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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Neutrality on Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:32 pm

    The plan is to completely retake Aleppo and do it fast before the Saudis/Turks invade. The battle for Aleppo is know to be the "mother of all battles" for a reason. I guess the Iranians are ready to throw their most elite forces at this one and get it done at all costs.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  ultron on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:14 pm

    Would Russian navy in the Med sink any Saudi transport ships heading to Turkey? The only possible route is through Jordan IMO.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:24 pm

    Neutrality wrote:The plan is to completely retake Aleppo and do it fast before the Saudis/Turks invade. The battle for Aleppo is know to be the "mother of all battles" for a reason. I guess the Iranians are ready to throw their most elite forces at this one and get it done at all costs.

    Well 'IF' they do invade their going to have accept fighting a low tech war due to all the ECM systems present in Latakia, such as Kras-4 and apparently (if my memory serves me right) Richarg-AV on the Mi-8/17 platforms, as well as other communication jammers. Both Kras-4 and Richarg-AV ECM systems can cover area's hundreds of km's in diameter, so the platforms don't have to be anywhere close to be effective.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:27 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote: Well 'IF' they do invade their going to have accept fighting a low tech war due to all the ECM systems present in Latakia, such as Kras-4 and apparently (if my memory serves me right) Richarg-AV on the Mi-8/17 platforms, as well as other communication jammers. Both Kras-4 and Richarg-AV ECM systems can cover area's hundreds of km's in diameter, so the platforms don't have to be anywhere close to be effective.

    This is until Turkey will not clash with Russia. Officially.


    ultron wrote:Would Russian navy in the Med sink any Saudi transport ships heading to Turkey? The only possible route is through Jordan IMO.

    Jordan would not object "under friendly US pressure", I wonder what would be reaction of Iraq...

    BTW Russian Navy near Syria is outnumbered by Turkish one. So I am afraid tactical nukes will be in demand. Question would US/UK use strategic weapons? this would end all...

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  ultron on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:35 pm

    It's time to kick Mongol Turks back to Mongolia cheers

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:48 pm


    Guys, please ignore turk and saudi hot air.

    Situation is simple: Russia WANTS turks and Saudis to enter Syria:

    1) VKS wants to get payback for Su-24 ambush. When Sultan started threatening to invade everyone said something..except Russia. They said nothing and then deployed more aircrafts to Hmeim.

    2) If Saudis enter Syria they will be pulverized by VKS and oil prices will instantly skyrocket as a result. They might even use the opportunity to light up some of those oil fields in SA for good measure.  

    Sauds and Doggie are stupid but not that stupid (most likely). And if they are then it's early Christmas for Russia.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  VladimirSahin on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:49 pm

    Turks are want to be Mongols, The Turks in Turkey are not even actual Turks... In the Black Sea region of Turkey they have Russia, Ukrainian, Georgian, Armenian ancestry. In the east most of them have Kurdish blood, To the west ect ect.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Neutrality on Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:20 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Guys, please ignore turk and saudi hot air.

    Situation is simple: Russia WANTS turks and Saudis to enter Syria:

    1) VKS wants to get payback for Su-24 ambush. When Sultan started threatening to invade everyone said something..except Russia. They said nothing and then deployed more aircrafts to Hmeim.

    2) If Saudis enter Syria they will be pulverized by VKS and oil prices will instantly skyrocket as a result. They might even use the opportunity to light up some of those oil fields in SA for good measure.  

    Sauds and Doggie are stupid but not that stupid (most likely). And if they are then it's early Christmas for Russia.

    Indeed. Accidents happens all the time right? Like hitting one of those Saudi oil terminals in the strait of Hormuz Twisted Evil

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  franco on Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:59 am

    Reports earlier that the Kurds had captured the village of Menagh and had surrounded the Air Base. Now reports that they have taken the Air Base too. Will have to wait for confirmations but big if true.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Zivo on Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:57 am

    franco wrote:Reports earlier that the Kurds had captured the village of Menagh and had surrounded the Air Base. Now reports that they have taken the Air Base too. Will have to wait for confirmations but big if true.

    I haven't seen an official statement, but it looks good so far.

    A few unofficial sources are saying Russian aircraft hit Menagh AB to clear the way.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Erk on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:02 am



    I wonder exactly who Turkey considers are it's "brothers in Aleppo" that the want to support?


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  KiloGolf on Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:01 am

    Erk wrote:

    I wonder exactly who Turkey considers are it's "brothers in Aleppo" that the want to support?

    They are all, collectively in denial. Ethnically and nationally, especially after eroding whatever cohesion Gazi Mustafa Kemal brought to their establishment in the 30s and 40s. Now that the kemalist minority cannot rule, it's all back to Ottoman colonialism but they do lack the geography to apply this and are surrounded by... well non-Turks. Also 30-40% of their country is inhabited by Kurds, significant number of not so Ottoman-strοnk Alevis, there is no way around that. Some of them that read history know exactly where they live and what their forefathers did in the past and how many Kurds or others there exist. They are a gigantic Estonia or Latvia.

    Concerning what their statement means, well... I think it's hot air really. I hope I won't be proven wrong as it will means more war.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:57 am

    Step by Step: Syrian Army Takes Control of Another Key Town in Latakia

    The Syrian Army and the National Defense Forces have reportedly managed to liberate another strategic town in the western province of Latakia.

    Another key town has been seized back by the Syrian Army and the country's National Defense Forces (NDF) after heavy fighting with militants in Latakia province in western Syria, media reports said.

    Dozens of terrorists were killed and many more wounded after the Syrian troops finally took full control of the town of Bashoura located in Latakia's northern area, sources said.

    The new offensive came after the Syrian Army and the NDF cleared the militants out of strategic heights of Ziyaret al-Beidha, Zahra al-Beidar al-Mahrouq and Khandaq al-Shahour in Latakia.

    Earlier this week, the Syrian forces managed to win back more villages and heights in Latakia's northern parts near the border with Turkey, sources said, citing the villages of Dahret al-Baiday al-Mahrouq and Ard al-Kataf, as well as the hill of Ziyaret al-Beidha.

    In another development, the Syrian Army continued their offensive in the northern province of Aleppo, regaining full control of the strategic town of Taana in the eastern part of the region.

    The Syrian Air Force attacked terrorists' positions in the towns of Hayan and Hraytan as the army continued to advance toward Tal Rafat in Aleppo.
    Scores of terrorists were killed and injured in the army's mop-up operations in the newly regained towns.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160210/1034491037/syria-army-militants.html#ixzz3zk3i1GMb


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:03 am

    Dima wrote:Islamic World News ‏@A7_Mirza  6 hours ago
    #Aleppo #حلب Military Situation Map


    Also, some twitter says the Kurds have taken control of the Menagha airport.

    Btw, the kurds in the western enclave are not YPG, are they?? I'm confused.
    The only kurds to be trusted and to be carried along are the leftist YPG (& PKK), other kurds are going to backstab and ready to lick some murican arse.

    YPG doesn't care what you call them. As long as you "gib weapons vs Turkestan ISIS".

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:19 am

    Neutrality wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Guys, please ignore turk and saudi hot air.

    Situation is simple: Russia WANTS turks and Saudis to enter Syria:

    1) VKS wants to get payback for Su-24 ambush. When Sultan started threatening to invade everyone said something..except Russia. They said nothing and then deployed more aircrafts to Hmeim.

    2) If Saudis enter Syria they will be pulverized by VKS and oil prices will instantly skyrocket as a result. They might even use the opportunity to light up some of those oil fields in SA for good measure.  

    Sauds and Doggie are stupid but not that stupid (most likely). And if they are then it's early Christmas for Russia.

    Indeed. Accidents happens all the time right? Like hitting one of those Saudi oil terminals in the strait of Hormuz Twisted Evil

    or a large air-drop of weapons and communications gear landing in the Shia areas of the KSA? Twisted Evil

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:45 am

    Syrian rocket "dinosaurs" type Scud can cover airbases in Turkey



    9К72 missile complex "Elbrus", known abroad as SS-1C Scud B is a kind of "dinosaur" in the class of tactical missiles. However, despite its age, it still can pose a serious threat in case of attacks on large targets such as aircraft or naval base. Currently "Elbrus" remain in service with the Syrian army, they were repeatedly used during the civil war and the aggression of international terrorism.

    Delivery of complexes to its ally the Soviet Union began 40 years ago. Only the Syrian army received 18 launchers and approximately two hundred missiles for them. "Elbrus" is made on the chassis of high cross-MAZ-543М. Liquid-fuel rocket can deliver a warhead weighing about one ton to a range of 300 km, an Accuracy of 450 m.

    Earlier it was reported that Syria, through cooperation with North Korea and Iran, got a few hundred of modernized rockets with range of up to 700 km higher range achieved by reducing warhead weight and accuracy.

    According to some reports, the first case of fighting application 9К72 was recorded in December of 2012, when the enemy was released 6 missiles.  

    From that time on the Network quite regularly reported about new facts of the use of the complexes
    against terrorists, and almost always this caused a nervous reaction of the US and its allies.

    According to military experts, the Syrians still managed to keep the majority of the set from the DPRK and Iran are relatively new rockets. They are stored in secure areas of the country, in special underground shelters.

    Upgraded Scud can pose a serious threat to military facilities of the probable aggressors. At the present time, the Syrians have missiles with high-explosive and cluster bombs, which are effective for attacks on airbases. Military experts say that, even if the missiles will hit is not entirely accurate, in any case, the functioning of military facilities, for which there will be blows, completely broken.

    Of course, the big drawback of the complex is a long time in its preparation for launch. However, the events in Yemen, where the Houthis rebels now use these missiles against Saudi aggressors, show that quite a large and modern air force in the Arabian despotism is not able to detect on the ground launcher.

    As for intercepting missiles, in present Turkey does not have modern air defense systems, capable of it, and NATO is unlikely to support Turkish aggression in Syria.

    http://vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-15047.htm



    Interesting couple of hundreds. Iran will test new toys s well. With Russian  EW no AAD will be working fine anyway Laughing

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    or a large air-drop of weapons and communications gear landing in the Shia areas of the KSA?  Twisted Evil

    Well president Assdad helps his loyal future Syrian Federation allies. No Russia´s involvement. Maybe besides emptying warehouses for each Syrian xpress Smile

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:54 pm

    Busy gun position


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  ultron on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:03 pm

    I think Turkey and Saudi Arabia's threat is nothing but a distraction. I haven't seen any progress on the ground by SAA in a week. They are taking their eyes off the focus, which is beating Qaeda on the ground. This is very bad.

    The progress is way too slow. There are hundreds of villages and towns to be captured. At the present rate of a village per week. It would take many years for the stalemate to be broken. Unless Putin wants to fight in Syria until he is 200 years old, I suggest more effort be put into it. Deploy artillery and attack helicopters, not just jets.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Dima on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:10 pm

    Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1  33 minutes ago
    #Syria #Latakia #Lattakia New Photo by @AboZain6 Taking this morning as #SAA #SyrianArmy Get Ready for New Operation


    Also, some chilling out...the lad seen on the left side in this preview looks like a Russian, but probably he is not.



    When I first saw this blonde haired reporter, I though he was a Russian..
    https://twitter.com/AboZain6

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Dima on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:12 pm

    Rook ‏@2Rook14
    Syrian T-90 "21_5" in Aleppo


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:17 pm

    What are the guns in the foreground? Looks like no problem with the smoke from the fires.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  Dima on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:22 pm

    Seems like by weekends we always get good news. We might see Kinnsaba in SAA control by this weekend or next. No hurry, pound them real good and take it with zero to minimal casuality. Once that entire mountainous region along the Turkish border is under control, the plains in front will automatically become a big cauldron with Idlib and western Aleppo inside it. But this entire border need to be sealed in 2-3 months.

    Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1  16 hours ago
    #Syria #Latakia #Lattakia Latest Post by Ali Nadaff #Syrian Reporter. #SAA #SyrianArmy #NDF #Kinnsaba #Kabani #Baida

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:31 pm

    Wall art, JAI style


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:35 pm

    Few more aerial pictures, 6 days ago. So the local defence artillery is now being put to proper use elsewhere.



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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6

    Post  ultron on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:36 pm

    At a rate of several weeks to capture 1 village out of nearly 1000 to be captured, I suppose the pace is much slower than Putin expected. Chechen war was over in a matter of months. Here we are, months later and still fighting in Latakia. By the time Putin is 300 years old I suppose they'll still be fighting in Syria. Shocked

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