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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:58 am

    Was rumored a bit back but apparently Alrosa is confirmed being reassigned to Baltic.
    https://topwar.ru/145578-s-chernomorskogo-flota-na-baltijskij-alrosa-idet-sluzhit-na-baltiku.html
    Google translate wrote:The Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy made a decision to redeploy the submarine "Alrosa" from the Black Sea Fleet to the Baltic Fleet, Izvestiya reports with reference to the military leadership of the Russian Navy.

    In the military department this redeployment was explained by the almost complete absence of an underwater fleet in the Baltic and the arrival of new submarines on the Black Sea Fleet. The submarine will be included in the Red Banner Leningrad Naval Base (LenVMB) of the Baltic Fleet. Later, the submarine will be sent for modernization. Earlier, "Alrosa" made the transition to the Baltic, in 2011 she arrived in Kronstadt, where the scheduled repair was.

    It should be noted that at present there are only two submarines of the project 877 still built on the Baltic - the Vyborg and the Dmitrov. At the same time, the Vyborg submarine built in 1983 was not modernized for a long time and was not repaired and it is planned to withdraw it from the fleet. "Dmitrov" in the period 2014 - 2018 was under repair in Kronstadt.

    With only 2 Kilos in Baltic & not new ones it makes sense.
    Also possibly what happened with Alrosa: They went too deep while working up after coming out of that 2011 maintenance, nearly sank the thing.
    That would make sense for why its had a long maintenance involving the pipes etc so soon after a major refit in 2011 unshaven

    Question would be how they get it back to the Baltic?
    Montreux convention allows it out for repairs as in 2011 but is it in condition to be able to make it to Baltic on its own and if its really poked from the incident then it might not be much use in Baltic either Suspect
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:40 pm

    hoom wrote:Was rumored a bit back but apparently Alrosa is confirmed being reassigned to Baltic.
    https://topwar.ru/145578-s-chernomorskogo-flota-na-baltijskij-alrosa-idet-sluzhit-na-baltiku.html
    Google translate wrote:The Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy made a decision to redeploy the submarine "Alrosa" from the Black Sea Fleet to the Baltic Fleet, Izvestiya reports with reference to the military leadership of the Russian Navy.

    In the military department this redeployment was explained by the almost complete absence of an underwater fleet in the Baltic and the arrival of new submarines on the Black Sea Fleet. The submarine will be included in the Red Banner Leningrad Naval Base (LenVMB) of the Baltic Fleet. Later, the submarine will be sent for modernization. Earlier, "Alrosa" made the transition to the Baltic, in 2011 she arrived in Kronstadt, where the scheduled repair was.

    It should be noted that at present there are only two submarines of the project 877 still built on the Baltic - the Vyborg and the Dmitrov. At the same time, the Vyborg submarine built in 1983 was not modernized for a long time and was not repaired and it is planned to withdraw it from the fleet. "Dmitrov" in the period 2014 - 2018 was under repair in Kronstadt.

    With only 2 Kilos in Baltic & not new ones it makes sense.
    Also possibly what happened with Alrosa: They went too deep while working up after coming out of that 2011 maintenance, nearly sank the thing.
    That would make sense for why its had a long maintenance involving the pipes etc so soon after a major refit in 2011 unshaven

    Question would be how they get it back to the Baltic?
    Montreux convention allows it out for repairs as in 2011 but is it in condition to be able to make it to Baltic on its own and if its really poked from the incident then it might not be much use in Baltic either Suspect

    Logic move. And when Pacific fleet also will recieve the 6 Improved Kilo ordered then some old Kilos from there will be transferred to baltic and northern fleet as well

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:35 pm

    Rare, interesting angle on Veliki Novgorod


    and an Alrosa 'progress' pic
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:36 pm

    Kalibr reload in Kilo class submarine in Tartus, Syria




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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:43 pm

    I gotta say I like those horizontal loading tray things much more than the 'traditional' angled hole from above.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Isos on Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:29 am

    https://medium.com/indo-pacific-geomill/vietnamese-navy-kilo-submarines-77ce5dc97b0b

    Nice article.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:17 am

    Apparently Vyborg has been decommissioned from Baltic Fleet https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9%D0%A4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%8227/

    And rather optimistically they're suggesting Alrosa will be back in service & transferred to Baltic Fleet in 2019 https://flotprom.ru/2018/13%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B74/
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:28 pm

    hoom wrote:Apparently Vyborg has been decommissioned from Baltic Fleet https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9%D0%A4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%8227/

    And rather optimistically they're suggesting Alrosa will be back in service & transferred to Baltic Fleet in 2019 https://flotprom.ru/2018/13%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B74/

    I don't remember Vyborg doing anything of note for quite a while, looks like she simply reached her retirement date

    Ladas are coming along at decent pace so it's expected

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:33 pm

    Ladas are coming along at decent pace so it's expected
    FIFY.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:36 pm

    hoom wrote:Apparently Vyborg has been decommissioned from Baltic Fleet https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9%D0%A4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%8227/

    And rather optimistically they're suggesting Alrosa will be back in service & transferred to Baltic Fleet in 2019 https://flotprom.ru/2018/13%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B74/

    Kronshtadt should be joining the fleet early next year so it makes sense they have to prepare the crew for the lada.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:38 pm

    hoom wrote:
    Ladas are coming along at decent pace so it's expected
    FIFY.

    Well not counting the second which had to be rebuilt from the ground up I mean that's near 15 years at this point.

    The third one should be commissioned in 4-5 years.

    It takes them three years to make improved Kilos so the time frame on the third isn't terrible for it being the second boat once the redesign happened

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:08 pm

    Kronshtadt should be joining the fleet early next year so it makes sense they have to prepare the crew for the lada.
    Isn't it going to North fleet with St Petersburg?

    Anyway, given no obvious progress with Alrosa repair its hard to see it finishing, working up & transiting to Baltic by the end of 2019.
    Edit: oh they're not actually saying transition during 2019, its repair to be completed by end of 2019 Embarassed

    It takes them three years to make improved Kilos
    2yrs for the last pair for BSF, 21mths for the mighty Krasnodar.
    Though 3 is probably about right average.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:04 pm

    Inside the B-261 Novorossiysk. Commissioned in 2014. The first out of six diesel-electric Improved Kilo-class submarines which joined the Russian Black Sea Fleet in 2014-2016.











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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:34 am

    Alrosa this month, definitely not showing any sign of being ready to move to Baltic anytime soon.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:56 am

    Some form of actual action


    And this is a cool shot

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