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    Ukraine Military: Situation and Needs

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    Post  Airman on Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:28 am

    miketheterrible wrote:So it's alright for Turkey to supply weapons clearly used to kill Russians?

    Fuck Turkey.

    When Russia sells Iskander missiles to Armenia, it's okay. However, When Turkey sells UAV's to Ukraine, Oh! İts'a huge problem! We should drop some nukes on Turkey!

    Ukrainian Army is using Russian/Soviet made arms to fight against Pro-Russian forces in Donbass. I think, You need to worry about Russian made weapons in the hands of Ukrainian Army, rather than Turkish made UAV's. Because Ukrainian army is full of Russian made weapons. Maybe Russia should drop an atomic bomb on its territory for selling these weapons to Ukraine?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:58 am

    Armanians aren't actively killing Turks dumbass.  Only ones who faced a genocide by Turks are Armenians. So stop playing victim.

    Plus you seem to fail to graps difference between Soviet gear and Russian. Ukraine uses Soviet gear.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:51 am

    Russia sells weapons to almost anyone... even Saudi Arabia... they are hardly in a position to throw stones.

    I don't think Turkey is more guilty of such things as any other "partner" the Russians have.

    The UK and US go out of their way to finance and support those that will do harm to Russia and Russian interests... I think they are more of a problem than Turkey.

    I think Turkey could become a useful and powerful ally to Russia, and I think Russian gas going to Turkey and then on to Europe gives Turkey a lot of leverage over the EU, and will earn them a lot in transit fees alone.

    The Ukraine was going to buy UAVs... whether Turkey sells them or Israel or whoever else does is not really that important... Turkey should make sure the cheque clears before handing over any hardware.

    I am sure the Russians will find those UAVs interesting to examine and dissect.
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:39 am

    All this over 12 UAV wow. am sure Russia has now given forces in the east verba to tackle the threat lol.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:11 pm

    Actually it would probably be much more useful to use one of their jammers and see if they can knock one down electronically so they can get a look at one... but of course claim publicly that they are unreliable and had some sort of system failure and that is why it crashed.

    If you can bring them down you don't want them to know that...

    Verbas would be overkill... they should send them to me... Smile
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:49 am


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    Nikolai Vorobiev, the director of the #Ukraine's "Antonova" #HALE UAV project said, "we are developing the HALE #UAV with a foreign country. They will provide the electronic parts and bombs"


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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:15 pm

    Good... they are armed... so easy to justify shooting them down in numbers on sight.
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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:00 pm

    Recovery of tanks in Ukraine from storage

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3587222.html
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:26 pm

    George1 wrote:Recovery of tanks in Ukraine from storage

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3587222.html

    Mildly amusing/humorous PR from the Ukrappy, but the question is how many are in fighting shape and how many are just gloried monuments? 404 is notorious for their armor repair short-comings (Oplot, BTR-4, all of their T-80 modifications), hell the few working Su-27's they have had little amount of repairs done over the span of 30 years.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:04 pm

    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine accuses the KGBM of disrupting the mass production of armored personnel carriers BTR-4E

    On August 15, 2019, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine published an official response to allegations from the Ukrainian media against it of blocking the purchase of armored personnel carriers BTR-4E produced by the State Enterprise Kharkiv Design Bureau of Engineering named after A.A. Morozova ”(HCMB). The text of the answer clearly demonstrates the level of degradation of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine - in particular, it is indicated that “in two years of the contract, with due funding, the enterprise [KHMB] produced only 7 units of BTR-4E armored personnel carriers”.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3739337.html
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    Post  kvs on Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:16 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    George1 wrote:Recovery of tanks in Ukraine from storage

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3587222.html

    Mildly amusing/humorous PR from the Ukrappy, but the question is how many are in fighting shape and how many are just gloried monuments? 404 is notorious for their armor repair short-comings (Oplot, BTR-4, all of their T-80 modifications), hell the few working Su-27's they have had little amount of repairs done over the span of 30 years.

    It turns out that the tanks stored in the open are basically garbage since the engines were not properly preserved. There have been
    numerous cases of these open air units experiencing catastrophic engine failure after refurbishment. Banderastan has lost the ability
    to manufacture the engines used by these tanks and I have not heard of any program to import NATO engines as substitutes.


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