can be used by regular infantry, paratroopers, rocket launcher operators, machine gunners, drivers and scouts.

    So I suspect that the final field testing being done by paratroopers must include AK12s because they were delaying the entry of the equipment till the AK12 was ready.

    Also it seemed they wanted to wait for the multi calibre AK12SN models so it would be interesting to keep our eyes out for photos from VDV training and testing over the next few months...


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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Flyboy77 on Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:42 pm

    Some new infantry equipment being soon

    Pics: http://rg.ru/2014/03/14/soveshanie-site.html


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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Zivo on Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:21 pm



    Ak-74 bullpup conversion?

    Judging by the parts, it looks like another Zenith modification. This company has some crazy gunsmiths.

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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Cpt Caz on Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:28 am

    So I was reading this article about the Ratnik Future Soldier System: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_19/...e-future-1851/

    And while reading it I came across this:

    "We have to choose between the new Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle and the AEK-971 assault rifle of the Kovrov Mechanical Plant. The problem now is that the rifle should be offered in different modifications, namely for mechanized infantry, for tank crews, paratroopers and task forces. The rifle also needs a set of sights to it, to fire at daytime and at night".

    The expert council of the Military Industrial Commission will have the final say. The council is due to meet in May.

    So which one would you guys prefer to see adopted? AEK or AK-12?  Smile 

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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:00 pm

    Cpt Caz wrote:So I was reading this article about the Ratnik Future Soldier System: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_19/...e-future-1851/

    And while reading it I came across this:

    "We have to choose between the new Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle and the AEK-971 assault rifle of the Kovrov Mechanical Plant. The problem now is that the rifle should be offered in different modifications, namely for mechanized infantry, for tank crews, paratroopers and task forces. The rifle also needs a set of sights to it, to fire at daytime and at night".

    The expert council of the Military Industrial Commission will have the final say. The council is due to meet in May.

    So which one would you guys prefer to see adopted? AEK or AK-12?  Smile 

    Actually both, for the average soldier the more simple AK-12 and the specialized units which are more likey to face urban warfare with AEK-973 (7.62x39mm).

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    Post  Zivo on Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:51 pm

    I agree with Werewolf for the same reasons.

    However, I might lean more towards the AEK if I actually had the opportunity to handle it. I'm very interested in the details and the overall quality/finish of the weapon.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:06 am

    It would not hurt to integrate both weapons, but I suspect the multi calibre AK12SN might have an advantage with SMG, carbine, rifle, and LMG weapons shown already.

    I think the AK12 has better ergonomics than the AEKs we have seen, though to be fair we have not seen many AEK models in recent versions.


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    Re: Ratnik combat gear

    Post  Cpt Caz on Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:39 pm

    Interesting to hear some of your opinions, thanks.



    Not entirely on-topic but probably the best place to post this. Check out the scopes on those rifles. Thermals?

    Btw, guys in the photo are members of the security forces actively serving in the North Caucasus.

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    Ratnik combat gear

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:10 am

    "Warrior" (aka Ratnik) to inform physicians about injury
    Special sensors equipped soldiers will transmit information military medics
    "Warrior" inform physicians about injury




    In Russia, the final stage of military equipment gosispytany "Warrior" . To develop a new generation of equipment registration system physiological state fighters. Special sensors providing information to military doctors.

    Over the next two years, the St. Petersburg Military Medical Academy, Kirov (VMA) will modernize the experimental base, write  "Izvestia" . Goal - the development of a monitoring system of military life and "determination of physiological parameters to assess the severity of the affected states on the site of injury."

    The creators of "Warrior" (Central Research Institute of Precision Engineering of the State Corporation "Rosteh") confirmed the "Izvestia" that development to monitor the status of the organism is already underway. After adopting a "Warrior" in the next version will include equipment monitoring pulse.

    Upgraded "Warrior" will include wearable sensors that every minute will remove parameters heart rate, respiratory rate, blood oxygen saturation indicators, microvascular blood supply. Electronics equipment will store and analyze these figures, the deviation from the norm complex will give an alarm in the medical service. This will draw on already developed system of intelligence, control and communication "Sagittarius". All settings are automatically stored on the flash drive for record keeping.

    Soldiers medical mouth will have indicators showing the status of the victims. Depending on the injured soldier is invited to assess the state of the indices from 0 to 5. Medrota based on the data obtained will be to prioritize the evacuation of the wounded and the coordinates to identify possible ways to approach them.



    Outfit "Warrior" includes armor protection, navigation GLONASS-GPS, control system "Sagittarius", the communicator, with automatic night vision and thermal. Helmet this equipment is able to withstand getting pistol bullet from a distance of 10 m, and is equipped with a thermal video module for sniping. In "Warrior" also includes food, water filters, medical supplies, tent and sleeping bag. Weight full equipment up to 20 kg.

    "Warrior" was first introduced in 2011, the summer of 2014 equipment is planned to adopt. In this year's state defense order planned supply tens of thousands of sets of combat equipment for ground troops, airborne troops and marines Navy.

    Soldier equipment "Warrior" produced at the enterprise "TSNIITOCHMASH" included in Rosteh. The company was created in 1944. The main activities of the organization - development and manufacture of small arms and ammunition, military equipment, artillery systems, optoelectronic devices, sporting and hunting ammunition, sealed containers for transport and storage, simulators firearms.

    http://rostec.ru/news/4513103

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    Post  Flanky on Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:26 pm

    Either thermals or night visions.

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    Post  medo on Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:40 pm

    Most probably thermals. You have to keep covered the main lens of II night vision device.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:45 am

    For the one on the left see post 3 in this thread.... Shahine or something.


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    Post  Regular on Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:12 am

    GarryB wrote:It would not hurt to integrate both weapons, but I suspect the multi calibre AK12SN might have an advantage with SMG, carbine, rifle, and LMG weapons shown already.

    I think the AK12 has better ergonomics than the AEKs we have seen, though to be fair we have not seen many AEK models in recent versions.
    AEK ergonomics were greatly improved

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:26 am

    They look german...

    Besides I have read that the balanced recoil mechanism can be tricky and needs care and attention for it to work properly... which doesn't sound soldier proof to me...

    The AK12SN family of weapons sounds more mature and safer in terms of production and use but I am sure selected units could use more complicated rifles if the result is worth it.


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    Post  Regular on Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:02 pm

    It does have HK MP5 look. Why reinvent the wheel? Russian special forces have used HK MP5 and probably they liked thing or two. It looks more Kalashnikov than anything else. Smile
    Weapon maintenance is everyday chore in Russian army. It would be problem in some third world country like Ukraine. I would think Russian soldiers can be trusted sophisticated equipment like electro optical sights or even weapons that require pristine care, like long range sniper rifles. Culture of weapon handling is high as in any modern army.
    I agree that AK-12SN would be optimal rifle for army, but some units could receive AEK rifles along with other specialised weapons, it won't be logistical nightmare. I assume it will be in production in small numbers. Think of Vintorez or similar weapons

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:04 am

    Weapon maintenance is everyday chore in Russian army. It would be problem in some third world country like Ukraine. I would think Russian soldiers can be trusted sophisticated equipment like electro optical sights or even weapons that require pristine care, like long range sniper rifles. Culture of weapon handling is high as in any modern army.

    Don't get me wrong... I am sure no matter how complicated it was they would develop sound training to make sure there were no issues.

    What I wonder about is if the complication is worth the result.

    Multiple hits increase kill probability and firing short bursts with improvements in mechanism design in the AK12 to reduce mass movement and improve stability could result in comparable performance without the complication of gears and balanced recoil mechanisms.

    I agree that AK-12SN would be optimal rifle for army, but some units could receive AEK rifles along with other specialised weapons, it won't be logistical nightmare. I assume it will be in production in small numbers. Think of Vintorez or similar weapons

    I totally agree, though I suspect the AK12SN might become a standard military weapon with the ADS used by VDV and naval infantry, while paramilitary forces might get different weapons like these new bullpups that have been revealed...



    In terms of Army weapons the AK12SN will likely include Vintorez type weapons and PKP and RPK-74 and AK-74 and AKS-74U and Vityaz-SN type weapons.


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    Post  Mindstorm on Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:31 pm


    http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/armed_forces/novyy_rossiyskiy_komplekt_ekipirovki_voennosluzhashchego_smozhet_zashchitit_ot_lyubogo_obraztsa_indi/

    Ballistic protection of the new generation of infantry set "Ратника" is impenetrable to today small caliber weapons and mass weight of the entire set (with maximum protection offered) surpass any foreign analogue.

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    Post  Viktor on Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:05 pm

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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:51 pm

    Rumor still stands that AEK 971M won the competition for Ratnik. Will more than likely become main assault rifle of Russian armed forces.

    I am looking forward to the pics.

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