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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:10 am

    Dima wrote:

    Will that give us an idea of how many Russian servicemen/women were deployed in Syria and how many more they intend to deploy?

    Rotation ^^

    Remember that Russia is not only helping Syria in their war, but is also training their
    military too.  So every 2 or 3 months Russia could be rotating their personnel. I saw a video
    of pilots who returned to Russia way beyond the so called cease of fire. It makes sense
    that Russia will rotate its military in Syria to make sure as much as possible military gets
    trained.  So my guess is , 2,000 military staff at the same time is rotated every couple of months. So 10,000 services man from the period of 2015 to 2016.  but at the same time
    only 2,000.  probably it doesn't include volunteers trainers that are not in the Russian army that are also helping. their medals have to be more in $$ cash. someone like Motorola from Donetsk who released a video ,what he tried to show that was in Syria. The 10,000 medals neither should include the civilian staff that operate in the base ,cooking ,or cleaning ,musicians . etc.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:20 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture

    That's because it wasn't in Tadmor, but near as suykahna. And basically they were " behind enemy lines " He died his gun in hand, and probably was wounded during contact. Best training didn't help multiple Seal/Delta/SAS get blown and shot to bits. It's not some vidéo game. Shit happens.

    no shit hombre

    my current knowledge of this incident is it was around palmyra, and that he was alone and got spotted by these caveman and surrounded. after i saw his gear in combination with "airstrike" on himself it was clear the story was bullshit

    Isis says it wasn't in Palmyra, but way behind it. I'm sorry I'm on my Smartphone, so I can't convey my sarcasm. But this is something absolutely puzzling if ISIS is to be believed. Means Russians have gone back to their Afghan ways. Anyway Rip.

    But then a lack of a body gives a different perspective.  Cause we all know how the terrorist scumbags love to tout a body around.  We don't even know if the gear belongs to the guy anyway either.  Lets face facts here, it is claimed that 6 or 7 is dead.  We know 1 was suicide, 1 pilot down thanks to Turdkey, 1 Marine dead thanks to Turdkey's hooligans, 1 was dead from mortar fire, and then?  That comes down to 4.  The other 2? Those ISIS assholes love to dance around like the chimps they are with images of dead soldiers, especially if they are Russian.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  kvs on Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:50 am

    ult wrote:
    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):


    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    Yes, it is Latakia. It's from this video.

    5:23


    The only reason to have this system in Syria is to send Erdo-turd a signal. Any attempt to invade Syria and try to attack
    Russian units can be met with a tactical nuke strike. The possibility of there being nuclear warheads in the theater is likely
    extremely high. I just don't see conventional warheads having much deterrence effect. The S-400 system is a different
    game altogether.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:13 am

    kvs wrote:
    ult wrote:
    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):


    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    Yes, it is Latakia. It's from this video.

    5:23


    The only reason to have this system in Syria is to send Erdo-turd a signal.   Any attempt to invade Syria and try to attack
    Russian units can be met with a tactical nuke strike.    The possibility of there being nuclear warheads in the theater is likely
    extremely high.   I just don't see conventional warheads having much deterrence effect.   The S-400 system is a different
    game altogether.  

    More likely conventional warheads, and Iskander-M's presence is probably their to take out any of the Patriot Batteries under Turkish control (if Turdogan feels hungry for neckties, preferably a Colombian necktie), giving little resistance to various kinds of PGM's strikes.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:34 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    ult wrote:
    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):


    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    Yes, it is Latakia. It's from this video.

    5:23

    The only reason to have this system in Syria is to send Erdo-turd a signal.   Any attempt to invade Syria and try to attack
    Russian units can be met with a tactical nuke strike.    The possibility of there being nuclear warheads in the theater is likely
    extremely high.   I just don't see conventional warheads having much deterrence effect.   The S-400 system is a different
    game altogether.  

    More likely conventional warheads, and Iskander-M's presence is probably their to take out any of the Patriot Batteries under Turkish control (if Turdogan feels hungry for neckties, preferably a Colombian necktie), giving little resistance to various kinds of PGM's strikes.
    Agree on the warheads but not the potential target. In the event of the Turkish Army crossing the border in force those Iskanders could be hitting them almost before they passed Syrian passport control Laughing probably much faster and certainly at lower risk than trying to get aircraft there. After that the Kalibres could pile in. Missiles seem to be favourite for area bombardment in these days of very valuable pilots.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:40 am

    The first group of Russian experts arrived at the Hmeimim airbase in Syria on Thursday to assist demining operations in Palmyra, the Russian Defense Ministry press service said.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The group, equipped with everything necessary for autonomous work, left for Palmyra from the Chkalovsky military airport in the Moscow region.

    "Today, the first part of the consolidated unit of the Russian Armed Forces International Mine Action Center arrived at the Hmeimim airbase in the Syrian Arab Republic to participate in humanitarian demining of the objects of critical infrastructure and the historical part of the ancient city of Palmyra," the press service said in a statement.

    The group also includes dog handlers.

    On Sunday, the Syrian army supported by militia and the Russian Aerospace Forces recaptured the historic city, which had been under control of the Islamic State militant group for about a year.

    Before the retreat, the militants of the terrorist group, which is prohibited in a number of countries, including Russia, had planted a number of bombs and land mines all over Palmyra. The Syrian army has already started demining operations in the liberated city.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160331/1037248699/syria-russia-palmyra-demining.html#ixzz44TKINgI5

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:52 am

    The Commander of the Russian military grouping in Syria gives first interview to “Rossiyskaya Gazeta”.

    http://thesaker.is/the-commander-of-the-russian-military-grouping-in-syria-gives-first-interview/

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:54 am

    Ka-52 in Syria. What are the racks outboard of the rocket pods?


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:58 am

    JohninMK wrote:Ka-52 in Syria. What are the racks outboard of the rocket pods?




    Self explanatory Smile

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:02 am

    Thanks.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  AK-Rex on Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:23 am

    Mi-28N launches guided antitank missile against ISIS objects near Palmyra


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  ult on Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:25 am

    And another one.




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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:25 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    ult wrote:
    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):


    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    Yes, it is Latakia. It's from this video.

    5:23

    The only reason to have this system in Syria is to send Erdo-turd a signal.   Any attempt to invade Syria and try to attack
    Russian units can be met with a tactical nuke strike.    The possibility of there being nuclear warheads in the theater is likely
    extremely high.   I just don't see conventional warheads having much deterrence effect.   The S-400 system is a different
    game altogether.  

    More likely conventional warheads, and Iskander-M's presence is probably their to take out any of the Patriot Batteries under Turkish control (if Turdogan feels hungry for neckties, preferably a Colombian necktie), giving little resistance to various kinds of PGM's strikes.
    Agree on the warheads but not the potential target. In the event of the Turkish Army crossing the border in force those Iskanders could be hitting them almost before they passed Syrian passport control Laughing probably much faster and certainly at lower risk than trying to get aircraft there. After that the Kalibres could pile in. Missiles seem to be favourite for area bombardment in these days of very valuable pilots.

    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Just have a look at the map.
    The major Turkish airbase at in Incirlik is right within the range of ISKANDER.
    In case of conflict, that airbase and its aircraft will be gone.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:12 pm

    AK-Rex wrote:Mi-28N launches guided antitank missile against ISIS objects near Palmyra


    First strike

    10 sec for 3.5 km 350m/sec... Shturm?

    Second Strike

    8 sec for 4.5 km 600m/s ...Vikhr.

    Wallahi Billahi Vikhr can be mounted on Mil Mi 28N? Or Ka 52 was in Plamyra...

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:27 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    AK-Rex wrote:Mi-28N launches guided antitank missile against ISIS objects near Palmyra


    First strike

    10 sec for 3.5 km 350m/sec... Shturm?

    Second Strike

    8 sec for 4.5 km 600m/s ...Vikhr.

    Wallahi Billahi Vikhr can be mounted on Mil Mi 28N? Or Ka 52 was in Plamyra...

    From what i am aware Vikrh is still KA52/SU25 exclusive.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:38 pm

    RU MO: Best secrecy keeper. Haha they used the Ka 52 in Palmyra and no one saw à thing.

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