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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:41 pm

    Александр Прохоренко/Alexander Prokhorenko age 25, spotter that called airstrike on himself











    Source: http://warfiles.ru/show-113299-aleksandr-prohorenko-geroy-rossii-vyzvavshiy-ogon-na-sebya.html

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:37 pm

    R.I.P.

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    Post  Dima on Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:28 pm

    Young guy. Rest in peace.

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    Post  Dima on Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:39 pm

    Said to be a translated version of the comm between the base and the Russian servicemen.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f20_1459155194


    The Jihadi outlets had there own investigations and victims.
    Russian major was killed in Syria last month: former subordinates
    BALASHIKHA, Russia | By Maria Tsvetkova
    World | Wed Mar 23, 2016
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-toll-idUSKCN0WP2AW
    Another one
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-syria-four-more-russian-soldiers-killed-battle-palmyra-claims-islamic-state-1550338

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Vann7 on Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:41 am


    i just love how every major western media outlet , never give names of
    their sources.. and always call them "anonymous officers" or a "General who wanst to be
    indentified  told us". or an "international this or that " All that almost all the times pure propaganda. To try to use the death of Russian soldiers to instigate social unrest in Russia.
    Reuters is just one of those propaganda outlets ,who try to pass as independent media ,but
    its controlled too by the pro NATO club elite. who is behind the support of the terrorist that Russia is fighting.

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    Post  kvs on Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:36 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    i just love how every major western media outlet , never give names of
    their sources.. and always call them "anonymous officers" or a "General who wanst to be
    indentified  told us". or an "international this or that " All that almost all the times pure propaganda. To try to use the death of Russian soldiers to instigate social unrest in Russia.
    Reuters is just one of those propaganda outlets ,who try to pass as independent media ,but
    its controlled too by the pro NATO club elite. who is behind the support of the terrorist that Russia is fighting.

    NATzO turd media is not going to get far in stirring up Russians against their own country by using dead Russian heroes.
    They best it will do is to get the 5th column liberasts to bleat the same shite over and over as it always does. But
    this lunatic fringe has no popular base in Russia and every week they shrink into utter irrelevance.

    There will be Duma elections soon and the NATzO media is preparing the usual rent-a-crowd theater.

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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:51 am

    It is all in english as well, not like it will actually do them any good anyway.  The media used this same tactic for decades and it hasn't worked, not like it will now.  The fifth columnists have been using western references for years as well to try and tarnish Putin's image and United Russia, but that also didn't work.  When Putin first stepped down and Medvedev became president, the west thought Medvedev would budge, and he only budged for Libya.  After that, he gave hell to Georgia.  So he didn't budge.  Now Putin is back and next elections coming up, and if United Russia wins again (most likely), then it will be another 7 years of west trying the same crap.  BTW, do we know for sure Putin is running in next elections?  My understanding is that he is not, since he can only run twice.

    Edit: Just realized something but there is always contradiction in these statements. If Russian government is trying to hide a death of a soldier in Syria to refrain from international and domestic pressure, then why do they mention the other deaths that have happened? That contradiction alone disproves the articles.

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    Post  kvs on Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:44 am

    sepheronx wrote:It is all in english as well, not like it will actually do them any good anyway.  The media used this same tactic for decades and it hasn't worked, not like it will now.  The fifth columnists have been using western references for years as well to try and tarnish Putin's image and United Russia, but that also didn't work.  When Putin first stepped down and Medvedev became president, the west thought Medvedev would budge, and he only budged for Libya.  After that, he gave hell to Georgia.  So he didn't budge.  Now Putin is back and next elections coming up, and if United Russia wins again (most likely), then it will be another 7 years of west trying the same crap.  BTW, do we know for sure Putin is running in next elections?  My understanding is that he is not, since he can only run twice.

    Edit: Just realized something but there is always contradiction in these statements.  If Russian government is trying to hide a death of a soldier in Syria to refrain from international and domestic pressure, then why do they mention the other deaths that have happened?  That contradiction alone disproves the articles.

    This is a standard "NGO" (aka foreign state sponsored 5th column employing local and foreign paid agents) tactic to generate a myth.
    They want to create the impression that there are hundreds of deaths covered up by concocting one or two "cases".  Then with a
    persistent enough parrot chorus ("govorilnya") they intend to create a hysteria about some non-existent epic fail of Putin.   Of course,
    this propaganda BS serves to also divert attention from the success of the intervention in Syria in saving Syrians from the hands of
    head-chopping, liver-eating, child-sodomizing, USA-sponsored terrorist scum.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:07 am

    I still don't get it, cause it really isn't working, now has it?  I mean, if it was working, then Putin's popularity would have dropped considerably, but it hasn't.  It is roughly same as it was last years.  And it surely has not increased the popularity of the other groups either as now Yobloko party has to merge with Paranas party just to gain additional voter base when their voter base was roughly what? 4% between the two of them?  This really isn't helping them, now has it?  Has it created any dissent in Russia?  I don't see any protests by people demanding Russia to pull out of Syria.  Yet, we see people lambasting US all the time within their own country, without the media hype behind it.

    So what exactly is it doing?  Nothing.  Why are they continuing this effort?  Do they not realize that it is just wasted energy?  I mean, I am sitting here, thinking logically and not using lousy terms here, and I am simply not getting it.  We can call them NATZO and whatever, but that is beside the point.  We don't even have to point it out or go into hysteria.  All we have to do is actually just sit back and laugh cause all they are doing is making themselves less and less credible and sound absolutely ridiculous.

    Like I said, it contradicts them.  Russia posts about their dead.  They mentioned the dead.  I highly doubt much coverage would have been available about the soldier who committed suicide.  But they mentioned that anyway.  So that alone contradicts them and most Russians seem to be quite knowledgeable or at least capable of critical thinking, and they can easily tell the contradiction in the articles themselves. I mean, Russia besides the use of RT and Sputnik, doesn't really create these same allegations to create dissent in USA. Instead, USA does it to themselves and created people such as Snowden as an example. whom was a powerful blow to US. Or even Wiki Leaks itself which really goes after US politics. Funny too cause it didn't need Russia or its media to create dissidents within the USA. So I mean, lets be real here.

    What I think this news is all for, is for the locals here in Canada or the west in general.  Keep telling them stories about how poorly Russians are operating in hopes people forget about all of our dead in pointless conflicts like Afghanistan as an example.

    as well, the NGO comment cant work anymore, as the Russians are banning them left and right, and really are going after the people obtaining money from them.  We may see prior to elections possible banning any parties from participating that have obtained foreign money.  I think it was LDPR or Fair Russia party that has pushed the idea.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  OminousSpudd on Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:17 am

    Their drive to alienate Russia has actually has had/is having the complete opposite effect. See the explosive growth of Youtube channels such as SouthFront, StormCloudsGathering, and many, many other indie news channels that at worst, attempt to be marginally neutral and at best are bang on the money. Not only that but those who have a change in perspective can be transformed into genuinely furious Russophiles. What is that saying about "No force like that of the newly converted..."?

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:00 am

    There is a picture of CasEvac in Latakia and crude shrapnel extracted from the body (allegedly). Once again I don't buy the Tactical team killed in Qasr al Hayr, because where it is (Near Al Suknah way beyond Palmyra), lack of body. In the mean time, even the equipment they shown in video, doesn't have anything more than a very short range radio, no designator and no telemetre or any other instrument to accurately find and relay coordinates from targets except the IWT Charon, which has to be recharged about every 72 hours.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:29 pm

    Long Reuters article barking up the wrong tree. If their journalist thinks the Syrian Express has not slowed down he must be looking in the wrong place for information. These are first paras. Oh, and Yauza is not an icebreaker, just an ice capable small cargo ship.

    When Vladimir Putin announced the withdrawal of most of Russia's military contingent from Syria there was an expectation that the Yauza, a Russian naval icebreaker and one of the mission's main supply vessels, would return home to its Arctic Ocean port.

    Instead, three days after Putin's March 14 declaration, the Yauza, part of the "Syrian Express", the nickname given to the ships that have kept Russian forces supplied, left the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossiysk for Tartous, Russia's naval facility in Syria. Whatever it was carrying was heavy; it sat so low in the water that its load line was barely visible.

    Its movements and those of other Russian ships in the two weeks since Putin's announcement of a partial withdrawal suggest Moscow has in fact shipped more equipment and supplies to Syria than it has brought back in the same period, a Reuters analysis shows. It is not known what the ships were carrying or how much equipment has been flown out in giant cargo planes accompanying returning war planes.

    But the movements - while only a partial snapshot - suggest Russia is working intensively to maintain its military infrastructure in Syria and to supply the Syrian army so that it can scale up again swiftly if need be.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-supplies-idUSKCN0WW0DJ

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:37 pm

    Александр Прохоренко/Alexander Prokhorenko age 25, spotter that called airstrike on himself

    Rest in peace.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:20 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:There is a picture of CasEvac in Latakia and crude shrapnel extracted from the body (allegedly). Once again I don't buy the Tactical team killed in Qasr al Hayr, because where it is (Near Al Suknah way beyond Palmyra), lack of body. In the mean time, even the equipment they shown in video, doesn't have anything more than a very short range radio, no designator and no telemetre or any other instrument to accurately find and relay coordinates from targets except the IWT Charon, which has to be recharged about every 72 hours.

    "Prokhorenko enlisted in the Military Academy of Air Defence of the Armed Forces of Russian Federation immediately after leaving school." - If he graduated here, than it sort of makes sense that he was spotter

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Dima on Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:50 pm

    Compare the US and Russian aid! On USAID, we only see big US promo even if the contents inside are bought off from 3rd world countries at dirt cheap prices.

    The 'Nimr' Tiger ‏@Souria4Syrians  4 hours ago
    Beautiful: Russian aid reaches East #Aleppo families after they were liberated from #ISIS last month

    https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/715151308798476288

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    Post  Dima on Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:06 pm

    I would love to see this Turkey caught alive like those TOW operating terrorists

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    https://twitter.com/bm27_uragan/status/714909920085295105

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    Post  Dima on Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:20 pm

    A nice Su-24 lineup


    What say??
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    Russian Defense Ministry to buy 10,000 medals for soldiers that participated in Syria

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-military-orders-10000-medals-for-soldiers-in-syria/ar-BBr2844

    Will that give us an idea of how many Russian servicemen/women were deployed in Syria and how many more they intend to deploy?

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:45 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:There is a picture of CasEvac in Latakia and crude shrapnel extracted from the body (allegedly). Once again I don't buy the Tactical team killed in Qasr al Hayr, because where it is (Near Al Suknah way beyond Palmyra), lack of body. In the mean time, even the equipment they shown in video, doesn't have anything more than a very short range radio, no designator and no telemetre or any other instrument to accurately find and relay coordinates from targets except the IWT Charon, which has to be recharged about every 72 hours.

    "Prokhorenko enlisted in the Military Academy of Air Defence of the Armed Forces of Russian Federation immediately after leaving school." - If he graduated here, than it sort of makes sense that he was spotter

    Not dissing the MO, nor his memory. Just that there is more to his story.

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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:56 pm

    So the US is arming the SyAA next. lol! My highlight

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) – The United States has no plans to carry out a joint operation with the Russian military to liberate the Syrian city of Raqqa from the Daesh jihadist group, a US Defense Department official told Sputnik on Wednesday.

    "We are not planning any operations with Russia to jointly liberate Raqqa from Daesh control," the official stated. "In Syria, our focus remains on equipping and enabling local, motivated forces who can take the fight to Daesh."

    The US and Russian forces continue to adhere to the flights de-confliction mechanism in Syria after the cessation of hostilities went into effect in the country, a US Defense Department official said.

    "We also continue to have limited, tactical discussions with Russia about de-conflicting our respective military efforts in Syria — but those are focused on where not to strike and on de-confliction, and we are not planning any joint operations," the official stated.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160330/1037225700/us-russia-raqqa.html#ixzz44Pj2xAj8

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:10 pm

    Dima wrote:...........
    Russian Defense Ministry to buy 10,000 medals for soldiers that participated in Syria

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-military-orders-10000-medals-for-soldiers-in-syria/ar-BBr2844

    Will that give us an idea of how many Russian servicemen/women were deployed in Syria and how many more they intend to deploy?

    Number probably involves all who participated. That would include Navy crews and ground crews in Russia. Also guys in intelligence services and HQ. Logistics also most likely.

    It adds up quickly.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  NationalRus on Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:45 pm

    would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture

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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:55 pm

    NationalRus wrote:would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture

    That's because it wasn't in Tadmor, but near as suykahna. And basically they were " behind enemy lines " He died his gun in hand, and probably was wounded during contact. Best training didn't help multiple Seal/Delta/SAS get blown and shot to bits. It's not some vidéo game. Shit happens.

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    Post  NationalRus on Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:05 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture

    That's because it wasn't in Tadmor, but near as suykahna. And basically they were " behind enemy lines " He died his gun in hand, and probably was wounded during contact. Best training didn't help multiple Seal/Delta/SAS get blown and shot to bits. It's not some vidéo game. Shit happens.

    no shit hombre

    my current knowledge of this incident is it was around palmyra, and that he was alone and got spotted by these caveman and surrounded. after i saw his gear in combination with "airstrike" on himself it was clear the story was bullshit

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:10 pm

    NationalRus wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture

    That's because it wasn't in Tadmor, but near as suykahna. And basically they were " behind enemy lines " He died his gun in hand, and probably was wounded during contact. Best training didn't help multiple Seal/Delta/SAS get blown and shot to bits. It's not some vidéo game. Shit happens.

    no shit hombre

    my current knowledge of this incident is it was around palmyra, and that he was alone and got spotted by these caveman and surrounded. after i saw his gear in combination with "airstrike" on himself it was clear the story was bullshit

    Isis says it wasn't in Palmyra, but way behind it. I'm sorry I'm on my Smartphone, so I can't convey my sarcasm. But this is something absolutely puzzling if ISIS is to be believed. Means Russians have gone back to their Afghan ways. Anyway Rip.

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