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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:54 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Pictures courtesy BM-27

    Mi-24 in its lair



    ..............

    This would be one of four ''Horsemen of the Apocalypse'' we saw parked at Shariyat air base? Twisted Evil
    Same crowd that has been doing Palmyra? russia

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:01 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Pictures courtesy BM-27

    Mi-24 in its lair

    ..............

    This would be one of four ''Horsemen of the Apocalypse'' we saw parked at Shariyat air base? Twisted Evil
    Same crowd that has been doing Palmyra? russia

    I think the English translation is that it is on a 'training' mission. Must be if the training budget is paying. Laughing

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  higurashihougi on Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:04 pm

    It's seems like the name of the matyr is Denis Tukhmanov.

    Anybody who know Russian can verify this info ? Question  Question  Idea

    https://www.facebook.com/eurasiadaily.nz/posts/1589530691337917

    A photo has surfaced of Russian special ops Denis Tukhmanov, who sacrificed himself in the battle for Palmyra. His mission was to ensure that no Syrian civilians were in the vicinity and only ISIS were targeted. Upon guiding the Russian airforce, he became surrounded by ISIS thugs.

    Realizing that there is no way to get away with his life, he asked his Command to use his location and bombard the area, killing him and the surrounding ISIS warriors. His last words were that he loves his family and that he will not let ISIS disgrace his body and the uniform he was wearing.

    The flag behind him says "Above us are only the stars!"

    Today, the Syrian forces have recaptured the gem of civilisation that is Palmyra, under the watchful eye of Russia's airforce. It's been a bittersweet victory, but together we have turned the tide in the battle against international terrorism.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:58 pm

    These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):





    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:06 pm

    Syria has theoretically their own Iskander-E's.

    But yeah, that Giant middle finger to Erdogan must have felt good for the Russians.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  ult on Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:10 pm

    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):





    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    Yes, it is Latakia. It's from this video.

    5:23


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:15 pm



    Russian operatives with Syrian Commando shoulder patch.

    Where's the "Putin-abandonned-Syria" crew?

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  medo on Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:17 pm

    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):





    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    I think this is Bastion complex.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:25 pm

    medo wrote:
    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):





    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    I think this is Bastion complex.

    Wheelbase too small. TEL too small. Wheels not in correct disposition.

    Also Palmyra making fast recovery. First tourists spotted.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:00 pm



    Football Very Happy

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:31 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    medo wrote:
    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):


    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    I think this is Bastion complex.

    Wheelbase too small. TEL too small. Wheels not in correct disposition.

    Looks close to an Iskander



    not a Bastion


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Dima on Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:34 pm

    BM-27 Uragan ‏@bm27_uragan 1 hour ago
    Russian military in Palmyra yesterday

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Dima on Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:42 pm

    Russian Mi-24s over Palmyra


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DOmoC_aHNs

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Dima on Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:59 pm

    Dont know much about the Jordanian King, but reading this article makes me feel he is a clown. Now if its due to his western wife, I dont know.

    Israeli and Jordanian Jets Confronted Russian Warplanes on Syrian Border, King Says

    'The Russians were shocked and understood they could not mess with us,' says Jordanian King Abdullah, adds that Jordan 'spoke on behalf of Israel' with Russia.
    Haaretz Mar 25, 2016 4:39 PM

    Israeli and Jordanian fighter planes jointly confronted Russian air force jets over the southern Syrian border, according to a briefing by Jordan's King Abdullah to senior members of the United States Congress.

    The date of the confrontation was not disclosed during Abdullah's meeting in Washington on January 11. The incident was reported by Middle East Eye, who said it had seen an account of the meeting.

    According to the report, the Russian planes were on a mission to survey Israeli defenses on the Syrian border. "We saw the Russians fly down, but they were met with Israeli and Jordanian F-16s, both together in Israeli and Jordanian airspace," Abdullah said.

    "The Russians were shocked and understood they could not mess with us."

    The incident triggered trilateral efforts to reduce the tension, during which Jordan often spoke "on behalf of Israel" when discussing missions related to the south of Syria with Russia," the king said.

    "We discussed an idea on how to keep the Russians in their place," the king told the U.S. members of Congress.

    The Israel Defense Forces spokesman refused to comment on the report, the MEE said.

    Jordan and Russia subsequently agreed on the borders of their operations. ”We told Russia that we want to liquidate Nusra," Abdullah said, referring to the Al-Qaida affiliate in Syrian. "Russia asked that we give them their positions to hit them, but we refused, so we don't give them a reason to hit the FSA [Free Syria Army] there."

    Abdullah said that the Russians were warned that “one bullet across the agreed border in the south, and all gloves are off.” :rotfl:

    The joint efforts to reduce tensions were successful, except for an incident in which Russian bombers hit Nusra near the ceasefire line agreed with Moscow: "We over-reacted, so they got the message," Abdullah said.

    The situation was different in the north of Syria, where "Russia was hitting everybody," Abdullah said. After the Russians argued that they were not getting targets, Jordan gave them specific coordinates it had received from the U.S.

    Abdullah said Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to launch air strikes in Syria came in response to a plea to Moscow from the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

    "The Russians were shocked about how weak the Assad regime was and they felt suckered in," the king said. "So Putin needs a way out. Putin lost a passenger plan and a fighter jet, so he has a timeline where he needs to get out.”

    Asked about what motivated Putin and whether he was seeking to become "king of the world, regaining Russian glory," Abdullah noted that the threat posed by the Islamic State (ISIS) came up in all his discussions with Putin and that whatever problems terrorism posed in Europe, it was 10 times worse for Russia because of the number of Russians and nationals from former Soviet countries fighting in Syria.

    Asked about Putin’s influence on Assad, Abdullah replied: ”If Putin asks Assad to jump, Assad will ask how high.” He noted that when Putin summoned Assad to Moscow, the Syrian leader went alone and without advisers.

    Abdullah claimed that Assad was now in a weaker position and more ready for a transition after inviting both Iran and Russian forces into Syria.

    He said Turkey wanted Assad to leave immediately, while others wanted his departure in 18 months.

    He said that if there was not any progress within two months of a ceasefire, the opposition would become frustrated and start fighting again and Putin, as an ex-KGB agent, understood that.
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.710905

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:18 pm

    Dima wrote:Dont know much about the Jordanian King, but reading this article makes me feel he is a clown. Now if its due to his western wife, I dont know.

    His wife is Palestinian born or living in Kuwait for some time afaik.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:42 pm

    Dima wrote:Dont know much about the Jordanian King, but reading this article makes me feel he is a clown. Now if its due to his western wife, I dont know.

    Israeli and Jordanian Jets Confronted Russian Warplanes on Syrian Border, King Says

    'The Russians were shocked and understood they could not mess with us,' says Jordanian King Abdullah, adds that Jordan 'spoke on behalf of Israel' with Russia.
    Haaretz Mar 25, 2016 4:39 PM

    Israeli and Jordanian fighter planes jointly confronted Russian air force jets over the southern Syrian border, according to a briefing by Jordan's King Abdullah to senior members of the United States Congress.

    The date of the confrontation was not disclosed during Abdullah's meeting in Washington on January 11. The incident was reported by Middle East Eye, who said it had seen an account of the meeting.

    According to the report, the Russian planes were on a mission to survey Israeli defenses on the Syrian border. "We saw the Russians fly down, but they were met with Israeli and Jordanian F-16s, both together in Israeli and Jordanian airspace," Abdullah said.

    "The Russians were shocked and understood they could not mess with us."

    The incident triggered trilateral efforts to reduce the tension, during which Jordan often spoke "on behalf of Israel" when discussing missions related to the south of Syria with Russia," the king said.

    "We discussed an idea on how to keep the Russians in their place," the king told the U.S. members of Congress.

    The Israel Defense Forces spokesman refused to comment on the report, the MEE said.

    Jordan and Russia subsequently agreed on the borders of their operations. ”We told Russia that we want to liquidate Nusra," Abdullah said, referring to the Al-Qaida affiliate in Syrian. "Russia asked that we give them their positions to hit them, but we refused, so we don't give them a reason to hit the FSA [Free Syria Army] there."

    Abdullah said that the Russians were warned that “one bullet across the agreed border in the south, and all gloves are off.” :rotfl:

    The joint efforts to reduce tensions were successful, except for an incident in which Russian bombers hit Nusra near the ceasefire line agreed with Moscow: "We over-reacted, so they got the message," Abdullah said.

    The situation was different in the north of Syria, where "Russia was hitting everybody," Abdullah said. After the Russians argued that they were not getting targets, Jordan gave them specific coordinates it had received from the U.S.

    Abdullah said Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to launch air strikes in Syria came in response to a plea to Moscow from the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

    "The Russians were shocked about how weak the Assad regime was and they felt suckered in," the king said. "So Putin needs a way out. Putin lost a passenger plan and a fighter jet, so he has a timeline where he needs to get out.”

    Asked about what motivated Putin and whether he was seeking to become "king of the world, regaining Russian glory," Abdullah noted that the threat posed by the Islamic State (ISIS) came up in all his discussions with Putin and that whatever problems terrorism posed in Europe, it was 10 times worse for Russia because of the number of Russians and nationals from former Soviet countries fighting in Syria.

    Asked about Putin’s influence on Assad, Abdullah replied: ”If Putin asks Assad to jump, Assad will ask how high.” He noted that when Putin summoned Assad to Moscow, the Syrian leader went alone and without advisers.

    Abdullah claimed that Assad was now in a weaker position and more ready for a transition after inviting both Iran and Russian forces into Syria.

    He said Turkey wanted Assad to leave immediately, while others wanted his departure in 18 months.

    He said that if there was not any progress within two months of a ceasefire, the opposition would become frustrated and start fighting again and Putin, as an ex-KGB agent, understood that.
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.710905

    Black PR guys, just please don't post this garbage in here. The Israelis typically say the other way around. The US was scared to death the Russians were going to level the Southern Front in the mean time they did the Bassel Al Assad IAP perimetre.

    The Israelis started in earnest as they contacted Russia saying they weren't against VKS blowing shit up as long as Hizb didn't get any goodie. To which Russia replied that Israel cut the maritime patrols along the coast. Which both happened. Russia let the IAF slip through twice and Israel stopped its 550's flights along the coast.

    Also, both sides understood SHTF when Turkey pulled a Turkey. From there on you had all those super buddy articles about how the cooperation was good and Russia was doing a very proffessional job in Syria etc.

    Also saying that Putin left, is exactly why this is clueless black PR, the Russians never left, they simply moved the goal posts. Now they've got the Syrians to fire artillery and that they have stocked enough firepower to keep this going for a week, they don't need to hit everyone, ISIS can be dealt with minimal assets. The full monty was needed for all participants. FSA/AASh/JAN/JAF/ISIS and all the Turkmens. Given half those groups are either routed or have subscribed into Pax Russiana, the rest can be taken more easily. Palmyra was a good opportunity to show off and score PR points. It's a desert, and rather flat with ridges to defend it. Once the Ridges are done, the City is gone. Ipso Facto that's what happened. This creates a false image of either difficulty or simplicity (according to the sides you cheer for). However IMO Isis never had more than 1500 people in and around Palmyra/Tadmor. So yeah losing 180 guys, including those 17 people killed by Red on Red isn't good. Now cutting down even half those dirtbags is a good result.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  ult on Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:46 pm

    Russia has pulled out Mi-35M's and brought in Mi-35M's with President-S (Vitebsk) installed.





    http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1617122/?fb#ixzz44BsxbhRS

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:47 pm

    Aldin Abazović ‏@Ald_Aba 3h3 hours ago

    #Russia BPM-97 Vystrel with IED jammers in #Palmyra desert. #Syria


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:46 pm



    Hizballah and Russians///

    1:07. Hizb fighter with old US flackjacket (Israeli style) and in front of him Polite Camo. Dayum they really went in.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  x_54_u43 on Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:02 am

    Birthday being celebrated:





    Demining Equipment being sent to Syria, maybe we will get Uran-9 in combat as well, it is apparently ready for service.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:04 am

    x_54_u43 wrote:...........


    Demining Equipment being sent to Syria, maybe we will get Uran-9 in combat as well, it is apparently ready for service.


    That was quick, I guess Russian Military really gotten fast on it's feet... thumbsup

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Shadåw on Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:39 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:

    Hizballah and Russians///

    1:07. Hizb fighter with old US flackjacket (Israeli style) and in front of him Polite Camo. Dayum they really went in.


    Shows, some of what yours linked but longer also T-72B and Mi-28.



    Mi-28 is VERY CLOSE UP through zoom!

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:57 pm

    Latakia:






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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:14 pm

    http://vocaroo.com/i/s0z7ewdCJhhv

    What seems to be Russian artillery spotter giving corrections to artillery - audio

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:18 pm



    Her Majesty spotted in Syria, probably taken from Russian soldier to take pic with

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