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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Benya on Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:45 pm

    franco wrote:Apparently 6-8 Kilos will get an upgrade and life extension.

    They will probably get AIP and some sensor/weaponry upgrades.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:39 am

    Future Kilo class sub Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky:



    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96502/
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:06 pm


    Krasnodar arrived in Sevastopol:


    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96642/
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:28 am

    russia russia cheers


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:04 pm

    MOSCOW, August 14. /TASS/. Russia’s Navy will receive another two of the project 636.6 Varshavyanka-class submarines by the end of 2020, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement on Monday.

    "Two project 636.6 Varshavyanka-class diesel-electric submarines named Petropavlovsk-Kanchatsky and Volkhov will be added to the Russian navy by the end of 2020, provided that their in-plant and state tests go well," the statement reads. The ministry pointed out that the two submarines had been laid down in Russia’s St. Petersburg before the Navy Day.


    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/960348


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:16 am

    Apparently Veliky Novgorod and Kolpino left the Baltic on the way to BSF http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2790963.html
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:41 pm

    hoom wrote:Apparently Veliky Novgorod and Kolpino left the Baltic on the way to BSF http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2790963.html

    And Dutch took a pic as well:


    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96868/
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Rowdyhorse4 on Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:58 am





    Nice image of the Auxiliary Pump Jet propulsers available in all Kilo project 636.3s....

    Used for Ultra Silent running only.....




    Notice the holes below the Propellers


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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:29 pm

    ~Big son of a bitch.
    ...What are these doors?
    -Those doors, sir, are the problem.
    I don't know what they are.
    Neither do the British.
    ~Perhaps our friends in Murmansk
    have come up with something new.

    angel

    Seriously though, is that for real? Never heard of that.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Rowdyhorse4 on Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:29 pm

    hoom wrote:~Big son of a bitch.
    ...What are these doors?
    -Those doors, sir, are the problem.
    I don't know what they are.
    Neither do the British.
    ~Perhaps our friends in Murmansk
    have come up with something new.

    angel

    Seriously though, is that for real? Never heard of that.

    Exactly....

    Something you don't find in western news sources but only Russian sources....  

    Its the same with the American subs....  

    You'll find more info about them in english than in Russian....

    those vents are definitely for Auxiliary Pump Jets (For slow silent speeds) looking at its positioning...



    Also that i think this upgrade is for the 636.3s And not the earlier 636s (Like the 636 or the 636.1)

    But western analysts assume that the changes from the .1 to .3 isn't big so they might have overlooked it....
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  Benya on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:19 pm

    Names of Project 636.3 Submarines for Russian Pacific Fleet Revealed

    The third, fourth, and fifth Project 636.3 diesel-electric submarines for the Russian Pacific Fleet will be named Magadan, Ufa, and Mozhaisk, revealed Igor Ponomaryov, the United Shipbuilding Corporation vice-president for defense production.


    Project 636.3 ssk russiaA Project 636.3 submarine of the Russian Black Sea Fleet transiting in the Dutch EEZ. Royal Netherlands Navy picture.

    "The fleet officials decided on the names Magadan, Ufa, and Mozhaisk. The sixth submarine’s name has not been chosen yet," he said.

    The first two Project 636.3 submarines for the Pacific Fleet were laid down in July. They got the names of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky and Volkhov,

    Project 636.3 submarines belong to the third-generation diesel-electric boats. They are believed to be among the word’s most silent subs. They can gather surface speed of up to 20 knots and dive to around 300 m. The submerged endurance is 45 days. The submarine has a crew of 52. Its submerged displacement is around 4,000 tonnes. It is planned to build six such submarines for the Pacific Navy by the year 2022.

    Arrow https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/august-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5513-names-of-project-636-3-submarines-for-russian-pacific-fleet-revealed.html
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:29 pm


    Two Russian (Kilo) submarines on way to Black Sea enter Mediterranean


    http://tass.com/defense/962260

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  rambo54 on Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:26 pm

    regarding the deployment of new Kilos in the Black Sea / Novorossisk: do they belong to the 247th or 4th separate submarine Divison?
    Thanks
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  franco on Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:07 pm

    rambo54 wrote:regarding the deployment of new Kilos in the Black Sea / Novorossisk: do they belong to the 247th or 4th separate submarine Divison?
    Thanks

    My understanding is the 4th separate Submarine Brigade in Novorossisk. The 247th detached Submarine Division was the old unit of 877's in Sevastopol.
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:25 pm

    Interesting that British media/RN don't seem to have made a big hoo-hah about it this time Suspect
    Didn't like being laughed at for making a big deal about escorting intercepting! a sub transiting openly on the surface?

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  rambo54 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:03 am

    franco wrote:
    rambo54 wrote:regarding the deployment of new Kilos in the Black Sea / Novorossisk: do they belong to the 247th or 4th separate submarine Divison?
    Thanks

    My understanding is the 4th separate Submarine Brigade in Novorossisk. The 247th detached Submarine Division was the old unit of 877's in Sevastopol.

    Thanks old buddy!
    But what is with Alrosa? Is it still part of the 4th stationed as a lonesome boat in Sevastopol? And what is with the single Foxtrot and Romeo mod over there - are they also part of 4th?
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  franco on Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:51 am

    rambo54 wrote:
    franco wrote:
    rambo54 wrote:regarding the deployment of new Kilos in the Black Sea / Novorossisk: do they belong to the 247th or 4th separate submarine Divison?
    Thanks

    My understanding is the 4th separate Submarine Brigade in Novorossisk. The 247th detached Submarine Division was the old unit of 877's in Sevastopol.

    Thanks old buddy!
    But what is with Alrosa? Is it still part of the 4th stationed as a lonesome boat in Sevastopol? And what is with the single Foxtrot and Romeo mod over there - are they also part of 4th?
    Thanks

    My understanding is that the Alrosa is in the dry-dock while those old two are not active but are still sitting at the naval yard in Sevastopol. Would expect the Alrosa to join the 4th when work is done.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  rambo54 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:19 pm

    franco wrote:
    rambo54 wrote:
    franco wrote:
    rambo54 wrote:regarding the deployment of new Kilos in the Black Sea / Novorossisk: do they belong to the 247th or 4th separate submarine Divison?
    Thanks

    My understanding is the 4th separate Submarine Brigade in Novorossisk. The 247th detached Submarine Division was the old unit of 877's in Sevastopol.

    Thanks old buddy!
    But what is with Alrosa? Is it still part of the 4th stationed as a lonesome boat in Sevastopol? And what is with the single Foxtrot and Romeo mod over there - are they also part of 4th?
    Thanks

    My understanding is that the Alrosa is in the dry-dock while those old two are not active but are still sitting at the naval yard in Sevastopol. Would expect the Alrosa to join the 4th when work is done.

    They have dumped it here 44.612831° 33.556905° (as of July 2017) - looks weird
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  franco on Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:08 pm

    Could be scaffolding, top outer plates removed or both.

    Check out here... 44.605843, 33.533153

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  rambo54 on Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:57 am

    franco wrote:Could be scaffolding, top outer plates removed or both.

    Check out here... 44.605843, 33.533153

    That can't be Alrosa (switch to 17.8.16) ...maybe two of the 636 stopped over there as a visit before going to Novorossisk. Are there any fotos of visiting Kilos at Sevastopol? I thought I saw some...
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  hoom on Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:27 pm

    They have dumped it here 44.612831° 33.556905° (as of July 2017) - looks weird
    Fits with this pic I posted back in June 2016 that was said to be recent, file name dates as 13 June 2016.

    Google Earth has most recent image 17 August 2016 looking not notably different. Thats only 2 months later though.

    Its not in that location 8 Feb 2016, shows up on 9 April.
    There was a Kilo in the drydock North East of there for about a year prior (not there 20 Sept 2015, there 31 Oct -> still there 8 Feb 2016, gone 9 April).
    Pretty sure I can see the shroud in some of the pics -> thats Alrosa

    Also
    Militarov wrote:
    Beint on long term overhaul since 2014. Overhaul is supposed to be made of 3 phases, 2 phases are done and last phase is being performed atm. Its currently in the workshop hangars after on 18th April 2016. it was pulled from the dry dock.

    Edit: via Balancer this was posted 4 June this year


    Edit2: this one posted 27 Jan, there are differences between the 3 pics so some work going on at least.


    Edit3: Hmm Suspect
    After communicating with a person who works for Alrosa, it seems that the boat is deliberately being repaired for a long time following the example of the B-380 with the corresponding finale ...
    B-380 was a Tango that was 'undergoing modernisation' from 2000 - 2009 before deciding to scrap it.
    Understandable that they might give up on it given the 6 new boats but not sure why they'd deliberately drag out repairs if they're intending to get rid of it Question

    First 4 in Sevastopol
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:58 pm

    hoom wrote:..................
    First 4 in Sevastopol

    Their home base is in Novorossysk. Funny to see them all in Sevastopol.

    Is base in Novorossysk completed?
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  franco on Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:16 pm

    I don't believe their new Novorossysk facility is complete yet.

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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  rambo54 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:18 pm

    regarding the latest discussion here are some high qualitiy pictures of the south bay - 636 is also visible
    https://twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/903973870679547904
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    Re: Project 877/636: Kilo class SSK

    Post  franco on Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:20 pm

    My understanding was the Alrosa was an experimental model with a different propulsion system. Seems like it has spent more time in dock then active if my memory serves me correctly.

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