- does not include any 300V or Buk units
- does not include the regiment size unit in Abkhazia of 16 SA-300PS's which may have been given to the Abkhazians or operated jointly and for which I have no unit number
- notice on Goggle satellite photos that some of the SA-300PS's taken from the Ukrainians in Crimea and awaiting to be returned are stored with the Russian SA-300PM's and some are in the launch position.
- at one time had a count of 188 SA-300PM's. Now showing only 160. I know that at least 8 were given to Belarus to upgrade their Air Defenses and the rest could be exchanged for PS's that I have not found or still with the SA-400 units.
- There are an additional 8 PS's at the training site Ashuluk
Im have not borther to do counting and wont because reading about Russian PVO tactics I have learnt its all about stealth and concealment meaning google earth will lead you to
nowhere. I is simply by my opinion wrong approach. Why? Well because -
1. If you are counting anything dont count TEL (it means nothing)
2. Count shooting radars (only thing making some sense - because you can work with that number)
3. You until recently thought that 4 TEL goes per battery not knowing that it can support 12 TELs per battery.
franco wrote:2. A battery of S-300/400 is 4 not 8.
meaning you lack fundamentals. Take this not as a critics but as a advice - you will feel much better reading about complexity of Russian PVO design of which you apparently know
little than counting usless TELs.
4. You will know that Russia has 480 TELs when you saw NATO generals jumping from happines all over the place. Russian PVO generals are talking about reflecting attacks
consisting of up to 500 planes per side from two different sides (out of three possible vectors of approach) and you are talking about lousy 60 batteries
... yeah per air defense zone.
5. But when you start counting (if managed to find) Bastion, Univerzal, Fundament, Akacia, AKUP, Rubezh etc I will know you have reached a certain lvl.
Counting TELs will lead you nowhere.
franco wrote:I know that at least 8 were given to Belarus to upgrade their Air Defenses and
You have got it all wrong.
Belarus will get 4 S-300 batteries meaning at least 4x8=32 TELs along with its 4 shooting and search radar. One nice regiment to put it nicely.
4 shooting radar can guide 48 missiles on to 24 targets. Meaning for instance that Poland could easily find itself without planes to attack just after few futile attempts if it gets
any crazy idea because Belarus has much more of S-300Px and S-300Vx and other PVO along with its interceptors and powerful PVO industry.
franco wrote:Some regiments have only 1 firing site while other regiments control 2 firing sites. Some of the PS's and PT regiments used to control 3-4 sites but they have all been phased out or in the process of.
Of course you will never be able to count hundereds of concealed prepaired and hundereds of unprepaired firing sites of which every one has a concealed roads and electricity
Things you are able to counts with google earth or sort is up to a point (very low one) "on duty" SAMs. Nothing more.