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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:38 pm

    ultron wrote:At a rate of several weeks to capture 1 village out of nearly 1000 to be captured, I suppose the pace is much slower than Putin expected. Chechen war was over in a matter of months. Here we are, months later and still fighting in Latakia. By the time Putin is 300 years old I suppose they'll still be fighting in Syria. Shocked

    Hey guys, is this our ill-informed friend back with us?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Dima on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:39 pm

    Not sure about the authenticity of this, but this is probably related to that earlier & recent ambush in the open fields of E Ghouta. I saw another video of that same combat and in that there were tanks and BMPs in the assault, but somehow (from what I gather from that video) they failed, most likely, to support the infantry/men....cant find that video, if anyone got the link to that video please post it. Aldin?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Dima on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:44 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    ultron wrote:At a rate of several weeks to capture 1 village out of nearly 1000 to be captured, I suppose the pace is much slower than Putin expected. Chechen war was over in a matter of months. Here we are, months later and still fighting in Latakia. By the time Putin is 300 years old I suppose they'll still be fighting in Syria. Shocked

    Hey guys, is this our ill-informed friend back with us?
    Wait a little more. Putin was 200 years before that post, after a couple of more posts Putin will be 500 years old. Its so sweet to hear that...would love to see Putin (& his current trusted comrades) to rule Russia atleast 200 years for the world to be a better place. Seriously. Very Happy

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  ultron on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:50 pm

    But seriously, why is the pace so slow? The Spanish civil war was over in 4 years. The Chinese civil war was over in 4 years. The American civil war was over in 4 years. WW1 was over in 4 years. WW2 was over in 5 years. How on Earth do rebels in East Ghouta and Homs pocket have so much arms and ammo when they are completely surrounded for years. Something is not right.

    The longer the conflict in Syria continues, the worse the situation. The Chinese have an old saying, ye chang meng duo, the longer the night, the more dreams. Who knows what can happen in the future. Maybe rebels will get anti aircraft missiles. Maybe not. The point is, the goal should be ending the conflict in Syria as soon as possible, rather than toying with rebels and dragging this out indefinitely.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:58 pm

    ultron wrote:But seriously, why is the pace so slow? The Spanish civil war was over in 4 years. The Chinese civil war was over in 4 years. The American civil war over over in 4 years. WW1 was over in 4 years. WW2 was over in 5 years. How on Earth do rebels in East Ghouta and Homs pocket have so much arms and ammo when they are completely surrounded for years. Something is not right.
    FFS don't you read the threads here? I'll make one go at this.

    Progress is 'slow'

    - against what measure? Ukraine or Iraq wars?
    - the SAA started with almost no morale
    - the SAA and allies have limited manpower and weapons especially armour
    - the SAA is spread over endless fronts
    - the terrorists have had in some places years to dig in and lay traps
    - many of the terrorists are good fighters and don't seem to mind dying for the cause
    - urban warfare is always slow with house to house fighting
    - much of the fighting to date has been in mountains which is always hard work
    - huge amounts of weapons and ammo have been pre-positioned

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  ultron on Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:00 pm

    [quote="JohninMK"]
    ultron wrote:FFS don't you read the threads here? I'll make one go at this.

    Progress is 'slow'

    - against what measure? Ukraine or Iraq wars?
    - the SAA started with almost no morale
    - the SAA and allies have limited manpower and weapons especially armour
    - the SAA is spread over endless fronts
    - the terrorists have had in some places years to dig
    - many of the terrorists are good fighters and don't seem to mind dying for the cause
    - urban warfare is slow with house to houe fighting
    - much of the fighting to date has been in mountains which is always hard work
    - huge amounts of weapons and ammo have been pre-positioned


    Ideally, the war in Syria should have ended by now after thousands of air strikes. The fact that it's nowhere close to ending is worrying. If this war drags on for years, who knows what can happen. It is not in Putin's interest to drag it out. It is in Putin's interest to end it as soon as possible. The Chinese have an old saying, ye chang meng duo, the longer the night, the more dreams. The longer something goes on, the greater than chance for unexpected things to happen.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Militarov on Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:40 pm

    ultron wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    ultron wrote:FFS don't you read the threads here? I'll make one go at this.

    Progress is 'slow'

    - against what measure? Ukraine or Iraq wars?
    - the SAA started with almost no morale
    - the SAA and allies have limited manpower and weapons especially armour
    - the SAA is spread over endless fronts
    - the terrorists have had in some places years to dig
    - many of the terrorists are good fighters and don't seem to mind dying for the cause
    - urban warfare is slow with house to houe fighting
    - much of the fighting to date has been in mountains which is always hard work
    - huge amounts of weapons and ammo have been pre-positioned


    Ideally, the war in Syria should have ended by now after thousands of air strikes. The fact that it's nowhere close to ending is worrying. If this war drags on for years, who knows what can happen. It is not in Putin's interest to drag it out. It is in Putin's interest to end it as soon as possible. The Chinese have an old saying, ye chang meng duo, the longer the night, the more dreams. The longer something goes on, the greater than chance for unexpected things to happen.

    "Ideally, the war in Syria should have ended by now after thousands of air strikes." - I am sure that you havent even served as conscript after this comment. How many millions of tons of explosive USAF dropped on Germans in Europe in WW2? And their advance still was painfully slow. Airforce is there to weaken enemy and give support to ground fources, not to win war for them. Russians cant hit every group of 5 fighters that are spread across half of Syria, infantry has to deal with them.

    Russians are dealing with command posts, storages, training centers, convoys, communication centers, artillery posts and similar targets of strategic value.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:49 pm

    ultron wrote:At a rate of several weeks to capture 1 village out of nearly 1000 to be captured, I suppose the pace is much slower than Putin expected. Chechen war was over in a matter of months. Here we are, months later and still fighting in Latakia. By the time Putin is 300 years old I suppose they'll still be fighting in Syria. Shocked


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:10 pm

    In Moscow was opened a new representative office of Western Kurdistan

    http://ria.ru/politics/20160210/1372486075.html
    For the people of West Kurdistan this event is historical. This was possible thanks to the hard struggle of the Kurds in Syria, said the special representative of the region in Europe and the USA Senam Muhammad.

    So first of many gifts for Turkey and NATO?


    6hours earlier in sputnik Smile

    The announcement of the leadership of the Syrian Kurds that they would open their first foreign office in Moscow is telling: their choice of Russia over Washington or Western Europe signals that Russia is allying with the Kurds in the Middle East, which will certainly undermine US and Turkish policy in the region, according to the Israeli media.
    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160210/1034493298/russia-syrian-kurds-alliance.html

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:12 pm

    ultron wrote:At a rate of several weeks to capture 1 village out of nearly 1000 to be captured, I suppose the pace is much slower than Putin expected. Chechen war was over in a matter of months. Here we are, months later and still fighting in Latakia. By the time Putin is 300 years old I suppose they'll still be fighting in Syria. Shocked



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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  BKP on Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:27 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    ultron wrote:At a rate of several weeks to capture 1 village out of nearly 1000 to be captured, I suppose the pace is much slower than Putin expected. Chechen war was over in a matter of months. Here we are, months later and still fighting in Latakia. By the time Putin is 300 years old I suppose they'll still be fighting in Syria. Shocked

    Hey guys, is this our ill-informed friend back with us?

    @ :06 "Oh man, not this guy again."  Very Happy


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  par far on Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:07 pm

    Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1  4h4 hours ago
    #Syria #Latakia #Lattakia New Video Showing #SAA #SyrianArabArmy #SyrianArmy Morale In the Region.
    #SyrianArmy Morale In the Region.

    Look at their faces...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD0I5LAJlWU


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Militarov on Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:23 pm

    par far wrote:Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1  4h4 hours ago
    #Syria #Latakia #Lattakia New Video Showing #SAA #SyrianArabArmy #SyrianArmy Morale In the Region.
    #SyrianArmy Morale In the Region.

    Look at their faces...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD0I5LAJlWU




    Reminds me of this, Serbian soldiers in Krajina 1994.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  KiloGolf on Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:47 pm

    yay moderates angel


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  ultron on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:07 pm

    Putin proposes ceasefire in Syria beginning on March 1

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-idUSKCN0VJ2G2

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:18 pm


    Fresh from Peto:


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  par far on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:41 pm

    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-iraq-feb-10-2016/


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  DerWolf on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:54 pm

    ultron wrote:Putin proposes ceasefire in Syria beginning on March 1

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-idUSKCN0VJ2G2
    Russian military campaign and SAA are doing fine, why to propose ceasefire now?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Erk on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:56 pm

    DerWolf wrote:
    ultron wrote:Putin proposes ceasefire in Syria beginning on March 1

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-idUSKCN0VJ2G2
    Russian military campaign and SAA are doing fine, why to propose ceasefire now?

    It's normally Lavrov that proposes such things.

    I would imagine Reuters are miss reporting this story.

    https://www.rt.com/news/331964-syria-us-russia-plan-lavrov/

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:58 pm

    par far wrote:Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1  4h4 hours ago
    #Syria #Latakia #Lattakia New Video Showing #SAA #SyrianArabArmy #SyrianArmy Morale In the Region.
    #SyrianArmy Morale In the Region.

    Look at their faces...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD0I5LAJlWU

    Actually this song sounds pretty good. music



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    What I meant to say is that this would be proper good old fashioned country-on-country war. And in war territories of both countries are legitimate targets.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:58 pm

    DerWolf wrote:
    ultron wrote:Putin proposes ceasefire in Syria beginning on March 1

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-idUSKCN0VJ2G2
    Russian military campaign and SAA are doing fine, why to propose ceasefire now?
    Even tho' we don't know any details, its politics and diplomacy.

    Be the 'good' guys proposing peace when you know there is not a bat in hell's chance of the initiative coming to anything.

    Especially when the enemy is trying to step things up.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Militarov on Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:43 pm



    Apparently Syrian improvised Slat armor works Smile

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  short_fuze on Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:30 am

    Russian reporters provide a video report from Deir ez Zor

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvmEPhto2Y

    Evidence of presumably RuAF in action.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:40 am


    ''Kurds, allies seize key air base in north Syria: monitor''

    http://news.yahoo.com/kurds-allies-capture-key-air-north-syria-monitor-225048650.html

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:29 am

    DerWolf wrote:
    ultron wrote:Putin proposes ceasefire in Syria beginning on March 1

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-idUSKCN0VJ2G2
    Russian military campaign and SAA are doing fine, why to propose ceasefire now?

    So that ISIS can work its magic.

    Don't forget. Saa should let ISIS work its magic on Freedomites as much as ISIS can. Afterall it's the second best option after bombing the shit out of them. FSA used ISIS directly or objectively, time for some payback.

    There's also the need to let the dust settle. And see what's worked and what hasn't. BTW Putin proposed, he didn't said it was going to allow it. Smoke and mirrors. Good cop, Russian Cop type of things.




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